Path of Exile 2 has a Problem

[@GreenStreetSlim]

I don't want to engage with a trade website for loot, EVER. If thats the best way to gear up, youre loot/craft system is broken imho. I should not have to leave the game to gear up. What kinda backwards AF logic is that lol

[@DarkPassenger]

I completely agree. It's nonsense. I like playing SSF, and they're doing everything possible to funnel us all into trading unfortunately.

[@rla9889]

💯

[@pokermitten9795]

There is a market for games with an economy. Modern websites make it so much better than the old days of d2 and chat/forum scrolling. There are people who want this, and this game is a love letter to D2 as it stands.

[@fiftypercentgrey]

@@pokermitten9795 I dunno. They clearly said what they wanted and they already made an adjustment into that direction. So it is not the wildest speculation that they actually want people to craft more and might tweak the game further to get there. Its a bit stupid since LE has a pretty smart crafting and an even smarter economy/loot-finding system so it would probably be a good idea to get some ideas from there and build on that to make it something fitting for PoE2.

[@Mystra]

​@@pokermitten9795atp they might as well just have an auction house? Trade websites are outdated

[@saiuan4562]

Just for reference, on how bad it is right now: I have 72 lesser jewelers orbs. 0 greater jewelers orbs, and 0 perfect jewelers orbs in my inventory right now.

[@smezbuilds9897]

Same dude. An entire week and zero greater let alone a perfect.

[@Mittoju]

you can increase your rarity of jewelers orb in atlas

[@smezbuilds9897]

@@Mittoju local knowledge has done absolutely fuck all for me. I took it off after 3 days targeting grass maps and getting 3 lesser jewellers in total. It just screws up other map weightings

[@tom-nl7fg]

perfect jewelers orbs = a 6 link in poe1 most of the time not stop screaming ... baby

[@guillsevilla]

Can it be combined??

[@TetFeMal]

There's something really terrible about defeating a big boss and not being excited to know what it dropped.

[@buzzdx]

yeah it should at least drop a rare and maybe a bit of currency on top. but for the love of arpgs, don't replicate the ridiculous loot explosions of d4 into this game. if that's what people want, d4 is right there for them.

[@nintenjamaster5270]

Loot drop sucks. There isn't crafting, it's just looting with extra steps. Crafting has a path to a desired outcome. This is just RNG in layers.

[@chasehunt4415]

Go to d4 then.

[@Mike-wc3jo]

@@chasehunt4415so bosses shouldn’t drop good stuff 🤡

[@tylerulfmann4586]

@@nintenjamaster5270definitely need prefix selection There needs to be more ways to tweak and gain materials as well since I feel like in act 3 I’ve hit a wall trying to get over chaos ascendancy and just can’t get enough strength to keep up with scepter upgrades Which a witch not having access to spirit up is just criminally stupid choice

[@verde5738]

The only aRPG that got Loot and Crafting right was Last Epoch, and GGG should be copying their homework.

[@dumaskhan]

honestly i am surprised they didn't borrow some ideas from the other aRPGs. you can see a lot of vestigial systems that are only there because it has always been that way.

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Well they also copied their 1 death per map thing and their “targeted rare” objective

[@Doggettxx]

Yea it feels like they were afraid to go too far from poe1, the system in Last Epoch is so much better, hope they copy some of those ideas during early access

[@Rukkard]

Last Epoch has the absolute best crafting system in the genre.

[@stuka80]

LE's crafting was really good for the most part, however, the loot drops in that game was insane.

[@bellidrael7457]

They keep talking about how often you are finding and using crafting items. I'm almost done with Act 2 on my monk, and I have gotten like... 3 of the blue to yellow crafting items? So their idea of "Finding crafting items ALL THE TIME" and "Using those crafting items WAY MORE OFTEN" is... you play the game all day, you maybe get like, 5 of them, you upgrade 5 items, they all end up sucking, and that's it, that is your loot for the day. I am also annoyed they have the balls to even CALL it crafting. You aren't crafting anything, you are upgrading by adding random modifiers to items. 'Crafting' implies you going out, gathering resources, and deciding what to turn those resources into. This is RNG Gacha BS where you are just rolling the dice until you get something good. That's not crafting. No game has ever called a system like that crafting. Stop calling it crafting. It's 'randomly upgrading'. They basically tried to reinvent the wheel here. Killing a boss or an elite, having items spill out onto the ground, and having those items have value beyond 'what they could potentially turn into if you get good rolls'... that's the whole point of loot. And they completely did away with that in favor of a completely nonsensical system nobody likes where there is absolutely 0 excitement to loot appearing when killing a boss, because it isn't meant to be good. All in all, in Diablo, a legendary drops and I go 'OOOOOH, WHAT IS IT'. In PoE2, any quality item drops and I go 'Don't care, next fight'.

[@human-animalchimeraprohibi2143]

Have you been disenchanting the rare gear you find on the ground?

[@ralphjune9798]

hell yeah, im glad to see the d4 fans are starting to get fed up and go back to their slop

[@codmwtf8423]

let d4 players complain and go back to their d4 loot bonanza lolol

[@JB-rn1kd]

I can see all the worthless tryhards are crying about facts. Loot in this game is lower than dog shit.

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

I feel Diablo 4 has less RNG with their Tempering and master working mechanics and it saddens me to say that.

[@KaNe-007]

Im level 72, ssf just got to maps, and am still using a 144 dps crosssbow as I've not gotten or found or been able to craft a better one. bricked all I've had that were better. I dont like trading in games, but this is crazy and im really starting to struggle in teir 1 maps

[@deivispotijenko7281]

same for me

[@tyrrollins]

How do you keep bricking a better cross bow? If you're that desperate don't corrupt them. All you need is a blue with a +% and +flat and improve quality.

[@onesolopolo4194]

@@tyrrollins to be honest I got lucky with mine with +flat phys, +flat fire and 81% phys in act 5. It has 250 damage and I’ve tried to get flat phys and % damage on about 20 expert crossbows and bricked all of them with chaos orbs. It’s RNG. Some people are going to struggle more than others.

[@onesolopolo4194]

@@Heavymetal16 getting to end game and struggle with their 1 maps shouldn’t be a thing. The game is _objectively_ broken with loot and drops right now. That’s not an opinion of mine, that’s an opinion of every sweat that plays this game. Every pro, every KZbinr and streamer who’s got 400 hours in this game said the same thing. On top of that the devs went out of their way to say this wouldn’t be an issue.. yet here we are. Even if he gets this bow and makes it to T15 maps now he has to worry about the armour problem in this game. It’s early access so pretending like every problem is the players fault just makes you a delusional elitist.. and so what if he’s new and has t figured everything out yet - the game doesn’t explain anything to a new player so being a pretentious prick with an attitude is totally uncalled for. Get a girlfriend bro. Touch grass.

