Charismatic Con Artists

[@Pastor_Grant]

When people have actually bothered to investigate these charismatic faith healers they proved what we already knew, they are con men - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHarkKiXa52GhZo

[@JackN808]

Thank you Michael Grant. As it is written, "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Anyone who is fellowshipping with any of these charlatans, false teachers, false prophets, merchandise peddlers, angel feather and gold dust fable makers..... will be under the same judgment as them. True believers must abstain from all appearance of evil. Prove all things, hold fast to that which is good. 🙏🙏

[@gailwatson4927]

Michael Brown has been on my mark and avoid list for years now!

[@Dilley_G45]

He is known as "Doc Obs" Doctor of Obfuscation

[@mrs.ogbuagu]

He doesn’t care

[@lcollins4313]

@@mrs.ogbuaguNope, because he’s profiting off his position regardless. He doesn’t care about anyone’s salvation. Actually Dr Brown doesn’t really care about God either or His Word.😊

[@marhill77]

Growing up in the charismatic movement - this is what my mother & grandmother instilled in us boys. Took me many years before I started to realize these men (and women) were NOT legit. Read your bibles and don’t be afraid to question anybody, even your own pastor

[@tommystacker3286]

Well said pastor- thanks for addressing M Brown.

[@TheElizabethashby]

THE 1ST TIME I SAW MICHAEL BROW I HAD A REALLY BAD GUT FEELING ABOUT HIM I COULD NEVER TRUST THAT MAN EVER

[@ElainePsalm91]

ditto ditto ditto Elizabeth! 🙄😵‍💫

[@MrTacklebury]

I appreciate you pointing these out. It's sickening to me.

[@aaronlee6821]

I just came across your channel and must say your analysis is spot on. While we cannot say for certain if someone is a true believer or not, both Sam Storms and Michael Brown have shown over and over again that they do not hold the truth in high regard. They do not care if someone is preaching falsehoods. And they put their friendships with men above their supposed love for God and the truth. I cannot see how someone who is born of the The Spirit, whom is indwelt with the Holy Spirit, can say things like they don't care if a person is speaking/performing falsely in the name of God. It should grieve all true believers when they see God being ridiculed and misrepresented. If someone doesn't care, as Michael Brown and Sam Storms do not care, in my opinion we should absolutely in no way whatsoever treat them as if they are members of the body of Christ. While that roundtable mentioned did bring to light these issues, I think both Justin Peters and Jim Osman should have clearly stated that they do not treat them as brothers in Christ, due to that very issue. They do not need to state that they are unbelievers, because just stating that they do not treat them as brothers in Christ should be more than sufficient to let everyone know that their (Brown/Storms) actions are absolutely in complete opposition to what we are taught in the Bible.

[@pastorernestalbuquerque4770]

All of them suffer from biblical discernment deficiency syndrome. Thanks Pastor Grant. God bless.

[@TheElizabethashby]

PEOPLE READ YOUR BIBLE WITH PRAYER TRUST IN HIS WORD NOT MAN AND BE DECEIVED

[@yolandasoro]

Brown endorses Sid Roth.The End! Without their lies their Gravy train dies!

[@davidmacias741]

Went to a charismatic church for a couple years right after i got saved. People there were super loving but the messages got to be like a show and they really made the person the focus and not God. God was spoken of like a santa Claus or jeannie where you get everything you want to live a happy life with hardly any problems. They say imagine YOUR DREAMS instead of asking God how He wants them to serve. They make it all about the person.

[@jeepnty8559]

I shouldn’t laugh, but the "God has a body parts room". 😂. I cannot fathom how people think this is real. Then again most won’t open a bible. The church can take partial blame, but it boils down to a person not reading scripture. People following whatever "tickles their ears"

[@billiamnotbob]

People follow Katt Kerr. And BELIEVE her!!! I wish I could say I'm surprised. I avoid Brown, Storms and their ilk like the plague.

