The Terrible Disaster of the SS ARCTIC (1854)

[@BrightSunFilms]

Fantastic re-telling of this story. I haven't heard of it until now and it's pretty shocking. Thanks for shedding some much needed light on a an often not talked about era of shipping!

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

Hey it's you! Really big fan of you BSF, Didn't know you watched Part-Time Explorer!

[@hilaryhowserkendrick552]

So glad you made this comment. I've watched BSF for years.. no doubt your engagement here helped this channel find its way into my feed of suggested videos.

[@The88Cheat]

Well if it isn't another one of my favorite history/story channels.

[@balyboo5856]

Deleted - the comment, was not correct.

[@treylem3]

🎯

[@biffbuffington4393]

Stewart Holland, the young man who stood by his post and continued to fire the signal cannon until the end. Last recorded words were, 'Tell the world at least one man stood by his post.' Mr. Stewart Holland, acted honorably and with great courage in the face of such a horrific scene. Stewart Holland; may his name be remembered 170+ years after his passing as the brave soul who stood by his post in an effort to save others. Much respect.

[@robg8203]

Everyone would like to think that they'd do what Stewart did. But when all your shipmates decide to abandon their post, it's hard to believe that many, if anyone, would actually stay. Even if it was no use, at least he died a hero.

[@carlsaganlives6086]

...and we're still talking about him today. Not sure I can say the same 170 years from now about a Taylor Swift show.

[@mickzed6746]

​@@robg8203with honour.

[@mickzed6746]

​@@carlsaganlives6086who's Taylor swift?

[@Pgb622]

​@@carlsaganlives6086what's a Taylor and why is it swift?

[@Kroggnagch]

Woman with the bloody hands, the young man that said “tell the world at least 1 man stood by his post to the end” are the reasons I liked this video. Those 2 folks, who may’ve never met the other, are the epitome of heroes.

[@MA-yu2ss]

Why?

[@GenericOceanLinerHistorian]

@@MA-yu2ss Because many would flee for their lives. Many would want to hijack a lifeboat, or even just *try* to survive. These people did not. They stayed with the ship, doing their best to save as many lives as possible. Putting the lives of random people you don’t even know before yours, even if you *know* you will die, is the true definition of a hero.

[@bombfirst157]

The vesta captain is an idiot

[@kennethgardner3310]

Kindly DON'T THINK THAT THERE COULD HAVE been a better deal of damage caused

[@longkeithdiablo8812]

I bet they were "god fearing" people?

[@MrDlt123]

I dont blame Capt Luce for never sailing again. Besides the crushing guilt he must have felt, how could he ever trust a crew after it seems most of them selfishly ignored his orders?

[@donnalayton6876]

I would never step a foot on a dock again, let alone a ship.

[@l0rdapophis]

I'd be too busy hunting down my old "crew" for malicious retribution. This was a villain origin story like no other

[@DriedJizzSock]

@@l0rdapophisThat actually sounds exactly like Pyke from League of Legends. His whole shtick is that he has a list of “corrupt” sea captains and crewmates

[@aako-dd1ly]

​@@l0rdapophisthey prob all already died save a few

[@fogsmart]

“Grandpa, what was it like at sea when you were a young seafarer?” “Oh little one, those were hard days. My mates and I drank ourselves silly as our vessel sank, but we did manage to rape a few women while still floating. Then I hacked the chief steward to death with an axe before throwing a mother and child into the cold abyss so I could confiscate a life jacket and take over a lifeboat. We were rescued by our competitors but me and my companions chose to go to Canada instead and that’s my legacy to you dear child.”

[@whitters1211]

You warned us, but this was still more gruesome and horrific than I ever could have imagined. A well-told story. Thanks for sharing it.

[@mikethebike2456]

🛵 Have to agree. Truly a scary story for grown ups.

[@chrise.321]

Truly horrible, much worse than I imagined.

[@ultraloyalservant2felineov41]

Watch the movies Hostel 1 and 2

[@cez_is_typing]

Right? I was chilling and then the bodies got stuck in the paddles and I audibly gasped

[@MNT96]

Honestly, while the captain is ultimately in charge, Captain Luce wasn’t making horrible decisions here imo. He tried to do the noble thing and save the passengers but it was his crew that destroyed any semblance of an evacuation that screwed the passengers’ chances of surviving. They ultimately deserve the blame, not him.

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

I agree 100%! There wasn't too much he could've done, A Captain without a crew can't do much and a crew without a Captain are leaderless, With the majority of his crew having turned on him and stolen the boats there wasn't too much he could've done, Land was too far away. It's terrible that for the most part this tragedy has been forgotten.

[@TaterRaider]

The captain is ultimately resposible for the ship, receiving the accolades and blame alike. Training, morale, and crew disciple all ultimately fall on the captain's shoulders. He is to blame, although he alone is not.

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

@@TaterRaider He isn't to blame though, Some Men will just always be selfish and put themselves first and that's what they did, They abandoned their Captain and the passengers to flee themselves instead of trying to maintain order and get the boats launched, I will agree with you that the Captain usually is responsible for the ship if disaster strikes but not this time, The crew who cowardly stole the boats are 100% to blame for the loss of life.

[@TaterRaider]

@@FrederickTheAnon14W Full speed ahead in a fog. Everyone answers to the captain. The captain answers to God. Also recommend checking into maritime disasters and simple things like running aground, particularly naval history. The captain can be asleep in his/her stateroom and still be court martialed. Because the captain is responsible for the ship - no exceptions. USS Missouri comes to mind.

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

@@TaterRaider The ship was at full speed ahead in the fog because they were FORCED to, The whole entire Collins Line was forced to maintain that full-speed or lose their subsidiaries from influential people who were looking to see the Collins Line fail, And even after this disaster they were still forced to maintain that full-speed rule until the Collins Line went out of business 4 years later in 1858, If you watched the video you would know this.

[@lunaequinox7333]

Poor captain Luce, a rare example of an honorable seaman who still managed to be vilified by the press. I can only hope that he was one day able to find peace and that he has resumed his career in the afterlife. RIP to him and all the others lost in this disaster

[@drbadzer]

It’s fine, he got the justice he deserved. We are the people of the future to him, and we see the truth, and his name lives on as a hero. And for those who ran away? They will forever be forgotten as they deserve.

[@reckontonottobemoved]

You people love to put people in heaven and you don't know if he was in GOD IN ORDER TO GO TO HEAVES,POOR CAPTAIN,POOR JESUS NAILED ON THE CROSS

[@sabrinarosario6499]

​@@reckontonottobemovedwhat

[@zparkyy1800]

@@sabrinarosario6499 😂😂😂😂

[@klmaster4552]

@@reckontonottobemoved No, this man certainly deserves to be in heaven for his his incredibly heroic and selfless actions that most certainly do not go unnoticed by God.

[@bladudemovies]

That woman deciding the keep running the pump until her body failed her is one of the most heroic and badass things I’ve ever heard. Makes you think about all the unknown heroes of history.

[@tomm1109]

Anna Downer.

[@jabronisauce6833]

Never mind hero's of history the amount of history lost to us is a damn shame we think we have a good grasp but judging by how long we've been on this earth and nearly going extinct even god knows what's been lost but yeap there are a shit ton of great people that we will never know off or even the events.

[@blaquepearlzchocolatediamndz77]

RIGHT!! Talk about "GIRL POWER" This story alone let's ALL know females tend to be stronger than males. The men on that ship were sorry punk a$$ men anyway.

[@timewarpdrive77]

More of a man than the cowardly crew.

[@desimo147]

And the kid who kept firing the canon as well. Two real heroes amongst all the cowards.

[@davidbrent8031]

This story just destroys your faith in humanity. No matter how dreadful the sinkings of the Titanic, the Lusitania, etc were, you at least had a great deal of chivalry and selfless heroism from many of the passengers and crew on those ships. Sadly, it seems those qualities were in short supply aboard the SS Arctic… It’s no wonder her sinking has been forgotten to history; it shows our species at its very worst.

[@ultraloyalservant2felineov41]

Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi were on the ship.

[@tobiasnexus4391]

And even worse that their competition decided to celebrate the huge loss of life with a F***ing parade! How much more of a scumbag move could they do?

[@msprettypinkpanther6142]

I remember my grandparents took us on a cruise when I was 11 in 2001. We were on a princess ship. They conducted our lifeboat drill that first day and we were informed that the way the drills/actual situations are handled were inspired by the way some of the crew of the titanic conducted themselves and the loading of their lifeboats on the Titanic ❤️

[@TerrificLittleSunday]

@@msprettypinkpanther6142Sick.

[@killme5630]

Why lose faith at all? If there is good, there is evil. If there is despair, there is hope. The titanic and this are evidences of this

[@tidan4575]

Given that Captain Luce made reasonable decisions, put his passengers and crew first, and made every reasonable attempt to save them, and then getting most of the blame for the sinking thereafter, I can't imagine what his mind was going through. This is probably the only example I could find of a captain going down with his ship and not dying immediately.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

And the thing that saved his life took the life of his son. He really didn't deserve the slander he later got. I wouldn't have ever stepped foot on a ship again if I had been him.

[@DizzyFoShizzy]

I believe the captain of the Empress of Ireland survived going down with his ship. He was thrown off her into the water when she capsized, where he got on a lifeboat and spent the rest of the night saving people in the water.

[@euanmorris7835]

The captain of the Lusitania also survived, he was swept of the bridge wing.

[@thrillereighties8241]

What reasonable decisions??? The reasonable decision would have been to tell the politicians to STFU on HIS ship and that they would be travelling at a slower speed while sight was obstructed by fog.

[@vib3rations888]

​@@thrillereighties8241 actually that wasn't his decision to make... This is the downside of corporate shipping. It would be career ending for him. However, the thing that would have been wise and not career ending was probably to turn to starboard at collision course. If he followed protocol, then the momentum might have been reduced just enough that the damage was manageable

[@Angelique2716]

That the "full speed" policy was continued after this heart wrenching disaster is mind boggling

[@fishyinnadurag610]

And it's all because the politicians didn't like the company or something. Straight up corruption that cost many lives.

