Path of Exile 2 - GGG Took Away ALOT and sold it back as difficulty

[@samodwyer1871]

I think everything you said in this video is very valid, especially that you distinguish between the game's difficulty (good thing) and it's sometimes tedious and painful gameplay loop (not a good thing). Everyone in the comments saying skill issue didn't understand your issue with the game, we ALL want this game to be good, ALL critiques can lead to a better product.

[@panzerswineflu]

@@samodwyer1871 so far (finish act 3) the only difficulty for me is gear and still balance. Yes I die a lot to bosses but a lot of it is that I can't set up my gear half decent and apparently sorc leveling is absolute horrible compared to ranger

[@Dxwill10]

just to add a different perspective: that whole 'turn your brain off' aspect you view as a positive, is the reason why I get bored with ARPGs have stopped playing them for a while now. PoE2 is the first time I'm actually having fun and not getting bored while playing one. Whereas it might lose a customer with its difficulty, it has gained at least one in me it wouldn't have otherwise.

[@zacnavein7558]

Exactlly that!!!

[@Mas-ij3ti]

Well for the vast majority of people ARPGs is about the power fantasy. The game should be hard, it should be a bit painful to start out. Once you have farmed for hours and hours and got insane gear and high level you should be able to trivialize everything. That for me is what makes it fun. Not to actually do it easily, but the journey of getting there. If that was not the endpoint i would not see the point in the journey, which is what most people also seem to think.

[@monkeybomb1232]

@@Mas-ij3ti Then you can play poe1 which still exists and will get updates.

[@Mas-ij3ti]

@@monkeybomb1232 Okay narcissist, the game will be catered to what the majority of the player base wants. Not around you. The game will be trivial and easy, one shot blowing up packs and trivializing bosses once you get good enough gear. Just like all ARPGs should be. I guess you can just go find another game to play.

[@dpolenz79]

It’s fun yes but the zones being so gigantic and repetitive and move speed nonexistent is going to kill replay value.

[@mikelitten7489]

It’s supposed to be completely different from POE1, that’s why they said they’re still going to support the first game. If it’s not for you, don’t play it. Don’t try and change it to the first game

[@JustShotsForMeh]

I think the great divide between players who have played the first game and players who didn't play the first game is knowledge about importance; for instance, when I say "My gear is weak", a new player might look at my set up and say "You got 23% fire res and 4 life on hit glove, that's fantastic!", but in reality, I know it doesn't do fuck all, it's a low roll, it's one resistance, the life on hit will never bring me value, and I can't get other mods on that particular helmet now, the glove is already BRICKED, and it's still the best shit I have and it's the reason I'm suffering! I can peer into the future of me getting folded in half wearing that piece of equipment, a new player enjoys the game because of blissful ignorance, I suffer from dark experience and knowledge.

[@grrthsquared7177]

All feed back is valid feedback, and while I strongly disagree with your take, I think you're entitled for your own perspective. I'm going to repeat what others have already said, this is just beta and they are obviously leaving plenty of room to add the variety you're hungry for. I need to say this game is having huge engagement, GGG is listening to feedback and adjusting, and many people are loving the game. It has to be emphasized that POE2 isn't a good, it isn't a fun game, it's a GREAT game, it's SO MUCH FUN. How can I make that claim? Look at the content that's created around it, the sheer amount of people playing. This game is winning. When you focus on negativity so much, it's easy to lose that FACT. I don't mean to diminish your negative critique, as I think what you're saying needs to be listened to and hopefully GGG will listen to your chief point of adding more variety. My counter point is that I know they're going to add more variety, you know they are, it's going to happen. Early access, they're killing it though, that's just a fact

[@originaljunglist93]

I'm sort of between his take and your take. However, it's only killing it because it's only been a week and the streamers aren't going to stop overhyping because they are banking their careers on it. At current state, it is just a bit too tedious. People aren't going to do multiple characters every league, league after league with the game in this state. It is also a major departure from ARPG. Maybe it will succeed and thus create a new genre or subgenre, which is great if that happens. ARPG it currently is not and definitely not fun if that is what you are expecting.

