Pathfinder: WotR - Launch Review (After Beating The Full Game)

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Mortismal Gaming

Mortismal Gaming

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@HighDistortion
@HighDistortion 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you got the respect from Owlcat for a review copy. Can't wait to play this beast if a game.
@redtheftauto
@redtheftauto 3 жыл бұрын
For real he was the first person o saw talking about it I'm depth. Really happy to see the growth he's gotten recently
@SittingBlue96
@SittingBlue96 3 жыл бұрын
The best I can describe this game is, "It's a lot." And it's GOOD.
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 3 жыл бұрын
You inspired me to buy Kingmaker, so Owlcat working with you seems to be a win for everyone involved. Also, I can appreciate a balanced review that's believable on the highs and not holding back on the lows as opposed to some fawning over hot garbage one might see on other channels and other games.
@Lorespire
@Lorespire 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, wish I was on Mortem’s level! Owlcat reaching out to you and providing the complete game for a review…. You’re killin it. Keep up the great work! P.S. this game is awesome! Can’t wait for the rull release tomorrow
@SkipaDaFlipa
@SkipaDaFlipa 3 жыл бұрын
Been watching your mythic path videos and it’s honestly helped out a bunch. Keep up the great work!
@DisfiguredMale
@DisfiguredMale 3 жыл бұрын
Lorespire!!!!
@Damalon01
@Damalon01 3 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about tomorrow? Its been the 2nd of September for 20+ Hours. There are places in the world other than America y'know? Other Timezones??
@SkipaDaFlipa
@SkipaDaFlipa 3 жыл бұрын
@@Damalon01 he meant in his time zone ofc. Relax homie
@Elgar337
@Elgar337 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, a man of culture such as yourself, a right honorable gentleman nay, a bona fide RPG GANGSTA, should be using custom portraits. Get on it, son.
@BirdXYZ
@BirdXYZ 3 жыл бұрын
You need perfect custom portraits tho, can't stand when they don't fit the style of the game.
@Fenr
@Fenr 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently (not having played, only read from multiple sources) the vanilla portraits can change based on mythic paths. I've no idea how or when, but something to keep in mind for first playthrough at least.
@BirdXYZ
@BirdXYZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fenr Oh damn, that would be amazing.
@k9px
@k9px 3 жыл бұрын
@@BirdXYZ i've got my authentic knight looking portraits ready.
@Elgar337
@Elgar337 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fenr Damn, that puts a twist on things.
@99Bobson
@99Bobson 3 жыл бұрын
Man, so glad Owlcat reached out to you for this review! Sad to hear there are bugs that prevent quests from being completed, but VERY glad to hear that this launch won't be a Kingmaker 2.0 launch. And, I have to say, as a person who played the Pathfinder TTRPG way before the games, I humbly and respectfully disagree about the size of demons/monsters being a problem. I want to see all those Huge/Colossal babies in their full size :D
@jacoporegini8841
@jacoporegini8841 3 жыл бұрын
I finished Kingmaker on hard difficulty, it took me several months. The last session of the game was a slog and the final battles were basically torture... and yet I am so pumped for this!
@DE4DF1SH
@DE4DF1SH 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds awful. Why put yourself through that stress?
@jacoporegini8841
@jacoporegini8841 3 жыл бұрын
@@DE4DF1SH Same reason I finished Underrail on dominating, an unhealthy mix of masochism and lust for bragging rights.
@natanoj16
@natanoj16 3 жыл бұрын
It is great that we have such different experiences. I play on story, except I gave monsters more damage and made then a bit stronger
@jacoporegini8841
@jacoporegini8841 3 жыл бұрын
@@bofad6074 Yeah, this felt a lot more relaxing. Until I had to kill a cr 25 red dragon with a fucking level 9 party! Damn you Owlcat! Why is it that the only way to beat your games is to break them!?
