Part 1 - History of the R44 and R46 Subway Cars

[@Thomulate]

aLLen thommy

[@highlightdarkness]

not tryna be rude but why do u sound like a child

[@TRRailfan]

lmao

[@jordimendoza9930]

@@TRRailfan I Hate Rickrolls their so stupid

[@jordimendoza9930]

aLLen thommy

[@pacman3279]

@@TRRailfan is thommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy 6 or something

[@daniel_teplitsky07]

These cars were so close to my heart (specifically the R46s). Loved it when they hauled up and down the Queens Blvd Line on the (F)!

[@Maxwellsworld-in2cz]

I feel you man😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Musicradio77Network]

The R44 and R46 are the very first subway cars to used the iconic door chime where you can “Stand clear of the closing doors”. This door chime has become a staple for the MTA, and it was later used in R62, R68 and R68A subway cars, except the two Shuttle trains like the Times Square/Grand Central and Franklin Ave. Shuttles as well as the SIRR trains.

[@mohamad-ms2pb]

According to the book "They Moved the Millions" by Ed Davis, the R44 speed test on the LIRR blew out a few of the traction motors.

[@landocalrisian2014]

These cars reminds me of my youth!! These were such signature cars!!!

[@ericschwartz3559]

7:42, a then-brand new R62 subway car in a maintenance car shop, possibly to do its acceptance testing, since he said that was in 1984. 325 cars were built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Kobe, Japan, for the A Division between 1982 and 1985, arranged as single units, but rebuilt and modified to 5-car sets in 1991-92. Family name is SMEE and they replaced all remaining R12s, R14s and R15s, which were all retired by the end of 1984. These cars run on the IRT Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line 1 and 3 lines (Red Line) which are their service assignments as of 2024.

[@xde6010]

I almost forgot about you and then I got my R46 (R) Train and I remembered you.

[@MrBlox-sf8vc]

I like the blue stripes of the old NYC cars. I wish they still used them.

[@redbirdrailfan]

Finally a long video again… I Like it!

[@The.twenty_1]

We have now been served

[@RTwoSix]

everyone did a great job! can’t wait for the second part😉

[@khaseemroberts4283]

As of these cars had been graffiti free and reassigned to the E F G and R trains which the R44 cars assigned to the A train earlier in years the D E F and others assign of lettered lines too! These are the basic trains too!

[@khaseemroberts4283]

R44/R46 cars that could of resemblances of the Chicago subway car groups and others even though the 75 feet long subway car fleet sure had more speed into them and run better the high tech train car groups, this cars in their overhaul programs can last a lifetime because there are stainless steel aluminum too and solid!

[@captainkeyboard1007]

Excellent show! I watched Part 2 before I watched this one.

[@jassy_235]

Good to hear from you guys doing one of these time-consuming historical topics. I perfectly agree with you making it into parts since these rolling stocks have a crap ton of fascinating history within them. Great job as a collaborative team, and I cannot wait to see what part 2 holds. I want to mention that each R44 and R46 pre-GOH door chime very likely sounded different. The one that you just showed was an R44 pre-GOH door chime. However, the R46 pre-GOH door chime likely had a longer tone but possibly slightly different from its post-GOH counterpart. Here are a few examples of the recorded R46 pre-GOH door chimes: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3LTnneGn7eMmJo (0:41, 15:01), m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/paPUZpV8fNiXg7c (1:14), and even Trainluvr’s comment in this video (m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmjCpGyGmbmri8U) also confirm the case (he said it sounds the same as post-GOH but it sounds a bit different for me). You still sometimes hear the R44 pre-GOH chime on a post-GOH R46 because, during the R44’s and R46’s GOH years, some R44 pre-GOH door chimes were embedded into the R46 post-GOH cars. Regarding the graffiti epidemic, JULIO 204 was the first person to start in Summer 1967 at any Upper Manhattan stations, followed by TAKI 183 in Summer 1969 at the exterior and interior of subway cars. The major graffiti epidemic really started in 1971 at the 137th Street Yard, so the R44s came into the TA property with terrible luck. Vandalism and high crime in NYCTA were already a thing since the early ‘60s; by 1973, graffiti became a hot mess in NYCTA. (Larry Peerce‘s The Incident (1967) demonstrates very well). (Sources: production--rtbs.netlify.app/amp/articles/train-graffiti-history/, www.at149st.com/hpart1.html, beyondthestreets.com/blogs/articles/taki-183-the-originator, www.disastercenter.com/crime/nycrime.htm ) While many say that the R44MLs retired in 2010, that is not technically true since 388-398 are still running on the SIR and 399 as a storage car in CIY. The black section around the front windows was removed on the R44MLs and R46s in 1979 due to extensive graffiti, and the R44SIRs removed theirs at the same time as their overhaul in 1990. 1979 was also when the R44s received modern rollsigns and car number plates based on the R46s, and both began to receive the current-day route emblems. Also, the first discovery of the R46’s flawed untested Rockwell International lightweight trucks occurred on March 28th, 1977, three days before the R4s-R9s retired (R1s already retired on 12/1/76). This meant that the MTA scrapped the R1-9 series too quickly and did not anticipate problems with the R46s. Because of this, the R46s were one of the biggest reasons to cause chaotic schedules throughout most of the B Division lines in the ‘70s and ‘80s. (Source: erausa.org/pdf/bulletin/2006/2006-03-bulletin.pdf ) I know that I am saying a lot here, but knowing things that occurred during the R44’s and R46’s beginning life is one of many ways learning the Transit Authority’s history is fascinating.