[@PairOfSocksGaming]

@@Heavymetal16 bro said he wanted an upgrade and ur dumbass concluded "he must want the best possible Crossbow" how did u pull that off

[@devinguy]

Cool stuff dropping on the ground gives dopamine, only finding uniques for other classes and upgrades from vendors does not.

[@Augury666]

For others classes or not, unique are 98% garbage, stash decorations. A reason why i quit

[@gabrielbachman6154]

Finding another item for another class that sells for a Divine does. And you Do NOT want to constantly hit the dopamine button,it dumbs down games.

[@krymz1]

That's why i level a couple characters at a time. It makes the beginning easier for those characters when you find sick items but for an other character. Maybe I could have more cuurrency if I concentrated on just one class, but I only do that when I already tried a lot of different builds with all the classes and wanting to push how far I can get next time.

[@HarveyPrice-h8t]

@@Augury666Agreed, uniques for the most part would be worse than using a rare in that slot, on any build. Very unfortunate.

[@daedricxv2099]

Go play D3 or D4

[@7ekn002]

If trading is what the devs want, there should be a dedicated Auction House with instant delivery, it's stupid to try to chase players down for trade :/ I would actually prefer to craft things myself (it feels much more satisfying), but pointless when rares with twice the armor and stats is one regal, etc

[@DanskerneFraDanmark]

100% that also stops bots and bad players for setting a dumb price for an item and have to rely on them for the item

[@ayceman21]

In-game Auction house is better, that u can pay with gold or orbs or trade with items All in one. With easy to navigate search feature.

[@MarkoLomovic]

Nope we do not want that. You know if you want to craft things you self SSF is an option.

[@magikarp2063]

​@@MarkoLomovicWhy not? And who's we? I want. These people also want.

[@Riseoffrost2]

I spent about 7 hours to gear two character with 11 exalts. Not fun. Just endless spamming whispers.

[@fabienb]

In that clip of interview they mention how crafting would be incredibly important in PoE2… This is not even crafting: it’s gambling! Worse, it fuels buying currency mats on fishy websites as you can quickly buy the gear you want and move on, rather than have the most frustrating time applying orbs. SSF is simply not an option, unless you are very dedicated player. They also said the game would be more appealing to casual players, but casual players don’t want absolutely everything to be a frustrating challenge: they want to have a good distracting time and feel good about their game experience (which is not even long enough to waste time on chores). So, imagine if dying would take away 15% of their XP… oh wait… Anyhow… crafting…. Bring back the PoE1 crafting bench!

[@arkalis_]

I didn't play PoE1 and haven't reached endgame yet but I liked the way crafting worked in Last Epoch. I think they could take parts from it, like being able to remove or re-roll modifiers of your choice and not have to rely on the random alteration orbs. If they felt that made it too easy perhaps these targeted alterations couldn't get perfect rolls on the modifier stats, maybe even adding a new item state like "semi-Corrupted" if they wanted more granularity with modifying items.

[@mattb6646]

Well they removed alteration and scoure orbs. I think that fundamentally ruined the crafting system... and the crafting bench. These 3 things made crafting much more versatile and deterministic in poe1.

[@Buggolious]

@@mattb6646 no metamods in the bench, crafting is "slam 3 times". sadge

[@tylerulfmann4586]

Path of exile 1 system was you could pick up roughly 2 modifiers of your choice with the bench prefix and suffix Then add sockets Then quality Then corrupt it So path of exile 2 gives you more access to rarer material at the cost of having fundamentally less control over its base stats Which IMO sucks substantially more You want casting speed and chaos damage on a wand tough You want movement speed and a energy buff nah here’s light up It’s particularly vexing with the scarcity and map density makes mobbing a chore not helped by how atrociously massive act 3 maps are I had to go back to the big act 2 boss fight and farm him

[@lesbo37]

For mine I think the following things are needed: 1. Uniques need serious reworks - They're super rare to find and almost all of them are utterly worthless, it just feels crappy to get such awful gear when you should be happy. I've found about 20 uniques so far and only one of them I've even used. 2. Need a "precise orb" - An orb that lets you target a mod that you want to reroll would be exceptional to have. As you mentioned, boots are worthless without movement speed, to be able to reroll a less valuable mod to get that would be awesome. Same goes for wands and the like where having +skills is basically mandatory. They shouldn't be common but need this mechanism. The chance orbs are utterly useless because it's not worth risking a good mod to try and fix a bad one. 3. More of the good mods - This in general, every caster related item rolling with accuracy is so painful. Boots should have some kind of movement speed on probably 50%+ of them, not about 2% like it seems to be now. I checked the shops for boots on just about every level to level 60 and I didn't get a single rare boot with movement speed and couldn't have had more than 10 total with movement speed, the vast majority at 10% or 15% as well. 4. Class specific items - These would be super handy, they're a great way to disable certain mods on items so that you're not constantly getting worthless gear. Having them class (or even character) locked means they don't distort the trade market nearly as much. 5. Way more orbs - I've gotten half a dozen in 60 odd levels on my witch. Not sure how you're meant to craft anything at that level, basically I could have crafted 3 items total to max. The odds of getting the RNG to actually get what's needed mean I'm just hording the things as they're too precious to actually use. 6. Need more gold - Gambling is by far the best way to get items right now, at least before end game, but you get so little gold that it's not actually viable to do for more than a few items. 7. Need a much bigger inventory - Because it's so small you don't even grab half the stuff because every portal is a load screen of death potentially (I reckon it crashes 1 in 8 times), I mean it's fantasy, why work with such a tiny backpack. I'd happily pay money for a QOL upgrade on this front because that inventory is brutal. I mean Diablo 2 is 20 years old and the inventory is 5x the size... Also for the love of god, where is the auto-sort button! Definitely feels like loot is one of the biggest weaknesses. I'd say the only thing I'm finding less satisfying is the boss fights with off screen mechanics or more specifically the ultra zoomed in view you get in the boss fights so you can't actually see what's happening half the time, this compounds with all the range attacks of bosses basically being one shots so you're forced to melee range because all the melee skills are wet noodles. The movement speed is the other major flaw, I assume they're going to monetise mounts in the future or something as that's the only logical reason for making movement speed so insanely slow. I do also wish it was easier to tell what's happening on screen and to identify your minions from the mobs.

