Partitions in the Middle East and Africa That Almost Happened

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There were a few partitions in the Middle East and Africa that almost happened that could have really changed history.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:33 - Soviet Libya
01:18 - Kurdistan
02:41 - Wallet time
03:17 - British Togoland
04:40 - Israel/Palestine
05:38 - Next time
Music used:
"Waltz no. 40" by Pyotr Tchaikovsky

[@EmperorTigerstar]

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[@sameeknowsitall]

Great video, This is something new

[@sameeknowsitall]

Can you so the shining path-peru war??????

[@sameeknowsitall]

A soviet tripolinatia would be horrible

[@sameeknowsitall]

This is a british dream

[@AuthorMT0]

correction : Both Arab & Jewish population refused the 1948 partition plan, the Jewish population decided to take all the land by force by their (Plan Dalet) and started the 1948 nakba on March 10, 1948 later on the rest of the Arab states officially joined the war after 6 months on 22 September 1948. Read more before making lacking statments.

[@timothymclean]

Plot twist: The Asia video won't take two years, and takes three years instead.

[@bigchungus6320]

He technically did speak about Asia, since the Middle East is in Asia, but yeah the rest of Asia is going to take a while I’m sure

[@EiChing123]

😂😂😂😂

[@NOFX0890]

I like your style, youre hired.

[@dragonrykr]

It's been a year and it still ain't out

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

How to make a Brit happy in two easy steps: 1. Buy him a map of Africa (preferably blank); 2. Give him a pencil.

[@t.wcharles2171]

A ruler graded in inches

[@mappingshaman5280]

You forgot the most important steps Step 1: find a Chinese man with some tea Step 2: give him some opium Step 3: when he's high as a kite, take the tea and give it to the brit

[@sdrawkcabUK]

Of course, the French, Germans, Spanish and Portuguese had nothing to with it 🤔🤔

[@landon8214]

@@sdrawkcabUK that isnt related with the joke but they actually did even though spanish and german borders were a little better

[@ecurewitz]

He’ll take it all

[@zerosuitsamus2340]

"Soviet Russia Libya" *Hoi4 flashback bordergore

[@spacecats2185]

oh no

[@foodman3695]

0:52 I heard of a partition where the Brits were gonna give Cycrenia independence, the French would keep Fezzan, and the ITALIANS will get to keep Tripolitania. I wonder how that would've went...

[@athazis1532]

Wondering if that would of cancelled the civil war

[@zainmudassir2964]

A new fascist movement would have emerged in Italy controlled Libya. For whatever reason,white settlers in Africa tended to have most extreme race policy and heavy handed rule over the majority

[@sjsound506]

@@athazis1532 would *HAVE** or would've. If you use "of" it's wrong.

[@TheCoper-qp4ou]

@@zainmudassir2964 that didnt happen in Somalia even though it was under Italian administration from 1950 to 1960

[@user-pn7jz9vr2z]

​@@zainmudassir2964 not for whatever reason, it's pretty obvious, it's easy to tolerate other races when you don't live with them and know how they really are

[@hornet370]

Soviet Military: Yes libya would be good staging ground for invasion against the West. Turkey blocks the bosporus straits from Russia leaving Libya isolated and unable to receive russian supply Soviet Military: *Surprised Pikachu Face*

[@Rynewulf]

maybe thats part of why they didnt push hard for it? It would be a tiny satellite reliant on physically impossible Soviet blocked at Gibraltar or Istanbul, whereas most Soviet aligned states were either puppet states on the borders of Russia or were either self sufficient independent nations or rebellions seeking independence or coup

[@MrDoesGeography]

Nice! I love these videos so much! You let me learn more stuff! Love you Tigerstar!

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Thanks for delivering.

[@TheEmm4lpha]

Fun Facts on a couple of the partitions: -Libya: Italy (or at least, the then Foreign Minister, Carlo Sforz) actually made a serious attempt at getting a Tripolitania as a UN Trust Territory, like it did with Somalia and also wanted to do with Eritrea. There was obvisously some prestige involved, and keeping the appearances of not having lost the war, but the main reason behind this was apparently that any work done in building up the former colonies could be a point in Italy's favor when approaching the Islamic world. -Palestine: Allegedly, Jordan also tried to partition in with Britain before war broke out. Jordan also apparently was close to trying to invade and conquer Syria, in those years, something that apparently the Syrian leadership was extremely concerned about, as Jordan had the better army.