[@warlocc-paul]

At some point you really, really need to ignore politicians. They're a real problem since the beginning of time, turns out.

[@sl42525]

Typical though, isn't it? Anything to attain their objectives, damn anyone else's safety or welfare.

[@enviousgaming3250]

I hope those politicians get a nice welcoming warm stay in hell for the blood on their hands

[@NahuCommNS]

Politicians are the cancer of this world.

[@SilentReflection86]

This story is the epitome of "but wait, it gets worse"

[@oopsydoodles5794]

Sounds like my life story lol 😂

[@morgan4574]

Have you heard "Ask a Mortician" channel telling the story that inspired Moby Dick? So much cannibalism

[@Tina-si1gz]

I like her channel. She has one about Why JFK’s Casket Stayed Closed. Very interesting details following the assassination.

[@General5USA]

But wait ...This really happened in 1959. I was there... I met the son who was sickly at about the age if 15 years. Sounds more impressive if circa 1959. less impressive if known that the ship was set aground on the ice. Trying to attract more viewers for KZbin by changing the story eh?

[@beneddiected]

@@General5USA whut…

[@taliaa-444]

The true heroes were Captain Luce, Steward Holland, and Anna Downer. Captain Luce did everything he could, and Steward and Anna stood true to their words and stayed at their post until the very end. I believe they died heroes. It was truly such an unfortunate event and it is completely understandable that Captain Luce chose to never sail again.

[@Homeostasisis]

The level of survivor's guilt captain luce must have experienced is absolutely beyond me

[@dracorex426]

Especially since his salvation, the paddle box, straight-up annihilated his son.

[@advena996]

I know! The poor guy tried so hard and it seemed like nearly everyone else was sabotaging his efforts....

[@Ven-7xv]

Not to mention the people that stole a lifeboat and prioritised cigars and legroom over human lives. They deserved way worse survivors guilt though

[@cdfe3388]

I don’t think I could live with it.

[@MaskOfAgamemnon]

At least we can remember him and spread word of his heroism.

[@m.streicher8286]

Funny how the initially "doomed" ship survived just because it had watertight bulkheads and a crew that wasn't absolutely incompetent.

[@villagemagician1320]

Titanic took notes about that watertight bulkheads from the vesta. didn't always work so well, as we now know.

[@dabbinghitlersmemes1762]

@@villagemagician1320 The Titanic was, and even still would be by today's standards, a very tough ship. The trouble was that her damage was immense, a 300 foot long gash is doom for near every ship. It is a testament to the Titanic's seaworthiness that she stayed afloat after that for over two hours.

[@FrederickTheAnon14W]

@@villagemagician1320 Titanic also took note of the cowardice of Men and made sure to keep order to make sure the boat's weren't swamped by Men, However I have to say Lightoller took it a BIT too far, Not even allowing Men into the boats when there were no Women or children present to be loaded aboard, And as a result quite a few were just simply loaded half or more than half empty.

[@villagemagician1320]

@@FrederickTheAnon14W I am somewhat reluctant to agree with this. To my knowledge, only one or two boats (the first ones Lightoller loaded) were lowered with too few passengers. At this point many had great doubts about the seriousness of the situation. It looked to many that to be lowered into that little boat was infinitely more dangerous than the solid Titanic. So there was few people, including men, who were willing to get into the boat - at first. Soon thereafter it became clear that the ship was going to sink and then there wasn't the reluctance of many people (women, children, anybody) of getting in. These boats were filled to the brim, with some having a mere 2 inches of space between the side of the lifeboat and the ocean. There was another officer, Lowe I think his name was, who delayed the launch of some boats for an unknown reason despite Captain Smith saying explicitly to Lightoller to "put the women and children in the boats and lower away". This message was conveyed to Lowe but still he delayed. Who knows why. Never, that I know of, did Lightoller lower away half-full boats just because there were no women or children in the immediate area. Also, it should be noted that the time pressure was VERY real. And in fact not every lifeboat was able to be launched. They ran out of time. Lightoller was swept into the ocean whilst him and a few other men were readying one last lifeboat. In the end, the giant smokestack broke loose and that last lifeboat was missed just barely - with the giant wave flipping it upside down. This upside down lifeboat was Lightollers salvation, along with maybe a dozen others. Initially 18 were standing on it but 6 died before being rescued. There was no room on that slippery wet underside of the lifeboat and some fell into the water and never got back on.

[@gothysballroom]

@@dabbinghitlersmemes1762 Except it wasn't a 300 foot gash, but a series of badly-placed punctures and deformations along the forward hull.

[@juliadagnall5816]

A book I read about the sinking of the Arctic pointed out that there was a lot of public shame about the selfishness of the crew because just two years prior a British ship called the Birkenhead had struck a rock and sunk off the coast of Africa, but the soldiers and crew on board had chosen to go down with the ship rather than risk overwhelming the women and children who had been loaded into the ship’s lifeboats. The practice of putting women and children (or in other words the most vulnerable) into the lifeboats first came to be known as a Birkenhead drill.

[@rightsarentpolitical]

The fact every woman and child died is horrifying; that these men gave defense of "well the captain was incompetent and an asshole" and thought that absolved them of leaving kids to die and pushing away survivors as they left with room to spare in the only life boats is chilling.

[@badcornflakes6374]

Then the tragedy of the SS Atlantic evened things out killing all woman and children aboard and leaving only the men.

[@thelegittaco974]

@@badcornflakes6374 seriously?? Holy hell…

[@rabidrabbitshuggers]

Good. They deserved shame. They still deserve it. I hope they spend every night in Hell drowning over and over.

[@justforever96]

No, it didn't. "The Birkenhead Drill" was coined by Kipling in a poem about the incident and it refers to the soldiers on board forming into ranks in deck and remaining there while the women and children were placed into the lifeboats. That is what they call a drill in military terms. The officers wanted to prevent a panic, and the men stayed under discipline until the boats were away, and then they figured there was no escape anyway, so they just stayed in their ranks and waited while the ship sunk under them. I have never heard the general practice of women and children first called "The Birkenhead Drill", that misses the entire point of them meeting their deaths bravely standing in ranks instead of panicking. And I am pretty sure the practice predates that anyway, so no, they don't call it that, they didn't do it first, and that wasn't what they did.

[@zimmerman1031]

Being fortunate enough to be a father, hearing the captain's son's death teared me up a bit. Survives so much, only to be killed in a freakish way.

[@tidan4575]

The captain's son was already suffering from an illness before the ship sank, and likely wouldn't have survived before rescue arrived anyway.

[@TransDrummer1312]

@@tidan4575still... that paddlebox killed him before he even had a chance. It's horrific.

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

@@tidan4575still, he didn’t deserve to die like that. He could’ve at least had the comfort of his father’s arms in his last moments, but he was stolen even that. Regardless, none of that would even have had to happen if those horrifically evil monsters walking in the skins of men hadn’t stolen the lifeboats from women and children.

[@WorldZeroGuide]

@@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBroCompletely true. Although the crew which were men were very cowardly in this situation, I’m glad that atleast some of the male PASSENGERS actually were gentlemen. The crew was the main problem here

[@NoPulseForRussians]

The woman manning the pump, who went down with the ship, was more courageous and more of an able seaman than any of the ships crew, save for the Captain and the gunnersmate who fired the signals cannon. That is sad.

[@chndlr18]

Yea that sounds good on a grave stone and all, but you don't know a damn thing about that woman. For all you know she got off on killing babies.

[@advena996]

I know! That was the saddest part!

[@intechio9013]

i believe some crew members stayed it wasnt only those 2

[@blondbraid7986]

Indeed, that's why I think that people should NEVER count on male chivalry in any dire situation, because while there were good men on board, they were outnumbered by the bad ones by far, and had most of their valiant efforts destroyed by them. Meanwhile, I don't see a single mention of any of the women attacking people, only going on lifeboats they were let on rather than highjacking them, and it seems nearly all of the women either worked hard keeping the ship safe like the woman on the pump, tried saving their children, or passively prayed without hurting anyone.

[@nckojita]

@@blondbraid7986it’s typical of shipwreck disasters sadly, the whole women and children first bullshit is a complete and utter myth. the only reason it happened a couple times was bc the captain and crew would literally enforce it sometimes at gunpoint… just goes to show how evil and selfish most men are, they would drag even their own wives and children out of lifeboats to take their place. disgusting. “male chivalry” is made up tbh

[@northerncaptain855]

What a horrifying story. I’m a recently retired sea captain after nearly 50 years going to sea. The sea remains a dangerous place and ships are still lost. Thank you for telling this story.

[@sallyskellington3024]

Do you have any stories to tell? Maybe you should consider it? Js

[@lucylovic]

Yes. I had near experiences with sharks

[@SCharlesDennicon]

I hope most ship crews aren't as freaking scary as the Arctic's.

[@peeron6829]

@@SCharlesDennicon scary idk but they were assholes haha

[@yourmother2779]

if i may ask, how did you get to be a sea captain? were you in the navy or a similar field that helped you transition in? nowadays, is it something that requires a degree or is it more reliant on experience?

[@barkspawn1940]

It's terrifying how quickly people can abandon an image of civility in extreme situation. Just imagine them dining in fine clothes and bowing their hats one minute and tearing each other apart the next

[@sorrenblitz805]

That's because Civility is an illusion. We force the illusion to be prevalent but when the chaos of Nature overtakes that illusion, all we are are animals again.

[@cherimolina2121]

Oh they are still like that...believe me.

[@ChibiViolin]

The poor will eat the rich when given the opportunity.

[@eirschu8973]

@Stigmatogaster and will be correct to do so. The fact that 90% of the capital is in 1% of population's hands is really not ok and is a problem.

[@ChibiViolin]

@@eirschu8973 So the people on the ship did nothing wrong?

