Pat Riley explained who is the number 1 NBA player of all time

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[@willinnewhaven3285]

"If it's about titles." Bill Russell, count ther rings

[@nbagoats4819]

No, count all those HOF players he played with.

[@willinnewhaven3285]

@@nbagoats4819 The hilarious thing is that no one rates any of them all that highly except in this context.

[@talbotdarren]

The rules were changed to make the game harder for Wilt. He still holds 72 NBA records, most of which will never be broken. In a question of who is the greatest individual player, how is it even a question?

[@jrr3787]

It's not. Today's fanboys in diapers dismiss Wilt because they never saw him play, therefore he cannot possibly in the conversation. In another 20 years Jordan won't be in the top 20 according to most of them.

[@thespaceram2879]

The Heat might of broken it if the Nba didn't mettle to get in the way they did in 2013 by helping the Bulls win. The Heat were actually closing in that record.

[@finerbiner]

Because it is a team game. If Mike didn't care about winning and played like James Hardin, his stats would have been much more impressive. He would have been a WORSE player though. If they line up the greats and choose up sides there are a lot of players in front of wilt. just at center I'll take Kareen, the Dream or Russel ahead of Wilt.

[@wymple09]

@@finerbinerDelusional. Wilt owned it.

[@finerbiner]

@@wymple09 That is a fine argument. Right up there with rubber and glue.

[@glenscott5118]

Forget rings. Wilt could stop anybody, and nobody could stop Wilt. Wilt is the man.

[@sol1120]

He must have lots 0 rings. Can’t remember how many. How many?

[@folag]

Chamberlain had 2 rings, playing at the same era as Bill Russell, who had 11. Wilt's career was defined by enduring frustration when being defended by Bill.

[@garygoodin1426]

Except Wilt admitted he "had to ask his teammates for help against Kareem". Together they jumped higher than any two players I ever witnessed on a bb court.

[@RockettServehard-li1do]

wilt played his prime in the 60s who was there to stop or stop him and if hes the only one scoring and not playing as a team hell lose every single tim

[@finerbiner]

Most selfish great player of all time, with the results to prove it.

[@johnostrowski3402]

Larry Legend all day.

[@djcook5854]

Larry was The Man Jordan said Larry was Better than LeBron. But Respectfully I say Wilt.

[@alanduff1054]

EVERY day...

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

@@djcook5854 If Larry played against Wilt he would NOT have talked trash. PERIOD

[@1956tojo]

@@user-jd9zm4jf3t No... He'd have turned up the heat and burned him without saying a word... til after....

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

@@1956tojo You are BOTH : too young....and....hallucinatory

[@waltermorris337]

With Magic and Larry - it wasn’t about numbers……it was about building chemistry and winning……..

[@alberg6290]

the championship game against Philadelphia was the greatest GAME ever played by an individual

[@MikeBDaniels-bv8io]

I saw an interview (probably on KZbin) where they asked Kareem who was the best ever. He said you can’t choose one over another. Everyone is different. He’s got a point. I’ve been watching basketball since the fifties. My choice is Magic Johnson. Also two never mentioned but truly great players were Elgin Baylor and Oscar Robertson.

[@williesayulita]

A man of my own heart. I too have been watching since the 50's. Elgin and Oscar, two of my favorites. Thought Magic was great also. You can't deny Jordan's or LeBron's greatness. To me the most dominant basketball player by far was Wilt.

[@MikeBDaniels-bv8io]

@@williesayulita I remember Elgin Baylor from my days at Turkey Thicket (Northeast D.C.). The playground was legally segregated but de facto was integrated by the white boys (Jim Wexler, Lew Luce, the guy from St. Anthony’s) who wanted to see how they measured up against ‘Rabbit’ ((Baylor’s nickname.. There was no college basketball to speak of (Maryland, Georgetown were nothing), no Bullets then, no arenas. If you wanted to see basketball you went to one of the four playgrounds, greatest of which was Turkey Thicket. I miss those days. Bullshit on anyone saying 2024 is better than the fifties, 😳. Take care!