@ethansmith7263
@ethansmith7263 3 жыл бұрын
"Enemies are too large and corridors are too crampt to use mounts a lot" (paraphrased obviously) Yeah, that's an issue in the tabletop too and makes picking a mount as a class feature a bit of a headache unless you're fighting giants whose houses are all big enough for horses to move around in XD And yeah, at a certain point all the enemies are just 'big'
@Ratstranger
@Ratstranger 3 жыл бұрын
That's why small races are so popular as cavaliers in tabletop. I played hafling knight on wolf and it was a blast. I'm thinking on recreating this character in the game.
@Piemasta9000
@Piemasta9000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ratstranger I'm either going wizard (cuz I'm always a wizard) or a Halfling Cav. Creating my 5e halfing family in pathfinder to stab some demon shins
@likeorasgod
@likeorasgod 3 жыл бұрын
One of my biggest complaint in Beta was that there wasn't an option to leave animal companions behind for certain areas where they can be a bit to big (like indoors). I done a Halfing on a dog and didn't have much issues or a Hunter with Leopard so I keep to smaller animals in the plays I used them.
@Mythicalreign22
@Mythicalreign22 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the 100% review and the eventual full story video. Really enjoyed Kingmakers set of videos.
@whitewolfsp
@whitewolfsp 3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to try everything, i like the kingmaker kingdom manage so the crusade is just a big bonus , no auto for me in anything , i want to do it all .... Real singleplayer CRPG , sold !!!!
@RomRPG
@RomRPG 3 жыл бұрын
Grats on getting an advanced copy for review. This sounds like it is a general step up from Kingmaker. I can't wait to hop in.
@marcogiannetta7081
@marcogiannetta7081 3 жыл бұрын
This one is to please the algorithm gods Really happy to see the first reviews be so positive of the game The Hype is real!!!
@gothlord77
@gothlord77 3 жыл бұрын
One for the algorithm. Thanks for the insane guides so far, can't wait to see what the future hold for you and your channel!
@12fishcake
@12fishcake 3 жыл бұрын
"I did run into some serious bugs" *mouse over giant spider* I see what you did there, and I approve lol
@VaraNiN
@VaraNiN 3 жыл бұрын
So pumped for tomorrow!
@kos_
@kos_ 3 жыл бұрын
Just rushed to finish kingmaker yesterday, cant wait for WotR. Grats on the review copy!
@reedk2402
@reedk2402 3 жыл бұрын
When your on steam and someone posts there’s a review…”oh who reviewed it….wait a minute….” Lol good review glad to see them rewarding all the work you put in talking about the game.
@likessox92
@likessox92 3 жыл бұрын
"Enemies are larger than your characters" LAUGHS IN PRIMAL DRUID
@mattsullivan2458
@mattsullivan2458 3 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Legendary Proportions*
@Wolfun1t
@Wolfun1t 3 жыл бұрын
Do size changing spells work on yourself while wild shaped?
@likessox92
@likessox92 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfun1t of course, that's why druid is op
@Wolfun1t
@Wolfun1t 3 жыл бұрын
@@likessox92 So I asked around and apparently enlarge spells DO work on you while wild shaped, but unfortunately the game won't give you the visual size change (unsure if its bug or intended as enlarging yourself as say, a gold dragon would be quite ridiculous). But you do get the stat boosts.
@Iymarra
@Iymarra 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for first impressions/review. Really looking forward to it myself, especially the stuff that hasn't been seen in beta yet. Of course, time for the first boss when the game releases..character creation.