[@alexv3375]

Honestly, I'd say this is one of the most horrifying shipwreck stories I've ever heard. From start to finish, it's essentially a testament to the very worst of human nature.

[@tylery7881]

Captain Luce deserves to be remembered as a hero who did everything he could to save as many people on board the Arctic, despite his crew turning on him.

[@Ruiluth]

This needs to be made into a movie. People need to be reminded what honor is and what happens when you abandon it.

[@Annie.747]

@ Steven Spielberg

[@dungeonmaster6292]

​@@Annie.747Spielberg raped a 12 year old who died from her injuries. Heather O'Rourke on the set of Poltergeist

[@mikethebike2456]

🛵 Another horror movie.

[@beezyb42011]

Agreed

[@gamleole9568]

We are only allowed to watch some politically correct garbage and cross breeding propaganda. Good movies hardly make it in the theaters.

[@howtosober]

Poor Captain Luce. My God, how unlucky to get the most sociopathic, selfish crew possible. What an unnecessary tragedy.

[@zanedietlin7645]

Never underestimate humanity. HMS Bounty much?

[@LateNightCable]

And even more rotten passengers, after that third ‘camp’ decided that raping, pillaging, and getting drunk would be the best way to spend the end of their lives.

[@thrillereighties8241]

Really? Poor Captain Luce who sold out his own crew and everyone else when he abandoned sound judgement and chose to listen to the politicians to travel at speed in that weather?? Are you all blind? Yes, he most likely would have lost his job for ignoring them but the disaster would have been avoided and all those lives would have been spared. He caved under pressure and relinquished his rank as Captain of the ship by listening to the politicians.

[@nick6253]

​@@LateNightCable Everyone likes to think they're honorable until they're put in these situations, and nobody is exempt from that fact. Great lesson to learn from terrible actions.

[@BlueRupees]

@@LateNightCableI thought when they said “stole alcohol” that it was going to be just some people deciding to get drunk and go out that way and I figured that wasn’t bad, but nope. It got worse.

[@casonfisher9364]

The fact that he says not a single women or child survived is horrible and shows just how significant the toll of the actions of those selfish men were.

[@Boltybleu1978]

@@spventures9395exactly. So had the men not been selfish and helped instead of hurt it would’ve made all the difference for those women and kids.

[@Boltybleu1978]

@@spventures9395 did we watch the same video?!!! How about not storming the lifeboats??? Not r*ping and literally k*lling women?!! How is any of that survival or actions brought on by fear? Get your head checked.

[@Boltybleu1978]

@@spventures9395 btw, since you didn’t watch the video I’ll add that they stormed the life boats before they were ready and wielded axes at those prepping the boats. Just cowardice and evil on part of those ‘men’. Look at the lady that stuck to her post until the end, the young boy.

[@mikethebike2456]

​@@Boltybleu1978🛵 Rape sucks but it's still ok to write the word.

[@Boltybleu1978]

@@mikethebike2456 no, KZbin blocks comments with certain words from being seen. Just tryna get my comment out there

[@cristianroth8524]

This story needs a movie. It gives the same sense of isolation and hopelessness as Stephen King's "The Mist", but the fact that this is a real event cranks all the feelings up to 11.

[@johnsmith7676]

NOTHING "needs a movie". Hollywood is run by the worst liars and deviants on Earth. You would do well to steer entirely clear of ALL the poisons they produce.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

I agree. Would be grim Watching.

[@zacharytracy3797]

Grim and very necessary. Might have to wait until “1899” loses its relevance.

[@PatMcDonald41]

As a film it would lack the noble heroism of the Titanic. As far as I know the British seamen of the Titanic behaved well.

[@ihateasthetics]

@@PatMcDonald41 no shit😐

[@docilecatfish1370]

Don’t forget to pour one out for fourth officer Francis Dorian who gave his life defending the last life boat.

[@Daniel_Huffman]

Fortunately, Fourth Officer Dorian survived, though only barely. When the mob started to rush his lifeboat, Dorian was forced to cut his boat loose to prevent it from becoming overloaded, while the raft scraped against the _Arctic's_ hull, breaking off part of it and spilling its occupants into the Atlantic. I kind of feel bad for Dorian. He definitely would have stayed alongside the ship longer had there been better discipline among the crew, and the raft probably would have been properly completed and thus able to save more lives. The only survivor on the raft was a crewman named Peter McCabe, a waiter on his first transatlantic voyage. From what I can tell, he didn’t force his way onto the raft: He had initially sought refuge on a door, but abandoned it in favor of the raft. He counted 76 people either on the raft or clinging to its side in the water, four of whom were women. He later recalled that he thought himself within ten minutes of death when he was rescued by the _Huron._

[@lunaequinox7333]

*Raises glass of lemonade* I’m not old enough to drink yet so this will have to do

[@Daniel_Huffman]

@@lunaequinox7333 Neither am I, and I prefer lemonade to alcohol. (It was for my first communion and the taste turned me away from drinking)

[@advena996]

@@Daniel_Huffman you're not missing much lol. I am of drinking age, but have found that alcohol is grossly over rated. 😁. Lemonade is far superior!

[@MyNameHere101]

Not to mention the woman who was bleeding out through her hands but continued using them to keep the pumps running.

[@ShadowCatGambit]

I admire the men and women who did not abandon their captain or their ship. Unquestionable honor.

[@thrillereighties8241]

Funny, he abandoned them when he chose to listen to the politicians.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

I damn the drunken cowards that attempted to rape them.

[@peter_d]

No women. Only men. Women were considered bad luck at sea back then

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@@peter_d Then why were ships given female names?

[@joblessmf420]

​@@peter_dYou have to be completely brain dead if you seriously believe that women never traveled as passengers on ships back then.

[@DanielSmith-zv9yc]

That’s one of the saddest story’s I have ever heard. Captain Luce was an incredible man

[@rockymims8183]

Hearing about the captain holding his son and losing him in the water only to witness him be killed as he desperately tried to reach him one last time brought me to tears thinking of my own sons

[@johnyoutuber9781]

And then the thing that killed him was what he himself clung to to survive.

[@sigmawarrior.fokeryou]

Me too. We're so fragile as human being, to protect our children of some bigger things...

[@jimbobbyrnes]

you know i don't want to be that guy but you risk their lives every time you let them enter any vehicle. just a drive to school is potentially deadly. but just like back then people choose to either accept the risks or don't even think about the risks and just continue to risk their lives for the small benefit of education or travel. the sad thing is if any kids actually knew the horrors of a car crash they would probably fight with their parents to stay home. but we don't let them make that decision because we choose to risk their lives for what we believe is important and not them.

[@johnyoutuber9781]

@@jimbobbyrnes but the problem is, it shouldn't even be a risk at all. Over here in Europe, this risk nearly doesn't exist.

[@jimbobbyrnes]

@@johnyoutuber9781 Dying at sea on a ship the size of the SS Arctic is a risk that nearly does not exist either. Especially since we know that its dangerous and so naturally humans avoid the big scary sea and are deeply afraid of it.

[@TheBrandon40500]

My hat is off to the brave young gentleman that never abandoned his post manning the emergency signals until his death. The bravest man on the ship by far and worthy of a statue in his honor!

[@gracesemenzato8743]

And that woman that remained doing her job with bloody hands while the boat was sinking.

[@michealtaylor7745]

Shouldn't need a statue just to stay, goodby. Really, just want anyone who approves of his lifestyle is forward. That's the way of the world?

[@martinj.hammersmith8512]

Maybe the other men were really trans women?

[@jimj2683]

I would kill everyone else on the ship if it meant I had a 10% extra survival chance.

[@martinclark8162]

As a Brit native living in Sydney I to salute that same young gentleman. Honour and respect from Australia.

[@desimo147]

For those who think that the moral values of society have collapsed, let this story remind you that evil and wickedness have been around for a long, long time. It's nothing new.

[@matthewanderson2464]

That is simultaneously reassuring and disheartening.

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

But notice how the moral values of society collapses when the societal structure collapses. If we don't stick to our most fundamental values and rules, everything will fall into a deathspiral of malevolence, despair and impulsiveness. Societal imbalance breeds chaos, and chaos awakens the evil sides in people. Societies have collapsed before you know, and the aftermath is always cataclysmic.

[@jonbongjovi1869]

the problem is humans, humans, humans. they have always been the ROOT OF ALL EVIL. they will always be the root of all evil. young or old. male or female. rich or poor. black or white. gay or straight. THE PROBLEM IS HUMANS. Bright side: we COULD solve this overnight, but no one wants to! ("the only thing humans hate more than the status quo is CHANGE") EX: PEER PRESSURE is more powerful than HUMAN NATURE.

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

@@jonbongjovi1869 If humans are the root of all evil, then they are also the root of all good, because good can not exist without evil.

[@mfallen6894]

@@ollikoskiniemi6221 Very, very true. That dichotomy is quite striking with this sinking! Incredible acts of selflessness occurring right beside some of the most selfish and sadistic. We're a very strange species

[@AngeloPerfili]

As a first time viewer, I am blown away at the detail and incredible due diligence it took to bring this story to life. Most amazing thing I have seen here lately..

[@travisharrington9897]

I think one of the most horrific details was that some of the casualties from the Vista got trapped in the paddlewheel and literally got torn to pieces right in front of everyones eyes. Horrible

[@katrinabeeker4543]

I know, must of been terrifying for them ☹️

[@blondbraid7986]

It must certainly have been the most gruesome sight, but I still find the violence and selfishness the men onboard inflicted on their fellow humans to be more terrifying.

[@astelli6181]

@@blondbraid7986seriously, women and children watching grown men trying to rape them.

[@drdrew4457]

too bad the arctic was still in fullspeed ahead mode

[@Eustes]

@@drdrew4457😂

[@Hellzangel115]

Its amazing how you can have a whole ocean and still crash into each other due to human error

[@na3rial]

It's because even with the whole ocean, only some parts are navigable, known, or have currents that will work in the favor of the boat

[@CNYKnifeNut]

@@na3rial Exactly. It's like saying "How did you hit each other, you have the entire United States?" when two cars hit each other on I90. Really ignorant comment.

