Part One: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

[@mansaurus_wrex]

i have been WAITING for this not just a bastard but a literal supervillain

[@DissertatingMedieval]

Yes. My going theory regarding Trump right now is that the gameplan is for Trump to die, then Peter FUCKING Thiel will just have his bought politician JD Vance undermine democracy full stop.

[@afakeslimshady]

It's me, I am the one person all these Alien: Resurrection jokes are for. I appreciate your genius, Robert.

[@EricDMMiller]

We can all laugh at Alien: Resurrection.

[@cGoryeo]

There are dozens of us. Dozens! I think as a kid I heard on the DVD commentary that Sigourney Weaver said she refused to do any more Alien moviesuntil 'they drove a dump truck full of money to my house' and that image has stuck with me more than EDIT: almost anything from the movie itself

[@Rockyzach88]

A lot of these guys just never grew up from late teenager ideology. I remember when I was like this. Thankfully I learned to think.

[@sebastianb.1926]

Rebe! Tell us more.

[@keyofpop]

I think this every time I hear about these people! I wouldn't say I was exactly like this, but black and white worldviews, putting too much stock in being a certain way and how I'm perceived, thinking there's only a few forms life can take in order to be "successful", being very misanthropic.... It all screams teenager. These men are teens.

[@GarrettMcGrath815]

'failure to escape highschool'

[@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug]

Considering how many self-proclaimed "Libertarians" love Pinochet, I think Helicopter Libertarian might have different connotations.

[@globsdo-j35]

please God let this be a 10 part series, this is glorious

[@crystalenby3741]

Spotify says it’s4 parter

[@Coestar]

Robert seems to be losing resolution with every new episode

[@ThereIsOnlyGaja]

This is what reading too much history does to you. Beware!

[@franzfanz]

I love how he's had this camera for months now and still can't get it set up correctly.

[@MikeHutch88]

Mad respect how he never looks into the camera, I do the same shit during Zoom meetings. Major power move

[@Mors]

The feds are just gradually downgrading his internet connection ahead of the final siege.

[@davidchristian8447]

​@@Morsit's a joint operation between the FDA and the Washington state patrol.

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

The story starts with "His dad was a German chemical engineer" so i guess everything is gonna be fine!

[@MajorHickE]

My city's aviation museum has a Hall dedicated to portraits of famous pilots and engineers who pushed manned flight forward. A significant number of the featured engineers are Germans born in the 1890s-1900s who did their best work from 1933 to 1945. At no point do any of these portraits or placards explain why that span of years keeps popping up for German aviators. I'm sure nobody has thought to pursue the implications of this.

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

​@@MajorHickE eh probably nothing to worry about.

[@harkonen1000000]

@@MajorHickE Put a paperclip on that.

[@huckthatdish]

@@MajorHickEthey were tragic victims of communism, clearly.

[@THEHAR0LD]

Historically, being friends with Dick Cheney can get you shot by Dick Cheney, so I personally wouldn't take his endorsement.

[@sharkbelly1169]

I’m assuming this “face turn” is a ruse designed to hurt democrats.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

Hey, that's what happens when hunting quail with 4 scotch before lunch

[@punksci6879]

As a Kiwi this guy scares the crap out of me, I'm sure he wants to turn us into his Congo.

[@franzfanz]

I would have labelled these episodes "Peter Thiel, the Evilest New Zealander." Seriously, I can't believe we invited this viper into our nation.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Kia ora, guys. It's scary how many of these billionaire ghouls are just buying up our country.

[@phil3924]

Hopefully he’ll ban white people from doing the Haka. It’s like imitating someone having a seizure. In bad taste

[@dziban303]

Noah is an excellent guest, more of him plz

[@andrewwestfall65]

Doing a BtB with the guest being the subject would go fucking hard

[@FirstIsa]

That would be a trial, with the guest trying to defend themselves while Robert just sits there with a stack of records "okay so explain why this was good"

[@russelljackson2818]

​@@FirstIsaif he could combine this with his other show idea, Super Soaker Full of Piss, the sentencing portion of the show would be very interesting indeed

[@Jakeurb8ty82]

I was 14 when I though 'imagine what humanity could accomplish if all of society was organized to pushing us into the future.' -and then I immediately realized that was some hitler ass shit.