[@condor237]

Jordan just wanted pay back bc the king of Syria that got ousted was the king of Jordan’s cousin

[@foodman3695]

IIRC in 1960 when Ethiopia ended their equal federation with Eritrea and started killing Eritreans Italy wanted to intervene, but not gain it as a colony as colonies were viewed as bad at that point.

[@chimera9818]

Jordan kinda underrated country and military (it gave Israel more of a fate than Syria and Egypt)

[@bettinascholz6389]

Well done👍

[@ihavetowait90daystochangem67]

Instead of a Two State Solution between Palestine and Israel, let’s just make it an Entire US State so everyone is happy!

[@rilonius2865]

No, Albania should annex it.

[@Argacyan]

The Ottoman solution

[@merrittanimation7721]

Maybe resurrect Nebuchadnezzar II, see what he does with the place

[@JstZelda]

The serbian solution

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

@@merrittanimation7721 That doesn't seem right to me. He was from modern-day Iraq, and there'd be problems with Iraq ruling over Israel today.

[@buncha3arrows195]

The likely reason why the Entente didn't force Turkey to give Kurdistan independence, is because both French Syria and British Iraq, have areas with large Kurdish populations. An independent Kurdistan would've likely led to breakaway regions in those countries, like we see today, but with the backing of a Kurdish majority state.

[@DocoMonde]

An entertaining video as always. Thankyou. Great timing also, my latest video covers a few of these same partitions.

[@MinorityRespecter88]

For Asia and the Pacific are you going to include the referendum that nearly resulted in New Zealand becoming a state of Australia?

[@GustavSvard]

Not a partition, that. But a video on possible unions would also be good. Maybe even one specifically just on alternate Australias? NZ joining as one (or two) states, alternate states/territories on the mainland, WI Papua became an oz territory instead of going independent, WI western New Guinea joined that Oz territory of New Guinea, WI all the British held islands in the Pacific were transferred to be under oz? etc etc. Maximum Australia ftw!

[@MinorityRespecter88]

@@GustavSvard You have made a blood enemy for life...

[@chorasmianmapping1849]

its not a partition

[@MinorityRespecter88]

@@chorasmianmapping1849 yes it it, case dismissed

[@genericyoutubeaccount579]

These videos have a very "old fashioned" or "nostalgic" style to them. Maybe it is the meh microphone or lack of serious editing/animations. Or maybe it is the background music. Or maybe it is that Tigerstar is still making videos the same way he has been making them for the past 5 years. idk. I can't pin it down. It might be because the video is 6 minutes, and it isn't the obligator 10-minute video so that you can put in 2 midroll ads.

[@korakys]

Isn't it a big coincidence that all of these places have ended up with current ongoing wars trying to bring about these very partitions (except to my knowledge Togoland)? No, there are no coincidences here...

[@charlesuzozie5747]

Togoland had some conflict a few years back. it was low intensity and not really reported on internationally but it happened.

[@korakys]

@@charlesuzozie5747 Yes I had assumed it would have ended by now. Thanks for letting me know I guessed right.

[@mrsupremegascon]

It's not that much surprising, if those places had clear ethnic borders, it would have been easy partition like everywhere else in the world. When you have a territory with that much patchwork of ethnicities, no amount of border will solve the ethnic conflicts.

[@korakys]

@@mrsupremegascon I don't think this is quite right. Greece and Turkey used to have a patchwork of ethnic mixture. A population exchange can go a long way to preventing future conflicts.

[@mrsupremegascon]

@@korakys Greeks and Turks never went along together, Turks dominated the Greeks, going as far as enslaving some, they suppressed Greek revolt with blood until the end. Bonus : If you look closer, to this question, you will also realize that most multicultural countries, where there is no clear borders between ethnicities (so not countries like Switzerland), are only held together by ann authoritarian regime keeping everyone in check. Where the regime forces are stronger than communitarian forces. Best example is Russia, China, Austria-Hungary and Yugoslavia. More this kind of countries become democratic, more the communitarian voice are heard, and more it become unstable. TLDR : Multiculturalism only work in an authoritarian state.