@MrGouldilocks
@MrGouldilocks 3 жыл бұрын
Great review man. You've come a long long way since your DOS2 videos a few years back. You're more focused with your topics and concise with your speech. Your video titles set a clear expectation of what you're going to cover; and the content consistently meets these expectations without tangents or filler. And you don't resort to clickbait. What you see is what you get. I can also tell you fully respect your viewers time. You devote a few sentences to each topic and then move right on to the next. You just thoroughly reviewed a massive game in under 20 minutes. In your first video I ever watched I came away from a 30-minute video without knowing much more about character creation in DOS2 than when I started. I just wanted to give you the props you deserve for your growth and professionalism as an up and coming content creator, thanks for doing what you do.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That DOS2 video is like the first video I ever made that did well lol and well... practice makes perfect 😂
@MrGouldilocks
@MrGouldilocks 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming I only brought up that old video because it shows how sleek and streamlined your current videos have become. Your style is really starting to remind me of another content creator, Fextralife. start each video knowing exactly where you're going, and you steadily, relentlessly move the video towards the goal without any detours or or deviations.
@TheBlazegeo
@TheBlazegeo 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, you have definately help stoke the anticipation of this game.
@sergeydubovyk9268
@sergeydubovyk9268 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's possible to 100% this game at release, so that's already a good sign ;=)
@DE4DF1SH
@DE4DF1SH 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wonder how many hours it takes to beat the game
@likeorasgod
@likeorasgod 3 жыл бұрын
@@DE4DF1SH we guess about 40-60 hours if you skip some things and around 100 if you do every thing. That isn't even mention doing more than one play cause of each of the paths.
@Kakkarot211
@Kakkarot211 3 жыл бұрын
Grats on the preview copy...I am so stoked to play this
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 3 жыл бұрын
Will you be covering the paths that were not in the Beta? I really want to be a Devil so I am hoping you will cover it.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming Fantastic. I want to reenact the old D&D devil vs. demon conflict by playing a LE asshole.
@B1nChicken
@B1nChicken 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the channel dude. Only found it the other week. Keep up the good work!!!
@00HoODBoy
@00HoODBoy 3 жыл бұрын
you gaining subs like a maniac right now, thanks for all the work you put in
@theexpatriate
@theexpatriate 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered and subscribed to your channel because of your great WotR content, I'm beyond hyped to play tomorrow and hope to see lots more great stuff from you. Cheers
@SonesBen
@SonesBen 3 жыл бұрын
"I ran into some serious bugs"... [cue scene of being attacked by a giant spider] Editing genius. :)
@alanmv01
@alanmv01 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Can't wait to get my hands on this game.
@musguera
@musguera 3 жыл бұрын
I'm playing Kingmaker for the first time right now and loving the game. So I will most certainly play this game in the future. Thank you for the review!
@bilbobaggins2401
@bilbobaggins2401 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for covering this game in such a detail in this and all your previous videos!
@cabrelbeuk72
@cabrelbeuk72 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. And your guides. Watching your kinetic video, it's the first time i actually understand how it works. And also now i know exactly what classes and archetype i wanna play first.
@Arcling
@Arcling 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! I'm a bit worried that you've mentioned some bugs. At least there are reportedly less of them than in Kingmaker on launch. Don't want being unable to finish some quests, so I'm probably going to wait a bit with getting WotR until some patches are out. I look forward to your next videos about late game mythic paths, since there was very little datamined info about them.
@SerpenTyx
@SerpenTyx 3 жыл бұрын
I blame your class overview videos for ruining my life way before release! Spent so much time theorycrafting builds, glad to know the game shaped up this good! Thank you Mortym for spending so much time and effort to bring us all this juicy info!
@no00wa
@no00wa 3 жыл бұрын
SO so excited for this even though I haven't finished many CRPG's (they are my favourite genre though) besides DA:O / D:OS2 / NWN2 and Tyranny. I really hope Owlcat will continue this trend of making great and visually stunning Pathfinder games that are lengthy but in a good way with twists.
@Featherish
@Featherish 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. So happy to hear there aren't any game breaking bugs this time around. And happy to hear you got an advance copy ^_^
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Well none that I personally ran into anyway lol
@benwatson222
@benwatson222 3 жыл бұрын
This is my first CRPG and I am blown away with the detail in this game and it’s really allowed me to branch out and find something I really enjoy playing. I really think I’ll try to 100% this game eventually.