[@williesayulita]

Though I grew up in NYC, Elgin was always my favorite player. He changed the game. A forerunner to David Thompson, Jordan, etc.Robertson was also incredible. Didn't maybe have quite the flash as some, but he could do it all. My starting 5 would be Wilt, Duncan, Baylor, Oscar and Jordan.@@MikeBDaniels-bv8io

[@rufferto5429]

If it's titles, it's Bill Russell all the way.

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

It’s not even close. A 6 team, local sport instead of the global game it is today, that’s like saying when you joined the rec league of 40 people and won 5 times is better than later when the rec league expanded to 1,000,000 pool of talent and won 3 times. The salary back then was so low that many players even had to take second jobs, hence the whole milkman and plumber comment, whereas today, it’s a multi billion dollar industry with talent from all over the globe training their entire lives. This is common sense. Even three year olds understand this concept. I don’t know why so many people just mentally fumble and stumble over understanding this simple, simple point.

[@PIP...33]

@@iwishiwasthomasshelby SAM JONES 10-0 BEST IN HISTORY RECORD. RUSSELL WAS 4TH OPTION SAM JONES LEADER SCORER.

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

@@PIP...33 take off the caps bruh. Makes you look like a crazed serial killer.

[@t-bo-lesotho]

@@iwishiwasthomasshelby The NBA had two competitors during Russell's career (the ABL and ABA), no European players, no African players, no Latin American or Asian players, and was a distant third in popularity to MLB and the NFL. Foreign born players have won the last five MVP awards. Also, the population of the United States was little more than half what it is now.

[@iwishiwasthomasshelby]

@@t-bo-lesotho good points. Yeah, the talent pool is not even close to what it is in since Jordan made it global.

[@MrFargo1001]

Notice they don't even mention Wilt Chamberlain? That's becuz there are many Great players. But only 1 Chamberlain!

[@eddieG667]

He does if they walk about that era. They were teammates

[@joemarshall4226]

The problem with Wilt is that it took him a while to learn how to play the kind of basketball that makes your teammates great. No matter how good one player is, he can't beat an organized team of five world-class athletes all the time.

[@MrFargo1001]

@@joemarshall4226 That's not entirely accurate. Along with a plethora of other records, Wilt also led the league in Assists! In fact, among Centers, he still holds the record. And he retired 50 Years Ago! Wilt's true problem was he was so good they would build a team around him, but never a true quality team. And Basketball is a Team sport. Yes, he had some really good players at times, but nothing consistent like Bill Russell had with the Celtics. Also, when I list Wilt as the GOAT, I mean as a Singular Individual Player. One on One, there isn't anyone on the planet, before or since, who has ever played the game that could go up against Wilt Chamberlain. I played and watched B'Ball for decades, and I say that without any hesitation.

[@r-leanmygirl-gj2kt]

Chamberlain was in a class by himself.

[@2Thes22]

Wilt is far above everyone else. Jordan is number 2.

[@klicknkreate7077]

Bill Russell won 11 titles so by that measure he's the greatest.

[@PoliticusRex632]

He also has 5 NBA MVPs. That so often goes unmentioned.

[@klicknkreate7077]

@@PoliticusRex632 Yeah, Russell was the key to their dynasty.

[@aRe_LoW]

In 1980 .....With Kareem Abdul-Jabbar home in Los Angeles resting a sprained ankle suffered the game before, rookie Magic Johnson jumped in at center, played every position and piled up 42 points, 15 rebounds and seven assists in a 123-107 victory that clinched the championship. That's ballin!!!!

[@Kaharris.96]

I'm old school....think about the finals loses that the Lakers had to play. The '83 sixers, The '84 Celtics, The '89 Pistons and the '91 bulls. This team won 5...and lost 4 to incredible opponents.