[@erkanKocaemin]

Send that to Asmongold videos u will get more attention

[@stateazure]

POE1 was the same, almost all uniques you'd find were worthless trash. It boggles my mind how long GGG ignored uniques, they just don't seem to care

[@buzzdx]

​@@stateazurepoe1 was successful because it was exactly the way it was. it might not be what you want it to be, but i think they know very well what they are doing. same as with bad stats on gear, there also need to be bad uniques you can find. generally a unique in poe is not meant to be an all powerful item, often they bring build-enabling things while also coming with a downside you have to build your character around to make good use of it.

[@stateazure]

@@buzzdx No, that's simply not true. Many, many uniques were utterly worthless and could be completely removed from the loot pool, and nobody would care (actually it would be a huge benefit). But the better thing to do (if they cared) would be to make uniques actually decent, they never took the time to do this, so the loot pool was absolutely filled with useless junk - something GGG have openly said they don't like in their game. Funny that they haven't seemed to fix this in POE 2. But then again, even the majority of the normal loot is also trash. GGG's ideas and implementations are way overrated and certainly not perfect by any stretch, they're also too arrogant to look at how certain other games have done many things better and learn from them.

[@stateazure]

@@buzzdx By the way, I have many hours in POE 1 and I hear what you say, there are a handful of uniques that have interesting and useful stats that are worth using, but build defining? Certainly not with the top builds I've used/followed, almost all the uniques get dropped at the end game builds except for a few. So my point stands - the loot pool is full of useless/junk uniques that serve absolutely no purpose.

[@stanyeo6650]

Making runes replacable by destroying old ones will be an overall net positive on most fronts, for now at least

[@upanddown1132]

This is the same problem the first game has nothing besides a handful of uniques that drop are exciting, every rare that drops will not drop well rolled but instead it has to go through crafting process that is nothing but gambling system. Pretty much every other game of this type has more exciting drops than Poe games. People have been asking for loot 2.0 for years but it seems we will never get it because devs want you to either trade or funnel people into the "crafting" system.

[@Chnmmr]

My biggest complaint of the current loot system is how it (to me and my experience) feels absolutely determined to drop good loot for the class I am not. I'm a Witch minion infernalist, and the VAST majority of my yellow and orange drops are melee weapons, bows, quivers and heavy armour. I've had ONE yellow staff drop and have yet to see a yellow sceptre drop.

[@chunderfpv]

I feel your misery. I keep getting witch uniques for my ranger. Not a single unique for my class yet. Currently in endgame ssf.

[@antoniodgarrison]

Same boat. Plenty of loot, but not for my class.

[@straygoat4366]

Exalted orbs should add 1-3 affixes. This would encourage me to use them throughout the campaign. And/Or, regal adds 1-2 affixes.

[@f.t.b.sbreakdown4116]

This!!!!!!!

[@3_1_3rd_gaming]

Problem is finding the fuckers tho. I'm on act 3 on my ranger and have only found literally 1.

[@straygoat4366]

@@3_1_3rd_gaming That's odd! I at least find 1 an hour while leveling early game. I'd recommend getting an item Filter to make sure you are seeing them!

[@f.t.b.sbreakdown4116]

@@3_1_3rd_gaming welp like the video says you better save them for trading

[@Fishster]

The problem is you don’t really ‘craft gear’ you get a spin of the slot machine and the odds aren’t great. Loot just doesn’t feel rewarding. They need to allow players to have better control of outcomes, let them actually craft rather than just gamble.

[@Logos6]

Also, for the love of everything thats holy or unholy... GET RID OF THE ''Light radius'' ''rarity find'' and make ''thorns damage'' way more rare or perhaps get rid of it too and find other ways of imprinting it.

[@Spacecoke]

Agreed. They are like booby prizes that are there just to piss all over our crafting attempts.

[@AbdulRehman-hm5do]

No, light radius and thorns serve an important purpose in the mod pool

[@chris.pure.project]

Rarity find is important for maps

[@jdp2571]

Don't forget + mana. I get it every single time.

[@tyrrollins]

That's never going to happen. If you want easy end game loot poe ain't for you. That's why good gear is so valuable.

[@JahIthBer]

I played ssf until end game and it’s way better to save exalted orbs for trading than slamming them and making a item useless

[@mattb6646]

Meaning ssf isn't a viable play option

[@ontoverse]

@@mattb6646 I only play SSF and I'm inclined to agree. At least not if you want to have fun. Maybe if you're in the pride and accomplishment crowd, or have a particular love for gacha mechanics. Some people do love clicking stuff for that "one more pull" feeling. Maybe there will be more options for us SSF players when all skills are in the game? Not sure how that would play out though.

[@JahIthBer]

@@ontoverse should be in a much better spot on full release we need to give them feedback now. Maybe give real crafting bench in maps instead of the gambling we do with exalts

[@BasedF-15Pilot]

Took me 53 minutes of played time to figure out that $30 is all that PoE2 is going to get from me.

[@Logos6]

am on tier 13 maps. Every 10 maps i might be lucky and find 1 exalt. I have played the game 174 hours and never got a divine.

[@codmwtf8423]

cap lmao either you're lying or you don't have any item rarity on your gear/maps which is a you problem if you don't do it loo

[@Syaniiti]

@@codmwtf8423 The problem is MF is way too busted, the only build worth playing is one that can fit MF.

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

Get some rarity on your gear, you will notice a massive difference in common currency dropping like exalts. If you combine that with juicy maps then you might get a divine or two.

[@mattb6646]

Rarity should not be a necessity to dropping appropriate amounts of currency. They have fucked it up. Most people had no idea how important rarity was until this past week. That's a game design issue, not a player issue. I'm a huge poe fan but they've really fucked this game up with some of their decisions.

[@ironfreddy3192]

This is virtually impossible.

[@tenorenstrom]

The fact that loot drops are balanced around trade made me stop playing. Last Epoch had the solution. Wish PoE2 would just copy it.

[@Anything-butOrdinary]

SSF Has not been very good for me. I am lvl 73 doing t6 maps, my gear sucks mostly because I have 4+ pieces that are item level 50+ because I cant get any good rolls for my infernalist minion build. Never got a greater orb before, had to vaal a gem to get a 4th socket.

[@sakaaali]

I'm also ssf, doing t3 maps and at least my gloves and chest are below ilevel 35. I think they should bring back the crafting bench to solve gearing problems for campaign and early maps at least

[@destruction74]

I use gear with armor and energy shield and it feels like the game knows what i need the most, because it almost only drops evasion gear. It’s so annoying

[@leviwins]

solo self found is really fun. i play with standard just to have the option but i very rarely trade. the fun of the game for me comes from the loot experience and power fantasy from the rare drops and leveling/grinding. not sure what just trading for whatever and flying through the campaign does for people but to each their own! play how you like

[@metallicafan416]

Agree, have never traded in a game ever. Been playing games since Atari

[@pizzahunter69]

Is the drop rate different for regular and SSF?