[@kathierouse6046]

I had to laugh , too, about the "body parts in heaven". Just as funny as Kat Kerr! Hilarious!!! 🤣🤣😂

[@jonahdav9589]

amen, I pray that people would mark and avoid Brown/Storms. At the "Convergence" conference Brown and Storms "train" the prophetic. Sam Storms said it does not matter when one gets it wrong on God giving prophetic urges/words as long as people are prayed for but in God's word getting it wrong one time in the Old Testament equaled death and listening to a false prophet would make one worthless (Jeremiah 23:16). Simon the sorcerer thought he could buy the gifts and Sam Storms and Brown headline conferences that literally with the price of the entrance fee sell the "training" for the gifts. Their books/words should be avoided. There are reformed pastors that ask their churches to make space for Storms, ugh. I pray it would no longer be the case. We have the the resurrected Christ, His finished work on the cross. His risen life, Him as our only mediator, and these modern false prophets point people to seek after signs which shipwrecks entire house holds.

[@christianuniversalist]

James White and Michael Brown are buddies. Not a good look for James White, but in all honesty, It think JW likes being associated with the who’s who of Protestant academia.

[@christianuniversalist]

James White and Michael Brown are good friends. Although they debated several years ago, JW has this odd acquiescence to MBs opinions (just search KZbin to see what i’m referring to) Not a good look for White.

[@roseeverett-martin2057]

1. They can’t train the prophetic. That's how we get false prophets. 2. We aren't to seek after sign period. That said, the Holy Ghost was poured out AFTER Jesus left. Crazy wolves do not invalidate what God later said with their false proclamations what is written in the Word.

[@stacyw607]

Any time I have seen him get questioned about things he supports, he interrupts them and cuts their mic

[@Pastor_Grant]

He is known for that, when I called his program and was on air, he muted me so I couldn't respond.

[@TheElizabethashby]

KAT KERR HAS NEVER BEEN ON SID ROTH SHOW I THINK THERE MUST BE A LIMIT I ALWAYS LAUGH AT THAT

[@Pastor_Grant]

Yes, maybe MAYBE Brown would distance himself from Kerr and Popoff but he definitely defends rank heretics. God bless.

[@peterchudleigh6708]

2 Timothy 3:13 charismatics don't mind deceiving and being deceived

[@Shudras77]

I’m very glad they did that round table. It was great for everybody to see.

[@dianarogers7222]

“Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.” Philippians 4:8

[@gregoryrelationshipcoach9229]

MB is the most deceptive man ive ever known.

[@xandervideo1]

Excellent video, thank you.

[@cwilson0713]

Fiiiire!!!!😂

[@SimpleSavings690]

Preach it!!

[@brucestelchook4223]

Good job!

[@sneaksyranger]

Michael Brown very much so refuses to address the grave error of his friends. He did it on that round table discussion when Justin Peters challenged him on Sid Roth, he pulled out the vile and racist things Martin Luther said in this masterful deflection/whataboutism maneuver without ever actually addressing Sid Roth other than "I know him". Funny, he knew Mike Bickle and Robert Morris too...

[@TerryF-ht4qf]

Question for Pastor Grant and this is little off topic, but is repent of your sins biblical?

[@mandydoerfler2909]

Recently found your videos and appreciate them. My husband and I are becoming weary of churches and feel like we just have to pick one with the “least problems”. We aren’t perfect and neither is any church, we get that. However, we would just like to find a church with discerning people and leaders. We are in a very rural area where the choices are 1) progressive 2) too charasmatic 3) seemingly traditional but use “famous worship” (elevation) or 4) Mennonite 😞 We thought our current church was solid, and while we’ve never heard heresy from the pulpit, the main pastor seems obsessed with John Piper and is even taking people to CrossCon where David Platt is also speaking. He also had the youth read Platts Radical missions book. 😣 Other concerns too, but researching in our tri-county area is kind of depressing.