[@johng187]

89 Lakers could of won , if Magic didn’t pull a hamstring .

[@danmetz5112]

Pat Riley in a weak moment once said: "If I needed one player to make a shot to win an NBA championship, I'd take Michael Jordan. But if I needed one player to make a shot to save my life, I'd take Larry Bird. There are a lot of great players on this list and comparisons are difficult because of that. There are a few sports in which the greatest actually can be identified no matter what criteria are used. Hockey: Wayne Gretzky, Golf: Jack Nicklaus, and maybe a few others. But basketball is a tough call. There are also a few sports where the so-called "GOAT" shouldn't even be in the conversation. Boxing? Mohammed Ali is not only the GOAT, he wasn't even the best black boxer. That one would go to Sugar Ray Robinson (not Leonard). What I like about Bird, Kareem, Magic, Jordan and many of the others mentioned in basketball is that they were great SPORTS. Ali was a crybaby who made being a lousy sport OK, and who "converted" to Islam to avoid Vietnam. But if I have to make a choice about basketball players, I think I'd take Bird.

[@joemarshall4226]

The best basketball player was Bill Russell.

[@noneyabeeysnass8283]

You can’t get into Ali’s mind to reach that conclusion that he converted to Islam to avoid Vietnam

[@thepianist7084]

Another issue is that there were players who were super great for short stints, how do they play into the mix? If we're looking at players just at their peaks, then you have some who had one or two seasons of insane greatness but not longevity. For example, Moses Malone in the 1983 playoffs was simply one of the best postmen ever, but he didn't maintain that same level for long. Mark Price had a season where he shot like 48% from the 3-point line! And that was when there wasn't an offense built around that shot; many of those shots were like falling out of bounds or shot-clock pressure shots, it was insane. Anyhow, a lot of players like that, that had short stints of insanity but if were are looking at just peak performances, would be possibly considered among the greatest.

[@charleshammer2928]

​@joemarshall4226 Unfortunately, Bill was short 1 finger, for his ELEVEN Championship rings. LeBron is a joke.

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

@@joemarshall4226 Wilt got 55 rebounds against Bill

[@wymple09]

Wilt. All day long, every day. There is no comparison.

[@edmoore3111]

It's Wilt, Jabbar, Russell, Bird, Magic, LeBron and Jordan

[@garygoodin1426]

Don't forget Olajuwan.

[@user-ux2vk3lq5p]

Wilt, Jordan, jabbar, magic, bird, curry........all saved the game and changed the game. Lebron and espn ruined it. I could list 100 other players I'd rather have on a team than James. Russell was a great player in the right place at the right time, not taking anything away from him. For Wilt, they had to change the rules to make the game more difficult for him. Bird n Magic saved the nba in the early 80s. Just in time for MJ, who they had to change the rules for in order for teams not to kill him. Sorry Shaq, that's why ur not here. The original hack-a-shaq was strike-a-mike. Kobe n Duncan were great, and so is lebron, just not in that teir of Greatest. Then shined Steph Curry, who changed the game completely, pistol Pete style. Only to have everybody think they are Steph Curry, jacking up threes, destroying what's left of what Wilt, Magic, Bird and MJ built up and espn and lebron "so-so average" James have torn down the last 15 years.

[@rickmo970]

WILT Is The GREATEST individual player of All Time - A center leading the league in ASSISTS - Two back to back blocked Kareem Sky Hooks??? Get a BRAIN-DRAINz WILT Is A G-O-D-! ;-] RIP Mr. W. N. CHAMBERLAIN! ;-]]

[@user-vz1yy2zk2p]

Set aside stats and titles or rings: The fiercest competitor. The basketball assassin. No load management mentality. Players feared him. Everybody wanted to be like him. He’s known all over the world. Even your grandmother knows him. He’s the GOAT. Period.

[@robocop581]

Nobody has ever mentioned Magic Johnson was a good defender. There's a reason for that, he was average at best

[@michael-grandpamoses2571]

This conversation/argument is old and ridiculous. It's not even close, it's Wilt plain and simple. His only flaw was free throws.