[@homopersicum1850]

As someone relatively new to the ARPG genre, POE 1 never really appealed to me exactly because of how braindead it is. So I really hope they don't turn this game into another mindless blasting loot fest. Right now I'm actually engaged in the fighting. The loot is more than enough to proceed at a fast pace imho, don't mean to say it to piss you but honestly your build is horrible, maybe that's why you are disliking the game so much.

[@ggzii]

The build is actually solid and is working in maps. When you get to tier 10 mapping please update this comment because honestly, the game isn't in a good spot.

[@namejudge9136]

i think what you want is just poe but graphics update. Which isnt wrong, but idt thats what GGG wants. I hope they draw a clear line between poe 1 and 2. I dont know what the plan is for poe 2, but i sure as hell hope it doesnt become poe 1 with better graphics.

[@owa1985]

What I actually wanted was poe1 but melee is not shit. It's no longer poe1 sure, but melee is still shit.

[@namejudge9136]

@@owa1985 how is melee shit? i dont play melee in both 1 and 2 actual question.

[@owa1985]

@namejudge9136 Melee is shit in poe1 because they forgot to make the characters walk forwards while hitting. As a result, it feels clunky af unless you use a "melee" skill like Sunder, flickerstrike, or god forbid Smite. In poe2, melee is shit because of body blocking. And they didn't really fix anything with the animations. But all that means is that I can resume telling people not to build melee and nothing really lost.

[@tonyfabiano3053]

I 100% agree with everything you said!

[@iqrt5705]

Imagine you get the charge per second on that augment :D but you were confident about the outcome which proves your point about the game. I genuinely have the same take about this game. Playing ranger so pretty much the same but different flavour ice-cream .

[@codyschott6083]

I legit just deleted like 20 paragraphs of text pretty much glazzing you and explaining how and why j agree with legit everything you said in this video. Ill just keep it short and simple- im greatfull there are strong people still in this world that are not sheep and will speak there mind. I couldnt have said what ive been feeling these last few days any better then what you just put fourth. Thanks for taking the time to put your opinion out there, i really appreciated it.

[@ggzii]

Honestly the amount of people that get buthurt when a random guy critiques something is laughable. I bet they won't be rude in Krips comments despite him literally saying this game isn't fun lmao

[@Yayadays111]

As a new player, a lot of what you saying can be summarised as : I like the other game better. The reality is this is why the game isn’t replacing poe1, and the amount of system changes are plus and minus. The last thing I want is another brain dead game. if I wanted that I would go back to d3 and get my loot/mob clearing spam.

[@ggzii]

Very wrong

[@Yayadays111]

@ No I am not. Poe is hardly the first game with a sequel that is very different than the original. StarCraft BW and SC2 had these endless discussions on why one is better than the other. the BW elitism wasn’t always wrong, but few moved from SC2 to BW no matter how much better they think it is. Because the games are just different, and meant to be, pointing it out why it’s different all comes down to “I like the other game better”

[@dimmiandreus392]

I agree that difficulty have problems. Too easy is boring while too challenging is frustating. The ideal a middle term where you have just a small amount of challenge. PoE 2 is too far in challenging scale making it frustating. The ideal is a middle ground with just a small amount of challenge.

[@CWGriswald1492]

I'm just not having fun with the game. Its not a difficulty thing. I just don't like the gameplay and find it boring. Find it slow and I hate having to dodge all the time. I wish there was a hybrid between D4 and POE 2. I like the gameplay of D4 but I like the difficultly and depth of POE 2. Overall...I had more fun playing D4 season 5. Please dont hate me

[@aoaoaoyt]

Game still needs to be polished and it's great that you give your feedback and hopefuly GGG takes notes. I am not going to defend the game and say it's early access/beta/closed beta or whatever. We've been giving the same feedback about PoE and they did not listen, just transfered mechanics from poe to poe2 without any problem being fixed, which means they need to work on this game a lot and we can only hope they will listen and do it good this time, else poe1 is just more polished but also more complex game.