[@ThatsMyRice]

35:57 I imagine Robert's neck tattoo actually says "Born to WAAAAHHGG!"

[@GuerillaBunny]

Wait, accepting mortality is an "ideology"? Holy cow, we fell off the rails earlier than I anticipated. Why is it that all of these guys decided their ideologies when they were children, and never stopped to evaluate whether it's even possible?

[@Apjooz]

Well accepting our biology as something that can't be further engineered.

[@EBannion]

I think the reason Rio Tinto sounded familiar was because in 2021 they blew up an archaeological / historical site in australia after explicitly being told not to.

[@mkvenner2]

And that wasn’t the first time

[@alexxistiredofyourbullshit7144]

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Mining companies in Australia destroy Indigenous sacred sites regularly.

[@skylertherobot]

in 2021 and now 2024 they are making the largest lithum mine in Serbia, there's evidence that they are also trying to bribe the scientists that wrote a paper detailing why the project is a bad idea. Not just that, but on the 2021 protest someone got up and hit a peaceful protestor with an excavator. They're beyond evil

[@crimson_oracle]

I often think Robert and I share half a brain, the 10 mins of alien resurrection references in an episode where he also talks about impressing the 14 year old at the warhammer store may have sealed it

[@wrexvincent]

Fun fact Rankin/Bass (the duo production team for the animated Hobbit movie) also revolutionized the art of Stop Animation and are responsible for all the 'claymation' Christmas specials of the 60s and 70s. They also adapted the Peter S Beagle novel 'The Last Unicorn' some years later. They also took quite a few songs Tolkien wrote in the Hobbit and scored them in the film with help of Maury Laws. HOWEVER the one song that was written specifically for the film is indeed the one Thiel quoted. Uhhhh okay thats all I have to add

[@Rennar3210]

They also outsourced a lot of animation to Japan, and much of the original workforce for Studio Ghibli came from one of those studios.

[@xXRickTrolledXx]

Rudolf is my favorite seasonal Anime

[@marocat4749]

Oh the last unicorn, great movie

[@MarauderMorgaine]

I still watch so many of those Christmas claymations every year. The nostalgia hits HARD.

[@ghostinthecode]

45:00 i am the one alien resurrection fan that appreciates the alien jokes. thank you for your service gas station man

[@AlexKo-457]

From all the people you discussed here Peter is one of most clever.

[@dreamer5687]

first time hearing of this fella : 0

[@Korkosz-q7e]

@@dreamer5687 He is a type of guy who doesn't want to in the center of everybody's attention. He is more of a "behind the curtain" guy.

[@andrewklang809]

Discovered the show only about a month ago, and have been going through the backlogs. This is the first series I'm catching from the beginning. And...wow. It's a whopper already.

[@marocat4749]

Be preparedto ransomly talk about something something products and services :P

[@prodigal_southerner]

I can understand not judging someone for their high school stuff, and I would even go so far as to say that in some circumstances grace should be extended to people who do stupid shit in university. That being said, I would not extend that grace to someone who was defending a rapist (and let's stop using "statutory" as a modifier for rape - children cannot consent, and in the absence of consent from both parties a rape has occurred) or telling gay people AIDS was them getting what was coming to them.

[@onytay75]

Man, if democracy ends because of a cowhide rug Like it's not even the best animal to rug.

[@inappropriatern8060]

It died for a while over an art school rejection letter.

[@onytay75]

@@inappropriatern8060 crap. You're right.

[@keyofpop]

Kids are experts at that kind of vague psychological warfare that bullying is. I'm small, but I never once got shoved in a locker or whatever. Making sure I felt disgusting and unwelcome though? Always. Genuinely crazy how good they are at that.

[@AnthonyFlack]

Picture a time in the unfathomably distant future, long after everything else has ceased to be, trillions of years since the last dim stars went out and cast the universe into eternal darkness. There is nothing left now except for the eternal consciousness of Peter Thiel, who never accepted the ideology of the inevitability of death.