[@evonne315]

Its the same in the air.

[@philliphall5198]

Same route it can happen easily

[@StoutProper]

Americans make terrible drivers, they never look where their going and vote for the worst politicians

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

The captain did nothing wrong, the mutiny of his crew was just completely out of his control, too bad the press said otherwise.

[@stuartlee6622]

Democrats. Don't trust lefty media!

[@dekuthetechpriestoflondon6791]

I must fully agree with you.

[@djsatane]

well, in fog and far away from any land or help he should of choose safety first and slow the ship down, easily could of have his officer log it as engine paddle wheel problem.

[@nigelmurphy6761]

Absolutely agreed.

[@coltc5360]

@@djsatane that’s easy to suggest, but he was obviously a man of integrity who wouldn’t put lies in the ship’s log. If I had to guess, you had an ancestor amongst the cowardly crew members of the Arctic.

[@Ironbattlemace]

This just reinforces my deep respect of the sailors and captains that stick to the customs and tend to put passengers first because passengers doesn't have even a fleeting chance to survive a sinking ship.

[@Azurie-e9s]

tough luck lol

[@ayyKatx]

This video itself serves as a memorial to those who lost their lives that day and those who did everything they could to save others. Thank you for making this and keeping their memories alive today.

[@VeganV5912]

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[@holgerdanske8935]

Holger Danske Holger Danske 1 second ago The Clown doing the story, has no idea, about Port & Starboard ! So the helmsman was ordered to turn RIGHT.......which meant LEFT.........??????? The narrator, does not know what the heck he is talking about !

[@VeganV5912]

@@holgerdanske8935 Eating animaIs is COVlD and Monkeypox.. 😒🦠🥓🍳🍔🍣🍗🥩🌭🍤🍕🍖. You’re not supposed to eat animaIs and their secretions. No fibre if you eat animIls and cheese and milk etc !!!! We’ve got long long guts. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. Moving left and right |-_| . We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, and get blocked arteries eating animals fat deposits clog the arteries. Cancer high blood pressure diabetes strokes. 51% death rate !!! That is extremely high for a 5 minute burger etc !!!! Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it. Peer review science !!!! GoriIlas are herbivores. They never ever eat animals. And they are huge ✅❤️💪🦍. 98.6% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild !!!! COVlD-19, Plant based diet, they had a 73% lower risk, then meat eaters. Peer reviewed science. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2qngWZ3lrl2apo ...

[@TeamCGS2005]

Yeah apart from the rapists and vile passengers who I hope are in hell.

[@SoonerDan77]

This is one of the worst disasters at sea that I have ever heard. While many crews before and since have abandoned their passengers, this crew is the worst I've heard of. Pitifully few of them actually cared about their passengers and most of those that did paid with their lives. They are heroes and deserve to be remembered as such. Thanks Tom for giving these heroes the honor they deserve.

[@LordWyatt]

It’s disgusting to see only a handful of loyal Crewmen, including the fucking Captain😤 They deserved better, and the cowards deserve nothing but contempt

[@silverXnoise]

Ever heard of the S Korean ferry Sewol?

[@LathropLdST]

@@silverXnoise I have, what about it?

[@silverXnoise]

@@LathropLdST ?? Do you really need someone to connect the dots for you?

[@silverXnoise]

@@LathropLdST I thought it was a cute name for a ferry boat and just wanted to tell everyone about it. No relevance to shameful actions in relation to maritime disasters whatsoever, my apologies for muddying the discussion with such trite distractions.

[@davido1503]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, sharks show up! This is like a horror movie.

[@JackWilkos]

Spoiler

[@Cristatachad]

...and I thought the drunken rapist crew was going to be the worst part of the story.

[@ItCantRainAllTheTime1988]

⁠@@JackWilkosWhat else do you expect to find in the comments?

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Like a predecessor to the indianopolis massacre

[@dbspecials1200]

Now I know that that signalman stayed at his post, just as he wanted us to know it. There's no substitute for a professional that stays cool under pressure. if some vessels were close enough, his efforts surely would have made the difference.

[@jasonanderson4915]

A true man.

[@irena4545]

And the lady who stayed at the pump...

[@cleverlyblonde]

A true woman.

[@honeybie170]

When I saw "The Most Horrifically Shameful Sinking," I thought of a few classic reasons other maritime disasters were shameful. Negligence, incompetence, disregard for safety, inadequate resources, etc. I never once thought a mutinous crew of cruel, selfish men (in addition to some creul, selfish passengers). While this is certainly "the most shameful sinking" I've ever heard about, it also feels like a major understatement. Shameful does not even begin to describe this tragedy. This was a real horror story that was brushed under the rug so that none of the mutinous crew members or corrupt politicians were held accountable for this needlessly brutual tragedy.

[@my9thaccount140]

There is no justice in this world.

[@Jessica-el3dc]

Your absolutely right. That is why we can never trust politicians. In every time period they are evil liars covering up massive disasters!

[@GreenOliveBranch]

That’s why I’m watching Andrea Doris’s sinking after this… so shameful

[@fluuufffffy1514]

Yeah seriously. 'Ship's going down, time to rape!' what the actual f??

[@sm0keyMcP0t420]

Oh my god. Everything about this from beginning to end is like a horror movie. From the crash to the mutiny then sharks attacking survivors-jeeze, how hasn't there been a movies made about this.

[@trafficjon400]

Depression is bad enough with truth and some one knows it is why. what eventually do you think people would continue living with this type of bullshit just to feed the so called comfort of ones home not realizing enough how depression creeps in to a human. unless they are freekishly evil and like this sort of thing for entertainment. Though its possible we all are guilty some times of Possible entertaining propaganda.

[@larrybradley3921]

I think because it's too depressing. There's no silver lining.

[@curiouser-and-curiouser]

Not sure where these other 2 are coming from, I guess they're unaware of the many movies that were inspired by the tragedy of real people & Hollywood doesn't give a damn about anybody's depression. I think maybe those powerful people have powerful descendants & a movie would cause curious individuals to start turning over stones. I don't know, I'm sure there's lots of things being kept from us.

[@trafficjon400]

@@curiouser-and-curiouser What good is it going to do your worrie about what they have been keeping from us well be for for we were even born? besides this is not ment for Searchers looking in areas where they were told it was put in the bottom tittle sections of all that this is Simply for Entertainment purposes only? like a lot of Britannica Based . but Entertainment means not necessarily true. Like the Global warming only half believe its true but waiting restless with more evidence. Theory or Conspiracy theory turned out later True.

[@trafficjon400]

@@larrybradley3921 Yes but some don't see that but rather make thier own decisions on how professionals over 100 years should operate the Studios.

[@gibshredcamel]

Videos like this make me realize why i only binge your channel once per year. Good grief that was grim

[@scottishjedi1522]

It’s hearing stories like this that make you appreciate how calm and professional the Titanic’s crew were during its sinking.

[@kueller917]

This was similar to my thoughts after too. Titanic is remembered largely cause of man's hubris in the face of nature and the classism of the time, but there's a ton of little stories that convey people doing good in the face of disaster. If there was a movie about this one I'd be left feeling so bitter about humanity.

[@mjleger4555]

It is incredible to me, to think that the band just kept playing "Nearer My God to Thee" as the Titanic was sinking! There weren't enough lifeboats and they probably knew that. Still, that they didn't panic and kept playing is so sad, yet it shows how very brave some of them were (and were not also as some of the crew were the first ones in the lifeboats!) They had over two hours (2 hrs, 40 mins), and some lifeboats weren't even full) I guess they really believed that the Titanic was unsinkable. A terrible tragedy for all.

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

They weren't properly trained like they should have been on the maiden voyage, but they were honorable and very selfless for their time. The main reasons they didn't pick up the people in the water was the belief that the lifeboats would be sucked down with the ship, or that they would be swamped and overturned by the giant crowds of desperate freezing passengers.

[@Matthew-qc1xz]

I don't agree. Whenever there's a sinking ship with not enough life boats, self preservation will always win. The Titanic was no different.

[@mjleger4555]

@@Matthew-qc1xz So wrong! Many people died in the very cold water. others drowned, but the many could NOT withstand the very cold water temps until rescue arrived and died hanging onto wreckage and slipped away into the water.! "Self-preservation will NOT win when the elements and other intolerable situations occur and make survival nearly impossible. Do you really think that people who have died inevitably in a aircraft crash didn't have plenty of self-preservation intent? Didn't matter. Some people in deadly air crashes had to be identified by the DNA in the pulp of a tooth or bone because there was NO intact body part where they could be identified, such as fingerprints, etc. because at 600 mph crashing into the ground from perhaps 31,000' altitude, there is little left of the aircraft or the people to even identify. Only due to modern technological advances can we use DNA for identity now!

[@Northicex]

"Let the world know that one man stood by his post." He was a man at the age of 22, towering over children in adult bodies that surrounded him. I must admit at this part I wept. (Edit for accuracy)

[@silasruedin9566]

Once again, the world will know through the Internet.

[@CPorter]

From my experience looking into this time--in journalism--I feel that this quote is entirely fictitious, as it seems way too good to be true. Simple yellow journalism.

[@darabennett4316]

I mustof missed the part saying he was 12,...Wow. Just,...Wow.

[@ArcFixer]

@@CPorter Your feelings are a piss poor reason to disparage what could well be true. The words were spoken to the Captain who survived to tell the story. It would profit him nothing to lie about it. Off with you and your dark soul, vermin.

[@AndyHappyGuy]

Why did he have to die while the dicks like Baalham and the Cheif Engineer had to survive. Same with the steward manning the pumps too.

[@LauraMLockard]

I had a relative who was lost on the Arctic - Stephen Culmer. He was my great great great grandfather's brother, returning to the US after visiting relatives in England. Thank you for making this video.

