PART 2! Beading a HAMMER Formed Firewall - BEAD ROLLERS Can't Do THIS!

[@michaelweare4353]

So crazy thought, drill a hole for a center punch on those radius gauges. Love your work and your approaches to solving problems and making it relatable for the small guy.

[@frankmouskovias8921]

I know where there is a pullmax in Canada, it's sitting outside about to go through its second winter, this thing will never ever be used as long as the owners backside points to the ground, I'll give you a clue who it is, he welds with a coathanger and shapes his metal with body filler,

[@ThomasThomas-wn3km]

Surface feet per minute is what you were trying to describe. You need to know the proper SFM for the material for youre working on and the material your tool is made from. This is the formula. 3.82×SFM÷DIA=RPM Mild steel material and steel tool (not carbide) SFM would be 100 surface feet per minute, is a good starting point. S-7 hardened to R/C 55-57 Will hold up well for shock. The whole thing should be made from S-7 for best results. I hope this helps. I was a Tool and Die Maker for 42 years. I love your videos.

[@LightAndSportyGuy]

A small hole at the center of the radius of those gauges would be handy... (Love your work BTW)

[@dillonweigel3101]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@wyattoneable]

I applaud your willingness to try new things. Especially since we can all watch and learn from you. I really enjoy this channel.

[@eddillon2666]

Karl, the way your brain works and the absolute skill you have amazes me. keep up the great work.

[@malcolmyoung7866]

When an air hammer isn’t just an air hammer.. The creative thought process to ‘get things done’ amazes me. I have trouble working around solutions but the more I watch certain folks on KZbin the better I become at solving certain situations that arise when working on stuff. Inspirational creators have a lot to answer for.. usually me fixing stuff that others have given up on and what I would have given up on several years ago.

[@JohneeB]

"Wheels are turning and we are learning", great saying. Fun to watch the process!

[@byronbassett7439]

Great work, hot rodders can do anything they put their minds to.

[@davidbutcher1105]

The profile tool will always be The Hammer Jammer to me. 😁

[@kathysarmcandy1992]

If you had a route with plunge, use a round nose bit and a templating collar, thru the first pattern. Machine the hammer bit to match the bit radius profile. Then you'll have a back stop instead of air, and maybe get a smoother finish.

[@camaroguy2919]

weld the bit onto it you built a shield I'd rocknroll with it...

[@wlogue]

Just an idea for radius guages, a 1/16" hole at the center point of the radius would be super handy. You know, just so you could mark a center reference with a paint pen or sharpie. someone probably already mentioned this. Also you might look into aircraft rivet guns, they hit a bit harder & slower, more controllable. Cheers.

[@youtube-handle-are-a-joke]

Years ago I fabricated a similar tool using the shotest extension from a 4 ton port-a-power welded to the shank of a chisel.

[@markhoul6909]

Awesome. Great work sir, thank you for sharing the knowledge and giving a skill level goal. You have been a great motivation for me, even in our Canadian winters

[@tomtruesdale6901]

That is a really neat trick to make those kind of beads. Very well done on figuring out the issues and solutions to those issues

[@craigjohnston3603]

Just a thought: Maybe a couple sets with softer material. Rubber or maybe brass to refine. Adjust air to adjust force applied. A teasing trigger in the gun would be a good addition.

[@johnjaeger287]

Excellent...Yes...Yes...! Looking forward to the final "sort out" video...

[@Iowa599]

I used my router as a mini drill press to make perfectly straight pilot holes on a panel that wouldn't fit under my normal size drill press.

[@nathanmarsh2699]

If you don’t have a “pile of shame”, you’re not trying anything new. Great content. Keep it going!

[@slicedbread9003]

When you took that firewall out of the form, it looked as good as any of the import replacement sheet metal and we already know it fits better. Despite some lumps, and the setback with the depth stop, the firewall looks good. I do understand that it is not finished though. I remember the battery tray video. That was a good intro to hammer forming.