[@aaronlee6821]

I can feel for you in your position, because I'm in many ways the same. There is absolutely no church in my area that I can feel comfortable in being a member of. I do regularly attend the least problematic church near me, and I teach Sunday school and Bible studies in that church, but I do not teach in any way practices in the church which I do not agree with. I know it is best that all believers are a member of a local church, but I simply cannot endorse a church, via my membership, if I have the reservations about them that I do. I generally get nothing out of the pastor's sermons, which are very shallow/light. I get much more out of studying the Bible on my own, preparing for Bible studies / Sunday school lessons. And to hear good preaching, listen to my favorite pastors on KZbin. I know it's far, far from ideal, but for those of us who are geographically isolated from a good church, I don't know of any better alternative. For the longest time I didn't take any action towards doing something about it, but in starting up these Bible studies, perhaps it will lead to finding a group of like-minded believers, and we can eventually meet outside of the church, in a home or such. One member of our Bible study in particular has been in the church for more than a decade, but seemingly hadn't matured much at all, but in just a couple months in our Bible study has matured perhaps more than in the past 10 years. The hope of getting a solid group of believers who aren't ashamed of any part of God's Word and eagerly seek to fellowship with others of the same mind is what encourages me to keep along this path.

[@stevebrandau9300]

Michael your made a good case about Sid Roth. Brown... not so much.

[@Pastor_Grant]

@@stevebrandau9300 they are all the same. On what basis is brown any different?

[@aaronlee6821]

@@Pastor_Grant Brown's friendship with Roth, and putting that friendship above God and the truth is enough to show who Brown is. If his friendship with Roth is that important to him, we should treat the two the same.

[@MarkWarriner-yt2yz]

The Pentecostal/ charismatic movement is huge. There are plenty of excesses in this movement and particularly amongst "word of faith" teachers who appear on the media. Money does seem to greatly influence their actions. In some ways this is low hanging fruit but it is right to criticise these excesses. I really dont watch Sid Roth much. Although i might watch more if there are more taiking horses- sounds lime great comedy. Personally i tend to feel he is on the wildly optimistic delusional side of this but hes genuine- wanting to see the mighty hand of God in everything. I dont find this terrible as long as you recognise this. Michael Brown is a very smart and articulate christian. His strongly messiamic jewish beliefs irritate me at times but he is a formidable intellect and his knowledge of scriptures is extensive. I personally think that he does defend his mi isterial friends almost to a fault. Thats true of ministers from other church groupings. Some of that is giving people the benefit of the doubt. But there are millions of Pentecostals throughout the world who are perfectly sound.. They operate in the gifts of the Spirit. Justin Peters has his good points but he is a cessationist and calvanist and he is somewhat biased - criticising charismatics for not being cessationist. I was saved in an AOG church in England. There was 200 at the midweek prayer meeting. Had special university level meetings to study the word and operared in the gifts of the Spirit. I was baptised in the Spirit there and spoke in tongues. The worship was outstanding including wesleyan hyms.

[@johnlavender242]

I’m still puzzled about James White’s friendship with Micheal Brown.

[@linettebarnes237]

Never heard that

[@joebiscuit8958]

Is Derek Prince from Singapore, a false teacher?

[@mrs.ogbuagu]

You mean Joseph Prince ? Why don’t you listen to him before you look for dirt. He’s fine.

[@kathierouse6046]

Joseph Prince is a false teacher. Derek Prince is also a false teacher.

[@mrs.ogbuagu]

@@kathierouse6046 there’s more to Christianity than calling out “false teachers”. The late Derek Prince had a great ministry. Joseph Prince has a wonderful ministry presently. They are getting their reward in heaven for their faithfulness and service. As for KZbin “Christian” backstabbers, you all will be judged for your forked tongues and poison words. You are not earning any rewards for your verbal condemnation. May God reward your judgment on others, back on your own head. Your reward is the foul taste in your mouth after trash talking other believers. If we are not allowed to speak ill of Satan, how can we speak ill of our brothers and sisters? In your mouth is the fire of hell. There is no reward in glory for this. “Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭11‬-‭12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@lcollins4313]

⁠@@mrs.ogbuagu Call out false doctrines and teachers is scriptural and honest. These pastors and scholars are called to call them out and protect the flock, especially the new converted that are still learning to understand the Word and get their feet under them. Selling Jesus is the mark of the Sadducee’s and Pharisees, which Jesus confronted them face to face. Exploiting the Word of God for filthy lucre.