[@Buggolious]

@@pizzahunter69 it's the same

[@DarkPassenger]

I'm the same. I don't mind people trading, but it shouldn't be the only option to gear up.

[@pizzahunter69]

@Buggolious Then what is the point going into SSF?

[@Jaguar2kicks]

Last Epoch’s crafting is the best imo. First GGG could start by removing completely magic find/rarity, light radius, and thorns. Buff the currency drops, and create an in-game auction house lol

[@ErikaPwnz]

Last Epoch had an AH and this thing ruined their economy Stop crying and play the game

[@undevelopedcell3800]

​@@ErikaPwnzcriticism for an early access game isn't allowed? Y i k e s

[@ErikaPwnz]

@@undevelopedcell3800 looks like I hit the right spot 😂

[@Buggolious]

@@ErikaPwnz wipe those tears away lil bro

[@ErikaPwnz]

@@Buggolious go clear your white t4 map, kid

[@theknave69]

The loot progression is broken. When I am a level 45 character receiving level 16 white drops (that aren't even relevant to my class), that shows a regressive loop. Loot should always be moving forward. Perhaps rubber band it to your character level within +- 5 levels, and adjust the percentage of drops that are tied to character class. Rarity of items found may also want to be tied to character level. Crafting is pretty broken as well. I think that the rune slotting is a good base concept, but the way that it's implemented is sub-optimal. You should be able to replace or remove runes. Grim Dawn had the blacksmith who would either destroy the insertable, freeing the socket, or destroying the piece, returning the insertable. Also think that if you're going to equip rare find, that it should apply to items as well as currency. The RNG needs some definite tweaking.

[@Syaniiti]

One would think that GGG would've learned a thing or two in the decade of PoE1. Turns out they learned nothing and are making the same mistakes that were already fixed in PoE1.

[@theblahtaco]

If Diablo-style loot has a thousand haters, I am among them. If Diablo-style loot has one hater, it is me. If Diablo-style loot has no haters, then I am gone from this Earth. "+3% poison resistance" you will never escape the cycle of Samsara.

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

Get off the crack bro. It's cooked your brain.

[@JeEhaO]

Game has a huge item drop problem. You are very often not finding an upgrade for 20-30 levels when playing self-found.. NPCs are also kind of selling better loot since they got the items you look for, the drops from monsters are super random and 90% of my uniques are not usable by a normal barbarian and it feels bad..

[@BlizzPort]

I've stopped playing PoE2 once I realized unique items are shiny garbage. When Unique item drops, you should feel like you've hit the lottery. There's no such feeling in PoE2. Every item that drops is nothing special, so instead you're grinding crafting items to turn garbage stuff into usable gear. I love everything else about PoE2 (other than the loading screens), but this. This breaks the game. For a loot game to have garbage uniques... How is it those devs don't realize this? It's obviously a huge problem. And funny thing is, despite garbage uniques, PoE2 is closer to D2 than D3+D4 combined. D3+D4 are absolute garbage, not to mention the mobile one... I'm waiting for a spiritual successor to D2 for 25 years now. Still nothing... GGG used to call PoE a spiritual successor to D2, but it's not.

[@eymerich6872]

This is the reason why i don't trade, it would kill the enjoyment for me. Cause in an AARPG i should be able to grind the gear and mat for myself and not relying on an AH or Trade...at least in my opinion.

[@ResidentIdiot]

I agree but right now loot is incredibly random and we have no agency over our crafting. I have 2 characters in ssf at 85+ and I feel like getting new upgrades requires many hours of sorting through total trash.

[@rla9889]

This is me also. I don’t want to have to trade to get loot. I want to be able to play the game and have it be attainable on my own. Trading is 1000% unappealing to me, this is why I only play SSF.

[@Nathdood]

Orbs are too rare. Takes too much farming to get orbs, just to have them roll dogsh1t mods on whatever I'm crafting. Then start over from the beginning but now I don't have any orbs. Currency drops and fixing the one shots in mapping are my two biggest concerns

[@heyou2424]

I think the biggest problem with loot is that there is really only one mod that is worthwhile that being "Increase x Damage by x%" which pigeonholes people to hard focus on that singular mod alone to such an extent that Uncommons with that said one mod have more value than a Rare with six mods but doesn't have it. So why invest with rare currency in crafting for literally one mod when you have a better chance just finding it in a Magical/Uncommon?

[@legalizemarinara]

This is just not true as many classes want "add +x to (class applicable) skills", spirit (body armor/amulet), flat damage WITH % damage, life, resistances, rarity find %... and some builds can require life or mana on kill. % damage is not the *only* worthwhile mod. It really depends on your class.

[@bellidrael7457]

@@legalizemarinara I think you're missing the point. The point is that there are specific stats that you want on certain pieces of gear, that if you don't get, you basically trash the item. Let's say you're a full fire build Sorc/Witch. You want to use fire staffs. If you don't get Spell Damage and Fire Damage on that staff, may as well toss it. And that's the issue with this so called 'crafting' system. You can very easily find a good weapon early on that has the stats you need, and because it has the meta stats on it, you end up using that staff for the next 30 levels and find no upgrades. And it's just not fun to not be getting new gear as you play the game.

[@saiuan4562]

If you want to craft the way that the director says you will have to play around with the RNG, using omens to alter the way the exalted orbs, divine orbs, or chaos orbs modify an item. For example there is an omen, that says that the next divine orb you use on an item, will only reroll the number on the lowest tier modifier. The problem is that those omens cost 7 divine orbs or more :)

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

I have a sneaking suspicion that an omen costing 7 divines is not it. Something may need to change..

[@Fazzee45]

In ex that's like 77x7 insane.

[@PerfectPencil]

Essences feel like a simple solution but they don't drop until they don't matter anymore. I've never used one and have a ton.

[@nuke_looter5174]

I’m a level 46 warrior here and I’ll go handfuls of hours or more using the same gear with an occasional upgrade currency which I usually don’t want to use because I want to get a better item to use the upgrade on and I’ve also still not seen an uncut spirit gem Lvl.11 and I’m beyond the pyramid map in act 3 it’s beginning to get incredibly boring and tedious.

[@Musicankane]

I think they have three solutions to the loot problem in the game. 1, Drop rare items more regularly so people have better chances at finding starting gear that they can them slam currency into. 2. Drop Currency items far far more frequently so players are more encouraged to slam items because the risk is fairly low as you'll get more currency around the corner if an item doesn't work out. 3. Bring back the crafting bench to eliminate the gambling of slamming orbs into items only to brick them losing both valuable currency and the item. Right now the game has a problem in that the reality of how they said they wanted loot to work, and how it's actually working are completely different. It could be that this is an effect of early access and that a ton of item types simply dont exist in the game (like Swords, Daggers, etc) However more item types don't really help characters anyway and the lack of currency will still be an issue. There is also a problem of item rarity being a big issue within the game, to the point where it is basically required to get anything at all, even in mapping. So maybe the low drop rates are based around that, but then that's not a good idea and magic find as a stat should just be removed entirely because it's ineffective as a bonus stat when you make it required for any sort of loot.