[@joemarshall4226]

And not winning championships against the Celtics. If you look at the results in those mid-60s playoffs, Jerry west was the secondary GOAT after Russell.

[@LusterThomas-sl7zw]

No, championships count.

[@jimmulcahey9312]

@@LusterThomas-sl7zwbasketball is a team sport and no one player has single handily won a championship. Every one has needed help and it doesn’t matter how good an individual player is if he doesn’t have teammates that support his greatness. The best team wins- not necessarily the best player.

[@garygoodin1426]

​@@joemarshall4226Whew, Jerry West was awesome vs Celtics. Almost beat them by himself.

[@SBKid58]

If you take in to consideration the player's entire basketball career including HS, College and Pro, Kareem is by far the best player ever. It's not even close! In High School: Lew Alcindor led the Jack Donohue-coached Power Memorial Academy team to three consecutive New York City Catholic championships, a 71-game winning streak, and an overall record of 79-2. In Lew’s tenth and eleventh grades, the Power Memorial Academy basketball team won the national high school boys’ basketball championships. He averaged 30 points and 20 rebounds as a senior, shooting 75 percent from the field, while playing just half the game, or roughly 16 minutes, as a rule. Power Memorial once won 71 games in a row with Alcindor. In College: UCLA went 88-2 in the three seasons that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar played with the Bruins. UCLA went undefeated in 1967, going 30-0 and winning the national championship, then 29-1 in each of the next two seasons winning the championship in both of those seasons as well. He would have made it 4 championships in 4 seasons had they not had the ridiculous rule that Freshman could not play on the varsity team. (Who were the geniuses that made that decision?) UCLA's first loss with Abdul-Jabbar didn't come until his 44th game with the Bruins, when they fell by two points to No. 2 Houston while playing with one eye. They later crushed the Cougars in the NCAA tournament to avenge their loss. And we all know what he did in the Pros. Case Closed!

[@Mncrr]

Chamberlain never mentioned. I’m disappointed since pat played against him

[@SBKid58]

And with him.

[@garygoodin1426]

Sure did. Riley was the first draft choice of the San Diego Rockets. The Rockets lost the coin flip 2 years later that would have paired Bob Lanier and the big "E" Elvin Hayes. Lanier went to Detroit and Rudy Tomjanovich came to San Diego. I know because Hayes and Tomjanovich would spend time on the playground with us kids.

[@jameschan9634]

Magic is my #1 pick over anybody, because his leadership created unity and camaraderie. He made the game fun and kept his teammates happy. He's 'the ULTIMATE!'

[@YTBEN1045]

Magic is Goat!!!!

[@brucestalcup8314]

When you are talking GOAT, you have to do it by position, no way can you win an argument naming 1 player as GOAT

[@wendellwoods1742]

Absolutely. If you are going to pick a goat, you would have to have one for each position. How can you have one GOAT? For example, Kareem and MJ's positions required two different sets of skills, so how can you pick ONE GOAT? The great Rick Barry, who is also underrated, believes the same thing.

[@stonecoldflipper9503]

I agree. There are too many great players to pick one GOAT and today’s game is a lot different than it was 50 years ago. My top five by position are: center - Kareem, point guard - Magic, shooting guard - Jordan, small forward - Lebron, power forward - Bird.

[@garygoodin1426]

@@stonecoldflipper9503 Funny, I agree with your all time team except I replace Bird with Olajuwan. A front line of Kareem, Lebron, And Olajuwan couldn't be beat. It was hard for me to leave Bird off of this team, very hard.

[@stonecoldflipper9503]

@@garygoodin1426, Olajuwan played the center position, so I took Kareem at that position. If you are going to change the position a player played at, then I would put Wilt at power forward and take Olajuwan and Bird both off the team. One reason I like Bird so much is because he was so clutch and he hit about 90% of his free throws.

[@MAB1907]

The best can explain like this ( ) it cannot be explained, they where all great in the 70’s to 90’s they played with one thing on their minds WIN at all cost !!!