@aliceherrscher6491
@aliceherrscher6491 3 жыл бұрын
And how is it? You already done it?
@benwatson222
@benwatson222 3 жыл бұрын
@@aliceherrscher6491 got to around 80% then burnt out on it sadly 😭
@aliceherrscher6491
@aliceherrscher6491 3 жыл бұрын
@@benwatson222 Oh my. I've done the game on previous week and Pathfinder is very great journey. Sadly you not done it.
@kayes4540
@kayes4540 3 жыл бұрын
I first saw your review. Then watched some others here on YT. They all seem annoying and talk without a pause shitting out numbers and stuff that's irrevant the whole time. Yours feels more like a buddy telling me about a new game. So thanks for your work. Love your channel in general, keep it going!
@guitarzeke
@guitarzeke 3 жыл бұрын
great review man! might have to pick it up
@josephfernandez8015
@josephfernandez8015 3 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for this. My plan is gold dragon blooded sorcerer to azata path to gold dragon path. I want all the dragons.
@ThePewace
@ThePewace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your vids, always insightful!
@dungeonrancher
@dungeonrancher 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos throughout the beta have been incredibly helpful.
@carlotruppi3314
@carlotruppi3314 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who actually loved the kingdom management stuff? Yes, it could have been presented better, but overall I loved it.
@fzoulcmbyl2134
@fzoulcmbyl2134 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea, but it's the sole reason that I stopped playing it. I looked all over for guides and help with it but found nothing for my situation. I continually failed kingdom quests ( cards ) because I had no BP, only 2-3 advisors and couldn't find more, and the quest cards had added up and stretched halfway across my screen. In addition to that... I couldn't take 2 steps outside the main town to quest, without a red ! going up on the kingdom and requesting me to turn around and go back.
@1nsomniac890
@1nsomniac890 3 жыл бұрын
I love it too. Loved it too much that I focused too long on it (skipping days and all that) and with the doomsday clock I was under prepared for the final battle lol
@chausser
@chausser 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ho, think I saw a secret companion in some of that footage. Cool to see his portrait, finally.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
More info tomorrow
@DE4DF1SH
@DE4DF1SH 3 жыл бұрын
Cool review. Thanks for the no-spoilers! I'm really excited to play this tomorrow. Gonna really miss Linzi, though.
@theodisius1
@theodisius1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. As someone brought up on Baldur's Gate and Heroes of Might and Magic, this game looks like heaven for me!
@MerkinMuffly
@MerkinMuffly 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if playing unfair as a mortal all the way through is possible. Just wondering did you play it on unfair in your playthrough?
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it would be especially since the "No Mythic Path" option is it's own mythic path that buffs your stats
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrystallineLore It's mentioned in the video (Reach Rank 8 Mythic)
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys I just got to the first Mythic path unlock. Your first option is Mythic Hero. So I think what that means is (Rank 1-8 Hero, Rank 8+ Legend) for a full Mortal run.
@Alister222222
@Alister222222 3 жыл бұрын
I am so freaking hyped for this game! It unlocks at 4am where I am (New Zealand) which is pretty annoying, but I will be up and ready!
@Bryza25a
@Bryza25a 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. You have a nice calming voice when you narrate! 😁
@seangilbert3561
@seangilbert3561 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video I was waiting for. After kingmaker, I wasn't sure about pulling the trigger. Thank you! I'll be buying it on steam after work today!
@idkfa1000000
@idkfa1000000 3 жыл бұрын
Hey i love your videoes looking into classes its helped me a lot with not only picking class but also understanding pathfinder more
@Slymind
@Slymind 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. This game caught my eye, at first i thought the combat was more akin to Divinity, but it seems that it's more like Dragon Age, although there is also a turn based mode. It appears to be pretty dense though, a lot of things to keep track.
