Part 2 - History of the R44 and R46 Subway Cars

[@jassy_235]

Superb works, and a pleasure to do a real collab with you! Very happy to give as many corrections and accurate bits of knowledge as possible! The script editings and recordings were all worth it for any interested ones to learn about the legacy of these three fleets. The R44s and R46s are indeed one hell of a crazy yet fascinating history! I hope you all enjoy it, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask here! Regarding my channel, it is not intended to grow at all; I'll have a few videos here and there to preserve my recording moments since I have a quiet lifestyle. Enjoy our complex works, have a safe day, and happy learning!

[@jordimendoza9930]

Jazzy Jazzy Jazzy Jazzy

[@Boypogikami132]

Shripped

[@jordimendoza9930]

@@Boypogikami132 shudup

[@Leonard_Wilson]

The R46 is the GOAT. It’s big and sleek. It has the best sounding propulsion and aesthetically pleasing orange seats. I’ll be so sad when they’re retired.

[@lopwr1212]

R44/6 are my favorite

[@transitmaestro6410]

YESSIR

[@KawasakiR211S]

@@transitmaestro6410 SIR The staten island railway r44s are getting replaced Rip once they do

[@landocalrisian2014]

They were definitely a FAVORITE of mine during my youth 🥰🥰

[@NATO4623]

@@landocalrisian2014the R44 and R46 trains are okay to me ,although the older ones with the brown floors and yellow lights those are the ones I hate but the so called refurbished r46 trains which have the normal modern train floors and white lights are quite okay to me ,my favourite train is the R211T because they have smarter technology and open gangways

[@captainkeyboard1007]

The R46 became my second favorite train. From this Part 2 history, I just learned that the R44 and R46 cars caught structural defects. Your show was right over the money! Happy Railroading!

[@jassy_235]

Thank you! That's what we like to hear.

[@captainkeyboard1007]

@@jassy_235 You are welcome. Thank you for tapping or typing to me.

[@Hernans-World-On-YouTube]

Finally!

[@transitmaestro6410]

Absolute legends those R46s🙌🏼

[@Thomulate]

Awesome

[@sumairasantana3911]

I agree

[@nationalyouthcomputertrain1565]

I like the R44ML's so much that I didn't want them to be retired, but that was retired in the 2010. R46, GOAT

[@malachimuhammad9172]

I love the R44 Experimental Signs, and R46 LCD signs.

[@鉄道とおこぷれ大好きチャンネル]

I enjoyed video

[@christopherstory2136]

Thank you for a very well done video. R46s definitely killed Pullman; though MKCO did a great job on the rehab- 30 years ago! Point noted about reliability, constant alerts for door problems and breakdowns. Lots of square wheels on the B R68s.....looking forward to the R211s when they arrive in 2040🥱 (I'll be 78 then...)

[@TheRailLeaguer]

The R211s will enter service this summer, not in 2040. You are off by about 18 years.

[@christopherstory2136]

@@TheRailLeaguer I'm being sarcastic. Especially now with so called in line "upgrades"😒

[@TheRailLeaguer]

@@christopherstory2136 Really?

[@christopherstory2136]

@@TheRailLeaguerI'm looking at it this way; the R211 is an evolutionary product closely related to the R160 and knowledge gained from 20×year NTT experience and proven CBTC tech employed on the F. No surprises here as to whether the train fits in a tunnel or stuff like that since the physical plant of the subway has not changed. As far as "upgrades" - specs are clearly stared in the RFP and contracts and Kawasaki's experience here meand there should be no surprises as far as propulsion, dimensions, weights, signaling, performance etc. The new technology duch as displays and wider doors fit examples are also incremental, not "new". Other than burn in and structural examibation, eamxamibation shouldn't take this long.

[@TheRailLeaguer]

@@christopherstory2136 Really, because the technology is different with each subway car order? In fact, every subway car order takes 8 months to a year to test out and they are allowed to make upgrades as well. Why are you complaining about the length of time it takes for cars to enter service, when literally every subway car order always takes at least 8 months to enter service?

[@ericschwartz3559]

If the R44 NYCT-operated cars weren’t plagued with structural integrity issues, then they would’ve been retired by the R179 order in March 2022 and the R32s and 42s would’ve been all phased out by the R160s, since they were originally planned to retire in 1999, after a 35-year operating lifespan. The R42s were originally due for retirement in 2004, at the same time frame. But, both car classes ended up remaining in service for another decade, with the R160 order only getting rid of one-third of the original fleet with 232 R32s (222 of which were assigned to the 207th Street Yard, operating on the A and C) and 50 R42s by January 2011. But, on December 18, 2009, the MTA discovered various structural integrity issues with their fleet of R44s and decided to retire them due to the R160 delivery nearly complete. This was in place of the remaining R32s and R42s which were being retired by the R160 order at the time and their retirement paused indefinitely and were forced to stay in service for another decade. The R32s were not highly expected to be in passenger operation for nearly 60 years and they have survived well past their specified service life of 35 years as touted by NYCT when they first hit the tracks in 1964. They were the last cars built - prior to the agency’s merger with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority in 1968 - to remain in service. The longest-lasting R32s were in service for almost 58 years, currently the longest such service life in New York City rapid transit operations. They are the oldest rolling stock since the retirement of the Redbird trains and the oldest rolling stock of any metro system in North America, as well as some of the oldest rolling stock of any metro system anywhere in the world. The R32s outlasted the newer R38s, R40s, R42s and New York City Transit R44s. This is called their “Longevity”. The R179 order replaced the remainder of the R32s in the early 2020s with the final train running on March 10, 2022. After retirement, the R32s were towed through the South Brooklyn Railway crossing 3rd Avenue, then being interchanged with NYNJ rail and brought to 65th St Rail Yard to finally be sent away for scrap to Ohio, a process that started in April 2022.