[@UFGator1972]

Boston was nothing before Russell. 13 years with Russell 12 Finals and 11 NBA Titles. I take Bill Russell over anyone, because at the he is the greatest champion of all time. Bill Russell had a record of 10-0 in game sevens in his career. Throughout Russell's career, he went 21-0 in winner-take-all games. NCAA, Olympics, best-of-5 and best-of-7 NBA series. Greatest resume of anyone! In college, he played at the University of San Francisco and won two National Championships. In High School, he won three State Championships in his three years of varsity basketball. All this couldn't be coincidence, the guy was a born winner.

[@alanduff1054]

Magic was NEVER been better than BIRD nor Jordan

[@reginaldpeters5142]

Greatest team player of all time period

[@MikeBDaniels-bv8io]

All these guys mentioned were great - and they were all different. A very good point however is that Magic could play all five positions - and did, though not regularly of course. I’ve watched the NBA since the fifties and I’d say Magic was the best player ever. Of course, if someone says Jordan or Bill Russell, others, I’ll respectfully acknowledge his choice.

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

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[@hughbennett5342]

A GOAT is the one who if on your team would affect a winning outcome more than any other player!

[@alw1268]

That describes MJ(Jordan)

[@hughbennett5342]

@@alw1268 Yes he is one of them!

[@wildariley5805]

Larry Legend

[@SBKid58]

You're incorrect on the game 6 Magic line. The correct line for Magic in game 6 of the finals is: Playing all but one minute, finished with 42 points (14-of-23 shooting from the field and 14-of-14 from the free-throw line), 15 rebounds, seven assists, three steals, and one block.

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

Wilt AVERAGED over 48 minutes for an entire season. Think about that. And by the way, that has ZERO to do with eras

[@garygoodin1426]

​@@user-jd9zm4jf3t And Wilt never fouled out of a game.

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

@@garygoodin1426 Yep...how could someone who was stronger than everyone else...and played longer than everyone else.....not foul out EVER? The body control for that is off the charts

[@mikethebeginner]

What is it about basketball that people feel there has to be a number one of all time? It’s the silliest thing, and it seems to infect bball more than most other sports. There are about thirty players now and in history that are indisputably great and each of them has their unique genius that nobody else had. That’s as fine as I need to dice it, and as fine as I want to dice it.

[@joemarshall4226]

It's fun, and helps us remember the genius each player had...and what kind of skills make a player great. Baseball is always talking about the GOAT, so is tennis and Football. Basketball is not the only one.

[@jonjon5665]

Basketball must be the only sport u watch. Happens in football, track, gymnastics, boxing, soccer , all sports practically

[@richkunkiewicz9070]

Exactly right!!!

[@chipschannel9494]

Bill Russell has the MOST rings and Wilt Chamberlain’s name is plastered ALL over the record books. ALL else is hype.

[@xhioni]

All these analysts are forgetting that this is not a Goat discussion like it CAN be for a track athlete or a tennis player. B’ball is a TEAM event. Sure, the players mentioned has amazing genetics and skills, but…..they mostly played for the best teams. Messi had Xavi, Iniesta etc at Barcelona to constantly feed him. With that he would not have his amazing stats. So.

[@richardthelionheart5594]

This is all such bunk. U ppl can't see the forest for the trees. KAREEM is clearly the GOAT !! If u were starting a team and had ur pick of anyone it'd be Kareem #1 and Russel #2

[@mykilahsenwilliamsdorsey1495]

I’ve seen all these guys. I saw Magic in college and Bird. I saw MJ win all his rings. LBJ is the best we’ve seen so far. Kareem is phenomenal.

[@jeffp53090]

Didn’t Pat Riley once said that if he had to pick somebody to take a shot to win the game, he’d take Jordan. If he had to pick somebody to take a shot to save his life, he’d take Bird.