[@djphllps]

Agreed there are some issues...the gems need to be altered they sre too locked down....id rather level them ...and we need more universally useable ones ..... pacing is also off for mapping agreed.....and i want to be able to make a build that feels powerful by end game or why did i just put in All the time and effort where is my payoff

[@dshearwf]

People in the comments still playing the campaign need to realize that campaign gameplay has absolutely nothing to do with the mapping endgame, except for the absurdly and comically large maps. Mapping in PoE2 is tiring and boring. Your eyes are glued to the edge of the screen, because THE ONLY hazard in high tiers are ANY mob types that have a charge or shoot projectiles. Those enemies hitting you from OFFSCREEN at any point in the map, while a map takes legit 7-10 minutes is just absolutely horrible gameplay. Unique "bosses" are a fucking joke in this game. While they look cool in a campaign context, in maps they are just a free loot pinata. Now I didn't expect anything for this EA, but they should have postponed the release until more skill gems are finished. The current selection is way too small for any combinatorics to matter and you can easily see that legit every (weapon) class boils down to a singular build and playstyle. Also fully agree that the new gem system is in every way inferior to PoE1's gem system.

[@Brzbrngr]

Just go play Poe1 then or other mindless ARPGs while listening to music/podcasts. What's the point of them just making that game again? We already had that for YEARS. I love the direction they took of PoE2. I'm so done with the Poe1/Diablo formula.

[@rileystrom8530]

"I have to ask myself: Do I think this game is fun? If I had never played Path of Exile 1 and this is my experience of playing the campaign, would I carry on playing the game? I don't believe I would." This isn't poe1, if you don't enjoy the campaign, what makes you think you're going to enjoy the endgame? I have 5k hours in 1, but it's very clear to me that the campaign is a completely different beast, and way more representative of the game as a whole (because it is most of the whole at the moment!). I respect that the whole 'its ea what did you expect' defense is tired, but that doesn't mean that all criticism is valid either. Despite what you seem to think, your vision of what you expected the game to be and what you want the game to evolve into is completely different than GGG's and the new player bases vision, and if you don't find it fun, then that's okay. Maybe someday poe1 will have a worthy rival, but as it stands, 2 is different enough to stand alone, as that is by design.

[@ggzii]

Well Krip seems to share a very similar opinion

[@reesehardin570]

Krip loves to turn his brain off and close his eyes to enjoy games

[@SlamDance87]

So for ur complaints as far as rn.. in the Poe2 we’re still missing a lot of support gems and skill gems form 6 other classes to choose from so there may be some other shit like blood rage and lighting shield or some nutty shit u can pick from and the campaign will get easier once the game is out and ppl find the best routes and builds to blast thru it no problem.. my only complaint big complaint is the passive tree right now it’s so fuckn bland and generic af that once u figure it out there is nothing to it. And I think they could of made some of the skill gems more interesting like arc should chain 5 times off rip ball lighting should get aoe and zap frequency the higher it goes exct contagion should be a small aoe and as the gem levels its aoe get bigger or when it pops the aoe is gets bigger essence drain should automatically pierce build into the skill idk the flow of the game seems off the ranger poison skills are like the most boring bland shit ever where’s scourge arrow where’s caustic arrow acid arrow why does the evade shot thing have to be a ice skill? I feel like the game is missing 30 starter gem skills for evey class will see on launch I guess.. I want more options at lvl 1 other then poison arrow or lighting arrow having to wait till 24 or 32 or some shit for anything else jsut feels bad.. then by that time ur locked in on one of the two starting skills or u have to punishing urself waiting on applying ur passives or suffer a respec and be broke shit needs more skills gems at lvl1

[@snozbucket]

I remember when people gavbe d4 shit for not being able to see ground effects but hell playing a infernalist minion witch, I can't see shit on the ground half the time lmao.

[@euanskii2050]

The game shouldn't be mind numbing yes we want to feel strong but we want some difficulty too. I do think though we should get alot cheaper respecs in early access or for free as we all just want to test things and if they change alot of aspects of a build we should be able to switch easier.

[@ruukinen]

If your argument is, people wanna play braindead builds and that is why POE1 got popular, then why is the early access for POE2 retaining double the player amount POE1 had to build up to?

