Part One: Helena Blavatsky: the woman who inspired the Nazis, Gwyneth Paltrow | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

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Part One: Helena Blavatsky: the woman who inspired the Nazis, Gwyneth Paltrow | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined by Jamie Loftus to discuss Helena Blavatsky.
Original Air Date: August 23, 2022
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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[@roesler]

This podcast should have a special video feature, "Sophie Cam". Imagine watching her get more and more exasperated as Robert goes.

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

_"Robert..."_ *Robert!* and then her great laugh.

[@thatcanuck5670]

Behind every great man is a woman who does all the real work and is completely sick of his sh#@t

[@RafBlutaxt]

Sorry for being a pedantic nerd for a moment: Conan the Cimmerian comes from Cimmeria, not Hyperborea which does exist as another country in Robert E. Howard's setting he named the Hyborean Age. It's all a bit confusing and really not important at all but I wanted to mention it.

[@MrFairbanksak1]

I read a great comic book where Conan makes it to Hyperborea.

[@nathanbreen1495]

As a fellow "actually it's gonna bother me if I don't" I salute you

[@MichaelJMichaelJSmith]

Who the f cares

[@MichaelJMichaelJSmith]

This is the quantity of your dam life? Dam

[@MichaelJMichaelJSmith]

Who the f cares

[@majuuorthrus3340]

Orientalism is bad, but it did give Europe some banging aesthetic movements. Probably because Asia and North Africa have some banging aesthetics.

[@ah-sh9dw]

Time stamps to hear cat contributions 41:19 46:20

[@WitchOracle]

Bless you

[@zeroswat1762]

Meow indeed

[@michaelwright8978]

As for laying eggs in other nests Magpies are actually evolved to tolerate brood parasitism more than perpetrate it. I think you're thinking of the Cuckoo, from whence etymologically cuck is derived.

[@DeadCanuck]

Also cowbirds.

[@KSignalEingang]

Ok i don't know how you talk about Bulwer-Lytton for *any* length of time without mentioning his single most important literary acheivement: he's the guy who gave us *the* most infamous opening line in English literature: "It was a dark and stormy night..." There's an annual contest in his name where writers compete to produce the "worst possible opening sentences to novels never written".

[@uncleobscurenobody8861]

He also brought in "the pen is mightier than the sword", the guy is weirdly influential

[@brassen]

The Grand Prize of 2023: "She was a beautiful woman; more specifically she was the kind of beautiful woman who had an hourlong skincare routine that made her look either ethereal or like a glazed donut, depending on how attracted to her you were." - Maya Pasic, New York, NY (thank you with all my heart)

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

It's wild how Jamie is so adorable, yet also the wildest agent of chaos.

[@miguelvelez7221]

Doing it "Hoagie Style". It was RIGHT there Robert! (Throws bag of bagels)

[@marchi.fleming]

This is gonna be one of the few times I’m actually happy I put off getting into BtB for as obstinately long as I did, for now I am able to receive the Xmas blessing of hearing Robert’s take on possibly my favorite batshit cuckoo bananas person ever, the Honorable (??) Ms. Blavatsky!! 😁🎄😍

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

I'm like a week into having discovered this channel. It's glorious.

[@marchi.fleming]

@@tomarmadiyer2698 And to think the reason I resisted was because I was SO burnt-out on ppl hardcore "dude you **HAVE** to watch/listen/read etc to this show/record/video/book/pod/etc" hyping stuff at me only for me to be devastated by the underwhelm lol 😆 Silly wabbit! So glad you're on board & digging it too 👍🏼😁

[@thebillyjoe]

I like the part where the owner of the child island was not bleeped

[@alstaniforth]

Should we tell them they didn’t bleep the name of the sponsor that runs the island where you can hunt people right at the end?

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

We all knew who it was anyway, so it doesn't make a difference.

