Path of Exile 2 EA - Is Recoup Mana Good? Warbringer Build w/Alkem Eira

[@themagescorner]

Any crazy new ideas for next build? 🧙‍♂

[@Gosu_fr]

i discover u can have 135% dmg recouped as life in poe 2 and chrono pass the recoup from 8sec to 4sec xD im pretty sure the data is useless but its fun.

[@joshblahnamehere2308]

Dad build right here, love it.

[@themagescorner]

Thanks! haha

[@hagakurechan]

Interesting, do you think this will work as chronomancer as well? With the recoupe passives?

[@themagescorner]

@@hagakurechan you can try only issue is not having turtle charm so you won't block ALL hits just regular and spell projectiles. The wailing wall shield lets you block ALL hits but then no mana recoup from block hehe.

[@hagakurechan]

Seems I’m doing something wrong, when you are surrender by mobs sometime the recoup is not enough and I’m losing mana even if I’m blocking, I have around 3k mana and 80% block. Sometimes is working well and sometimes horrible. Idk what I’m doing wrong, can you help me please?

[@themagescorner]

@@hagakurechan huh that's odd, unless it's a DOT effect or u have low resists. This build works well with max resists and also recouping mana from damage. If the problem is too much initial damage, jade really helps too but normally when you are taking lots of small hits it should work fine.

[@rafaelgoncalvesdias7459]

Build idea is good but i think its better on a chronomancer

[@Donafell]

wahahaha, this is really cool

[@ivanfranebijelic7009]

I'm very curious how infernalist's pyromantic pact interacts with mana recoup and MoM. Does taking damage drain your infernal fire or fill it? Does mana recoup drain or fill it? Infernalist is supposed to have the downside of self-damage when your resources are mismanaged, but can you take advantage of that for this kind of build?

[@themagescorner]

@ivanfranebijelic7009 interesting question! Dont have an infernalist rn to test with though

[@ivanfranebijelic7009]

@@themagescorner I'll see what I can do on mine, but all I can do is proof of concept stuff, I don't have the money or the time to test how effective it can be

[@ivanfranebijelic7009]

@@themagescorner Well, this was disappointing... It looks like it just doesn't interact at all, neither MoM or mana recoup interact at all with infernal flame

[@themagescorner]

@@ivanfranebijelic7009 it only drains with time right? Hmm

[@ivanfranebijelic7009]

@@themagescorner Yep, infernal flame works as it always does, so it's only good for minions or barrier invocation builds

[@YM-ex8hh]

Can never die at all including boss wind up slam?

[@themagescorner]

I mean, turtle charm lets you block slams from bosses, and if you don't block it, that's why you jade right before the attack. So you have 5k+ HP buffer.

[@TheFavoredOne217]

What support gems do you use on your skills?

[@themagescorner]

@TheFavoredOne217 I think for the spark orb of storms part I just followed a guide for stormweaver lol maxroll.gg/poe2/build-guides/archmage-spark-stormweaver-build-guide For the encased in jade I believe I took a support gem to use life instead of mana just so I don't have a situation where I'm low on mana, need time to recoup but can't cast it.

[@mateushenriquesantos1803]

You can try thorns with this approach...

[@themagescorner]

@mateushenriquesantos1803 thought about it, but haven't seen a good thorns build yet in terms of damage

[@eduardo_lopez9]

but, if you block you don't get hit so...

[@themagescorner]

@ yeah good point, don't know if there is a way to trigger thorns on block, maybe in the future

[@interestedincphpsqlmysql4222]

@@themagescorner magma shield :) big damage if timed correctly.

[@mateushenriquesantos1803]

@@themagescorner The thorns effect trigger when you get hit, even if you block... What I think is you can handle to much hits, so you can use it to apply thorns... but is it, not so special, and I agree with you, there are not great thorns builds... but keep the idea of your build, I like it.

[@alejandronunez7650]

activate mana and life numbers.. we cant see it..

[@themagescorner]

@alejandronunez7650 1.5k life around 3k mana. Nothing amazing. Which goes to show a better geared person with at least 4k mana (normal for MoM builds) would do even better lol Although I wasn't full on energy shield (which gets converted to mana)..also got some armor going on.

[@alejandronunez7650]

@@themagescorner ah, yeah because bigger/higher numbers/mana pool is more difficult to sustain when you use mana expensive skills + you take dmg.

[@themagescorner]

@alejandronunez7650 yep and thats where jade and blocking all hits w/ mana recoup help a lot...otherwise i wouldnt be able to sustain with 3k mana (which I still believe is on the low side for this build lol)

[@hagakurechan]

So the stats on gear we are looking for is? Energy shield, mana, armor, life?

[@themagescorner]

@hagakurechan i was doing sparks build so I also had +spell or lightning levels and block chance/elemental damage on jewels. ES got converted to mana so maximum mana was important like for any MoM build.

[@brendan348]

need an actual build guide. I am rocking the same if not better gear than you and I run out of mana often and have to spam mana potions to not die.

[@themagescorner]

well if you're getting attacked by a lot of creatures you shouldn't have mana issues. on bosses what I do is jade before a big attack (like a slam) and then the mana recoup I get from that gives me some seconds to go all out on sparks. also have 40% mana reduction support on spark and mana font on orb to regen faster.

[@themagescorner]

also I am hoping to get maelstrom mana flask soon, that really helps out too...

[@brendan348]

@ I just got swarmed right now and died, and not even in a T15. it was T12. I have belt at 61%, better armour and res caps than what you have in the video. shield, 79% block chance with asc nodes. 3k mana. 20% mana recoup on chest piece corruption and 20% from extra node. So I have 100% recoup when damaged. I end up getting smacked hard lose all mana, and die before recoup happens.

[@brendan348]

It does seem to work occasionally, but it is inconsistent is the problem. If you are swarmed and you happen to hit that 80% block enough early on then you are golden and won't be killable. On the other hand if the first few hits are not blocked, the damage recoup on the mana itself is not fast enough so you take two bad hits and dead.

[@hagakurechan]

@@brendan348yes, same is happening to me. I have better gear, more mana and more recoup, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but I’m draining mana super fast also if I’m not attacking… seems is not enough the recoup