[@prodigal_southerner]

My god, that would be such poetic justice. Also, after the last stats burn out, that won't be the last light in the universe; once a black hole evaporates off sufficient mass, it will explode, so there could be intermittent flashes before complete equilibrium is achieved. Sadly, whatever was powerig the substrate hosting his consciousnes would have died well before any of that happens.

[@campbellboisvert2268]

On the hobbit quote: I think what the original author is trying to say is that Thiel misrepresented that quote from the hobbit, elevating it from a mere animation line to an actual word of Tolkien. He might be reaching out to further cast doubt that on thiels projected image of perfection.

[@KelleyElizabeth]

Hit 200k today. I'm really grateful for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months. Started with 14k in June 2023

[@LadyB-hg6yc]

A lot of people keeps talking about investments and how investment trade change their lives. I really need to engage myself in someway of earning more income and stop depending on the government...

[@JonhPeter-s4z]

I've always wanted to trade Crypto for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me although I have watched a lot of KZbin videos about it but I still find it hard to understand.😔😔😔

[@JonathanBarna-db7ni]

Wow that's nice She makes you that much!! please is there a way to reach her services, I work 3 jobs and trying to pay off my debts for a while now!! Please help me.🙏🙏

[@KelleyElizabeth]

people are ignorant of profitability in bitcoin investment and that has been the major issues limiting their investment

[@KelleyElizabeth]

My family status changed within a year since we first encountered this servant of God, Elizabeth Maria Hawley

[@jessaminehaak8253]

God as soon as Robert said "Rio Tinto" I felt The Fear XD

[@franzfanz]

You have to admire their commitment to doing everything in the most evil possible way. Could we mine this uranium without kicking a puppy? Sure, but we're Rio Tinto. We go the extra mile for you.

[@nosferados8402]

16:10 not to sound like a buzzkill but werent there complaints from the state when during relief efforts there was a bunch of unrelated airtraffic, which was a hinderance to said efforts

[@mats8375]

I was waiting for this episode! Thanks!

[@matthewcaldwell8100]

What's....Palan my Tir?

[@tjbarke6086]

Everyone knows that the ability to accumulate capital through happenstance and amorality is what makes one the most fit to govern society.

[@EtherwroughtPaige]

Me and my wife are both major Alien fans. We know what you are getting at buddy! you do you 😆

[@p8ntballnxj]

I'm just here for when Peter slaps lawsuits and tries to take down CZM.

[@Musamecanica]

It will be worth it if this is at least a 3 parter.

[@IRocaNox]

@@Musamecanica This is a 4 parter according to the description.

[@Musamecanica]

@@IRocaNox Lets all start a go fund me for the lawsuit then. Can't wait to listen to the rest.

[@joshv.1490]

Sophi was right. There are three animated Tolkien movies as well. Hobbit and the return of the king done by the same animators and more kids targeted and the Bakshi older audience LOTR. Real nerd weighing in here.

[@marocat4749]

Yes , one was released as as scam to hold the rights hostage, which worked, but yes that weird movie that even was animated , but not produced in earnest.

[@kinslayermds]

The joke about dropping acid and not needing tracer rounds is so funny.

[@_vcctv_]

21:06 Uranium Fever has gone and got me down 💃uraaaaaanium fever 🎤🎶💃🎶

[@TeagueChrystie]

Great guest. Good contributions.

[@imagine212]

My favorite thing is Robert correctly pronouncing "Cuyahoga" but a couple months ago missing "Monticello"

[@EricDMMiller]

Robert, I appreciate that you are willing to let yourself go and don't care about how you look or your physical condition. We should all embrace our blob-selves.

[@WaltzingUndead]

Robert is the sexiest man alive.

[@donkeyfly43]

*Atonal Scream

[@Lifelover992011]

Cant wait to find out what's the deal with Thiel

[@globsdo-j35]

buckle up boys this is gonna be good

[@scttschlz]

Yikes: this podcast taught me that I was at Snodfart at the exact same time as Thiel. AFAIK, I never encountered him though I was writing columns for the Daily for a couple of semesters. (I was never sure why the Daily ran on semesters when the classes were on quarters.) I may have seen the Review, but I'd have never opened a copy.