[@MaiaFranklyn]

more than the 'dark and stormy night' thing, I think Bulwer-Lytton's greatest cultural legacy is his work partially inspiring the name of Bovril, the beef you can drink

[@jamiefrontiera1671]

A few years ago I read this book finding Atlantis about a Scandinavian Renaissance man, olaf rudbeck, who went insane trying to find Atlantis. He theorized it was in Scandinavia and also the Jason and the argonots ended up in Sweden (I think Sweden it's been about 10-15 yrs and I loaned the book to someone who lost it). It's weird that olaf rudbeck is about is responsible for things like scientific experimentation, modern surgery and models of the human body, idea of dating items based on where they are on levels of the crust, air pollution, but SOOOOOO WRONG ABOUT his findings. Like he proved items underneath other object, but because he based the age of the earth from the creation of eden and saying the earth is only 6000 years old, estimated the age of items completely wrong. The book is "Finding atlantis: a true story of genius, madness, and an extraordinary quest for a lost word"

[@marocat4749]

Will robert cover it :O I mean he sounds kinda the worst in some ways good i mean bad enough for the show :O

[@jamiefrontiera1671]

@@marocat4749 I wouldn't say the worst, he did a lot of good and based on when he was in history, he just went a little insane once he started fixating on Atlantis. You do have to remember at this time the mere idea that the earth was billions of years old and not 6000 years old was not just unheard of but unthinkable. And he figured out the model of the human circulatory system and what the purpose of veins and arteries, so there is that. The book is very well written.

[@ludo_narr]

The first attempt at pronouncing Rosenkreutz as "Rosencroy" was already pretty good. You just have to add the -tz at the end, pronounced as a sharp Z like the -tz in "pretzel".

[@marocat4749]

Oh , good nearlyperfect attempt, and a putn joke, not z enough. Zust the pre"z"el z

[@jobreakstheinternet5100]

Weird occultist here! Thank you for covering her. I can't wait to hear the rest.

[@vfanon]

For those interested in further videos on the topic, a KZbinr I’m a big fan of, Rosencreutz, also covered Theosophy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2PIapWdaMiEnc0si=jhJwS2xZs-qA5V4m Hopefully that doesn’t get eaten because for those interested in the specifics (specifically the “boring arguments between occultists”) I think it’s a good addendum. Happy Holidays & New Year and stuff all

[@kylehayden3113]

Holy shit they missed a bleep of the Blue Apron child hunting island. We finally gottem!

[@ZorroinArkham]

The most cartoon lunch lady name

[@matthollywood8060]

Funniest thing I've heard all year, on the last day of the year, has to be Sophie desperately trying to steer the conversation back away from which type of sandwich is the most fuckable. You are a true unsung hero/gyro, Sophie.

[@KakuEpsilon]

I know that no one actually reads any of these comments on this account, but I gotta say that it's fucked up that Jamie Loftus is saying that all Minions are male. They, much like the Raving Rabbids, have no actual gender and have been known to switch between the heteronormative male and female at will by changing their outfits and mannerisms.

[@vfanon]

I can’t believe Illumination did nonbinary representation… so brave. 😢 (I kid but you’re absolutely right that they represent a genderless/fluid chaotic comic relief force)

[@vfanon]

Also your fellow fans read the comments so it’s all worth it right? I spent my Christmas writhing in pain from a stomach virus so I feel no shame spending the night after replying to KZbin comments instead of sleeping.

[@KakuEpsilon]

I appreciate you replying to my comment and making me not feel ignored. I hope you're feeling better now, and thatnext year is as amazing as not being ignored made me feel after sepnding the entire holidays, and most of the back half of the year for that matter, disowned.@@vfanon

[@vfanon]

@@KakuEpsilon Glad I could help in a small way, and I appreciate the nice words back. Let's hope for a good year for us all

[@r.w.bottorff7735]

Excellent choice 😂 This is the best Xmas present of all! Oh dang, and JAMIE is in the house!

[@derekschmidt2703]

OMG, the introduction for this one is incredible

[@goodun2974]

" Myths are those things that never were but always are". Yeats

[@rorylynch1203]

I’ve been waiting for this since I started listening 🎉

[@NoPegs]

Christmas Bashtards? Impressive!❤

[@kozmaz87]

That is a cuckoo not a magpie

[@grindsaur]

This was way more unhinged than usual! :D

[@skug9bob]

Hmm? Wasn't the inflatable pyramid the one the other villain substituted for the _actual_ pyramid of Egypt? I'm fairly sure the original pyramid, the one he stole, wasn't inflatable.