[@blakecandesign9628]

I’m a lvl 30 Ranger, I’m still using a Blue Bow, and I’ve found 3 Unique Wands and around 17-18 Rare wands. I mean the game is still super fun, but that does feel like a bit of a drag to keep finding wands. And feel so under powered.

[@davidmccoy112]

That's because everybody that found out that rarity stat on gear affected currency are now controlling endgame with high price for certain builds and they're not selling its bad at this point

[@winterhearted6780]

Path of Exile 2 has many problems. For me personally, the biggest problem is PC freezing on loading issue, which is still unfortunately is not fixed.

[@Hatchet-w6x]

Trade w/o AH is one of the dumbest moves made by GGG. the tech is already there to just buy direct from tabs. Shameful. Consoles are forced SSF because Trade is broken on console and full of scammers.

[@Mister_Know_Name]

The only thing I hate more than trading is gambling. "Crafting" items in this game is a complete waste of resources.

[@lordaizen8004]

3 exalts in one act is STILL HORRIBLY BAD GGG is so disconnected from reality…. Add to that this is a free to play game and everyone should just expect GGG to NOT ever respect your time 😢 Hence the exp loss too. It takes AGES to level. How many ppl are actually going to reach 100?? Not many, if I had to guess

[@OldGoat-cw8he]

Console you get dropped from the game for accessing the trade website. Which means you can't really trade. Currency exchange is the only thing available on console. Which is ridiculous because they could have just directly ported the trade from PoE1

[@octaviousdutolan4270]

The Problem with PoE2 is that it's actually a relatively good game that has horrid drop rates and also even worse tiers of items. Rare is really the best of the best? Sure, Uniques, but let's be honest. You have to do your entire build around it for it to be relevant. Otherwise when you put it on it feels way, way worse. You *should* want to use it, but if you do it feels bad. They need more tiers of equipment. They also need to make bosses relevant with loot. Sure, you can use this 'loot filter' thing I hear about so much, but then you go around picking up even less gear and equipment. Also ~ why in the 7 layers of hell is there a badly optimized trade site? Is this really the kind of game you need to use your phone or alt-tab into something entirely different in order to play? Because good luck getting any kind of progression or power bumps on your own. If you insist on gambling (lets be honest, random buffs that can brick a good item is exactly gambling), at least let people use a buyer's remorse 'currency' to undo that stupid thing that the game put on it. Also ~ The idea that crafting mats are currency is emblematic of how bad the game design actually is. It's showing its roots of being a windows flash game that was a badly written mod of Diablo 2 again. If you group up you get punished more often than not, but you have to in order to really push endgame to get the better magic find. You need it on all of your gear to consistently get items. If you're lucky or have a few good drops, just derp with the trade site and get items that're actually useful. Make you wonder why anyone ever bothers not using it, trying to go it alone and struggle. There is a lot they need to fix and balance with the game. Some random who used real money to buy orbs or got lucky getting an item to get good gear should not have so much of an easier time playing/enjoying themselves. That's how craptastic the design is, it's that impactful. Look no further than the 'dark souls like' tag on steam. People are so clueless about progression/trade/all the bias of the poe1 player base that they think the game is supposed to be dying 100 times to the boss until you skill your way through it. Whereas Rando McPay-to-Win goes in and melts the thing so fast it doesnt even get other phases. That's how dog barf the optimization is. I genuinely do wish the game was better. They've got a huge boost of players right now, people who like/enjoy the game, but also those people only have so much patience. I know, the game isnt "made" for them, it's made for the whales who spend hundreds and hundreds on their free to play gambling app. They profit from selling those premium stashes so people can post on the site, after all. PoE made good money going from a homebrew mod version of diablo into PoE 2 which is pretty close I think to the kind of game they've always wanted to have. It lets them get away from the awkward habits and inclusions of the past, going for easier, more streamlined things. I dont mind grinding, but when I'm stuck at a boss and spend several hours repeatedly doing the same area to clear and maybe get a chest out of it.... and then almost nothing drops, even with Magic Find (that's relevant to the character I'm playing)....... it seems excessively brutal. You can either have more game, or make the game you have harder/less optimized so it seems more. I get it, the game is only half done (if that), and people need to be patient. But, look at Valheim, and also No Man's Sky, and other gams. Their early access launch determined and still impacts them greatly to this day. Maybe a much bigger player base is actually bad for PoE 2...? If there's more mats/currency floating around, things will be more expensive. You need like a ton of the base item to legit gamble on to try to get good perks out of one of them, and then you either use it or probably sell it. Player driven economy is good and all, but like maybe a vendor that pops up randomly who only sells white items of a certain type, vanishes after X seconds or after you talk to them once? Sure, veteran players are happy the new people are getting aggro and grumpy about the game. However, it'd behoove them to try to hold the hands of new people and get them to see the game how they do. Otherwise, the devs might genuinely want to make quick, sweeping changes to keep access to that much larger player base, eager to convert them into pay piglets just as those same veterans are "Ever so happy to support" their 'free' game with hundreds in microtransactions. The veterans need to realize if they get the noobs on their side, there is an even larger pool of money thrown to "Support the Devs" and content will come out faster and be even better. If you got to here, congratz!

[@johncastorina8310]

I'm in act 4 now, and I still have a ton of gear from act 1...I am on PS5, so I don't know if I will ever use the trade site. I'm getting very frustrated with the game in its current state and might just set it down for a few months while GGG works through some of these issues. Deterministic crafting would be so much better IMO.

[@12deathguard]

You can't trade on console and we have zero loot filters or third party apps of any kind. It makes an 8/10 game a 5/10 game.

[@Konfusious86]

Another problem is...the more people that use Exalts as a trading currency instead of crafting, this will greatly reduce the pool of items actually available to trade in general in the market. Less people crafting with Exalts and instead stashing them as a trade currency is terrible idea.

[@nolas1360]

If they want us to trade, make a damn auction house. While they're at it, don't make us download a loot filter from 3rd party... should be in the base game. Other than the crafting/loot aspects of the game, they are checking all the boxes.

[@beg11221978]

I stay away from the trade . Basically just buying the perfect piece for certain builds to work takes away from the game imo. I rather make what I find and craft myself with

[@0-Seya-0]

I'm really curious to see what change's they'l make in January.