[@christopherantonio3612]

Interesting topic

[@nodical802]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TheLocalLt]

Libya essentially did become a Communist state, Ghaddafi set up a Socialist regime aligned to the Soviet Union and supplied Soviet weapons to other Socialist states such as Algeria while fighting against the French-aligned Chad

[@reinerbraun5369]

Europe moment

[@blagoevski336]

Nice

[@carolea7158]

Do you have one for the borders of Egypt? I'm especially interested in Halaib & Shalatin and in Tiran & Sanafir.

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

I remember this series

[@lildreadnaughtstarwar]

*Sarcastically* You also have to make a video on Antarctic partitions.

[@iskanderaga-ali3353]

Why sarcastically?

[@lildreadnaughtstarwar]

@@iskanderaga-ali3353 I don’t think anyone tried to partition a giant iceberg thousands of km away that wasn’t habitable until the UN’s resolution banning colonization the Antarctic was adopted.

[@iskanderaga-ali3353]

@@lildreadnaughtstarwar You underestimate Europeans

[@Bagster321]

@@lildreadnaughtstarwar watch jay foreman's video on Antarctica. They had land disputes

[@robertjarman3703]

Oh Scheiße, what have you done to the internet? Sykes Picot is going to look tame.

[@concept5631]

Vibin

[@DemonofChaos264]

1:52 the treaty of what? Lausanne would be like Los Anne

[@vrabb9030]

waah wahh

[@CamPaFai]

woah.. it's been two years

[@BoomWarzone]

1:13 Libya was a socialist state under Gaddafi during the cold war and was a soviet ally

The proposed Libya split is appealing to say the least. If such a thing were to happen Gaddafi might have never rose to prominence, a whole parallel could've unfolded.

[@hmmm3210]

"Gaddafi might have never rose to prominence" , imagine being so deep into neocon bs that you think that's some kinda major positive. Dudes acting as if he was Stalin or was in anyway a serious threat to the rest of the world.

[@mrsupremegascon]

And there would be no civil war right now, between east and west Lybia.

[@JamWRLD06]

It’s been over a year, where’s the Asia video?

[@luizmatthew1019]

Not sure if this would've counted. It Portugal's pink map in Africa is another

[@nicolascharlier3183]

Hello from France. I like your channel, but you should find a solution for the pronunciation of French names please. Lausanne (lozan, with a like in cat) is not Lhassa in Thibet, as you said it. Sèvres is quite like ’savr’ in English ( with a like in usa).

[@sylviamontaez3889]

there were proposals to partition eritrea between sudan and ethiopia

[@user-pn7jz9vr2z]

for Asia well, a few months ago I as a join Franco-russian proposal at dividing the Ottoman territories in asia between themselves I have no clue how to find it, I only saw it once

[@catmonarchist8920]

There could have been a repartition of Ulster too!

[@laufbl]

❤

[@anormalguy3393]

Treaty of serves was much and much worse than this. French and İtaly were claimed half of the anatolia

[@armenianmapper3168]

The territories were only influence zones .

[@armenianmapper3168]

@Jesse we need to pray jesse I don't think it was like that. I believe tgat influence zones were temporary and the allies would give territories back to turkey

[@starcapture3040]

it was not implemented, it was just discussion

[@collegepark301]

@@armenianmapper3168 Turkey had have lands that were temporarily occupied that was said to be given back but didnt. The Entente forces used the "temporary occupation" excuse often in other countries too like Egypt

[@afdalridwan3813]

@@collegepark301 Entete is Gay Entete nowdays is NATO

[@nikocadoavocadomapping3371]

We should collab

[@ryantan1754]

You lads better not start fighting..

[@MaxwellTornado]

0:58 He really just said Sai-ruh-naikuh

[@MaxwellTornado]

And then he double-checks the fr*nch word. 😭

[@t900badbot]

Now tell me about coffee pots

[@EzraOnEarth]

Didnt lebanon and syria also get partitioned, where they were split into states

[@antoneke89]

I can’t imagine Ghana like that, it’s so weird to me

[@johnheimer9628]

That's your voice?