[@michaelwright8978]

the Atlantis story from Plato is probably from Egyptian accounts of the Mycenaean Greeks defeating the Kubutri (Minoans) after the eruption of Santorini critically weakened their civilization.

[@ViolentOrchid]

How could you steal something everyone is just "inheriting" from a previous civilization?

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

It's like how children steal their DNA from their parents.

[@shawna1278]

@@CliffSedge-nu5fvgreat one! 😂

[@Justin_42]

shout out to subtitles making the line: "hyper boring Atlantis"

[@theonetruefunkmaster]

1:24:34 huh so thats what company he says during the bleeps

[@dracorex426]

Neither Heracles nor Persephone are Solar deities. Heracles is a Striker-Thunderer and Persephone is wheat.

[@janea4777]

I just have one question. Why am I just finding your podcast?

[@hungryhedgehog4201]

Rosencreutz would be pronounced like Rosenkreuz, meaning rose cross.

[@revolt81]

Fun thing about conan...howard claims that conan came to him and threatened him, forcing him to write the stories...

[@Ricky-pr5wz]

Is it just being concerned about the abstract concept of honor or is it really being afraid of the social pressure that would turn ever your closest friends against you?

[@marocat4749]

I mean honor was kinda that in honor societies? Especially chivalry. Or knowing dirt on people?

[@MrGksarathy]

I actually might have a family connection to this cook because my great-great-great-grandfather was a fairly prominent Indian theosophist at this time which probably personally knew her. That being said, his legacy is relatively positive because he helped found a school that still exists and is considered elite and a couple of his daughters engaged in inter-faith and interracial marriages in the 30s with his support. Every account I've heard of him and other Indian theosophists paint them as pretty based for the time.

[@Sushiman118]

"What will be the post-apocalyptic cryptid" Uh. It's gonna be the pre-apocalyptic cryptid. It'll be Gritty.

[@eira5586]

The name sounded familiar so I thought I may have heard this one before, then the five minute talk about sandwich fucking started. I would have remembered that.

[@SesshyLover777]

Fs in the chat for Jamie's shower time experience 😭

[@naughtiusmaximus1811]

42:54 to get to our meat of the matter

[@yeahnaaa292]

Nick Cage is the only actor that should have been considered for the role of Dali in a bio-pic. He's PERFECT for it.

[@marocat4749]

How about him hubbert, especially the sea years.. 😂. Seriously good acting and good at playing crazy especially.

[@tmtb80]

Crispin Glover for the win!!!

[@deadasfak]

Ahg so it's blue apron with the child hunting island!!!

[@ilessthan3bees]

They didn't bleep it! It's a Christmas miracle.

[@blakewisswell]

44:20 wait, what about Wernher von braun?

[@Chaosqueenngami]

The bleeping of the child hunting island just makes me want to learn more about it.

[@adrianpetyt9167]

So did they think the Ur-civilization was actually in Ur of the Chaldees or was it just called 'Ur'?

[@origami_dream]

Dang, what was Robert on for this episode. Some *frenetic* energy for this one.

[@thenatureofnurture6336]

First time listener. Already exhausted.

[@origami_dream]

@@thenatureofnurture6336 Don't blame you. I'd skip it. He chills out a bit as it goes but this is not the norm. Maybe go for the Jim Bowie episodes or something. Most are a lot more chill.

[@IRJ53I]

Missed a (bleep) at the end.

[@KaiTenSatsuma]

I just happened to finish listening through this whole one two weeks ago 😄

[@colonelweird]

In this episode I learned about the time Tolkien smashed a guy in the face with a beer bottle. Which is a thing that definitely happened.