[@Erdbeerenserver]

1. ramp up the drop chances for relevant bases, yup semi smart loop ONLY during the campaign! 2. create new orbs which will drop OFTEN but have clear limitations like: Item can only have 2 suffix and 2 affix and it cannot have very high tiers of affixes. Now suddenly, people can craft like crazy, have fun during campaign and once you enter maps you start finding the actual gear. Now they can even bring back the loot beetle and stuff because it will no longer inflate the market

[@ForTheViolence]

I’m taking a break until maybe march. The game should be in better shape, especially the loot. The loot grind is a bit exhausting the way it’s set up.

[@DinoFancellu]

I don't blame you. There is simply too much grind, drops far too low.

[@junechevalier]

I'm still early, at the end of Act 2 as a monk. I'm hoping endgame would be better but as it stands now, finding a good base for an item is hard enough, and I mean one that's tailored to my playstyle and build. Getting the orbs is also tough enough. Putting those orbs and hoping it would turn out to have at least T2 modifiers that synergize with my build is even tougher. What's even harder to swallow is when you've had a set of good modifiers on an item, and then you slap on some more orbs and got a modifier that adds "light radius" or "rarity find" I can't re-roll a specific modifier like in Last Epoch. or maybe idk how to do it yet

[@mattb6646]

No you can't change an item once it's rolled. You can use an orb of chaos but it will rerolled a random modifier exposing you to another rng layer, in which you'll likely rerolled one of the mods you actually need. Poe had a great crafting system, and they butchered it for some reason in poe2.

[@junechevalier]

@ It’s in ea let’s hope they hear the community about the crafting system and make necessary changes

[@Bunny_1643]

New Item currency that functions like Incubators. Once applied the item is no longer tradable. Wearing and killing enemy's with the item will apply new modified to the item for free until the item has no free slots left after that it will ungraded the quality and then add sockets. The intention is these work like Alchemy's but can be applied to any gear you want to upgrade that your already happy with but dont want to exalt. The item taking investment and becoming trade bricked ensures its value stay under an exalts keeping its drop rate slightly higher then them.

[@Zerochilluwu]

im on SSF two characters one in cruel the other in maps and I'm ngl it feels like a ruthless mode and I'm enjoying "slightly masochistic gamer" it but I definitely see how its a bummer for others, I'm kind of hoping they rebalance drops and remove rarity find stat.

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

The total randomness is the biggest problem for me. I feel like I only get a decent result from using individual exalted orbs about 20% of the time, and the chance of getting a great item overall feels close to 0%.

[@KitShannon]

Exalted justl oves to produce a "+X to light radius". Every, Single. Time.

[@sundownrider3430]

Yep after Acts 1 and 2 normal I realized it was more practical to stockpile exalteds and use them on the market than use them for crafting at the current observed drop rate

[@toolkitproductions9596]

SSF tip: target Expedition in maps. It's not as deep as the POE1 system; but, you can still 'craft' solid upgrades, and then use currency to further enhance if required. I'm SSF, lvl 80, full res cap, with a 400pdps crossbow. It's very doable.

[@AndragonLea]

If they wanted us to constantly improve our gear, currency orbs would have to drop constantly. That just seems reasonable. You can't use what you don't have. Maybe the more important thing would be that the RIGHT currency be dropping constantly. For example: runes drop like candy, but they're absolutely worthless. You only need 1 or 2 per item and you find upgrades so rarely that you have dozens if not hundreds in stock by the time you need just one. Not only that but they're of such low modifier magnitude that they're a waste to use on actual end game gear. If you put a flat mana or life rune on an item, you're objectively bricking it. You're better off looking for items with native resists because those can go beyond 40 and using that rune slot for a soul core. Divines drop very rarely in maps for me (I found one three days ago, I'm mapping and I have like 80 % increased rarity running magic tier 10 to 12), but that's fine because it's not the more important item for upgrades. What's more important than having items roll high is having items roll the right modifiers at the right tiers. Right now I pick up every piece of gear that has ES only and I haven't actually FOUND an item better than what I have since the day I reached map. Every marginal upgrade I have is from trade. Items either roll the wrong modifier or roll them at tiers so low that they're simply worse than items with 2 or even 3 useless modifiers on them. There's nothing you can do about that because no currency exists to modify this. You just have to keep picking stuff up - which is intensely frustrating when you're literally wasting currency you could be accumulating for trade to modify gear that then gets recycled for a shard or a handful of coins. At this point, crafting feels like a literal waste if you're not playing SSF. Every exalt you slam on an item could've gone towards something that's a guaranteed upgrade. It actually feels bad to craft. I feel like I'm wasting my time and resources when I should be excited.

[@toramaru2490]

Guys you need to equip rarity item found in as many gear as you can. That option is in the game for this particular issues

[@leonsalem7129]

Another option is having different drop rates for ssf and trade. In trade, don’t change much with the expectation that people will rely on trade for upgrades. In ssf make drops more generous so people would interact with crafting without messing up the economy

[@Liftinglinguist]

We don't want Trading to dominate building; we all remember D3 and the infamous auction-house. I want to be able to farm and play for actual items, rather than farming for currency to purchase others' finds - it's what the ARPG gameplay-loop is supposed to be.

[@Sheriff_K]

They need to remove Item Rarity from gear.

[@0-Seya-0]

No, they need to increase the default drop rates.

[@Buggolious]

@@0-Seya-0 what's that gonna solve? rarity is still in the game

[@0-Seya-0]

@@Buggolious It's gonna solve us getting better drops. And if you still want more you can put rarity on top.

[@alexhirt4382]

I loved the crafting system in poe1, but I've always been a crafter at heart and I purchased currency to do so. At least initially until I could farm. I love the idea of bringing back tiered essences and making them more common. I think 3 affix rares are a great idea, since they're so cheap and you can roll a dozen without breaking a sweat but if that's the case we need a dedicated white item shop. Scrounging for wands that are the right kind is brutal, and once you get 2 mods, if they aren't good you're better off selling it than trying to annul it bc ooa are so expensive. Idk as it stands the crafting system just isn't working and I ended up buying my gear which is frustrating

[@EthCirah]

2:35 This is exacly my current problem. I crafted +2 to all spells, damage is converted by 16% to X, damage is converted by 16% to X on a trash wand ilvl 54 and my focus has +2 to all spells, +50% lightning damage, +20% cast speed, +% Maximum Energy Shield + Energy Shield. Good luck replacing that without trading and even these items are worth in the divines already when I can't even drop one divine at level 80 with 140% item rarity on rare maps... I would love to find a replacement other then trading but crafting such a thing is gonna be a story of Rng, slamming a ton of currencies, grinding more currencies & slamming more currencies on an item to find a good base only to have higher tier of modifiers. Heh and that is IF I could drop some currencies others then hammers, bows & crossbows on a mage character. PS : GGG Bring back orb of regret. I am tired of grinding for another good white/base because the one I just crafted is terrible on everything. I know you can use 3 items in the reforging bench but when I can't even drop 1 jewel in an entire campaign and you give some sort of bad stats on that jewel... I would love to reforge it instead of keeping it in my dump stash.