[@outerspace7391]

I doubt the USSR would have taken a part of Libya. Its really disconnected from Russia proper and Soviet troops never landed in Africa anyway. It's the same reason Japan wasn't divided among the allies and the US kept it all.

[@IncredibleMD]

The French part is also more likely to have been given to Cyrenaica than Soviet Tripolitania.

[@outerspace7391]

@@IncredibleMD yea, that too.

[@starcapture3040]

there are already troops from Russia in Libya in the east

[@IncredibleMD]

@@starcapture3040 There weren't in 1945, when this partition was being discussed.

[@jackwest7197]

I thought Tanzania was split between Belgium and britan?

[@ThatOneCatto]

Rwanda and Burundi were given to Belgium and Tanganyika and Zanzibar were given to Britain with a tiny strip in the south (known as the Kionga (now Quionga) triangle) given to Portugal for their participation in the war.

[@occam7382]

@@ThatOneCatto, Zanzibar was already a British protectorate by WW1. Germany recoginzed Britain's claim there in exchange for Heligoland right next to Schleswig-Holstein.

[@ThatOneCatto]

@@occam7382 Yeah, I forgot. Thanks!

[@yodorob]

It would have been interesting - and a big boost to the Kurdish people - for there to be an independent Kurdistan. Though that might have had ramifications for world history as a whole, with the Middle East (unlike, say, South America or Australia) being in the thick of world history. That Kurdistan might have ended up just as easily Communist/pro-Soviet as capitalist/pro-Western, maybe even more so.

[@GambinoTheGoat]

noice

[@emib6599]

The best partition will always be the one organised between Portugal 🇵🇹 Spain 🇪🇸 and the Pope 🇻🇦 Everything west is mine, everything east is yours and both will be catholicis ✝️

[@MalaksMessage]

Hate to say this but Sèvres is pronounced without the e or s just as “sevr”

[@daSrilankanCat]

Yeah

[@timvlaar]

The proposed partition of Libya has the Soviets only controlling northwestern Libya, with France controlling the rest of western Libya. Why does the next map show the Soviets controlling all of western Libya. The French wouldn't just willingly give it up, would they?

[@chorasmianmapping1849]

It would eventually become an independent state as an ally of soviet union like east germany and I assume fezzan will become independent like tunisia, creating the opportunity for tripoli to invade fezzan, with the better resources and (presumably) better army tey would win, creating this situation

[@erikthomsen4768]

To my understanding the State of Fezzan would have all the western oil wells and Cyrenaica would have the rest. In effect the borders leaves Soviet Tripolitania without any oil as far as I can tell.

[@flawyerlawyertv7454]

👍

[@EZPZ_SoBadItsGood]

There are multiple other Israel/Palestine partitions you missed out on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodhead_Commission en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrison%E2%80%93Grady_Plan en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission

[@who167]

Came here to say this, although it might be because it was never realistically going to happen.

[@Yougottacryforthis]

Refusing every partiton as it gets gradually worse and worse, then launch a war you lose in. That's what I call a pro gamer move

[@Dock284]

I swear Ridge is Tigerstars version of Nord VPN or Raid Shadow Legends

[@marcscattolin1554]

Tbf ridge sponsors many youtubers

[@RepublicofUkraine]

@@marcscattolin1554 including pewd

[@overvieweffect9034]

this time it won't take two years... it will take three years! well, I hope not

[@yokaiou5848]

I like the Simpsons alt History of the US state of Saudisraelia.

[@hevconsume2504]

> Looks up "Sèvres" > Immediately mispronounces "Lausanne"

[@nono_Hoi4]

me seeing soviet libya WHA-

[@FormerlyKnownAsItalianNation.]

Noice

[@Al-Shaheedi]

Do Congo-Arab War

[@mrmr446]

Well you've already started on Asia as both main part of Turkey and Israel/Palestine are there.