[@FakeSchrodingersCat]

Now I want a movie or something about the gangster lifestyle of Oxford Dons. I just have a image of Tolkien and CS Lewis walking into a bar mortarboards at a jaunty angle, before pulling out and dual wielding handguns from their robes in a dramatic slow motion scene as they gun down the Cambridge maths department, with doves flying around all John Woo like.

[@computer_toucher]

This'll be interesting, I read like half of one of her theosophy books lol

[@dracorex426]

It was Blue Apron???

[@chompytv8591]

“No guys, you don’t get it, the MCU is REAL, and also there’s ME!”

[@turtle4llama]

"WE'LL GET THERE WHEN WE GET THERE!"

[@loner419]

I should start a gyro business and name the longest, fattest gyro on the menu "The Chamberlain".

[@adrianpetyt9167]

Cuckoos lay their eggs in other birds' nests. Magpies steal shiny things.

[@Reed5016]

32:00

[@firefox5926]

28:41 which is funny when you think about it because that last paragraph just sounds like s how religion starts lol

[@mrchoochoohead9033]

Jerking it with menthol showergel is my thing. Unsubscribed

[@dukenukem4343]

I jerk it with aftershave, get on my level!

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

I use aloe - not the gel, the whole plant.

[@nicholasbembridge3087]

Thanks for ruining hotdogs and gyros for me 😂

[@firefox5926]

20:34 its rome fanfic lol

[@sholem_bond]

"If you almost die as a baby, you'll spend the rest of your life dealing with the baggage from that" It's true, but she shouldn't say it

[@marocat4749]

The order of the red star is weird,not onlyis it actually progressive but their chosen one groomed leader, did eventually step down and just hold kinda motivation speeches. Dissolving it.

[@yourlocalnerd7788]

Guess I'm only person with a near death birth experience and didn't have a wild weird life but I suppose I still have time

[@beausaccount88]

Listen, lady, I dig your whole vibe but you're dead fucking wrong on your take on Remember Me. It was a low-key masterpiece that perfectly highlighted that the single most important day in almost a century - a day that has a legacy of untold death, destruction, suffering, and fear - was a perfectly arbitrary and meaningless day... until the precise second it wasn't.

[@thenatureofnurture6336]

"I stopped listening when Jamie said it was wet"❤

[@autobanblast5782]

She Helena on my Blavatsky until i

[@Ulubai]

Gwyneth Paltrow?

[@RedSpade37]

Goop

[@LoveLeigh313]

Skip the first 6 minutes. You’re welcome

[@phillipmoores2815]

Vomitus

[@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen]

This is just so fucking batshit. Blavatsky, minions, yoni eggs... A++, would be confused again.

[@louisvictor3473]

I believe the reason they placed Atlantis up north rather than Africa is not about eclypses, but the Polar Night, when the sun literally disappears for some days during the winter. Of course, this reinforcing what we would recognize as white supremacist ideas to a bunch of white folks did also play a role, though imo at first it was more of a lucky coincidence and then it snowballs.

[@GuerillaBunny]

Wait, wait. Are you telling me Nazis were angry at the Jews for doing cultural appropriation? That's hilarious. Can't make this shit up :D

[@THEHAR0LD]

"They must have lived somewhere the sun disappears" ITS CALLED NIGHTTIME, DICKBUCKET!

[@walterdimmick653]

I want my first five minutes of this video back, are the introductions always this dumb and unfunny? Mostly dumb jokes and cliches the first hour. Very low quality. So many asides and juvenile jokes. Robert does not demonstrate much if any historical insight.

[@DDlambchop43]

it took you 6 min to get to the point and that 6 min was disgusting immature noise. What do people see in this show?

[@miguelvelez7221]

Interesting well researched stories about the past done in a manner that actual people converse in the real world. It's all par for the course if you have any knowledge of Robert Evans as a content creator. I have no issue with blue language or or observational humor so I get a lot out of the show because I pay attention to the information being given.

[@CliffSedge-nu5fv]

Don't forget the numerous factual inaccuracies.

[@WebertHest]

@@miguelvelez7221 Well-researched?:)

[@miguelvelez7221]

@@CliffSedge-nu5fv So... How many cults have you been a part of? Ballpark figure.