[@MrFreshEdition]

I have been saying this for Years! Magic is the G.O.A.T. Yes, played all 5 positions at a high level. And As A ROOKIE! Against a Great 76er's Team; Dr. J, Bobby Jones, Cadwell Jones, Cheeks, and Darryl Dawkins! 42pts 15rebs and 7ast 3stls. Magic made Kurt Rambis look like an Allstar!

[@garygoodin1426]

Don't forget that Wilkes had 37 in that same game to help the cause.

[@grahamchan6327]

Most us understand that Larry the legend is the real goatus saurus rex.....lol !

[@melvinwalls1426]

They never seen the likes of MJ he was different he dominated the entire league and made the NBA must see TV*Anytime Magic and bird gave the word it should be understood*

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Would you like to go on my program and back up what you wrote?

[@whodidit99]

Wilt doesn't get the respect he deserves.

[@blakekeithley3400]

Hard to argue against Wilt as the GOAT. Bird a close second.

[@Clinetime4]

KZbin hasnt been sending me notifications from you. Ive missed the live streams. GO CELTICS

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Hello I am not sure why that is happening. Sometimes people tell me that they do not get the notifications. And thank you for liking the live streams.

[@He-Rex]

The problem with the Wilt Chamberlain case, is that his greatness didn't result in more Championships....I'm not saying he needed 6, but maybe 4 or 5. There's no one deciding factor in these arguments. The value of any particular factor depends on it's context. In the end it's all subjective.

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Would you like to go on my program and go over what you wrote then?

[@jeffrey3498]

Magic was ahead of his time. In the future all point guards will be at least 6’9”

[@noneofyourbusiness747]

I agree with Pat 100%

[@ThatGuyMalasartes]

Larry Joe, the one true goat.

[@durba8]

Came back and won all star game MVP, cmon.

[@SteveGellerMusic]

COULD Magic actually play all 5 positions? He was a point guard, and he played one very memorable and outstanding game at center, and he was a reasonably serviceable point-forward when was over the hill. But he didn't bang inside for rebounds like a real 1980's forward. He wasn't knocking down shot after shot from the outside like a 2-guard. When LeBron "plays all five positions," he actually does. He gets down low in order to guard point guards when necessary, he brings the ball up like a guard, he can hit 7 straight outside shots like a wing, he can pull up for 3 like a shooting guard, he can drive to the basket with tons of power like a 4 would, and he's strong enough to outmuscle 2/3 of the centers in the league today, especially when many are shooting outside jumpers for most of the game. Magic was theoretically capable of playing all 5 positions, because of his determination and height, etc., but he was basically a one-position player that happened to have certain unique qualities that no one else at that position has had. Also, if you look at Magic's vs. Bird's numbers, Larry pretty much dominated until he got hurt in 1989. Magic won 4 rings to Bird's 3 in that time period because the Lakers had Kareem in his amazing extended prime, and no other team did.

[@charleshammer2928]

LeBron is not even in top 10. Not a chance sorry. Be real.

[@danielboone5321]

He shouldn't have been in the top 75 tbh. He can't dribble shoot no post game and flops

[@feltonporter2246]

MJ won more Titles, in different era,than Wilt.Wilt didn't have the challenge of different players on a consistent bases, because their were less teams.

[@robertwynkoop7112]

If one uses titles to designate the “greatest” then it is not even close, Mr Bill Russell….

[@hoopaholicstickum]

Who knows what coulda been…. THAT can be said about any number of great players… but it really is moot… nobody… NOBODY will be as great as THE #1 record holder Wilt Chamberlain. Titles are not the be all end all benchmark.

[@user-ft1xf8wk9m]

thanks

[@rustyturner431]

OK... I hardy have Riley's gravitas, but I am 86 years old and I actually SAW everybody from Mikan to Lebron. To my eyes, the BEST is Wilt, with Kareem second, but close. If you just go by the number of titles, Russell is the best athlete in any sport, at any time...and it ain't close! Pretty good coach, too, something none of those other guys can claim.

[@infinitecontent8001]

I still maintain Magic is the greatest all-around player ever.