[@Musamecanica]

Fuck yeah, Peter thiel for Halloween. The scariest bastard yet.

[@inappropriatern8060]

Interchangable with the Tucker Carlson costume at Spirit.

[@Durandurandal]

With the cow hide rug thing, without knowing *how* Klaus actually had that conversation with Peter, there's no way of knowing what he was trying to elicit in his son, other than being honest with his answer, lol

[@ph0enixr]

Suggested title for Behind The People You Don't Want To Have Dinner With: "Behind the Mustard"

[@ChristinaMuzzu]

I just discovered your channel and am beguiled! Terrifying, informed, funny, relevant. Thank you so much.

[@gypsyharrison9101]

I thought you meant Gravedigger like the monster truck, but still, stoked you are doing a BtB on Theil.

[@benway23]

Thank you for your work. I bought some bolt cutters.

[@kaitlynnp582]

I didn't expect to fit into the pretty big tolkein nerd category, but here I am.

[@siobhanroberts2329]

Lol, Peter Theil is one of those guys who tries to win dnd.

[@SgtKaneGunlock]

he really is the Anti-Brennan Lee Mulligan

[@outistynnanyt5153]

Wow, WTYP AND BtB release on the same day???

[@YourC0nsc1ence]

I don't know why. But I think one of the truly scary things about thes Thiel, Johnson & Musk types is I look and scream "They're only that old?!?!?!" Its hard to not hear about these types of political would be godkings and just expecting them to be Kissinger old. Or at least Prager or Koch old.

[@ruffethereal1904]

Hate seems to just age and warp people both physically and mentally.

[@24hoursinthelife]

56:19 Missed opportunity to call it "Big Zigg". Which will be my wrestling name once I break into the scene.

[@callsignmatora8380]

Painting Warhammer 40000 while I listen along XD

[@Finkeldinken]

Painting future God Emperor Thiel? 😬

[@bengarver8155]

Omg... I thought Andy Dick got clean.

[@inappropriatern8060]

C'mon, Bro. Don't be ridiculous.

[@rickc2102]

No, the Alien Resurrection joke is "Kill me"

[@waywardscythe3358]

My dad had a dinner with Dick Cheney (chance encounter) a few years ago. First words out of my mouth were "but you .... didn't go hunting with him right??" My mom thought it was pretty funny, my dad a little less so.

[@beryllium1932]

Cheney would think it was funny.

[@agrid2608]

South Africa occupied the entirety of Namibia, not just a part of it. (1914-1990)

[@MichałCoPopychał]

I'm a weird nerd and got bullied and I can understand his hatred towards education institutions. You can lose faith in broader humanity when you mix it with alienation, to be honest.

[@marocat4749]

Yes but the more productive way is to engage in demonstrasions and activism to try to change democratic.

[@billmozart7288]

1:01:43 "how dare you rage against my family's uranium mine!?" - Peter Thiel, probably

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

It's easy to see by looking at Bryan Johnson that drinking your teenage son's extracts turns you into a literal vampire.

[@SuperQuadocky]

That song is really good though. The Hobbit Film is pretty much completely in line with the story book.

[@SesshyLover777]

Libertarians, they DO move in herds.

[@williamknight8125]

I almost drowned as a kid using pool noodles to emulate Gollum in that animated movie. Lost my balance and panicked. Dad had to pull me out.

[@bvaugh11]

I knew nothing about Thiel until he went to war (and killed) Gawker Media.

[@iain349]

Great show, keep it up. Also - does anyone else think Robert looks a bit like Rasputin? :D

[@smidlem1117]

as someone who just watched alien resurrection two days ago, i appreciated the jokes sksksksksksk

[@EtruskenRaider]

Lenin was reactive too. The Bolsheviks were dead in the water after 1905 and had nothing to do with the February Revolution of 1917. He managed to get together for a few months in late 1917 and took the absolute full advantage. I wouldn’t call him a master schemer exactly.