@Thozel
@Thozel 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thank you for the review. Cant wait for tomorrow.
@wollyram6248
@wollyram6248 3 жыл бұрын
Got some vacation coming up, time enough, I hope, to dive in to Wrath or the righteous.
@doctorjohn7156
@doctorjohn7156 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review very insightful and this is the third review that said its worth buying, so I just bought it, look forward to playing :)
@Maverick734
@Maverick734 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I've been getting good info from your channel, it's helping me choose the games I DL. I've recently replayed Balder's Gate 2- TOB. Played POE-2 (Skipped no1) Should i play KingMaker first before this? To get a feel for this Developer and then reap the rewards with their new and improved/is King Maker worth playing? Love the Isometric CRPG's with real time with pause. Played a lot of HOMM so turn like the change of format and more real time.
@crozraven
@crozraven 3 жыл бұрын
So is this possibly the best RPG of this year then??
@the0nlytrueprophet942
@the0nlytrueprophet942 3 жыл бұрын
Out of interest what's even likely to touch it?
@gabrielvenceslau3075
@gabrielvenceslau3075 3 жыл бұрын
I Hug from Brasil, i Love The content of your channel, congrats for The owlbear recognition
@7TonyMontana7
@7TonyMontana7 3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about going with an Eldrich Scion Magus (dragon bloodline). Hopefully you're planning on going through the mechanics of the Gold dragon Mythic path soon.
@luckann
@luckann 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, you have earned a new sub!
@Haos51
@Haos51 3 жыл бұрын
I see Mythic paths also come with slight visual changes by default, that's cool!
@BenjaminApfelbaum
@BenjaminApfelbaum 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review, really!
@Kuhtlass
@Kuhtlass 3 жыл бұрын
16:31 - 'serious bugs' with the spider. That had to be deliberate lol.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
😉
@Jereb343
@Jereb343 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that locked of portion in the mythic menu for the gold dragon and the swarm that walks is such a tease. Its the two paths im most interested in. I mean who wouldnt wanna be a walking crime against humanity or a being so badass it can literally redeem demons of the abyss
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow
@williamnoble1537
@williamnoble1537 3 жыл бұрын
Been a big fan of your channel for some time now. So glad to see you giving spotlight to both large and small CRPGs. Kingmaker is my favorite game of all time (though still not 100% after 1700 hours...) and I'm looking forward to spending even more time in Wrath. Thank you for your unbiased and measured reviews, and keep rocking!
@marcinczyzewski5021
@marcinczyzewski5021 3 жыл бұрын
1700 hours into Kingmaker wow, man is it real? If yes, the biggest respect as possible. I have maybe 200-300 hours in Kingmaker and haven't finished it yet. But I am after River Kingdoms War chapter so only one chapter left if I am counting it well. Anyway Pathfinder:Kingmaker Enhanced Edition (after all patches) is great game one of the best cRPG all time imo.
@williamnoble1537
@williamnoble1537 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinczyzewski5021 Yep! I've run fully through the main story 3 times, and done many many runs of the Tenebrous Depths. I also have spent a good amount of time logged in doing 'research' for my own tabletop Pathfinder games, so that does pad the hours a bit.
@marcinczyzewski5021
@marcinczyzewski5021 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamnoble1537 Understand. And you have played from the launch date? Anyway it's incredible achievment for me 😁, you must be an Pathfinder expert now ;).
@patricklapinski1526
@patricklapinski1526 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to load this up at midnight. Still dont know what class i wanna play tho. Good review man !
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I made a video about some of favorites, but there's a lot to choose from lol
@jolintropitantos2511
@jolintropitantos2511 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh can wait to see more about those obscure mythical paths!
@FhargaZ
@FhargaZ 3 жыл бұрын
Will wait your video about mythic path to check what class work with what path; like you said, because of the sinergy with the spells for some.