[@RockettServehard-li1do]

the best player ever now thats relative i would pick mj cuz he had swag and could back it up

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Talking about backing it up, would you like to go on my podast and back it up? You have wriitten some things that cleary show you are a Michael Jordan fan, so would oyu like to back up your takes? Most Michael Jordan fans don't like to back it up, so I won't be surprised if you don't want to.

[@user-lo3gx9lq9r]

My opinion when someone ask me who you think is the best basketball player of all time ? I answer we are lucky that eveything Larry and Magic did is recorded today so we can all agree that they are the best basketball player of all time .

In the goat debate should both Kareem and Magic get credit for the titles they share? Also, Bird only had 3, but the entirety of his career while healthy he had to compete against 2 goat candidates playing together on one team.

[@watchmanonthewall14]

There's no such thing as a GOAT in NBA history. No such thing. But there were three players in history who made their teams better, more so than any other players. Those three players, in no particular order, were Russell, Bird, and Magic. Those are at the top. Ultimate team players who raised everyone else's game.

[@waderay1392]

DJ. IS THE KILLER HAND DOWN ✋️

[@kevincolderjr5058]

Jordan Jordan and Jordan

[@RICHBLACKCOCK]

KAREEM went to 10 NBA FINALS rounds going 6 & 4. IMPRESSIVE.

[@garygoodin1426]

True. And if Magic and Byron Scott aren't injured vs Detroit, and Nixon, Worthy and McAdoo vs Philly, maybe add 2 more to that list.

[@RICHBLACKCOCK]

@@garygoodin1426 People overlook the fact that the LAKERS went to the finals 4years in a row:1981/82-1984/85. Slight transition when NN gets traded to SAN DIEGO after the 82/83 season to get SCOTT in the draft giving total reign to MAGIC running the point. Injuries unfortunatly plays a part in sports.

[@erich8770]

Magic Johnson is the best player of all times in my opinion. He took his team to the finals 9 out of 11 years when he played. Magic was a better leader than anyone else. Who was the leader of the Dream Team with all those HOFamers?

[@bevindennett]

IMO Magic is the greatest PG and the 5th best player ever. He played 13 seasons and was the best player on 3 of his championship teams, but he never won a title without Kareem.

[@1JamesHunter]

If you can score you can score... Jokic doesn't shoot a jump shot, either. It's corny saying a 6'9 man doesn't jump when he shoots. He's 6'9!

[@mickylawless1941]

Larry Legend is the G.O.A.T.!

[@metsrus]

I will always rank Magic and Larry ahead of Jordan. They can still carry a team without making it about themselves.

[@nevadadesertrat267]

Magic had 7 titles. 1 collage 5 NBA 1 Olympic. He is one of the greatest team players ever. But there is no such thing as a GOAT. He would be on my starting 5 NDR

[@garygoodin1426]

But wasnt it Wilt who said, "Kareem was the only player he ever had to ask his team for help with down low"? That should tell us something.

[@2Thes22]

Wilt was 10 years older than Kareem

[@tedfio1tedfio1]

Bird vs Magic vs Jordan lol...

[@bozo5632]

Kareem is in the club.

[@ralphthomas5131]

if it's about titles....Bill Russel had 11 rings in 13 years of play in the NBA. case dismissed if it's rings...and lot of people on celtics (8) had more than 6. Cousey had 6,

[@robertpatterson3406]

Wilt Chamberlain for the win all day every day !

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

Never. There was never a time people thought that he was better than Kareem and Wilt.

[@bk947]

You're wrong. There were plenty of people who did think that. You're just a typical Michael Jordan fan who doesn't know enough about the NBA. And you are really in love with Michael Jordan.

[@williambeckham3014]

Get ready Dan Patrick is next,,you saw it here ...😊

[@BCBlue]

As great as Magic was, he does not come close to Wilt Chamberlin.

[@leonpse]

Jordan is a much better defender than Magic.