[@AdoMatic-dj6wp]

May Allah bless him and forgive him his sins. Allah the lord of all worlds forgives those who died at sea La hawla walw quwwata illah billaah

[@dylanmooney3221]

how would you know this... thats like saying you had a cousin with Shackleton

[@JK360noscope]

​@@dylanmooney3221 No, that was my great great great uncle, silly! How could you mix that up?!

[@JL3Wind]

@Dylan Mooney? Have you ever done genealogy? The 1800s are no problem to research at all, unless the specific archives you’re searching for have burned up at some point or anything like that. Most of the Western world, often through their different churches, had begun keeping meticulous track of births, marriages, deaths at this point in time.

[@gojewla]

Wow, lots of “greats” in front of that! Cudos to you, for keeping that good track of your family history.

[@birdwife589]

i’ve never heard such a heartbreaking shipwreck story

[@d_zamb573]

This is just horrifying. I’d never heard this story before. As a life long Titanic fan, this disaster made me appreciate just how well Titanic’s crew really did.

[@gemnifan6045]

Yes most historians say this is why Titanic is so well know but unfortunately this kind of selfishness is much more common in ship sinkings

[@brandonsavitski]

In December 1987, more than 4,300 people died in the world's worst peacetime maritime disaster after the ferry Dona Paz sank after colliding with a fuel tanker.

[@SergeantExtreme]

@@brandonsavitski Thanks Wikipedia. 🙂

[@ChefPoirotProductions1]

Why does the Titanic movie portray the crew as villains?

[@Tempusverum]

@@ChefPoirotProductions1 Titanic’s crew “Villains”? First I’ve heard of that take in the film. Mostly it’s the rich dude and his jockey

[@marlontellez7732]

The passengers were more organized and willing to help the Captain than the crew? That is an interesting irony, given they were trained in the lifesaving equipment, and I must say this gave me chills so see that the crew would ignore the passengers completely and that Washington D.C. politicians would try to keep themselves “clean” of the disaster when they are responsible for bad policy.

[@patrickmchose7472]

US Politicians staying "clean" when they were responsible for bad policy? This is par for the course.

[@chabelita098]

wow .. im reading this comment today in 2022, 2 days after the uvalde tragedy.. seeing the disgusting similarities, my god this system is so beyond repair

[@EustaH]

Probably that was not caused by the passengers being so noble as opposed to the crew. First - they were not seamen, so abandoning ship on their own wouldn't had save them - and secondly - all those women and children were their families - so obviously saving them was more important to those men, than to the crew.

[@workingguy-OU812]

Perhaps it was an Italian crew?

[@BoleDaPole]

Yup, sounds like the republican party. I swear we'd be so screwed if the democrats didn't keep them honest.

[@257796]

"As long as my arms work, I'm staying." That lady was hard as nails. The guy at the signal cannon had iron resolve as well. But what she said is just gangster

[@Smoothoperator65]

Actually the gangsters we're raping and pillaging,while the warriors fought for life!! But I see your point!

[@michelleoh2580]

O

[@justlucky8254]

@@TonyBustaroni just another of the massive list of words used to describe something completely different than their true definition. Lately we've added words like man and woman to that list. Just like sick is awesome, bad is good, wicked is impressive, etc.

[@ariesfiresoul]

@@TonyBustaroni wow it’s almost like human language continually evolves and these magical things called colloquialisms exist!

[@planetcaravan2925]

@@TonyBustaroni Say good nite

[@redfoxse7en52]

Those poor children. I swear, kids always get dealt the worst hand in moments like this. No way, as a man, could I flee and worry only about myself if there were kids that could possibly lose their lives.

[@alexe.garciacruz4389]

Agreed

[@jessicahitchens6926]

The Estonia disaster/cover up in the Baltic in 1994 is unbelievable. I'd say the SS Atlantic/Estonia/Wilhem Gustev in 1945 are the worst. I think nearly 15 thousand were murdered on the Wilhelm fleeing the Soviets.

[@kaka3661able]

Damn right Poor children God protect us men from cowardice

[@Mypenisissmallbut]

I could easilyyyy they just crotch goblins

[@letsdothis9063]

I'm right there with you.

[@austinreed5805]

This is such an absolute catastrophe. The mutiny and brutality of the sinking is one that is rivaled by none. Rest In Peace to the innocent souls lost in the sinking and to the captain who bravely fought to the end to save his passengers.

[@philippetremblay906]

Unfortunately, other revolting sea disasters happened. The sinking of the VOC indiaman Batavia off the coast of Australia in the 17th century showed the depths of cruelty and sadism us humans are capable against our own kind.

[@SergeantExtreme]

@@philippetremblay906 Now THAT was probably the worst one in all of history.

[@villagemagician1320]

Crewmen & perhaps passengers alike getting hammered and raping or having sex towards the end.... jeez, the decks all sticky & slippery with cum & sweat, that couldn't have helped those passengers who were indeed trying to save themselves and their children. So sad. :(

[@benstrong4497]

Jesus Christ, that was a terrible tragedy. I kept thinking it couldn't get any worse, and then it did. Thank you for telling their story.

[@mattjack3983]

Damn..this was absolutely a HORRIFIC story. This is a perfect example of how quickly panic & cowardice can spread. And a testament to how important it is to have strong leadership not just at the very top with the Captain, but amongst the crew as well.

[@ilzee_vk]

It's a perfect example of the shameful greed of companies that did not put enough boats on their ships. Even with perfect discipline people would have died due to limited number of seats. The owners of the ship killed them and were solely responsible for the ensuing panic.

[@glo3139]

Such a terrible disaster, yet it was told here, with respect, knowledge and compassion. It’s a story that I had never heard about before, and although, I personally, have never been brave enough to even attempt boarding a cruise ship, out of fear of the dangers of the sea, I was glued to my screen with interest and curiosity. Excellent story telling.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

To think all this horror could have been avoided if some spiteful politicians hadn't insisted that these ships always go at full speed regardless of how unsafe it was.

[@ligametis]

This is what "work smarter" does. Usually it involves cutting corners and seeking goals or profit in an easiest and fastest way.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@ligametis N...No. Work Smarter, Not Harder is about finding clever ways to reduce the labor needed while getting the exact same result. Cutting corners is different and bad. The political mandate seemed to be at least on its surface insistent on making sure the mail was delivered quickly, but the sheer disregard for safety and how rigidly it was enforced makes me think it was intended to kill the Collins line from the start. Someone in power wanted this line to die.

[@twentysecondcenturywoman]

Politicians most of the time are uneducated and evil.

[@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798]

Gee...just think .....this had a billion to one chance of happining..!

[@Hat6000]

Not much has changed. Insist everyone get the experimental jab no matter how much evidence there was that it was unsafe. I'm sure I could find many other examples of unrealistic politically and selfishly motivated policies.

[@uggkitsune]

im so happy that Luce’s name was sorta cleared. If i lost as much as he did. survived. and having to live with that, going home to my wife without our child, as one of the VERY few survivors. my god.

[@eswing2153]

Captain Loose.

[@jasonanderson4915]

May have not made perfect decisions but he at least made his best effort with a clean heart

[@AliciaGuitar]

@@eswing2153 what is the point of commenting "captain loose" under people's comments? Is it supposed to be some sort of insult?

[@Nerobyrne]

He acted valiantly in the end, but it was all his fault. If he had adhered to the standards of passing on the right, this could have all been avoided. Probably. Either way though, he might have been a fool, but an honorable one.

[@kyleheins]

@@Nerobyrne it was the bridge officer who chose tye wrong turn, capatain luce was below decks at the time.

[@ripwednesdayadams]

This is truly one of the most heartbreaking and horrific sinking stories that I have ever heard. What a nightmare. It’s sad because in many of these sinking stories, those who work together seem to have more survivors.

[@evaphillips2102]

Isn’t it amazing how that works

[@advena996]

Right? I've never been more perversely satisfied to hear that one of the commandeered lifeboats "was never seen again". Spiteful I know, but it's just infuriating how horrible some of these people were....

[@ninavandenabbeele9667]

It always brakes my heart to hear rescue boats being send of with almost no people inside . Because it's one thing to try to safe your own life. Even though it's not the most noble thing it's understandable . But it's another thing to absolutely refuse to help anyone else.

[@donnabrowne5307]

Terrific telling of a gripping and tragic story. Excellent presentation, writing, and narration.

[@lukebaskin6924]

My great-great-great-great grandfather, David Fairweather Mustard, was a casualty of this disaster. He was returning to the United States after visiting his mother in Scotland.

[@DrAuthorite1]

i am sorry for your (late) loss.

[@gabagoobrotha]

Same happened to my great great uncle Johnny Henry Ketchupson 😔

[@pauldinardo912]

David Mustard? Related to Joey Mayonnaise??

[@lacos3213]

@@pauldinardo912 😂

[@pauldinardo912]

@Hal Colombo 😆

[@RED-cy7ig]

Years ago I read the book, "The Sea Shall Embrace them" about this disaster. This episode really covered this disaster well. I remember getting so angry at the crew and how no one was brought to justice for this.

[@Ever_2008_ARG]

They say that all stories have good endings, but in fact, it's only most

[@AutoGamerZ_]

@@Ever_2008_ARG I do think in a way there was at least a bittersweet ending to the story, it just wasn't about the SS Arctic: The Vesta made it to port with most of its passengers and crew despite the horror it gone through, and despite the fact it had been in a collission that could've very well have sunk the ship had it or the events that followed happened even slightly differently, *and* despite the fact that collission would've doomed almost every other ship of that size at the time. Beyond those that died in the rescue boat (except the one person that survived and then also survived the horrors of the SS Arctic), and the handful that died on the part of the ship that got sheared off, everyone survived on there.

[@davepowell7168]

@Superfly29rr With unlimited alcohol who knows..Some sailors were not temperate men

[@davepowell7168]

@@Ever_2008_ARG Whoever was short-sighted enough to suggest that all stories might possibly have 'good endings' ..😁..😎

[@Senkino5o]

They have all been brought to justice by today.