[@nacelnikprosiak1260]

1:43 also armenians got genocided so no land for them

[@justsomeguy1695]

Damn the British really suck at borders not completely related here but in 1947 during the partition of India, a single lawyer who had literally never even stepped foot in India was assigned to draw lines on the map in the less than a year Lahore a multiethnic city was expected to be Indian but as Pakistan didn't have many major cities he gave it to Pakistan leding to extreme riots

[@iskanderaga-ali3353]

Multiethnic? The division wasn't ethnic anyway

[@justsomeguy1695]

@@iskanderaga-ali3353 it had about 40 per cent hindus and sikhs and also most commercial property was concentrated with the hindus

[@aayushagarwal4138]

@@iskanderaga-ali3353 he meant multi-religious, It was an Important city for the Sikhs, along with some surrounding villages. It is funny that the lawyer forgot about Karachi, one of the greatest cities in the Indian subcontinent smh

[@maxwalker1159]

!

[@wilpikle7754]

Damn no Assyria?

[@afdalridwan3813]

Damn No Indonesian east Malaya?

[@AliceEyler]

Oh so that's why USSR always annexes Libya in hoi.

[@NIsForNick67]

i finally know how to pronounce cyrenaica

[@iskanderaga-ali3353]

That's not the right pronunciation

[@NIsForNick67]

@@iskanderaga-ali3353 bruh

[@danieldelrosario7447]

The Minority Proposal was federation, not partition, for the Jewish and Arab States were meant to be under a single federal government.

[@sylviamontaez3889]

another possible partition in africa could've happened during the congo crisis

[@ForageGardener]

Mentions partitions and forgets Poland LOL

[@gamingdeeznuts]

*almost* happened

[@ZontarDow]

"Maybe Libya would have become a communist state during the cold war" Ghadaffi: "Uh, we did"

[@bastard-took-the-name-I-had]

Oh, so you dare approach the biggest hot spot on the planet? Every word you speak will be held against you fool, beware.

[@_Sami_H]

SOMEONE GIVE ME POPCORN HE SAID ISAREL AND PALESTINE!

[@nestoreleuteriopaivabendo5415]

[Throws popcorn bucket]

[@lavabeard5939]

when you say "one side wouldn't approve of the UN plan and a war would break out" that is probably false. neither israel or palestine would agree to the 47 un proposal because on israel's side it is a huge loss of territory, and on palestine's side, they generally believe it should all be palestine.

[@noahschwartz1222]

Just saying, pre-Israel Jewish government did approve of the 47 partition, although historical accounts show that, as you mentioned, they wanted more land and particularly Jerusalem, but saw international legitimacy and security garuntees as more important given the prospects of a 5 front war if they refused. They ended up facing a 5 front war anyway because the Arab Government refused, because, as you allude, Al-Husseini wanted 100% of the land for an Arab state. However, I think that the the Arabs may have been convinced to agree to the minority plan as it gave Arab control of Jerusalem and an overwelming amount of the partition, while the Jews would almost certainly reject such a plan. So ET is right to say that no plan would have resulted in both saying yes, because the minoity plan favored Arabs too much for the Jews to agree to it and the majority and final plans favored the Jews too much for the Arabs to agree to it.

[@mikekelly8279]

1:06 Instead, Libya remained whole and ended up turning it into a Socialist state in the late 60s.

[@chipseater_4537]

1:23 Dude, why are you double-checking your prononciation, and then misspronounce it ! We pronounce it like sèvr ! Btw we pronounce Lausanne like Lozan.

[@Javeec]

Guys don't forget it is an open "o", not a closed "o"

[@harriermcbride6296]

damn im early

[@roflmywaffles1313]

Everything would be better if Israel was split north and south No I will not give a geopolitical reason why I just like straight lines

[@shinsenshogun900]

What if they were split vertically: no sandwiched Israel (And their main seaport would be Jaffa), while Palestine gets the whole of ancient Philistia (which is more than Gaza), the Negev, and Jericho

[@chimera9818]

As Israeli: divide it to Tel Aviv and rest of Israel (most Israelis will be fine with it)

[@holden3808]

European take

[@merrittanimation7721]

Make is a checkerboard pattern. Yes it would be a logistical nightmare to govern and doesn't reflect ethnic lines in the least, but it would be pretty to look at on a map.