[@magikarp2063]

Why isn't there an ingame marketplace for items? Looking up an item on a website, the player having to be online etc makes me, as a new player, not want to interact with the trading at all.

[@1LikeB00bz]

Lvl 31 currently still using a staff from when I was lvl 4 because every staff that has dropped lowers my dps on my lightning spells not only that have yet to find a way to add sockets to a staff, scepter, and wand, but every other weapon I could easily do so

[@lenni-hazels]

I found that using exalts makes sense on rings and amulets, and sometimes on something that is already good enough to wear. So they kinda achieved their goal for me at least with those items. Everything else is very much debatable. Edit: This is more after the campaign. Before I used exalts to buy weapons on the market (with Monk) mainly.

[@InMaTeofDeath]

I just started all 6 classes on SSF and am keeping them at the same levels so they share everything they drop and I don't have to use orbs for crafting as often. Still going strong on act 2 everyone's about level 23 probably would have been further but I play a lot of other games as well.

[@CutthroatLife]

hitting the wall in Cruel bc lack of resistances. cant craft bc mats are still too rare to gamble, cant respec bc you spend gold gambling and now you dont have any gold and youre just reclearing an instance for gold. rng for progression is wild.

[@Charmegrisen]

Look for gear with rarity item find on them and start to clear content with them and you'll see night and day difference

[@Darkkfated]

The real problem is that there is no "crafting" in PoE. Instead, you're pulling the slot machine lever 8 or 9 consecutive times per item - and if you don't "win" all those pulls, then RNGesus has bricked it and you gotta start all over. It's a massive gamble-a-thon that would put a lot of mobile gacha games to shame, and it's very frustrating. Playing solo self found gives you such WILD difficulty spikes because you often won't find a single upgrade to ANY SLOT for 20+ character levels at a time. There IS NO GEAR PROGRESSION AT ALL after mid-to-late Act I. We're talking getting one new usable item - one SINGLE item - every Act, Act and a Half, IF YOU'RE LUCKY. The only reason I was able to beat Act III at all SSF was because I finally threw my hands up in the air and wasted a half-dozen Regals and about 10 Exalts getting my shit-ass drops up to par so my Resists were high enough to trivialize the Act III Boss (He went from one-shotting me to me one-shotting *him* after raising my resists from 40% to 70%). Right now, the whole game is being carried by the moment-to-moment gameplay - which is fine in the short term, but will NOT keep people engaged long-term.

[@rla9889]

To me the fact people are more excited about crafting materials than actual loot in an ARPG speaks volumes. The game feels terrible on SSF. Being level 50 and having level 17 gloves feels terrible. A key part of this game seems to be to cause as much annoyance and frustration as possible.

[@beastballchampions]

Is the loot between self sustained and online different ? I never found an orange item and 50% through act 2

[@Buggolious]

loot is the same for everyone

[@matgod2004]

Funny thing about the hyperinflation on market, it is already happening because of Increase Item Rarity Found affecting currency and some builds been able to fit a lot more of it without sacrificing much power.

[@lordaizen8004]

The only way I see them fixing this outright is to implement a crafting system like Last Epoch That crafting system is GOATed. Hands down

[@volatile1595]

some stuff need a slight buff, that I can agree on. But my main problem is the punishment when you slam something bad onto what you thought could be an upgrade, in poe 1 we could get items into "safe states" were we could determinately revert it to a usable state, This was not the case for all items but having some control over the crafting may result in players getting better items but it also lessens the bad feeling of getting bad stats on a good item.

[@MrMokey24]

Blue items should have 3 mods. That would make progression much smoother. They could make orbs of augmentation more rare to compensate for player power. Remove item rarity from the game. At least it should not be a mod on gear. Make waystones less variable in rewards by removing item rarity and quantity from them as a mod, as well as waystone drop chance. The mods that make the waystone more difficult should be tuned down and increase the item quantity only. All of this means there will be way less rare loot on the ground, making crafting more rewarding. Picking up white items of a base you want for your build is going to be the way you craft a good magic items with 3 mods, then upgrade to a rare and hope for some good supplementary stats.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

The problem is too deeply engrained at this point. At the same character level I was running around with an 80 pDPS weapon. Went on trade and a well rolled 200+pds weapon was 3 exalts. You just can't compete with that. Especially when so many classes are just converting phys damage for their skills.

[@IPlayVideoGamesAndNothingElse]

Most of my best items have came from the gamble vendors. I’m in cruel act 2 as a solo. I mostly got exalted orbs from quests maybe 1 per map run for a campaign map. I have only found 3-4 jeweler orbs. Mostly all I get is uncut skill gems and support gems and a bunch of useless gear. I’ve got like 8 uniques. Mostly for warrior, witch, and sorc. I’m playing an invoke lightning monk.

[@NhuQuynh-nv7fp]

Agreed with you The issue is there are a lot of useless stats such as light radius, mana / life on kill for you to slam to exalt orb. It’s so much cheaper to buy the items you want on poe2 trade. It’s shocking how they could test this with internal testers and not think it’s an issue ?

[@PeterFriemann]

I agree, it's not fun to run around with underleveled gear and feel like exalteds are way to valuable to gamble them away trying to craft something usable

[@angelus_lucifero]

Man, as a console player, I wish i could get far enough to have a problem with itemization. As it stands, the game is LITERALLY unplayable. Endgame maps where I'm consistently dropping into 10-20 fps range. On a grenade merc. It's hilarious i wanted to roll an Infernalist witch after this.

[@domash_pachkoou2203]

I've stopped playing Infernalist minion witch because it's so laggy on my ps5

[@glenmcl]

​@@domash_pachkoou2203PS5 😂

[@AngelSong16]

the fun part is thats prolly gonna mess up your fps even more :p

[@chunderfpv]

Exalts need to drop 10x as much if they expect us to "craft".

[@Dayemon]

My theory why they won't make an increased drop rate SSF mode or better "crafting system" that would actually be functional to play, is that less stash tabs in general will be sold as you won't need them to trade. If true, then I don't really ever expect a viable SSF mode like Last Epoch to ever happen. Looks like trade website simulator 2025 is the only way to play going forward.