[@ramz1937]

Well because the game is tedious and a lot of people haven't even got to maps lol. Please don't talk about player retention after a week where most people haven't even reached end game (the main reason people play aRPGs) Give it at least a month or 2.

[@ruukinen]

​@@ramz1937 " (the main reason people play aRPGs)" See this is why I can't take you and the video creator seriously, you make assumptions about "the people" without any stats to back up your claim, as if your opinions align with "the people". Seems like the main reason people play arpgs is whatever POE2 is doing since it has twice the player count. On an early access title.

[@ramz1937]

@@ruukinen Do you think most people play modern arpgs for the campaign rather than the end game? If you give me one modern aRPG that has a lot of players and people play more for the campaign than the endgame I'll be surprised.

[@ruukinen]

@@ramz1937 Alright, give me the criteria based on which you decide what people are playing the ARPG for. I'll wait.

[@ramz1937]

@@ruukinenWell I think it’s quite obvious, if an aRPG game retains a high player base over a long period of time then it’s evident that they play it for the end game. Singleplayer/Campaigns games have a track record of getting a high amount of players for a month or two and then falling off hard in terms of players, which is fine because people play the campaign once or twice and they’re done, there are a few exceptions such as Elden Ring but that is generally the rule. Other games with high player bases and high viewership are usually games that have a high re-playability value such as MMOs, E-Sports games and most modern aRPGs that are end game focused such as PoE 1, Diablo 4. Your turn now, please give me one modern aRPG that has a high playerbase and is mainly played for the campaign.

[@juniior1996]

Dude basically wants to play PoE 1...

[@ramz1937]

Just because POE 1 has already solved a lot of issues in POE 2 doesn't mean he should just go back to POE 1 and not criticise POE 2. If you are not criticising POE 2 when it needs to be, you are doing a disservice to the game, EA is literally used for this reason, listening to feedback and making the game better. The stuff he mentioned about horrid map layouts and also the fact the maps are massive are valid and should not just be replied to with "just go play POE 1 dude" You know it, I know it and everybody knows it, this game eventually will replace POE 1, they will live side by side for now but we all know their main focus will be on POE 2, so it's good to criticise it to make it better. Just because you like being as slow as a snail and running around maps forever doesn't mean others do and doesn't mean they shouldn't voice their opinion. There are a lot of things POE 2 does amazing and there are also a few things it does fucking horribly, those should be fixed and if not, the game will not thrive.

[@codyschott6083]

This dude juniior didn't watch the fuckin video obviously...

[@tonyfabiano3053]

I am so tired of this type of comment. THAT'S NOT IT!!. I played God of War 2018 and wanted a sequel for a new story and setting etc.I got that sequel and it was awesome. Had they changed the 2nd game to play more like Elden Ring with that kind of difficulty then the fan base of GOW 2018 would have felt cheated by the sequel but they stayed true to GOW. I played and beat Elden Ring so yes POE 2 does feel like that to me if I don't have a meta build. So they completely restructured the type of game. That's not a true sequel for fans of the 1st game.

[@ageorgiev89]

Never played poe1 but i am a hc d2 player. This game gives a lot of d2 vibes but also is missing a lot of what makes d2 fun. The crafting system feels a lot like d3 itemasation which I disliked. You just want rares with certain mods and that's all. I don't know why it's so hard to replicate the feeling of d2 itemization (which was not perfect either but much better). We there are no set items, no crafting where you can actually get a full item instead of 1 mod at a time on top of a rare item, no rune words..

[@erlend2865]

Damn is that your build? no wonder you arent having fun, just hang in there buddy, soon maxroll will have builds you can use "to blast maps" ;)

[@bighosnl]

yeah this guy just cries about game being difficult.

[@bighosnl]

I strongly disagree with your take, why play a game where you do not do anything remotely challenging. POE2 is so much better then 1 because you need to think before engaging mobs. You cannot just plough through everything. It makes you really feel powerful when you eventually can do that and it makes it a lot more rewarding. I really hope they do not change direction. Theres tons of easy games out there. go play those. As for your complaints about build variety. the game is in EA, its not even released. Ofcourse you cannot do as much as in POE1 with 10 year of deving. Your such a doomer man. So little faith in the devs that have constantly proven they are capable devs. Give it time.

