Part 3 of 4 Speed Trans Rebuild

[@johnjames9799]

Good Lord Mike,, I had the same problem when I went to take apart my 72 main shaft,, I fused a lot and called a few choice names,, can't wait for part 4,, thanks again for taking the time to do these videos,, still learning at an old age.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you, ad learning never stops for any of us.

[@glennmassengill3532]

Mike.. I’ve said this on another video. But your making some of the best DIY repair videos for vintage Harley’s I’ve seen to date. Greatly appreciated Sir!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@tikkabrno]

💯% agree. One day i may even stop applauding Mike with grovelling compliments, but i cant promise that 😁👌

[@attheflattrackraces4662]

Thanks for the videos Mike. Taking apart a 72 Superglide I acquired a few months ago and that's my next step.

[@pacificmike9501]

Cool. Take it slow and set it up "as per the book." That 72 has a good old 4 speed (ratchet top, loose roller bearings). Enjoy it.

[@attheflattrackraces4662]

@@pacificmike9501 Aquired it from my older brother, been sitting in his basement for 18 years. Happy new year.

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

Hello MIKE, Always a pleasure hearing your LOGIC & Conclusions COOP ..................................

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You

[@walterperrault]

Another great learning experience thank you your skills and knowledge are priceless my friend

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@ShotgunKidX]

Thanks for the videos, Mike! I just picked up a ‘74 in need of some good love and your videos are super helpful.

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad to help

[@darrinseitz7184]

Dude, you rock on shovelheads, I have learned so.much, making my BP lower and more solid.repairs, Thanks

[@pacificmike9501]

Glad to help

[@Rob_1776]

I know I've said it before but I really dig watching your videos man! Well explained and detailed! You seem like a really cool laid-back guy, brother!

[@pacificmike9501]

We try. Thank you.

[@haroldscheg5982]

Keep up these videos mike, great information

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@djosephp67]

Thank you for all of your video's Mike.. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the second video after watching the first one of this series.. I got side tracked so just I'm just tuning back in now.. On to #4 ..Thanks for taking the time to do all of these.. Really enjoy them.. Cheers..

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@Nowherenotime]

Mike i feel your frustration with that snap ring. Been there many times. Usually with more colorful language. Good job staying calm.

[@pacificmike9501]

It's really routine stuff. But, thank you.

[@kevjer8466]

nice job on these vids, and yes I clicked the little bell.. see ya on the road Mike Thanks for taking the time

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You.

[@deadheadlights]

3rd gear snap ring.... always good fun. haha I have a bag of them in the shop at all times. I've never taken one off and reused it. Destroy and replace haha. Cheers Mike

[@pacificmike9501]

Yep. Thank you.

[@mikechandler5447]

Thanks for the videos Mike. Very helpful as always!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@59wargear]

Great video Mike hope your friend goes new that case is a doorstop

[@pacificmike9501]

True story. Thanks.

[@phillipmonroy]

Looking forward to part 4!

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you. Coming soon.

[@ct895]

Thanks you for your time just love your video's City H from WV Ride it like you mean it

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. I do appreciate you.

[@Rossco603]

such a wholesome guy, like a motorcycle mr rodgers

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. We're here to talk about motorcycles. If we like each other, everything is better. The fun gets multiplied.

[@Rossco603]

@@pacificmike9501 thank you for your years of wisdom. I will be sure to use plenty of white lithium grease and assembly lube with a smile. Love what ur doing and highly recomend people sub to you!

[@pacificmike9501]

Wow. Thank You.

[@eazyrider6122]

Good onya mate for continuing the job for video purposes.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you. Just trying to pass on some info.

[@Freedomfighter916]

Thanks for sharing Mike

[@pacificmike9501]

My pleasure!!

[@vidvidbiker]

Great video. Wish you had shown us the wear on the gears so for those of us with less experience we can learn what and what is not serviceable - apart from if it is obviously chipped etc.

[@pacificmike9501]

Sorry. Not used to showing that, probably should have. These gears were nice and low mileage. I'll do better next time.

[@vidvidbiker]

@@pacificmike9501 - your videos are great, just I am currently stripping a 4 speed and knowing what to look for, tolerances etc would have taught me an additional layer of knowledge. Your spannering videos are the best on you tube though. Thanks for the great content that you create.

[@glennmassengill3532]

I need a junk case like that. One of my shift dogs snapped in half , and found its way out the side of the case. Hole is to big to just fill with welding rod. For the time being I replaced with a 5 into 4 trans.

[@pacificmike9501]

This thing is definitely junk, but not my junk. Sorry 'bout that. What's wrong with a 5speed?

[@benabbott3724]

Hi mike thanks for all the great videos! I have a question about the loose roller in the cluster and main drive gear. Can you use oversized rollers in them to tighten up the clearances a bit? I have some +.0004 and I can’t fit all them in I can get 21 and 43 in.

[@pacificmike9501]

If the surfaces are badly worn, no. If the surfaces are smooth or can be honed to make smooth, then consult your manual and go for it. I've never been a fan of using less rollers. I've seen some, but I couldn't do that.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. I guess that case did have repairs done on it, replace with new or swap-meet?

[@pacificmike9501]

Not my problem. I believe he bought a new transmission. Thank you.

[@jaybirdflhss]

Hi Mike, my 1974 FL 4 speed tranny has longer than normal throw to shift it. The heel and to shifter will actually touch the floor board. There isn't any slop in the linkage to the tranny top. What would be worn in the ratchet top to cause this?