@KarlWinterling
@KarlWinterling 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be satisfied so long as it's marginally better than Kingmaker.
@wraithalcon
@wraithalcon 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who usually plays games like Dark Souls as Deprived (and someone who mods Skyrim so they start with no spells, equipment, or skills), I am super curious about the Legendary Path and how that will play out. With all the fantastic story elements about becoming a Lich or ascending to become an Angel, I am madly interested how much reaction the world will have to "normal guy" saving the land.
@Imnospy
@Imnospy 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler. Don't read more if you don't want to know what the Legend Path is all about. Meh. Honestly the Legend Path is easily the most broken one. Sure you lose all the cool abilities of the other Paths. But being able to go up to level 40 is just dumb. The +4 to all your stats is just a bit of icing on the cake.
@lalitendudas9401
@lalitendudas9401 3 жыл бұрын
Succubus companion?.....hmmmmm...niiiiiceeee. Edit- hm ok great review, good to see the quality of life amd ui changes which were so desperately needed. The mission related bugs sounds really annoying I'd absolutely hate that in an rpg like this, I hope that's the first thing they fix in the patches. Other than that, everything else seems great...great review again and thanks for your hard work
@shawngillogly6873
@shawngillogly6873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the not 100% off-brand review. Always appreciate your thoughts. Even on games I had bought last year. Lol
@Haos51
@Haos51 3 жыл бұрын
Funny that we can chose to be characters from the first game in the character creation menu.
@Jasta85
@Jasta85 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I found the kingdom management in Kingmaker pretty painful, lost my first run because I kept failing kingdom rolls, getting stat penalties and continuing the fail until it just spiraled down into disaster. Had to look up some guides for help on my second run to avoid the major pitfalls in that system. Glad it's been improved.
@RPGFort
@RPGFort 3 жыл бұрын
You totally sold me on this, cheers.
@SpartanWolf222
@SpartanWolf222 3 жыл бұрын
Having completed WoTR recently and started a second and third playthrough going down two Evil Mythic Paths completely opposite of my Chaotic Good Azata run, I feel like there a lot of things about WoTR that are significantly better than Kingmaker, yet I am not 100% certain it takes the throne--pun intended. Going to try and keep this as spoiler free as possible. For starters, while there are nine Mythic Paths in all, I feel like the game truly has three to five separate runs worth replaying the game solely for those paths alone: (1) Azata/Angel being kind of indistinguishable from one another as being "the Good path;" (2) the Aeon path for a more "netural" cosmic order path where you can get some companions not available to you on the Good route; (3) the Lich path for even more companions (and a variation of a very, very late-game companion;) (4) the Swarm that Walks if you just want to see how evil you can get and make everyone miserable; (5) everything else kind of blends in together being indistinguishable because they are underwhelming and/or available only in the final act, so it seems more like a tangent than an entire new playthrough (the Demon is the only exception here.) Compared to Kingmaker, which kind of simplified the whole alignment system into Good and Evil choices for major decisions and Lawful and Chaotic kingdoms, I think it's fair to say that WoTR gives the most value on replaying the game for new things. However, that being said, I do think the alignment system suffers a lot more than Kingmaker because the story is written as if you were a savior/hero. The brilliance of Kingmaker's story was that you were shaping a kingdom however you wanted to achieve the political gains of your benefactor, so the story didn't have to care so much about how you achieved that goal. It simply wanted you to invest into your kingdom whether for honor, power, selflessness, etc. and that let the alignment system shine. However, I've only replayed Act 1 and 2 on my second and third character, but I do like how you can do a lot of evil actions amidst the turmoil of Kenebras and it still makes sense because it's during a massive war distracting everyone's attention away from your misdeeds. Putting an evil character at the head of your crusade, especially one displaying demonic powers, just seems too far-fetched for me to take it seriously, and even more so when you become a Lich. The other issues that I have with WoTR are more mechanical/gameplay focused, which further highlights how one-sided the alignment system is here, so it doesn't need much explanation. Things like the overabundance of Chaotic and Evil enemies; the repetitiveness of the demon armies towards the last third of the game; the lack of any sense in progression from enemy types that helps you get better at the game (ex. the trolls in Kingmaker helping you understand how regeneration works.) I'm not as bothered about these issues as the other ones because that's part of the Adventure Path itself. I'm more concerned with other issues like how rushed the final act of WoTR is compared to Kingmaker, how unbalanced some of those final encounters are even on Normal difficulty, and how absolutely bonkers the "secret" ending requirements are even compared to the likes of Kingmaker--and yet I somehow could not obtain it even knowing what to do--but I got an okay ending to the game regardless. If I gave scores, Act 1 - 4 would be a solid 10/10; Acts 5 and 6 really brought it down to a 9. There was only one "dungeon" that I liked from that final section of the game.