[@burninpwder76]

Use what you got to make what you need. Love it.

[@TheInsaneShecklador]

I remember when I first realized your merry go round analogy for my self. I was quite young maybe 4 or 5 years old and our family went to watch the Ice Capades. I remember seeing the ice skater in the center barely moving while the skaters at the ends seemed to be going a hundred miles an hour. I'd pretty much forgotten all about that memory until watching these two vids of yours.

[@shanewenzel261]

just a thought with your round temps put center hole of radius in them , good to see you trying to get the job done with basic tools , and problem solving solution ,, and showing that sometimes it take s more than one shot to get there in the end ,, 👍👍👍👍👍

[@paulvanhouts3365]

Hi Carl and Elio, just love this kind of video that shows creative problem solving and using simple tools for those who don’t have the “big boys toys” to get the job done. This is something you both are really great at. You both seem to inspire each other to take it a step further, great teamwork, kudos to you both.

[@donbocci1227]

I remember the louver by hand in a hood, that was fun

[@daleking8529]

Excellent video! Don't ever stop learning!

[@stevenme3587]

Its great to see the real life process. The actual research and development. Keep it up buddy!

[@RencoSC]

Back in the early 1990's I made something almost identical to what you made here. I run a long barrel CP-715 which has a lot of balls and I also used a small jackhammer mounted to a homemade frame and that thing moves some serious metal!

[@joecioe8566]

Great idea, we all learn from your videos. I am sure that you will prefect the depth-stop. You leave us all thinking about it.

[@DanHancock-e7o]

Thanks for the tool testing and showing us what works and what does not. Learning a lot thank you Karl and Elio.

[@jeffmueller3684]

Karl it was good to meet you at the class in Cincinnati last weekend. One thought, after establishing the bead with the long slow powerful air hammer, make a pass with the short weaker faster air hammer to more planish it out. Great video, thanks!

[@flatworm00]

It is really cool to watch you trouble shoot on the fly.

[@ernlevens8523]

Love your videos ERN New Zealand 🇳🇿. Great teaching content for people that don't no the trade very well.thanks.😊.

[@paulmcdonald3570]

I have the bench top nova Viking. Great drill press. FYI, next time you drill holes in a buck or piece of wood and need clean edges get a set of fosner bits.

[@danielclements2754]

Iam a woodworker by trade with a hot rod habit. I can definitely build the patterns accurately, but I definitely have your air hammer dies on my wish list . Thanks Karl for the proof of concept

[@Dave.AtomicRatRods]

It's so helpful to see your process. We all run into issues on our projects and it's helpful to see you work through some. Thank you! Look forward to seeing the new tools available on your website, including that dimple washer die tool you showed a while back.

[@murdoc6501]

Incredible thought process and creation! Seriously, I am amazed by how you simplified a Pullmax! Well done! Looking forward to the trouble shooting and the next video! Go Japhands and Elio, keep moving forward!

[@staffanakerhjelm9780]

I bet there are ”machinist handbooks” you can buy and they tell you what rpm and feed with what drillbit in whatever material you’re drilling.

[@GerryMiller-y4d]

Awesome drill press

[@terryeustice5399]

Thanks Karl. Good as always. You’re so talented and sometimes over my head. But, the end result is always great. 💯👊👍💕

[@kennethcarver9687]

You sir, are what legends are made of! Well done 🏁🛠

[@SunflashAK]

I love my radius gauges and the curve measure tool. The day they arrived I put them to use fabricating and ignition console. I already can't believe I haven't had them all these years. Soooooo much easier.

[@Studebomber]

This is very cool! Can hardly wait to try.

[@charliemclaughlin1042]

I think its gonna work great

[@facopspec5386]

Without failure you’ll never truly succeed. How you overcome those failures is the most important part of the process. You Karl, are very successful at what you do. Your humbleness and thinking of the average person is what makes this channel so great! Aloha🤙🏼

[@larrysmall3521]

Small controlled failures are a key part of a successful design.