[@ramz1937]

You're not engaging with them though, you're literally just kiting and spamming dodge so you don't get one tapped. Kripp said the same thing. Answer this for me, in a game where you can build defensively (and you do), is it a good game mechanic to be able to be one shot by most things (in high tier maps ofc) ? If you said no, you currently disagree with the way POE 2 is. If you said yes then I don't know to to tell you lol. Imagine in an RPG game where you build to do something specific and it just doesn't work. sounds like bad game design to me. Don't get me wrong, POE 2 does some things amazingly but it also does a few things fucking HORRIBLY. If these are not voiced by players during EA, then they are doing a disservice to the game.

[@bighosnl]

@@ramz1937 it is good game design, means you need to grind more or outsmart the mob. Git gud.

[@ramz1937]

@ Yeah man, out smarting a mob by just running backwards and kiting is such engaging and awesome gameplay. Getting one tapped when you have the adequate gear and stats that should be able to deal with it is PEAK game design.

[@purple6419]

@@ramz1937 if you want POE1 then play POE1

[@ramz1937]

@@purple6419 but I don’t want PoE 1 otherwise I’d play PoE 1. I want a better PoE 2 :)

[@SlamDance87]

Poe1 for a experienced player usually has about 2 weeks of clapping then it falls off into meta crafting and juicing maps and hustling the trade board so u can craft all ur gear the game part of the game was over once u had map completion the rest is micromanagement to one shot pinnacle bosses with no purpose other then u did it in 1 1000th of a second any game with out balanced PvP or a reason to actually get better and be the best you have no task n purpose other then to exist in the game .. reason why Diablo2 hung around for 25 years is cuz u dont have to play evey season cuz u can build PvP character and earn ur place in the game with trophy items and it shows in PvP ..that’s why d3 was fun for what it was u had a goal task n purpose clap cheeks see yourself on the leaderboard.. d2 mf and PvP.. poe1 and d4 suffer from the same shit now poe2 will fall into that what’s the point category

[@sproc01]

i feel like people are overselling the game, the combat on my sorc felt so boring

[@bighosnl]

because zooming over a map 1shotting everything not seeing what you do because of 100000 particles is fun.

[@ggzii]

​@@bighosnlwait till you get to high tier maps, that's exactly what the game is, at late game it's worse than PoE1 for speed and effects

[@panzerswineflu]

I'd been saying since archenemisis and rutheless came out that it was the blueprint for poe2 and hated it, lost all interest in the game from that moment. I decided to give it a try but so far leveling has been a slog for me, not because of creature / boss / mechanic difficulty but that i could never gear anything half decent

[@bighosnl]

Check vendors, thats why. I have lvled all characters to 50 by now and thats the secret. Vendors = gear. And use your orbs.

[@panzerswineflu]

@bighosnl yeah I check nearly every level. Used up my orbs first two acts. Trying to figure out how to get exalts to buy on trade.

[@ggzii]

It's funny how hated archnemisis was but that's what Poe is now. Eventually people will wake up and realise big changes are needed

[@bighosnl]

Still watching your video, you completely play the game wrong. You use a loot filter and leave all blues on the floor yet those are super valuable in POE2. all my bis items started as blues. Check vendors and roll blues and you will realise that getting strong items is easy af.

[@ggzii]

I am NOT playing the game in this clip lmao

[@bighosnl]

@ then tell the person playing lol. If you do what I said your loot issues are gone.

[@ggzii]

​@@bighosnlthis was me afk in a zone whilst chatting, I'm not playing optimally or doing maps while chatting lol. You probably haven't even done a high tier map yet.

[@Paranoid89x]

I understand the concerns but the game is not even a week old, they will add/fix stuff. POE1 Was even worse when it came out. The "concerns" that we have now are nothing and are easy fixed. This is the first time we played POE2 we are not going to blast the acts like in POE1, how was your first time playing POE1? WE had to play POE1 1-3 acts for years 3 TIMES to get to maps. People think this Early Access Version of POE2 is the final product, chill out for now if you are not enjoying it at the current state, go play something else and comeback when its 1.0.