[@bobbyo4955]

This makes the Titanic look like a great success

[@harrisonkarn2078]

The only "wrong" choice the Titanic's crew made was launching half full lifeboats. However, this was only done because they thought the ship would sink slow enough to ferry all of the passengers onto the Californian.

[@evil1by1]

People forget that things like this were a contributing factor to the events that played out there. Women and children first was certainly not the norm and they were usually the bulk of the casualties. The Titanic and her people were products of their era.

[@sorrenblitz805]

@@harrisonkarn2078 they also made the mistake of thinking the Californian was moving towards them to help it wasn't. Also a lot of the lifeboats launched half full not because of crew but because the passengers themselves were being stubborn, preferring to wait for rescue aboard the big sturdy ship with lights as opposed to the tiny deathtrap lifeboats in the dark.

[@vittoriomandelli1309]

@@harrisonkarn2078 No, not at all. Lightoller the coward kept launching lifeboats half empty even when it was clear that the ship was going to sink in a short time and no one would pick them up for many hours at least. And the cowards made no attempts to row back to rescue the men in the water, except a couple of them. Shame on them all.

[@sorrenblitz805]

@@vittoriomandelli1309 right they should've totally rowed their tiny boats into a crowd of roughly 1200 panicking people in the water so that those people can swarm the boats and sink them too and then everyone dies. Solid plan dude.

[@ffhorrorfan9722]

This is THE single most tragic story I have EVER heard. Hard to believe it's real!

[@vulpesinculta3238]

The cowardice and selfishness in this story aren't surprising to me; they were the default attitude for most of naval history. But the sadism - the rape in particular - does surprise me. It would have served no practical purpose, and may actually have lowered the chance of the perpetrator surviving, since it could cause violent reprisals against him by the other men on board.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

I was gonna say that the most dangerous thing about this were the people.

[@briancrawford8751]

@@villagemagician1320 Well, you shouldn't have been "Just sayin" what you just said. "Meh, maybe a lady too," implying that a woman may have had an orgasm during rape is inexcusable. I swear, anything preceding "Just sayin" online and IRL is garbage.

[@ukeyaoitrash2618]

@@briancrawford8751 I think they meant that a woman might also have had some consensual sex, or maybe that a woman might have also raped some hot young guy ... not that the women enjoyed being raped... just sayin (:P).

[@wenthulk8439]

The rape doesn’t surprise me

[@tula1433]

@@briancrawford8751 I think what the person meant was that perhaps couples or rowdy/drunken women on board maybe had that same attitude of “we’re going to die anyway so go out with a bang” ..either that or the person who commented didn’t think their comment through before posting.

[@polarberri]

I feel physically ill. How people could act so selfishly and cowardly I cannot understand. Especially when they didn't even pull people up while they were already escaping! The poor captain and upstanding people. An exceedingly cruel fate. May they all rest in peace.

[@PointNemo9]

Because they were trying to survive

[@tutorial_builder]

​@@PointNemo9 rape woman is a way to survive?

[@dasharound4371]

Fear can bring out the best and the worst in people add in the mob mentality and then you will see the worst in humanity

[@mittxns922]

You can't understand because your not a sinking ship and about to drown. Real life isn't a movie. Survival is the only thing that matters.

[@ilzee_vk]

Because there weren't enough boats and everyone knew it.

[@jadlad9666]

This entire story was a series of horrifically unfortunate events but my jaw dropped at the Vesta's fate, I wasn't expecting that

[@skyfox585]

He did say it had bulkheads :)

[@Tinnsfr]

Same!! Hit the floor, I thought they said it was a goner, but also thought it was weird they didn't mention much else about it...tried to pull a fast one...😂

[@andrewmclaren272]

Blew my mind, nearly as much as the Cunard gobshites having a parade celebrating their own lifeboats safety days after the tragedy came to light.

[@luminescentlion]

When he said it had bulkheads and the Arctic didn't I was expecting them to evacuate the Vesta's crew onto the Arctic and then have the Vesta survive.

[@neelix139]

Greeting to you, sir, my name is Jeff. I live in Rosebud, which is a suburb of Melbourne in Australia over the last few days I’ve watched a few documentaries on KZbin on the disastrous and the shameful act of sailors when they put under stress for their own laws, and how they would kill off other people for their own selfish lifestyle. Anyway, we can’t help the past. We only can make sure things are better in ship these days, anyway I wish to say thank you for your excellent documentary. I do not understand the technology that goes to make these documentaries but all I can say is well done so well done to you and your team. Absolutely fantastic brilliant I am not a ship person I’m a try not, but I still enjoyhistory documentaries all the best to you sir. Thank you very much once again, yours, Jeff Melbourne, Australia.

[@jpdemer5]

There is one memorial: Green-Wood Cemetery, in Brooklyn NY, has an elaborate monument to the Brown family members who died in this disaster. It features a marble carving of the sinking of the ship, which is a remarkable subject for a sculpture. Well worth seeking out, if you ever get to visit the cemetery.

[@vasiovasio]

Thanks for the info! I find it online now - Clara Moulton Brown ( 1830 - 1854 ). It is a good reminder of this tragic event, and interesting how the marble ( very robust material ) keeps the memories for it after all these years...

[@roopkrishendhar3640]

Thanks for the information. It is very sad and tragic to know about this terrible disaster. I salute all those unknown heroes who stood firm executing their duties. Thanks and God bless.

[@tylerhenry4357]

This should be the pinned comment

[@supremeoverlorde2109]

This story is such an example of both the bravery and the absolute depravity that can come out during times of crisis. Many of these people faced certain death, and while some did their best to help others and keep things going until the last, so many of them sunk about as low as they could get. It's one thing to do whatever you feel you must to survive --- that's just an instinctual reaction and I have a hard time blaming anyone for it. But getting wasted and then going around beating people, raping women, etc. --- just because you can? Because you're gonna die and there are no consequences? Awful. It's scary to think about how many more people walking around in our society would do things like that if they thought they could get away with it or had nothing to lose. It just goes to show why we NEED laws, order, and social norms. There needs to be a balance for sure, but a complete lack of boundaries breeds chaos. The most terrifying part of this tragedy is not the disaster itself, but the behavior of so many of the people onboard the Arctic.

[@tropicanasantana5750]

Yes yes and yes this was everything I was thinking and more!!!! We walk amongst these same kind of ppl everyday and that’s scary!!!

[@primocancilla3390]

I think that the reason there are so many of them walking around is because we have laws which prevent the good guys from taking care of those bad guys. The cops will just lock them up in jail for a couple of years. If there were no police and politicians and I caught someone molesting my family. It’s a death penalty. I’m sure most feel the same so I think that the laws and social norms are what creates these problems. It protects everything any anyone who fits into their little corrupt society and they are part of it.

[@supremeoverlorde2109]

@@primocancilla3390 I mean, I don't dispute that today's justice systems have flaws, and that there is corruption in them. But I was speaking less about the people who reoffend once they've been released, and more about the people walking around who HAVEN'T offended, but would if they thought they could get away with it. Because I believe there are people in the world like that. I mean, I certainly wouldn't want to go to jail. But that's not the only thing keeping me from going around trying to rape or beat people. I don't do that because I have empathy. Because I care about my own safety and bodily autonomy, and I expect most people have the same feelings about themselves. So I respect that. Now... I don't know what these men aboard the Arctic were actually like in their daily lives. But the story suggests to me that there are people in this world who are really only showing regard and respect to other lives because they personally have something to lose. And those are the types of people I believe laws and social norms help protect us from. But do I believe today's societal rules are perfect? No, there are definitely things I think could be improved and problems that need to be addressed.

[@Alizz1187]

@@supremeoverlorde2109 When someone has no morals, nothing concrete is holding them back from committing the most heinous crimes. Morals can be embedded through life lessons, religions or just self philosophy. Laws, social norms and everything in between are not definitive and it's in crisis like these where you can see the worst and best in people. I agree with you in that what I found most disturbing in this video is how the people reacted. Instincts are one thing but to completely embrace nihilism to the point where you are the devil in flesh, especially when you know your death is looming close, is beyond words to describe. It's for people like these hell exists. God show mercy to every poor and innocent soul on that day and surely, in every catastrophe, that had to endure atrocities like these and especially to those who've names have been forgotten.

[@xcesar4impx666]

dont forget GUNS !! 2nd amendment all the WAY!!

[@Cash_mom]

The kids the babies, my heart broke. Imagine the depression and the ptsd from the survivors. Captain losing his son. My god 💔

[@smurface549]

No parent should ever have to watch their child die. But literally having to watch while their own baby freezes to death in the cold water is too cruel to find an appropriate expression.

[@sunnycat69]

They sucked it up and moved on prob because they couldn't be professional victims on Twitter

[@Alex-mc5yn]

@@sunnycat69 touch an acre of grass, what an absolutely terminally online thing of you to say, lmfao.

[@abstractalex5719]

This carries all the same horror of the Ashtabula train wreck: A situation that continues to worsen every minute despite a slow and piecemeal beginning, and enough time to remain alive for your own death. Shameful, selfish decisions by those who should have your safety in hand worsen the scene even when they could have made a difference. Neither the Arctic or the Ashtabula wreck are the worst tragedies of their kind compared to Titanic or Malbone Street. No, rather they are the most grisly. Thank you for putting forth a wealth of information on a somewhat forgotten tragedy. This was well researched and truthful. Such things, though horrific, deserve to be remebered for the peace of those involved and so such terrible behaviors can never be repeated.

[@jimjam7782]

This story is really sad, in my opinion one of the WORST PARTS is that the Cunard CELEBRATED the death of 100s of people saying that there life boats are better. I hope that the Cunard Line now feels bad for there actions.

[@victorcolon1454]

The Cunard Line did a 180-degree turn in 1873 when the S.S. ATLANTIC disaster happened. There was no parades that time.