[@pacificmike9501]

If the spaces you experience between gears is okay, simply remove the footshift lever and rotate it one tooth. The ratchet on the lid can be adjusted as per the manual, if this is not adequate.

[@lawnboyfromhell]

Yes, the snap ring from Hell! At least it goes on easier than it comes off.

[@pacificmike9501]

Yes it does!

[@lawnboyfromhell]

@@pacificmike9501 Hi Mike I am putting a 4speed together right now, I bought all new Andrews close ratio gears and new shafts. I pressed a new bearing into the mainshaft gear race in the case, and when I try to put the gear in it's way to tight on the main drive gear? Same race same size bearing according to the numbers, fits nice on the mainshaft gear until I press it in? Any ideas?

[@pacificmike9501]

Yep. Go to your best automotive machine shop, take the main drive gear, rollers, and your case. Tell them the fit you want and have them HONE it for you. Make sure it is someone you trust. Every motorcycle shop that was any good, used to have a Sunnen Hone for just such operations. Use your service manual for specifications.

[@MoTownClimbing]

Hey Mike, how do i lock the main shaft from spinning to loosen the bolt and lock washer (kicker cover side) that is holding in the ratchet gears and tension spring? I have the transmission on the bike with the ratchet top cover still on. Thanks!

[@pacificmike9501]

I generally do it with an "air impact."

[@kevinc.9360]

I noticed that main shaft bearing just loosely fit into the housing after you got the mainshaft out - is that typical? I have both a new housing/race and bearing and the bearing is going to be a press fit, or I'll need to heat up the housing/race to get the bearing in. Or, should I be taking a few thousand off the ID of the bearing housing so the bearing fits easier?

[@pacificmike9501]

What year are you working with? I'm getting a little lost on your question.

[@kevinc.9360]

@@pacificmike9501 early 76. What I meant was the mainshaft ball bearing, and how it fits into the bearing housing itself. It looked like when you were done with removing the mainshaft, you were arranging stuff on your bench and you put the bearing into the bearing housing and it just dropped right in. I have a brand new ball bearing and new bearing housing - and the bearing will not just drop right into the housing - definitely a press fit. I just dug out the old ones I am replacing and the bearing is snug in the bearing housing, but easily pressed in by hand. I think I might just "polish" the ID if that new bearing housing to make for a better fit that will take less than a herculean effort to insert the bearing.

[@pacificmike9501]

These are the things we get into. Tough call. I think before I got serious about how to do it, I'd measure the bearings you have. Possibility one is defective.

[@pacificmike9501]

In fact, quite often(especially in "aftermarket"), there is a plus or minus specification on those parts, and if one company made the bearing, and another the housing, they may never fit each other. Sometimes a vernier scale will tell you, sometimes, accurate micrometers.

[@kevinc.9360]

@@pacificmike9501 Yeah, so I did some mixing and matching and found that the new bearing fits in the old housing. Measured everything to the best of my ability - old and new bearing OD (and ID) are the same. New housing ID is about .006 smaller than the old. I might just used the old housing if a little polishing of the new ID doesn't fix it. Thanks.

[@darrenrussell6997]

Hi Mike, On a 69 Shovel to remove the transmission from the bike. What else do yo have to remove? Engine, Tank, Exhaust?

[@pacificmike9501]

Exhaust pipes, Oil tank, primary drive and housings.

[@mattbentley13]

What size socket is that? Thanks

[@pacificmike9501]

1 3/8"

[@mattbentley13]

@@pacificmike9501 thank you!

[@tonycurtis4427]

Thank you

[@pacificmike9501]

And Thank You.

[@Kapo2785]

I just ripped out the trans on my 89 sporty 883. The cam follower (the crescent moon looking piece with the point stop in the middle) was broken on one side.. would this be the cause of my problem? I was able to shift the gears while hold the broken follower down.. Issue was; bike was stuck in firet gear

[@pacificmike9501]

I think you got it.

[@Kapo2785]

@@pacificmike9501 sweet ty!

[@greenshovel]

Mike what size rawhide mallet are you using? Thanks love your content!

[@pacificmike9501]

I have several sizes. The one I use most, I've had for over 50 years. Now you have me thinking. I don't know the sizes of rawhide mallets! Okay, I just grabbed a "new" one that's been laying around for years. It's larger than my old one I'm so used to. I believe it is one size larger and has a number "5" stamped in the handle. Hope this helps you. I'm gonna go get educated now.

[@greenshovel]

@@pacificmike9501 Thanks Mike!! Love your vids by the way.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@vikingstrongman1063]

Where do I get a new transmission? I've been looking.

[@pacificmike9501]

A new transmission? Drag Specialties, V-Twin, Baker Drivetrain, etc, etc.

[@jamesnorman7552]

I love all your videos Mike and have watched some more than once, this may sound like a silly question but I’m just rebuilding the same box, is it ok to leave the kicker gears and spring off the end of the main shaft.? I have electric start and no kicker pedal . Just wondered if they help to do anything else . Thanks again for all the videos Mike, they’re wonderful.

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank You. If there's no kicker gear, you don't need the other gears or spring.

[@jamesnorman7552]

@@pacificmike9501 Thank you very much Mike, I did think that but it’s good to check.

[@joeyfloortom9585]

Hey Mike, what size is that custom socket? Thanks!!!

[@pacificmike9501]

1 3/8"

[@docholiday1034]

👍👍👍⚙️😎

[@pacificmike9501]

Thank you.

[@davidprice4293]

Pry out hit with propane torch it will fall out

[@pacificmike9501]

Okay. Thank you.