[@AFel-pp1hp]

Best analysis yet

[@fiveam8626]

doomer tears

[@Narnyreloaded]

You young people. Just like to turn off your brain and go easy mode. Im 49, and honestly there is nothing hard about this game. You guys just have no patience , no brains, and this is why the world is how it is now.

[@bighosnl]

Im 27, I dont agree with this guy at all. Game isnt too hard at all. Sure sometimes you die but you think how to solve the issues and solve it. Beat the boss and feel better for it. Why play games without any challenge. Its so dumb when a boss is like the mega villain and he dies in 3 hits without any mechanics.

[@VTAcraft]

The whole point of ARPGs is to use your brain to solve the puzzle of a great build, with the reward being feeling like a god in combat. Making combat more active/challenging kind of defeats the purpose of an ARPG.

[@Narnyreloaded]

@@bighosnl well said

[@ggzii]

Bro I'm not young lmao

[@Narnyreloaded]

@@ggzii That's even worse then lmao, Bro.....

[@colto2312]

"poe2 will fix everything" - Chris Wilson

[@bighosnl]

and he was right, game is way better then POE1 for 99% of the world.

[@colto2312]

@@bighosnl We'll see how that pans out financially in a year. You gonna play through that campaign 4 times a year? Because that's the sales pitch of poe

[@bighosnl]

@ yeah, it’s easy af

[@colto2312]

@@bighosnl you think 99% of the world is going to play and pay 4 times a year for this experience? how many replay darksouls 4 times a year?

[@bighosnl]

@ tons of people play souls likes multiple time a year, ive completed elden ring twice last 3 Months alone.

[@nikolatorgross]

This is not POE2, this is early access to POE2. That is what early access is for. Dont blame but try to give suggestions... they listen to you. They listened already you have 0 chactersize now and roll through map without problems

[@decai6899]

I dont agree with you at all. You talk about the game being immensley difficult, and yeh its more difficult that normal arpgs. My first character it took me some tries, now my second character, a monk which is relatively weak early game compared to ranged for example, im just blasting through everything, because i know the mechanics, i know what gear to pick up, check the vendors etc so the 3 month cycle wont be a problem down the line.

[@cmy4418]

He didn't say it's difficult but repetitive and unfun

[@decai6899]

@@cmy4418 repetetive? whats repetetive ? Bosses? literally every one is different? enemies? Literally every area pretty much has unique monsters. And YES he did say its difficult but okay

[@DZLWZL]

And yeah in a league-cycle game theres no fuckin way i'm gonna level multiple characters thru the campaign. Sad because I liked rerolling 5+ builds per league to do 40/40 challenges in poe1

[@bighosnl]

they should get rid of leagues anyway. Just make actual content for the game. Leagues is what holds arpgs back always has. Nobody likes starting over again. It just because devs never add content to their arpgs except a new act.

[@colto2312]

@@bighosnl leagues is what funded poe2 in the first place. you are patently wrong on every level

[@bighosnl]

@ yet its also what people hate about the game and arpgs as a whole.

[@colto2312]

@@bighosnl who are you to speak for the people?

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

I understand the idea of people playing sub-optimal builds, but yours is terrible. POE2 isn't for the people who want to turn their brain off, or for the people who want to zoom, that's why POE1 remained stand-alone. The tree feels boring because it's all % based increases, which makes gear extremely important. You can get 200% increased lightning damage, but if your staff has a 1-7 lightning damage roll it's not going to make a difference. Stop talking about ruthless, this is nothing like ruthless at all. Good rares are easy to identify, you'll come across the tiered drops in end-game. You can meta craft to maintain a single base item. But honestly, so much of what you've said seems to come down to you playing a bad build, try re-rolling to something different. I do agree that the skill system and tree seems to lock you into archetypes, which I'm hoping is somewhat solved once the remaining classes and weapon types are in the game. I.E melee range when spear is added.