[@game_boyd1644]

That was so fucking vile of them

[@anna-marianunezvega1520]

"I hope the Cunard line feels bad for their action". Seriously? Because people working for Cunard today are to blame for that?!

[@skyfox585]

Cunard are basically the only line still operating, so clearly the divine powers werent to bothered with their behaviour. 😂

[@game_boyd1644]

@@anna-marianunezvega1520 the Cunard line doesn't even exist anymore. It's part of the Carnival Corporation now, which owns and runs all those shitty Cruise lines.

[@blacknapalm2131]

*There should be a HORROR movie based on this story* Wouldn't have to change a single detail either it was so heinous

[@underarmbowlingincidentof1981]

the dread of sailing full steam in the mist... the french fishermen shredded by the paddles... the sailors and passengers who went mad... the fighting... and finally the moment the captain finally spots his son only to have him killed in front of his eyes so suddenly and forcefully. ... I would watch that movie and say "Man what the... How can they make such a tragedy into such a messed up movie!!! Geez... that was..." and then I'd research it and... well ... humanity is often worse than the horrors a movie can come up with.

[@kdbrown777]

Agreed - it's so heinous that telling the truth would probably be unbelievable to audiences in the theater, and the studio would want to change things after their test screenings.

[@Daniel_Huffman]

I agree with not changing anything, because I feel that doing so is, for all intents and purposes, the same as pretending that these horrific details didn’t happen. I think that your proposed film should have an ensemble cast, though with Captain Luce as the primary POV character for the audience, who, like Luce, is constantly bewildered over the crew following his orders less and less. I also think that it should emphasize the heroic actions of those who did remain loyal, as a way of showing that disaster doesn’t just bring out the worst in humans. According to the Wikipedia article on the _Arctic_ Disaster, Captain Luce was largely viewed as a hero and was met with cheers when he arrived in New York via train. He also was largely found blameless, as "he had not sought to save himself, had gone down with his ship, and had survived largely by chance." I think that in a hypothetical scene of Luce's arrival, the mood would be described as "empty." This film would be described as a psychological horror, and would definitely be Rated R. And it shows that the _Titanic's_ passengers and crew had it comparatively better.

[@nooglet5473]

Hell yes

[@DeepEye1994]

I would love it to be an animated film so you don't have to worry too much about budget or bad actors or CGI not looking realistic, but because of Disney America is probably still not gonna try make animated films that AREN'T just for families. I look at some of the best short stories from "Love, Death & Robots" with their amazing animation styles and gorgeous camerawork/action, and I long for an entire 90 minute or two hour long film like that.

[@katehunter538]

Thank you for putting this resource together. I stumbled on it completely by chance. But my great-great-great grandfather died in this sinking. He was an American professor of English literature returning to Philadelphia from England, and carrying with him a 1st folio of Shakespeare. His name was Henry Hope Reed.

[@trafficjon400]

. Did Henry have a Wife named Elisabeth Wight Bronson having six chirldren. Emily Bronson his Sister also Died along with him on the SS Artic. Henry was born July 11 1808 and was mostly known as an Educater . . i herd from him for my Great great Grand father settled here but i can not give the name. my relatives brought Henry hope reed to my atention on our genealogy years ago i don't remember but i can ask my aunt for she keeps all the family history. Did you know his sister was on the ship with him ? Hope this must be the correct Henry Hope Reed.

[@paulolucero9864]

Well the lore deepens, I'll leave a comment here to see how the story ends

[@katehunter538]

@@paulolucero9864 I'm glad you commented. I had composed my response to trafficjon a day or two ago, but I guess I didn't complete it. Now done!

[@paulolucero9864]

@@katehunter538 no probs, I am really interested in these kinda stories of genealogy since I really can't do the same for my own family

[@highjinx6519]

@@katehunter538 did you respond to him? I can’t see it if so.

[@shaquilleburton1611]

Now this here should be a movie.

[@AndyHappyGuy]

I can’t imagine how Captain Luce would’ve felt to see his son be killed right in front of him by something so unexpected and unpredictable.

[@dracorex426]

Also the fact that the very thing that obliterated his son was the only reason he survived.

[@machupikachu1085]

@@dracorex426 talk about survivors guilt

[@fredherbert7920]

He had another wife and son beforehand, who both died. When his second son died in the sinking, his second wife died shortly after. Luce spent the rest of his life as a Steamship Inspector, tormented by the loss of the Arctic. And to think this was a man who was a Captain by his early 20s, a prodigy! What a sad end to his life and to a successful and decorated career

[@titantanic7255]

Something he would later use to survive

[@aikidoboynj]

@@fredherbert7920 Why are you doing thish shir?

[@JakeB8494]

This really makes me applaud the skill and professionalism of the crew on the Titanic, and the conduct of most of the male passengers. Everyone who thinks Titanic's crew or the officers were incomptent just compare the sinking of these two ships. The sinking of the Titanic was awful and the loss of life tragic but without the professional conduct of the crew it would have been so much worse

[@fastinradfordable]

Oh ya the titanic was top notch…

[@bernlin2000]

The biggest tragedy is that both boats (despite being built 60 years apart) and the same fatal safety issue: not enough life boats. The Arctic should have been the end of the practice of not providing enough boats on-board for all passengers. It wasn't, and hundreds of additional people died on the Titanic (and no doubt other ships in between) simply to save a few bucks on some wooden dingies. Total travesty.

[@jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821]

ya cause waiting so long and launching the boats half full was so professional.........................................

[@JakeB8494]

@@jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 It was. Captain Smith found out the ship was flooding almost immediately. He found out the ship was sinking around 12:30ish and immediately ordered the lifeboats loaded and away immediately. Also the crew had a real problem with find people to board the boats. The Californian's lights on the horizon, women unwilling to leave there husbands and sons, Lightoller taking 'woman and children first' to an extreme,and many other reasons led the boats to being half full. Passengers were not willing get in a little boat in the pitch black ocean when the liner looked safer. Indeed as the sinking progressed the stern boats were almost filled to capacity as more people were there. So again the crew overall did damn well given the circumstances

[@KleptomaniacJames]

@@JakeB8494 if they hadn’t course corrected they would never had sunk

[@Pengochan]

"Politicians gave them the requirement of always steaming at full speed" ... yeah, these Politicians should've been required to always have close relatives on at least two of the ships.

[@billstill1794]

To be honest, I do not believe that quoted directive because it makes no sense at all. If that is true then that silliness should have been simply ignored.

[@Bloomkyaaa]

@@billstill1794 Yeah like how the fuck would they know if the ship was going at full speed at all times? That's so fucking stupid.

[@ChrisCooper312]

Sadly though, it does seem realistic. Politicians have plenty of form for this sort of thing. Even today we often see cases where politicians will criticise the actions of others despite playing a role in the issue themselves. Just look at COVID. So many governments and politicians who made decisions that effected the course of the pandemic will blame everyone (the experts, the public, health services etc) but not take any responsibility themselves.

[@grmpEqweer]

"I SWEAR we always steamed full-speed ahead! Honest!" Better to be a fired liar than an honest corpse.

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

@@billstill1794 It's true. It was believed that the faster you got through the dangerous iceberg waters of the North Atlantic, the safer you would be. Sadly this belief was held through to the time of the Titanic. Really dumb 'logic'.

[@Sharki_V]

This was WILD, holy cow! I had never heard of this before today, and the way you made the video and narrate is just beautifully done.

[@tedragus3351]

I'm really surprised that Captain Luce survived but they made him look like the villain instead of him trying to save everyone

[@jabronisauce6833]

His decisions caused it that's why regardless of how he acted afterwards.

[@CJODell12]

Those cowards were just trying to cover up their own misdeeds

[@marklowery8193]

They did the same to Capt Turner of Lusitania, with orders the admiralty claimed they sent him but they didn’t. Got him on the stand, he’s traumatised and they tried to make him seem like he led the ship into the hands of a German uboat. It was all to fuel propaganda to enter WW1

[@kurtsherrick2066]

It happens everytime. The British Government and Churchill who was head of the British Admiralty during WWII. They tried to blame the Captain of the Lusitania and a British Judge refused to falsify accuse the Captain. So they made up a lie about U20 saying the Submarine shot two torpedoes which had been proven to only shoot one Torpedo. Churchill set up the Ship. There is a recent Documentary Movie about the Sinking of the Lusitania. The U.S. Government falsely accused Mcvay the Captain of the U.S.S. Indianapolis that dropped off the A Bombs. The Japanese Captain of the Submarine that sank the Indianapolis that there was nothing McVay could have done to stop him from sinking the Hero Battleship. Mcvay shot himself the day he buried his wife. His family worked for years to correct the record and finally succeeded. They always have to blame others for their mistakes.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

I am sorry I meant WWI. Word change changed my Lusitania comment to the second World War. The Indianapolis was at the end of WWII. The Captain of the Orca in Jaws told the horrifying event of the U.S.S Indianapolis.

[@nancyjones6780]

The crew lost their bloody minds!! WTF?! This story is shocking! The rapes during the sinking? I have no words for that. Great re-creation!! New sub!

[@Jezza_C_WT]

This story just highlights how civility is just a thin veil over the beastly nature of mankind. A veil that quickly becomes removed in trying times, and that beastly nature rears its ugly head.

[@FieldMarshalRommel23]

What sort of heinous beasts are thinking about sex and booze as everyone around them, including themselves were facing death.

[@katherinea.williams3044]

Have to concur with both of you. Abhorrent! I’m going to subscribe now, what a well made video! Thanks mate! Love & Light from Miami Shores🦚 Stay safe mates🌎🙏🏼 Peace & Prayers for Ukraine🇺🇦

[@tgiacin435]

@@FieldMarshalRommel23 panic. You’re facing death with potentially no hope of being rescued, people are gonna try to have one last experience of pleasure before being taken to the freezing waters below

[@FieldMarshalRommel23]

@@tgiacin435 I've been in life threatening situations were people died Sir and I can assure you, "pleasure" was the last thing on my mind.