[@MakeItKustom]

Thanks so much!!!

[@GerryMiller-y4d]

Totally exciting

[@tipetu]

That firewall looks good with just one of those short beads. It looks more factory than a symetrical firewall. Also it will not interfere with the steering shaft.

[@4speed3pedals]

How about this idea for the one bead. Remove all the screws and the firewall. Turn both patterns over, place a couple screws in to keep them aligned then with the Circular Saw, cut them in half from top to bottom. Then, flip both patterns over that have the correct angle bead pattern, put the patterns on the firewall and reattach the screws. It may mean that if the firewall holes do not then line up, you will have to individually do both sides using the firewall as the template. There is enough meat in half the pattern for which I believe will give enough clamp to allow the final bead to be formed without distortion of the firewall. Your call, just a suggestion.

[@dougwernham5209]

Very interesting video thanks Karl.

[@tonywilkes1781]

What about adjusting the depth using spacers , or adjusting the length of the air hammer chisel ?

[@penguinbrand]

I love working out a process Great idea!

[@yoti-fab]

Cool concept!

[@waynebuchanan4967]

You could use a water jet’s for cleaner look and save time. That’s just a thought

[@five5ix56]

It would be really cool to see a weld being done in a Flir thermal camera. To see what heat soak looks like.

[@snoopu2601]

I seen someone on KZbin make a hand held air hammer out of an air needler he took it apart to fit a hammer rod in it I could see where it could use some adjustments to make it even better. Hes on the right track because those air needler's are not that expensive to work with.

[@RR-mt2wp]

So pleased it is a success, great idea great video.

[@danielkruk212]

Great ideas as always. If you put a hardened “hammer” in there I think something will shatter. Possible solutions either play with tempering the cut off bit, or work out a way to reincorporate the return spring and possibly weld the whole bit assembly together eneal normalize and harden? Can’t wait to see what works.

[@stephengent9974]

Thinking about the forming tool: how about having a pivoting shoe on the base of a rod. IE the base plate would be flat with semi-circular ends, and have a loose pivot point onto the driven shaft. Would be quicker to do long runs of molding, and be smoother

[@paulhedman7387]

This is the way that proof of concept goes. You learned something and will have more success the next time around. Kool stuff !

[@opendolphin]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen you use bondo ever you are a metal artist and probably don’t use it but it has its place

[@kurtludwig6962]

Wow great tool. I’m sure you’ll get the correct harden Stella stop

[@kurtludwig6962]

Steel😅

[@37FordGuy]

Another great video. Firewall looks awesome even in its unfinished state. What about making the hole in your slug a bit deeper and then tapering the top to match the shoulder on the air hammer bit - transfers load around the top of the tubing as well as the flat piece in the middle…

[@wdfdw]

I believe the making of the form could be done with a wood working CNC And you could use your cad program. to make the profiles and CNC could cut it all out much faster. I have a 4x4 CNC would be happy to help test it out if you are interested.

[@joescully566]

That finish doesn't look too bad at all. But it's great if you can refine this down to an air hammer style tool. A game changer!!!! Keep em coming Karl, Joe

[@byronbassett7439]

Great work,

[@scottsprague9974]

It's good to see the problems.

[@watchingwasaga8770]

Just a suggestion, I could make that pattern on my CO2 laser in about 1/2 hour ( machine time). I would do it with 2 or 3 layers of 1/2" MDF. The laser would also cut the screw registration holes.

[@Wingnut_Stickman]

Awesome. Imagine if you threw in some french curves, rather than all straight lines -- that would really demonstrate the capability you have unearthed.

[@markhandy3805]

NICE work

[@mikeseldomridge8052]

Looks good

[@glenmiller3783]

Innovation at it's best, awesome work Guys

[@henryverrydt4943]

Need a new firewall for my model a roadsters truck. I think this will work very well!!!