[@ggzii]

"Stop talking about ruthless, this is nothing like ruthless at all." - How many alcs have you for completing the campaign? do you have a movement skill? are there a lack of drops? are trahs monsters harder then bosses, yes

[@gsczo]

Movement skill for general movement spamming is trash, that alone would be a deal breaker, movement should accomplish some combat advantage in your build and that's fine, a build for function rather than pure min-maxing, whereas PoE1 just completely lost its soul when they didn't foresee the game's future and progression and that's clear as day when you watch old PoE1 videos prior its release, PoE2 gives them a chance to make a great game rather than cater to the wrong audience of people. Trash mobs are fine, rare mobs are tough though but it seems intended, that'll probably become more refined in the future. And drops are also fine, maybe some more currency and and big reduction to the respec cost to accommodate more mistakes and build experiments overall, but the drops are fine and I don't think a game looks great when the ground is flooded with crap to the point where it's literally unviable to play with massive loot filters

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

@@ggzii Learn to make a build before you complain next time.

[@DAJANITORRS]

Why y’all want this to be Poe 1 2.0 with a graphic update. Blasting through maps like you said “Turning off my brain with music playing”. Just play Poe 1 if you really feel this way about the game Poe 1 servers is still up and gonna still have a dedicated team bringing content to it. Poe 2 isn’t as equal to Poe 1 they’ve said it’s gonna be a difference experience. So I’ll say what most people need to hear. Every game is not for every body.

[@EnjoyGengar]

They promised ez 7 link builds. Where are 7 links? Links not found. Also there is trade to get exactly what you want. Also in maps dead is map gone :D. Any feedback is good feedback because EA.

[@ggzii]

I think they have REALLY overestimated their player base, we can ALL sweat and micro, but PoE is the chill game we all enjoy after work/stress. Now it's just 24/7 focus or your die and the map is gone

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

Corrupting a gem can add 1 to slots, so 6+1 = 7.

[@colto2312]

imagine defrauding millions and then blaming the investors

[@nysander2]

I agree totally!! You made good points. 👍 I am still trying to play cause i'm bored atm, but tbh I will be a happy man as soon as LE or POE1 gets new content.

[@brice9013]

Ngl yall just kind of suck. Builds are blasting and mapping just fine its a monumental skissue on your part, and i a was a huge hater day 1, but then i got good

[@jovo9000]

dude if you liked poe 1 because it helped you shut your brain off, then just play poe 1.

[@ggzii]

@@jovo9000 No thanks 👍

[@jovo9000]

@ggzii lol then dont complain lmao

[@arexdeem7307]

100% spot on. For me, PoE 2 is a great game, but it's more of a one-off-finish the campaign and forget it. The full enjoyment of pace and braindead blasting are what I like, and at this moment in time, PoE 2 is not delivering that and maybe never will. So, PoE 1 all the way for me.

[@santipenalver3136]

If you like to be braindead you can do it on PoE1

[@panzerswineflu]

@@santipenalver3136 yeah that's what they said

[@Zilox1203]

Hopefully they just do in PoE2 what diablo II did. Just release campaign expansions so people play again, with new classes.

[@TyrantGamers]

just ask them to add the reverse ruthless mode and call it like easy mode lol

[@erlend2865]

This is perhaps the greatest feat of poe2, they managed to seperate them so that you guys who are missing poe1 in poe2 just have to go back and play in a timemachine (poe1) because they are making a clear distinction between the games and their path forward. Stay braindead in the past

[@muratkaraaslan7432]

First of all; its Early Access. Secondly; COPIUM. I'd rather have the game start out as this, than to have a repeat of the bloated uncleaned leagues upon leagues of content and powercreep of PoE 1. This is also how PoE 1 started out in the beta, so I believe its a timid and reserved starting point that can only IMPROOOOVE.

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

100% Getting the core of the game solid before adding bloat is the goal

[@bighosnl]

this guy played poe1 for ages he said yet he cant make a decent build. Only cry that hard isnt fun. He wants to turn his mind of. What a retarded opinion to have. Whats next, enable cheat console so you can no longer die? Point of a game is to overcome a challenge. If there is non why play.