[@lolwithsean]

I like your idea of making magic items have 3 mods and rares having a minimum of 4. That’s solid

[@MetalHev]

People keep saying "skill issue" on chat when you struggle with a boss, "skill" being "I lucked out and got +phys +%phys on a crossbow"

[@manvsroad7691]

First time player of the series here...Act 2, at two different times, I was killed by the bosses but had a DOT on them where they died shortly after killing me. Couldn't get the rewards. That sucked. Im level 49 currently, and just received my first divine. Do i keep it? or do I trade it for a pile exalts. Drops are so rare for me that i try to hold on to everything, scared to use it (whatever it may be)

[@LastProtagonist]

Ooo, good question. That one's tough to answer, especially with how much the prices of divines have been jumping. However, for where you are in the game, it may be better just sit on the divine orb until you're at a higher level where you can buy good equipment for mapping. Of course, if you can't progress in your current area, then it may be better to trade for Exalts and maybe buy a better weapon for the campaign, but you probably don't need to spend more than 1 or 2 ex to get something that can easily carry you through it

[@samnyce]

Crazy how no one is talking about belt charm slots!!! Has anyone gotten more than one? Do they exist?

[@ErikaPwnz]

This is the worthless stat. There are many useful mods on belts, such as resistances and strength in suffixes and hp, mana, armour in prefixes. There is only 1 useful charm - anti-freeze. So 1 charm slot is fine.

[@dmitriyl.8976]

I got a second slot. Rolled it using orb of aug.

[@tfc1193]

I originally thought that higher level belts would drop with more slots and endgame higher level maps would drop 3 slots. Not sure who thought it was a good idea to make charm slots an affix because all that does, much like movement speed on boots, is invalidate any and every belt that doesn't have +# to charm slots

[@bappo2693]

Every time i rolled the gamble on an odd good base, was a waste of currency. Crafting is only available to you if you can afford omens. (which you can also only get if you stack currency, not use it for stat rolling)

[@subsanderson]

At the moment, I spam trans orb, alt orbs and throw the gear away..no exalted orbs in hours. Starting to hit a gear upgrade wall, deffo something needs to give devs.

[@AirJordansDetroit]

Where exactly do you think the items on the trade site are coming from? People are exalt slamming 4 and 5 mod dropped items for the final value mod(s) then posting them for profit. When you get into grinding and juicing t15+ you all of a sudden look up and have 400 exalts...the game is not all about the campaign.

[@4ksandknives]

I've gotten about 4 exalts in about 1-2 hours during my campaign run... I do have some Magic Find in some gear that boosts to 40% just by chance. You definitely feel the effects of magic find I feel

[@aamoreWA]

I want Last Epoch-like crafting. It’s a good mix of deterministic and RNG.

[@edgarskrauze8461]

lvl 87 here and still no greater jewelers orb im running 15 maps , i think everything you said in this video makes sense

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

If you aren't in SSF you can buy one for 37 exalts and you can also buy a perfect jewellers orb for 3 divs 😂

[@Lucandos]

My experience with PoE 2 shows that drop and crafting system is balanced around blue items and when you transition to rare items, then everything start to fall apart. First of all we get quantity over quality issue starting around act 3 where there is a lot of items on the ground, but 90% of them are useless. Exalted/chaos orbs should be as expendable as transmutes/augmentations to make crafting be able to outweight item trading. Ideally you would want to trade only for really specific items.

[@oXMrsWarriorXo]

I am level 70 haven’t changed anything since level 40 because I have got nothing to change.

[@Alexman208GR]

So the issue you're talking about is making crafting more or equally alluring as trading? That would be tremendously difficult. It would require an account bound system that allows you some limited but extremely powerful crafting, that once it's been done the item is bound to your account as well. But this goes against the philosophy of the game. The only instance I've found that makes crafting better than trading is that the item you're trying to make is so tailored to your build that you literally cannot find it in the market, and you're forced to craft it yourself. But that is a very rare phenomenon usually happening to those far into endgame. I guess an account bound system like maven invitations that allowed for crafting, even if the item was then tradable would help a lot though. The game would benefit greatly from a little bit of deterministic crafting, like the crafting bench +1 mod. It would ensure that a leveling character has a minimum power level which would make it much easier to balance the content. Atm people are forced to surrender to their luck, and quite a few unlucky folk that don't get a good weapon drop end up suffering through painfully slow bossfights. While at the same time lucky folk like me in act 5 or my friend in act 3, get a tremendously strong weapon and blast through the content and trivializing it completely. Either of those extremes are no good.

[@johnmosley9376]

I'm SSF Grenade/Exp Shot Merc in early act 3. I found a crossbow with +3 to all Skills at level 20 and am still using it at level 39. I have zero exalts in stash because I have used every one I've found trying to find that +3 again for an upgrade. I have +20 movement speed boots and wear them rather than ones with better(barely) stats because that's (stupidly) more important to me. I stay right around 30k gold because that's the base I chose to not go below while I vendor gamble. I make sure I'm several levels above map mob level before I go to the next area. I think I'm doing Ok, I just killed the Chimera on my first try but have to go back to the fire witch when I get resists up to snuff. I feel like it's all held together with duct tape and baling twine but I'm fine. Everything is fine. (help!)

[@azjarosz]

I do not agree. I spent like 160 hours in PoE 2 now, and I do not want more maths to drop. In the campaign most of the gear I had was either found or crafted. For me orbs were common enough to drop them on the items that I was sure that I wanted them to use on, and rare enough to not throw them on almost every good base. And by the end on cruel I started to go into trade to look for better items/bases but still I was using orbs on them. And I like that so much more than how it was in PoE1.

[@LastProtagonist]

Thanks for your opinion & being respectful. Could you elaborate on what you like about that more than in PoE1? I don't quite understand

[@azjarosz]

@@LastProtagonist Sure! In PoE 1 at some point you have so many orbs, that you can just spam any items with it. You don't feel value of them (well maybe exalts), but chaoses? You have them a ton. In PoE 2 I feel like you have just enough, to craft something useful, but not with high rolls. And IMHO that is good! I feel like campaign should be place, where you craft some items, but nothing higher than tier 3-4 rolls. Higher rolls should start on early endgame. I am rather fan of slow progress with unique being truly unique, and some of the content (like higher maps) should be available only for true hardcore players (which I am not), and I do not have a problem with some content being not something that I can reach. In my opinion endgame is too soon in most games. And by endgame I mean endgame content, like maps, but as well high value maths, and items with higher rolls. Like e.g. links on the object. IMHO 6 links should be something that you can get when you are around 90 lvl, 5 link around 80, 4 links around 65 etc. In PoE 1 it was way, way too easy to get 6 links.

[@LastProtagonist]

Thanks