[@dedo9990]

@@merrittanimation7721 no it would be too small we need the whole middle east to be a checkerboard pattern

[@idan520]

There were so many proposals for how to divide Israel, you can read about two of them here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Conference_(1919%E2%80%931920) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulet%E2%80%93Newcombe_Agreement At the start, Jordan was supposed to be part of the planned jewish state but was later separated. It's interesting to see that over the years the jewish territorial demands became less ambitious and became much more realistic.

[@user-gr9fq9gt9w]

There were three more proposals of the British mandate of Palestine. But it is important to mention it was never Israel and Palestine - it was an Arab state and a Jewish state.

[@jeffreygao3956]

I’d rather have them be merged. This two state idea is not working.

[@you_dontknow_me6665]

@@jeffreygao3956 yeah look at Bosnia and Herzegovina i'm sure they're doing fine

[@idan520]

@@jeffreygao3956 it's isnt realistic beacuse a) it would give the arabs a majority in the government and allow them to make antisemitic laws, perhaps even a genocide, something the pla and hammas are not afraid to openly support. b) Israel is a western country with a great economy and living standards, a merge of Israel with gaza and the west bank would lead to an economic disaster

[@danialhalal]

@@idan520 The arabs didnt genocide the Jews for 1400+ years they lived together, i dont see why they would now. But I can understand the hatred between the two sides, as Israel continues its oppression and Hamas continues its resistance.

[@idan520]

@@danialhalal the arabs didn't genocide the jews until this tart of Zionism. After that, arabs did countless attacks against jewish civilians: the 1929 Palestine riots, the 1948 Cairo bombings, the Farhud... Hatred is present in both sides but one side looks for peace every time and have offered countless offers in favour of the other side (spoiler alret: it's not the arabs). On the other side you have a group of racist, extremist leaders who want to have all of the land for themselves. Abbas accused Israel of committing 50 holocausts in GERMANY (do I even need to explain that Israel isn't doing anything that is even close to the holocaust?) and refused to apologize for the terror attack on the Israeli sport team in the Munich Olympics. He also said in the past "that the Nazi mass murder of European Jews was the result of their financial activities, not anti-Semitism." And he is supposed to be moderate among the Palestinians, I am not even talking about hammas. Amin al-Husseini, who is a key figure in the creation of the Palestinian identity (before 1967, they were simply arabs) and nation was a known antisemite lead to the creation of the Arab SS division, he was a big supporter of hitler, many historians claim he was the one who suggested the final solution, he prevented the saving of jews and supported the extermination. Is it enough for you to understand why it isn't "hatred between two sides" but an attempt to erase a group of people and a group of people who is defending themselves for 2,000 years?

[@danny6598]

Albania should take control of Israel and Palestine

[@bg1052]

It feels like the palestinian-israli border was almost made to create a war because there's no way any dane person thought any of those partitions would work. Weird panhandles and exclaves, if you're really going to try and make an israeli state work, you could've tried harder than that.

[@thebristolbruiser]

Good thing that partition plan was rejected by the Arabs and never adopted, then.

[@raodvanlaontotaoke4993]

Treaty of Sevres or how it should be. Restoration of Armenia especially after the genocide the Turks comitted. Trebizond to an Orthodox country, as it was Greek for many centuries. Smyrna back to Greece. Independence for Kurdistan. Was it harsh for the Turks, sure I don't deny that, but so many nationalities would benefit from this treaty and would get their own country or legitime territory back.

[@yllbardh]

brits drawing lines on the map is the very source of, if not all then most of problems in this planet.

[@thebristolbruiser]

I thought ethnic diversity was a good thing.

[@user-zp9nf5qo8j]

"Allies could have still decided to go on with the referandum" what do you mean by that? No they couldn't because they lost they did not control that land and there were other more important issues it was not even brought up in lausanne. The only unresolved issue in that treaty was the ownership of Mosul which was settled later on in 1926. Treaty of Sevres as a whole could have happened and but it didn't. There is no scenerio where only Kurds get what they want from sevres since they were not a priority. If they were, there would be a referandum in northern iraq in the first place.

[@JacksonMarvel]

How is Israel and pal Africa?

[@lucasgomez0721]

Are you blind?

[@Marcus-nn6js]

What?