[@LegoAssassin098]

I am sorry that everyone betrayed you, captain. Not only your friends and crew, but your passengers too. You are a noble man and deserved to be named a hero, instead was painted a Villain. History will remember you as a great man who did everything you could to save your crew. I hope you were reunited with your son. And to the woman who died at the pump, and to the boy who died firing the cannon, you are also heroes. I will never know you, but I hope you received the revalry you deserve.

[@rooh5825]

There's a problem with the way this video portrays the captain. To anyone with any service at sea, or even within the military, it is patently obvious that this ship had a major leadership problem, that's from the top down. Remember, we are talking about the officers here, not just the lower ranking crewmen. To have the officers do what they did establishes a major problem with the captain's leadership. Whether it be a failure to establish himself or some other weakness in his abilities, when officers to not follow their captain/commander, especially in a situation like this, it's pretty telling that the captain himself was not a good leader. Was he a good person, a noble person? Most certainly. Was he a hero, a gallant leader? Questionable at best, more than likely not.

[@cosmojuicer]

Raise a toast to Captain Luce!

[@carolnahigian9518]

exactly what I say; the 'facts' are not the Whole Truth! The Ceptain is s Noble& trained PROFESSIONAL!

[@bobabooey4537]

You told the Captain his crew betrayed him but it was not all of them. Captain... LegoAssasin meant to say that he was sorry to hear about the betrayal of many. We all know that it wasn't your entire crew who betrayed you. For it was you and the loyal few from your crew who are remembered to this very day. Over 1.1 million views on this KZbin video in remembrance of that grim day of cowardice and heroics.

[@rooh5825]

@@carolnahigian9518 - "professional"? With such poor discipline amongst his officers? There was an obvious problem brewing long before this day, poisonous command climate is obvious here.

[@dylanlooney6573]

It’s hard to say how I’d react in this situation but the what the crewmen did was sickening

[@ritagamez3732]

To say the list. Unbelievable. 🙏🏻💔

[@davepowell7168]

Refusing to pick up the freezing and potentially drowning swimmers seemed callous (as space was available) but then this catastrophe became even darker. The families of the 320 victims must have suffered terribly also. Impressive narrative and superb visual information , this being my first experience of this channel. The music was appropriate and not distracting so feel compelled to subscribe. Thanks guys

[@martinclark8162]

Well said Dave, I was completely fixated by the narrator and the story.

[@johnathanmyers7033]

This comment sums up my feelings exactly.

[@mystogan4542]

Disaster Deeznuts

[@kitslagle6296]

The crew of the Arctic sounded like a piece a work. Sounded like there were less than a handful that were noble.

[@barkbuck5521]

There isn't many stories that genuinely shock me, but this one does it. The crew absolutely doomed them, and in the worst ways possible... It's incredible anyone made it, especially from The Vesta.

[@j.r.c8145]

You do a fantastic job reporting these tragedies. You are interesting to listen to but compassionate. You help to ensure these people, these ships, these stories are not forgotten. Thankyou.

[@medea27]

I _knew_ I recognised that passenger's name @ 3:50 ... Frederick Catherwood is an important name in Central American archaeology, having introduced the Western world to the wonders of ancient Mayan civilisation through his stunningly detailed drawings & paintings. He captured Mayan glyphs & architecture with such clarity that modern archaeologists still use his works as references. I knew he died on a ship but had no idea about this tragedy... to think he survived punishing conditions on expedition deep in the rainforest, only to die in the middle of the ocean thanks to the cowardice of his fellow man. RIP Frederick & all who died in this disaster 🤍

[@turricanedtc3764]

From a purely historical point of view, one can see how the powers-that-be came to assume that the presence of Marconi wireless alone in the early 20th century would likely prevent a disaster of this nature from happening again, given the number of vessels that came across and rescued the scattered survivors. The notion that a stricken vessel would be able to call every other vessel in the vicinity to effect a rescue might have seemed almost miraculous by the standards of sixty years prior.

[@DLAbaoaqu]

At least when the ATLANTIC sank, the lack of women and children surviving was a matter of bad luck… I really feel bad for Luce.

[@이이-n4z8y]

No, it is a matter of genes and age.

[@Del-Canada]

Yea, that sank not far from me.

[@jeffreycater5447]

@@Del-Canada eh a fellow bluenoser

[@Del-Canada]

@@jeffreycater5447 Hey there. Getting some rain today.

[@jeffreycater5447]

@@Del-Canada it today couldn’t be more beautiful

[@TheeCharmaine]

The sounds of the waves during this documentary was just delightful! Thanks! 💕

[@ColonelSandersLite]

"The absolute hell that unfolded during this ordeal is one of the worst I have ever studied." You might want to look into the shipwreck of the Batavia in 1629. IMHO, it's definitely worse. Batavia was a Dutch east indiaman that hit a reef off the coast of Australia. *Most* of the crew and passengers survived the initial wreckage and where marooned on some reefs. It has all the elements of this story, and more. The biggest difference is that the horrors went on for months. Naturally, in that kind of time span, the depravity spiraled down into some pretty bad places. A youtuber going by the name of Defragged History did a very detailed 4 hour series on it. I can't recommend it enough.

[@rodrigosilva1046]

Before reading your comment,I have not even heard about the Batavia's story. And my God,you are absolutely right! Not only for the mutiny and the cowardness and terrible action of some "men",like Jeronimous ( aka The Devil Itself),but because,like you said, it lasted for a few months and even children and pregnant women were killed Its one of the darkest stories to ever happen at sea,hopefully Part Time Explorer delivers a proper video about it any day

[@ColonelSandersLite]

​@@rodrigosilva1046 Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's hard for me to imagine things getting much worse while still leaving the possibility of survivors living to tell the tale. I can think of stories that are worse on land but the sea is pretty unforgiving.

[@jenOutpost]

Wow I'm glad I saw your comment - after I watched this great video, I went and watched that series and boy, that was one epic, horrible tale also told incredibly well!

[@shutupdave]

I read about it in a book called The Blue-Eyed Aborigine, absolutely horrifying stuff and I’m surprised it’s not talked about more often.

[@hodaka1000]

@@shutupdave There are remains of stone walls built by the survivors regarded as the earliest European building in Australia

[@swagmanandy]

Captain Luce was a hero and deserves a fitting memorial.

[@knightscroftsquire-muldoon]

You are 100 percent right! The captain was noble and did _everything_ he could to help the women and children. Those of the crew should have been hunted down wherever they were in Canada for their disgusting and selfish actions!

[@timboth9999]

First, let me say thank you so much for narrating it yourself, and not using the stupid AI voices that others refer to. Second just wow what an amazing piece of history research and production. This is a wonderful piece of work and you should be very proud of it. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you.

[@BezmenovDisciple]

Absolutely!! I hear the AI voice, I immediately move on to another video.

[@claytonbouldin9381]

​@BezmenovDisciple Me too. The ai generated voice is horrible. I just move on to the next video.

[@TransDrummer1312]

@@claytonbouldin9381when I hear an AI voice I press the three dots and press "don't recommend this channel to me again" to make sure I don't even accidentally click it.

[@allgirrrlrider5395]

Anybody else obsessed with sinking ship stories?

[@mikethebike2456]

🛵 Apparently i am.

[@ritanyaga8581]

​@@mikethebike2456they are so interesting 😊

[@mikethebike2456]

@@ritanyaga8581 🛵 I knew i was into Titanic but apparently all ship disasters are so compelling to learn about. This one might be the worst. I recommend another disaster that fascinates me. It's called the Franklin Expedition. The first season of THE TERROR got me into it.📺 130 men lost in the Arctic after their ship is seized by ice. Not a quick death like ten minutes in the ocean.

[@gtaitz]

I am, especially with the Titanic, Carpathia, Britannic, Olympic etc.

[@FijiBlueM00gie]

Yes after I watched the Titanic for the first time last week. I’ve been searching all yt for sunken ships videos

[@julieblack2178]

Thank you for telling this story. I had not heard of the Arctic previously. It saddens me to hear of all the cowards who left people to die. I feel badly for Captain Luce. Not only did he lose his child, but had to suffer through the lies told about him. The heroes, who persevered despite their efforts proving futile. Their names deserve to be heard and remembered. I will remember now. New subscriber.

[@jumblestiltskin1365]

Found it very sad to listen that not one of the women or children survived. What an awful tragedy. If you want to hear about a different story though, look for a retelling of the sinking of the Birkenhead off south Africa. That story was a shining example of chivalry and honour amidst tragedy.

[@julieblack2178]

@@jumblestiltskin1365 Thank you for your suggestion. I will look into that one next.

[@whitedragoness23]

@@jumblestiltskin1365I do wonder if the crew hadn’t fled and mutiny. Would there had been more survivors of women and children? Men too but none of the women or children survive and left to a horrible fate. Some seemed to had never been seen again. Maybe the rough sea?

[@SataniaMcDowel]

Poor Capt Luce :( Can't believe everyone pointed the finger at him blindly

[@warlordofbritannia]

The media was probably worse back then-the ideal of journalistic integrity didn’t even exist yet-and because newspapers were the only method of mass information there was practically no chance of effective of countering an already established narrative that we have with social media and the Internet.

[@KorriTimigan]

Dear God in heaven. I have to admit that I scoffed at the content warning before the story, because there was nothing that would shock me. I was wrong. What an absolutely horrific sequence of events. This might just be one of the most tragic, but brilliant videos I've ever seen.

[@NinjaTyler]

Same here I've heard so many horrible stories but this one is definitely in the top dozen of them, and raised even higher than others involving family deaths due to the direct actions of the crew, other stories it's usually the greedy owners indirectly killing everyone by barring escape doors and such. But here the crew and some male passengers actively caused so much cruel death.

[@Redbean23]

Amazingly well put together presentation, sir. I’m sold, you’ve earned a subscriber!