[@TaZerrHD]

this game is absolutely dead on arrival i don't get why anyone, or even if anyone ever asked for this

[@sirrubbers5797]

😂😂😂😂 ya no its not

[@TrollstormLO]

not gonna focus on personal feelings about the game cuz to each their own. The important thing people are forgeting to consider, or doing on purpose for engagement, is that ... This is early access, which in reality means, this is still in beta. the game isn't tuned, balanced, polished and, more importantly, power crept to oblivion like poe1. Just look how poe was on beta, which was "early accessed" also paying for it. not only the game was clunky, slogged, and it was even slower. the pace the game develops as you gear and make a reasonable build, its fast. yeah, not as fast as poe1, but hey hey hey... this is not poe 1, it isnt supposed to be poe1. it is a new game and it will be different when the game is fully released.

[@ggzii]

People like myself dont want PoE1 but we dont want to be sweating 24/7 to simply progress in maps/ascendancys. It's not a chill game anymore which alot of people will agree was a major factor in playing poe for so long. I dont like pvp, fifa, cod that stuff, I want to chill, not fight a rare that can 1 shot me and delete my map.

[@Just-A-Casual]

People are pissed off, not because of the nerfs because it was simply too OP, but they nerfed it without compensation and they didn't just nerfed some of it to balance. No they nerfed into by 90%, completely into the ground and ruining the build for many.

[@TrollstormLO]

@@ggzii poe 1 became a chill game after thousands of hours the community put into the game creating 3rd party tools and youtube guides and... nerfs, balance and power creep that came along the way in the 13 years of endurance the game had. poe 2 is less than a week into open beta and most of the negative feedback has been that well, the game doesnt feel like poe 1. really, couldnt you get it from the trailers...

[@TrollstormLO]

@@Just-A-Casual well, then they aren't used to what it is supposed to be an early access...nerfs and balancing will keep happening as they finish the game for actual release. and lets keep track of it, how long it takes for people to advance thru the campaing when the game is out and free, with tons of videos and op builds developed...

[@JasonChowTV]

if it's not fun means it's NOT FUN. U ARE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND THE GAME LIKE A SPINELESS FANBOY

[@cyclinghousemusic792]

Tell me you're a diablo player without telling me you're a diabolo player...

[@MadmanThreeTwoTwo]

GGG devs themselves was a Diablo players and wanted create a game as dark as Diablo 2 they even pose as the spiritual successors of Diablo 2 so man u are coping.

[@cyclinghousemusic792]

Bruh, I ain't reading all that

[@MadmanThreeTwoTwo]

@@cyclinghousemusic792 u read it and trying to dodge the facts.

[@fetidedlegion901]

Totally agree I hope they fix these problems but with it being sold as complexity It probably won’t be. Ruthless 2.0

[@JasonChowTV]

no there's only 1 build called grenadier and you can only walk in this game. d4 better

[@iury472]

i mean i dont think it is taking that long to gear up i finish the campain in like 30 hours on my fisrt try. i am blasting maps. there are many builds with one button play style, there is build running gun like the mercenary. if you are looking to play poe 1 in poe 2 this is exacly the reason why they have made a diferent game. just play poe 1. for me dont even want to go back to play poe 1 anymore just becouse the gameplay is so braindead

[@ggzii]

PoE1 is braidead, but this isn't hard, it's just clunky and annoying.

[@JeopardsRune]

Nah.

[@DZLWZL]

My guy you said it exactly correct. I dont understand why they would want to roll back all of the things that made us love Poe 1, in favor of these giant boring zones, devoid of cool stuff. No real crafting. The game isn't hard. Tedious is a good word for it. Playing an ice monk, none of the bosses do any mechanics and they just get frozen and die in 15 seconds. But the zones and maps to find them take like 40 minutes of just boring packs of monsters .

[@decai6899]

thats why there is still POE1, you can go back to it if you dont like this one lol

[@iqrt5705]

Imagine you get the charge per second on that augment :D but you were confident about the outcome which proves your point about the game. I genuinely have the same take about this game. Playing ranger so pretty much the same but different flavour ice-cream .