[@sdrawkcabUK]

Dude … that Africa map is 10+ years old !! 😂

[@siyacer]

bruh

[@m0ki129]

Tbh if "palestine" was and israel not. It would have been iraq / afganistan 2 fr. Glad israel exist!

[@redacted7060]

Without Israel the liddle east will be united under a non-aligned UAR and there would be no US intervention. So without Israel the middle east would be thriving

[@reddragon100]

@@redacted7060 no one likes a powerful state like them. Neither US or USSR would have liked a third player

[@Spiderfisch]

@@redacted7060 thats just wishfull thinking

[@Marcus-nn6js]

@@redacted7060 It would be a place of no democracy without Israel.

[@mdl2427]

Libya may (and I say may!) have been better off in the long run split in two since it seems to be doing a good job of that now.

[@numberpirate]

If Israel was allowed to exist then Kurdistan should as well. Once Russia falls, Turkey will be on notice.

[@Marcus-nn6js]

I agree.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

2:10 No😎

[@Proudenglishperson]

I like lybia 1 😅

[@stephmod7434]

Cyrenaica belongs to Greece. The name itself is Greek. (Tripoli is also a Greek word).

[@Proudenglishperson]

@@stephmod7434 ok 😅

[@stephmod7434]

@@Proudenglishperson οκ.

[@iskanderaga-ali3353]

​@@stephmod7434 Ur mom belongs to Greece

[@piter4595]

4:41 'biggest hotspot on the planet...' ukraine

[@NiskaMagnusson]

just make Israel part of Lichtenstein, problem solved.

[@solid7468]

4:48 The Jewish State in this proposal had a %49 Arab population because Jaffa city was made into an enclave of the Arab state inside the Jewish one. If you included Jaffa city in the surrounding Jewish state, it would have a %53-54 Arab majority. Also Palestinian Arabs own about %70-80 of private properties in the Jewish state according to the British census figures.

[@danialhalal]

they owned property caused they lived there for centuries !!!

[@user-gr9fq9gt9w]

That is a complete lie. The Jewish State was to be comprised of roughly 5,500 square miles and the population was to be 538,000 Jews and 397,000 Arabs. The Arab State was to be 4,500 square miles with a population of 804,000 Arabs and 10,000 Jews. Though the Jews were allotted more total land, the majority of that land was in the sparsely populated desert. By "private property" do you mean private land ownership? Not only that is completely irrelevant - especially because Jews (yes, specifically Jews) were literally were forbidden to own land there for thousands of years until 1917 - and even than they were only allowed to do so in very small and specific poor, arid and barren lands, as were defined by the White Papers, most of the Jewish-held lands, absolutely were not private areas, but communal and national.

[@solid7468]

@@user-gr9fq9gt9w Do you know the reports from the partition are available online and there is no point in trying to lie Jewish State would have 459,00 Arabs when adjusted for growth since 1945 and 498,00 Jews according to OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY UNTIED NATION SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON PALESTINE ?How hard is it to look Land ownership per 1945 British Census

[@solid7468]

Source: United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#/media/File:Palestine_Land_ownership_by_sub-district_(1945)

[@user-gr9fq9gt9w]

@@solid7468 You just forgot that the partition plan was in 1947, not 1945.

[@IapetusStag]

Talking about the partition of Turkey with the Kurds. Oh boi, you are going to trigger some Turk nationalists out there with all the YGP and PPK issues.

[@afdalridwan3813]

They are NATO member, of course if any other NATO members support separatist, then Scottland,Catalan and others resistor Will emerged it's not like' Taiwan doesn't gonna eaten by Ccp yet

[@picoroja]

Christ is Lord ☦️

[@wales2815]

Palestine is rightfully Kosovo

[@Marcus-nn6js]

Yes

[@Help_palestine_gaza]

Instead of Israel and Palestine just give Palestine its true land and rights and make Israel go to Florida the us have 50 states they love Israel so much they’re willing to give them a single state

[@ColoringAHouse]

Nah

[@thelord4191]

why dont arabs go to the rest of arabia they have like 15 states if they love palestine so much just give them one single state

[@Marcus-nn6js]

People like you who only want one people there are why this conflict keeps on going.