@SpartanWolf222
@SpartanWolf222 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing I can say about WoTR though is that it got me out of the comfort zone of being a basic class character.
@Ragingspoon
@Ragingspoon 3 жыл бұрын
I was never really to fussed with Kingmaker but am really interested in this game and have heard many good things about it. I will be waiting a while before I buy however to allow them to fix bugs and more importantly because I dont have the time to play it atm and by the time I do it will likely be cheaper anyway. Interesting you say its cheaper than usual in your region as here (UK) its over full price for a game. Usually a game is 40 pounds here although some do try and push it especially digitally but this is priced at 43 for standard edition.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, in the US a full price game is considered to be $60
@tric5122
@tric5122 11 ай бұрын
Resisted buying previous pf games, so many said it's overly complicated if you aren't used to the rules. Saw this in sale and figured it was worth the risk at the price. They aren't wrong, there are a lot of complexities. Kind of wish there was a skill tree to help with understanding how to get some of the later feats and which ones might be blocked later behind class restrictions so I'm not having to constantly redo the toon. But I do find it a great game, feel like they could have offered you a way to delegate the crusade more so everything isn't so hands on, feels like they out 3 different games into this, one exception org with two more squeezed in that slow down and lose the since of urgency of the main quest. Overall really happy though more then enough game for the money, just a lot to learn and it's not always obvious where you might have messed up until it's to late
@ryanp.7284
@ryanp.7284 3 жыл бұрын
You're awesome Mortismal!
@donprudenzio
@donprudenzio 3 жыл бұрын
So, it’s still a very deep game. But in comparison with Kingmaker it’s definitely more newcomer friendly? I found Kingmaker pretty overwhelming. Thinking about retrying, but perhaps this time the turn-based mode will give me a better understanding of what actually is going on during combat. Some fights can get a bit confusing, even when using the pause option.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd say this will be easier to get into than Kingmaker for sure
@johnreynolds2512
@johnreynolds2512 3 жыл бұрын
I'm off work next week, which I didn't plan to line up with WotR's release, but I know what I'm doing with my time off.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I actually took like a split week off last week and this one to get the content up for launch lol
@jiafei6833122
@jiafei6833122 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like an awesome game. Will give it a try. Thanks for the review.
@DuelMp5
@DuelMp5 3 жыл бұрын
Was that.....a Raptor?
@Nalier
@Nalier 3 жыл бұрын
omg timers like that I can live with. I'm really excited about mythic paths, but I wish they've added archmage as well...
@triplerrr0001
@triplerrr0001 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I can't wait to play through this myself. Can I request videos from you on how to unlock all the mythic paths?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I have ones available for everything that was in the beta already, I think they're labeled mechanics because I talk about their abilities and stuff but I go over how to unlock them as well
@brendanmckenna7613
@brendanmckenna7613 3 жыл бұрын
10:20 what rules are you referring to when you say things have been taken from the second edition?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Things like Aeon being lawful
@SittingBlue96
@SittingBlue96 3 жыл бұрын
I made a Lord Soth Portrait set that is pretty hillarious considering my toon is a gnome.