[@ericschwartz3559]

The R211 is a new technology train (NTT) New York City Subway car being built by Kawasaki Railcar Manufacturing for the B Division and the Staten Island Railway (SIR). They will replace two aging subway car models: all R44 cars on the Staten Island Railway and all R46 subway cars. The order is split into three parts: R211A and R211T cars for the subway and R211S cars for the SIR. The R211Ts employ open gangways between cars, allowing passengers to see and walk through the entire length of the train - a feature not present on the subway’s other rolling stock. The base order consists of 535 cars, with options for up to 1,077 additional cars.

[@walterabelha4PT13689]

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[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

6:34 this is probably whats going to happen to the R46 in a few years time

[@42luke93]

I can see a MTA gone wrong meme with an Ezpass photo of the R44 train at the tolls if such a photo was released to public.

[@Boypogikami132]

Lol

[@pjinnj35]

There were a derailment on a R 46F train Dixie fifth Street on the express Queen Boulevard line. It would do to miss alignment of the track.

[@russellgxy2905]

I've said for awhile that the R46's ride like their builder's namesake, so finding out they actually had trouble riding and trucks cracking was a shock!

[@Kuba_mkm]

0:17 green techrax logo

[@ericschwartz3559]

But, cars 6152-6153 damaged from the 2017 derailment on the A line near 125th Street returned to service linked with cars 6206-6207 to create a new four-car set in July 2020. R46 cars 6150 and 6151 were wrecked and unfortunately retired. This new mismated four-car set replaced them. 6207 was connected with 6153.

[@Kuba_mkm]

0:08 when metro north hits the r42 j train

[@jordankuo6662]

Omg when the r44 and r46 door chimes go off at the same time at a staiton it sounds like hell because some tones are not the same notes or the speakers are worn out.

[@pradhiprameshshah9313]

This video is GREAT, but why does the R160 in the L line at 8:04 look off?

[@TRRailfan]

That's an R143, and they were shipped without the American flag and footholds, added later.

[@pradhiprameshshah9313]

Ooooooohh Thanks for telling me@@TRRailfan

[@nysubwaydude5634]

10:00 is this car still around

[@jassy_235]

Yes, at Concourse.

[@sumairasantana3911]

You Should Do The R1-9 Next (You Don't Have To If You Don't Want To.)

[@jellywucy8967]

Nice

[@HectorHardy-c3o]

Like ❤❤❤❤train

[@joemazzola7387]

These cars had carpet in them at least in a couple of cars as an experiment I road in one

[@robertnussberger6449]

R44 did on at least the first set delivered. In 1974 75 I was in kindergarten trip and we rode the r44 to Manhattan. They were so smooth and quiet compared to what they replaced

[@jordimendoza9930]

Do Part 3

[@r160fan7]

9:06 that is probably a codebreak on an 8700's changing the sign to an L train

[@NewYorkCitySubwayR160BSiemens]

11:02

[@randolphtwells1360]

7:25; R-46 trains are going to retire until 2025 the R-211 trains for the New York Subway System.

[@AnaCastillo-zu2ft]

Why no r46 in the thumbnail

[@lowfurts]

The 46s are really breaking and it's sad Maybe they should call them the Sqeaky six

[@jordimendoza9930]

9:51 [TR] 6206-6207 9:51 9:51

[@jorgefigueroa4437]

I remember some R44's on 4 and 5 trains on Bronx on 1993

[@TRRailfan]

Too wide

[@jordimendoza9930]

Cool

[@kennethrembert2310]

Is it the end of an era for the R46 subway cars after 48 years in service?

[@jassy_235]

End of the 70s subway era

[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

The retirement of the R46 would mark the end of the era of American built NYC Subway cars.

[@jassy_235]

​@@KingofGamingAndTrains456 Correct, that's in for the upcoming fun fact vid.

[@Boypogikami132]

8:37 my railway in Roblox be like:

[@sonchitaanindo]

PRE-GOH

[@sonchitaanindo]

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[@deniz2014]

THE FIRST R211S ARE NOW IN SERVICE 100-104 AND SOON 105-109

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

Because of the R211s, the R44MLs, R44SIRs, and R46 trains will be dearly, and solely missed.

[@KingofGamingAndTrains456]

also, does anyone know if R44 cars 5286-5289 are still operational? If not, what was the purpose of keeping them?

[@jassy_235]

From my knowledge, they’re not operational especially with the worsening structural issues mentioned here building up over time since 2010. Even if these are operational, the structural issues build up since their retirement would risk serious damage to these four cars. They are used as storage units in CIY.

[@Railoffroader2]

These cars were among the last American 🇺🇸 made subway cars that served NYC for half a century. We’ll see if all the newer foreign models last as long as their predecessors.

[@jordimendoza9930]

On March 20th 2022

[@thortczodtcrhodie6364]

New trains look like they were influenced by Robocop.

[@kevinb8881]

These R46s have seriously got to go, OMGGGGGG!!!

[@videonut1988]

I know you want the 211A/Ts on the tracks BAD, but they’re not all here yet, so the 46s are still rolling…

[@kevinb8881]

@@videonut1988 I know, only a matter of time they'll be taking over, they should've put the LCD roll signs on the R68/As!!

[@Ezekiel144k]

NOOOOOOO!! KEEP THE R46'S!! They still run very well

[@jordimendoza9930]

RIP SIR 402

[@deniz2014]

The r44 are over 50 years old

[@eprohoda]

broth,Brvao~epic ,

[@iamagamer124]

11:05 Oof

[@Ezekiel144k]

I live on the A line, and we still use the R46 trains 🚆 which I still love. I don't care too much for the new trains

[@jordimendoza9930]

Do Part 3