[@SgtKaneGunlock]

yeah and the thing with a lot of the communist uprisings is they tend to get lucky more than anything i don't think there would be a soviet union if mahkno hadn't made his push or a CCP if mao hadn't made his own push

[@mndrew1]

You have to love the post-hippie, Heinlein inspired left wing librertarians. Those who didn't give up the fight after the corporate take-over in 80 are hard core.

[@LDMarko334]

Please get sponsorship from Palantir for the next episode 😜

[@andybryant3052]

Peter can you show me on this doll where this Constitutional Republic hurt you?

[@Yainteth]

If Robert thinks painting Orks is hard I’d like to see how he handles the Harlequins 😆

[@msslaughterotter8188]

14:47 so Peaty is the Bachelor from Pathologic 💀

[@biercenator]

Oh, let's go.

[@pedrog5846]

2nd source link is not working

[@FloridaGlowstickers]

Two things; if ANYONE knows the black speech, it's Thiel. Second we gotta know Evans, who's your army in 40k? Proud murder clown player here

[@sebastian3742]

wtf i love democracy now

[@Whocareslol420]

Listening to this episode in podcast form and the My Pillow guy tells me to buy gold in the ads. What

[@dre_withwithout]

27:52 sounds familiar 😂

[@sebastianb.1926]

Do we know for sure he wasn't actually born from a jackal like Damien in The Omen?

[@NatanSkonieczka]

I knew you're gonna do video about him before election day.

[@mrfreddorenton]

What's another apartheid billionaire, my minor miners?!

[@billmozart7288]

47:14 it's classic nerd pedantry

[@plagueparchments]

in another universe peter thiel would have been a warhammer enthusiast and i dont think thats something either of us would like to contend with

[@Gryphind0r]

55:07 *Memphis. Largest bass pro shop in the world.

[@portmantologist]

Competitive chess is such a red flag.

[@direktive4]

future thiel pinterest quote: 'Contradict Thy Self'

[@SavageGreywolf]

The Harris campaign knows that anyone _left_ of Dick Cheney is either voting for the Democrats out of sheer self preservation or cannot be persuaded to vote in any case. I would have voted for a cat if I thought it could keep Trump out of the White House-- and not like a cute cat, like an ugly old mangy alley cat missing an eye and part of an ear.

[@xXRickTrolledXx]

What I say to everyone to the left of bill Clinton is “the endorsement isn’t for you, it’s for the republicans who the Democratic Party desperately needs to rehabilitate”. Because, ultimately, this republic now stands entirely on a gentleman’s agreement between partisan oligarchs, and the democrat’s oligarchs are trying to convince the republican’s that the current hegemony is still profitable

[@bluester7177]

And yet she is tied, so apparently most of the voters in the country are republicans or don't care very much.

[@Cleanmybass]

Christ, October 11th? But that's MY birthday!

[@bambinouch]

dont forget the even earlier animated hobbit short film !!

[@ankitk236]

🅱️eter 🅱️hiel the ❄️astard

[@Schneekardinal]

Omg, yes!

[@isand85]

Holy fuck Rio tinto has an aluminium plant in my hometown in iceland!

[@rhabdob3895]

Rio tinto. Dark river. Black water?

[@SylwianaXP]

He may become one of the most influencial people in this century, if his plan works out.

[@bluester7177]

He already is for so many reasons, his companies have so many ties to multiple governments and doing so much evil shit.

[@marocat4749]

@@bluester7177 Yep he is kinda what George Soros gets accused of. George Soros isnt ok, But ehat crazy conspiracies are about him.

[@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247]

Ugh... so this guy is like if you crossed Elon Musk and Lily Orchard. BatFleck: "...God help us all."

[@EtruskenRaider]

Jeez, what a nut bar. No personal growth since he was 17. Impossibly emotionally stunted.

[@mattsonnie2989]

What's kleptoparasiting my class?

[@grayj7441]

That abortion quote feels like something someone on the spectrum would say.