[@user-jf7xp8fk1b]

Why does everybody always leave out West!?

[@RModillo]

Silly argument. How about Russell/Chamberlain? Or Bird, or Erving, or Kareem? And Oscar Robertson gets respect that we will probably never understand today.

[@RockettServehard-li1do]

Hes gotta pick his guy and magic is not a bad choice

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

This is a great example of a Michael Jordan fan. If someone picks Michael Jordan you guys never questoin it. But if someone doesn't pick Michael Jordan, you guys always come up with some reason. You guys never let yourselves understand that maybe someone actually picks someone else over Michael Jordan then.

[@AGregBergThing]

Bill Russell, Michael Jordan, in that order greatest of all time

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Woudl you like to debate that on my program then?

[@toddgoza3522]

From my understanding magic lacked a jumper

[@pkingperk6628]

if you didnt get to watch the guy then hes not that good. If the guy has a 40 something inch vertical in the 60s or 70s, it was different. In the 60s and 70s the goal was not 10 ft like it is today. It was ten feet high that different from 10 ft high. These guy average 30, 40 even 50 points a game. In the 60s and 70s their was only about 121 possession per game, not like today when the only 91. So the guys who go up and down the court few times and take more break are in better shape and need load management. MJ average 38 minutes per game, the far better than Wilts sorry ass who could only manage Ameer 45.8 minutes per game which is the highest in NBA history. Can we just image if Wilt could have just gotten in shape maybe would have had the sit out those 2.2 mpg.

[@fwardpty]

MJ best offensive and defensive.

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

So would you like to go on my program and prove that or?

[@jonjon5665]

Magic did fill in for capt 2 games I believe in the finals when kareem was hurt. Mj aint nvr have anything close to a kareem his entire career. For me that point cancles out.

[@charlesbromberick4247]

Magic is a reasonable choice.

[@timmckee2813]

...so...pat riley said...what...?...

[@Sunny-jz3dy]

If there going by rings .....then Bill Russell beats Jordan! LOL

[@user-jd9zm4jf3t]

Wilt. Duh

[@shellybastion9974]

There's no "best." ..It takes all kinds.

[@steph.electric]

Magic is the consummate teammate. He's better than Jordan,23 with his easy, turn around 15 foot jumpers.

[@bainer3052]

Jordan left a bad taste in Riley's mouth that he is still traumatized after all these years.

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

Both Bird and Magic conceded that Jordan was better.

[@bk947]

This is a great example of why Michael Jordan fans are the worst sports fans of all time. They always want to let you know that Magic Johnson Larry Bird Pig Michael Jordan. And the funny thing is there wrong. And the other funny thing is that even if they're right they're going to have a lot of contradictions anyway.

[@bowtieguy377]

Larry and Magic. 1A and 1B

[@curtisanthony1163]

Jordan didn't win until 1991 He not the goat .Great player couldn't beat Boston or Detroit in their prime.😢😮

[@johng187]

Magic made he teammates better .

[@Jacques-Le-Marois]

How many players could leave the league for 18 months and then return to win a further 3 titles? MJ did….

[@jessiemeredith9088]

With Dennis Rodman and Ron Harper. Without them his ring total would be 3.

[@Henry-eh2jk]

Pete Maravich

[@EndoftheTownProductions]

MJ is the GOAT.

[@theuniversegalaxynba]

Let me know if you want to go on my program and prove it then.

[@Johnadams20760]

magic was great, however, wilt is the true best of all time. and not even close. in fact, wilt at age 45 give or take 2 years playe diwth 4 UCLA freshmen agaisnt an NBA level Magic, and 4 other NBA guys that all be came all stars. in a pick up game. they playe done game wilt blocked a hook shot by magic who tried to claim it was goal tending the coash said it was a legal block. wilt said we play one more game til 12 and winner stays. wilt said there will be no more shots made in this basket, and wilt blocked EVERY SHOT. of magic's and the othe rnba guys and they won. running magic out of the gym. imagine prime wilt against any of these guys