[@TRRailfan]

These are some very interesting facts!

[@malachimuhammad9172]

@TrainRider Railfan I think the R44s, and R46s are twin brothers💚💚💚💚💚.

[@Gojira160]

@@TRRailfan So, TRRailfan. My brother says that the St. Louis R44s, and Pullman Standard R46s look exactly and absolutely alike.

[@ericschwartz3559]

It’s hard to think that the R44s still running on the SIR today are only a few years older than the 1925 SIRTOA ME-1 cars’ age back in 1973 when they were retired by the then-brand-new R44s.

[@ericschwartz2062]

4:23, was that an M-1? It had to be since it was 1972 and on the LIRR.

[@walterabelha4PT13689]

Hello my dear friend Arriving the first time in your Channel. Thank you for Sharing beautiful works. I left like registared with The Bell activated for strenghaten our friendship. We are together Strong hug from Brazil

[@TRRailfan]

Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@Mattpsb]

Trainrider What is your intro song?

[@Hernans-World-On-YouTube]

Finally!

[@ericschwartz3559]

4:23, Hey, it’s an M1 railcar. These were built in 1968-1973 and retired in 2007, replaced by the M7.

[@mingkee27]

These end of life trains are running on N and Q

[@mtafaniscools]

and a c

[@savionmjallyeiither42luvr]

Blue Q what are doing that pfp is cool and it’s foam how do you do it.

[@randolphtwells1360]

87.5 miles per hour is like a DeLorean travels up to speed at least 88 miles per hour.

[@jordimendoza9930]

How many R46s where behind the green engine

[@dominicanamariposa21]

I remember the R 42 and R 44 train cars on the (F)train the (A) the broad channel shuttle train ( S) and the Franklin Avenue Shuttle #memories

[@FOONEW259]

Wait the R46 uses to be the lemon huh that’s interesting

[@Kardin900]

They shouldve kept the pre goh livery

[@jordimendoza9930]

That Rick Roll is only on Beluga

[@jordimendoza9930]

87.75 mph WOW! SO FAST

[@Boypogikami132]

so basically the r46s were like the r179s of the 70s?

[@jordimendoza9930]

8:05 You're a extra like (in 1985 as extra TR for growing ridership)

[@jordimendoza9930]

Lol for that stupid rickroll

[@jordimendoza9930]

4:51 87.75 mph WOW SO FAST!

[@jordimendoza9930]

:( I didn't get a live chat

[@joebidenthesleepy]

#bringbackthestripe

[@TheDylanJoyce]

What is this, popcorn reading like back in the grade school?

[@TRRailfan]

🗿🗿🗿🗿 yeah a lot of people wanted to help

[@jordimendoza9930]

@@TRRailfan SHUT UP FOR THAT FREAKEN RICKROLL

[@blue9multimediagroup]

the one guy talking about the P wire systems and stuff, was reading too fast so his words became unintelligible or rushed.

[@TRRailfan]

Turn on subtitles

[@blue9multimediagroup]

*87.5, not 87.75. Not a huge difference, but in a way is a big difference in terms of calculations.

[@jordimendoza9930]

I'm allergic to Rickrolls

[@jordimendoza9930]

That Rick Roll was stupid

[@randolphtwells1360]

Most of the time for the subway is R46 trains.

[@superbrownsheep3777]

Ayo what, I thought every voice was train rider railfan...

[@randolphtwells1360]

B & O Railway means the cars come from Baltimore and Ohio.

[@luislaplume8261]

This was the only part of the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad that was electrified. The short platform near the beginning of the video was the Ferry terminal to one of the branch lines that originated in Jersey City, N.J and had a stop across from Staten Island where the Staten Island line ended. This service ended sometime in the 1960s.

[@randolphtwells1360]

@@luislaplume8261 You have a great history about the trains from the B & O Railway cars, and the features from the decade that happened. 👌

[@camera9024]

R211

[@jordimendoza9930]

TR did a stupid rickroll

[@deniz2014]

3 cars is to short

[@jordimendoza9930]

ME- 1 you said me1

[@jordimendoza9930]

A a a achooooooo

[@lewisasaprichards5649]

R44 👍🏻, R46 👎🏻

[@blue9multimediagroup]

they're the same

[@jordimendoza9930]

TR did a stupid Rickroll

[@jordimendoza9930]

uwu

[@jordimendoza9930]

I will unsubscribe from u

[@tristanexists1806]

You think thats a fucking problem for him