[@mattvelardes8072]

Keep going until it's 100% Good Enough 👍

[@johnkranz4004]

Very KOOL Karl That amazing what it did to the internal piece of metal Looking good

[@chuckster6513]

Hey Karl, I like your attitude about building a new tool. Figure out what you want to do. Thank about a way to do it. If something is not doing what you expect it to do. Again, figure out how to make it do what you want and try, try, try ! I think that might be the rule of invention..

[@hansh5140]

if instead of going right through on your bottom buck, you make a "negative pattern" in you bottom buck with the depth you desire, (with a round tip router bit) then that would act as a counter stop when using your hammer bit? sort of like your planishing hammer.

[@RandallSoong-pp7ih]

Awesome!!

[@holohanshotrodshop]

Awesome job with what your doing here. Very good descriptions and explanations of the process. I enjoy your channel Karl, keep up the great work.

[@MakeItKustom]

Thanks so much!!!

[@VintageTinGarage]

Very cool tool and process

[@YonksGrarage]

Awesome creativity never know what you’re going to see next! Looking forward to next video and ready to take my money for one of these setups!

[@stubstub8092]

What about using a needle scaler with rounded off needles?

[@daleheiligenthal3988]

Maybe make a "T" type attachment for the long radius areas and the round straight for the ends. Great video!! Failures are only the opportunity to improve!!!!!

[@larryreece1403]

Shut up and take my money! Love this video! As always screw up and learn!

[@jamesatlka]

Are you planning on doing anymore work on the baby Buick anytime soon? That thing is so cool!

[@Robert-il4pi]

Karl be aware that if you create a lot of airborne mdf dust and you make a spark you could have an explosion.

[@opendolphin]

We used too fill bad cuts in mdf with bondo Then cut the line where we want or fill voids in with bondo and reshape the mdf and bondo to any shape we wanted old stereo shop speaker box trick

[@bruceschneider4359]

How about a depth stop from the bottom side? 1" wide, with the 1/2" radius for the ends, thickness to control the depth. for instance, 7/8" thick would keep the bead 1/8" deep. Make them long enough for the shortest bead. Move it along as you go. You could also anneal the end of the chisel bit, but it might mushroom. S7 or 4140 is probably the better choice.

[@charlietabone6162]

That was still very impressive come out good considerate, the tool broke I think if it didn’t,brake it wouldn’t have got them overstrike lumps

[@stevesmoneypit6137]

This series is really amazing! Hope I get to practice it.

[@MakeItKustom]

Thanks Steve!

[@RaperJason]

Great video as usual 👍 Silly question why not weld the depth stop on the die that way it cant go to deep just make it high enough on the die to go through 1" board and get enough depth for the bead then add washers under it to shorten the depth

[@Bondodon1849]

Very ingenious, Karl! I'm sure that your second attempt will be to your satisfaction although your first try wasn't bad at all.

[@arthurpoirier1173]

love it, could you put a heavy compression spring inside?

[@pacomb]

I would recommend some grease. I am also working on metal sheet forming, and grease works well

[@howardsmith1111]

Tear drop gauges need a hole in the center of the radius so you can mark straight off rather than extending from the tangent points...

[@АртёмАнтропов-ь8б]

Привет из Сибири Майк смотрю твои видосики уже второй год каласс

[@ronmiller682]

Love Bubba pollard , I would love to see more videos like this. 😊

[@chriszucker7500]

Way cool! You guys definitely think outside the box! Great job. Have you ever played with a palm nailer to stretch?

[@n1352-m1i]

this tool (hopefully soon to be kit) is just brilliant! simple yet efficient, elegant and achieving all functions with minimal features (including safety - last... ;) ) thank you for sharing this stroke (...) of genius! ps: depending on the strength of the air hammer, maybe one want to set it so that the end of the travel is near the desired bead depth, so that the depth stop is not exposed to the full strength of the hammer (that means the actual depth would be tuned by a variety of spacers rather than relying so much on the stop - so as not to use is as a punching tool)?

[@ivanxavierdesouzasouza9278]

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