[@joebiscuit8958]

@kathierouse6046 please tell me what he teaches that is wrong. A friend of mine begins and ends her day with his devotional.

[@beaulin5628]

Michael Brown is particularly skillful in making arguments that give the impression that he is sound in the faith. Very much of what he says is true, especially when he is reasoning with Jewish unbelievers, or defending Israel's right to exist. But he does try to defend these charismatic charlatans.

[@SteveMontjoy]

If Sid believes the things that he promotes then he is as decieved as those on his show

[@PamelaSmith20010]

Here we part ways because not everyone that has an experience is a false teacher, but anyone who departs from the WORD , LIVING AND WRITTEN IS WRONG

[@Pastor_Grant]

@@PamelaSmith20010 I hope you understand. I believe there are many charismatics who love Christ and I do not think that having an experience make someone a false teacher. I've had an experience as well but I don't teach it as authoritative in my sermons like these people do.

[@Pastor_Grant]

@@PamelaSmith20010 I'm more referring to the leadership of the movement, the guys on TV, etc

[@larriveeman]

Are you Calvinist?

[@suzanneyoung6273]

I think he is, he has John Mac’ and now Justin Peters. If he isn’t he is very close to it.

[@belvederebaileycambodia]

It would appear so. The whole impetus of this video revolves around Justin Peters' and his commentary. Calvist or not ( that's a whole other can of worms), these guys are right. Michael Brown is a charlatan. As is Sid Roth.

[@lcollins4313]

Explain what a Calvinist is.

[@SteveMontjoy]

This is why I stopped watching Sid's show just too far out there shameful

[@davidschefter4160]

Are you a Calvanist?

[@Dilley_G45]

Wether he is or not....just because you oppose Charismatic heresy doesn't mean you support calvinism. Which is also a false teaching.

[@Pastor_Grant]

I am a Christian. I've never read the writings of John Calvin nor do I plan on it. I do believe in Election, Total inability and the Perseverance of the Saints. Go and watch my two part series on Predestination and judge for yourself.

[@davidschefter4160]

@@Pastor_Grant Thank you for your response, God bless you Pastor for exposing these false teachers.

[@SandraSanGiorgio-m1f]

The church is mostly NOT part of Gods heart nor word, I isolated myself years ago, I only new my Bible and a few worship songs, like VICTORY BELONGS TO JESUS, BY TODD DELANEY, I SPEAK JESUS, most utube contents is mostly rubbish and they all asking for money. 😂

[@Pastor_Grant]

There are good churches you just have to do a little looking. Any good church these days that's not trying to hide their beliefs and are trying to reach the whole, they are online and they have a doctrinal statement you can read.

[@SandraSanGiorgio-m1f]

These weird christian people are in this time, are somewhat insane, all they want is money, most prophets are well studied on new age but NOT ON GODS WORD, where is the HOLY SPIRIT? GOD help us all, sheep are deceived by 99,% these self appointed lier's. How is part of JESUS really 1% maybe, my heart brakes!! 😂

[@belvederebaileycambodia]

liar... breaks... just sayin'.

[@raynaRobichaud]

What's worse?a charismatic con or a con man like Trump running for president. 😎

[@michaelfalsia6062]

Michael Brown is in my opinion the most dangerous of the charismatics. He is smart scholarly and very clever and cagy. Another is as you said Sam Storms and NT scholar Craig Keener. Gordon Fee although old is another sophisticated scholar and the two defenders of the Charismatic heresy and delusion DA Carson and John Piper. Michael Brown can be quite nasty too. James White is a friend of Brown and has wholly endorsed him. The same Janes White who now has three tattoos a supposed mature solid man of God. The influence of Jeff Durbin and the new brave and bold young Calvinist. White does not handle moral criticism and reproof well either. Just like Brown. Sad and disappointing.