@markadkins1842
@markadkins1842 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is familiar with the setting, but not the actual adventure path: I have a small story question (so minor spoiler to other readers, maybe): . . . . . . Do the Low Templars appear in this story, and if so, would it be plausible to play one as your main character? I don't need to know what there role is in the story (if, indeed, they appear), but they represent a character concept I always thought would be cool for that Adventure Path - so I'm wondering if I could play one in this game. I hope that was phrased as spoiler free as possible.
@marceloazcona8032
@marceloazcona8032 3 жыл бұрын
Not per se. This prestige class doesn´t appear directly but, you can do it by multiclassing a paladin (or another class with power against the demons) with a thug having this way nearly the same skills and proficiencies.
@likeorasgod
@likeorasgod 3 жыл бұрын
I really couldn't find much info on the prestige class so maybe it's something they didn't have the rights for but they sound very much like the Condemned, which are crusaders that broke laws and where sentence to serve in the crusade. So there is mention about those in the story, but like Marcelo said you can prob do something with a mix of class to make something like one. Kind of sound like a mix of a Slayer/hunter/Ranger and Cav with a little Rogue thrown in.
@MangyB4033
@MangyB4033 3 жыл бұрын
I'm you got a copy you're the only youtuber I *really* trust that has a review up yet. Do mythic paths make the game easier? I found a good balance in Kingmaker so I'm wondering if I'll need to adjust. I'll probably never beat Kingmaker though, sadly, since I lost my 100+hr save to a SSD wipe.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Oof but also the mythic paths are balanced by much stronger enemies, so even though you will definitely have more power so do they
@treetalk5435
@treetalk5435 3 жыл бұрын
Idk if I missed it but is this only Real-Time with Pause or does it have the turn based feature from the previous entry?
@chanm01
@chanm01 3 жыл бұрын
This was a long time coming. I feel like I've been watching your coverage of this title for at least a year, haha. Glad everything turned out well for WotR and Owlcat~! About the bugs, its always a shame when a product ships with bugs, but I think at this point it's to be expected. As long as the bugs aren't egregious - as they were in the 1.0 for Kingmaker - the developers get a pass from me. I'm glad you covered this point in your review. How long is a typical playthrough of the campaign? Not that this is the sort of thing that normally goes into a review. I'm more just trying to see how many evenings I should budget for this once I pick it up. lol
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
About 50-60 hours I'd say
@Arcling
@Arcling 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming 60 hours with completing every side quest? So this game is shorter than Kingmaker? Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, seeing as there is a lot of potential for replayability with all these mythic paths.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@Arcling oh it's shorter than kingmaker for sure
@DomiNate313
@DomiNate313 3 жыл бұрын
Did anyone have trouble with fps today on launch? Getting like 40-55 fps on a decent rig, it makes me sad that no reviews have mentioned this.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
If it happened after a few hours each time that's a common unity problem
@proverbialking3452
@proverbialking3452 3 жыл бұрын
Are the enemies damage sponges like in Kingmaker? And are Boss fights designed around real time with pause?
@synoxify
@synoxify 3 жыл бұрын
is the scenery more changing than kingmaker? i tried to finish the game so often but i allways felt like the 1st 30-40ish hours all used the same tileset with simiilar enemys, which bored me so much that i allways stopped playing, couse it felt like nothing was happening for ages
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like it is
@chrispuglise9547
@chrispuglise9547 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, do you have any sort of video going into the advantages/disadvantages of multiclassing? I feel like I'm studying for a final exam when trying to learn Pathfinder's classes/archtypes, and swimming around in forums/subreddits only made that double. Seeing builds that benefit from multiclassing to a substantial degree, or others that aren't worth taking full advantage of after a point is really blowing my brain box apart. From a 5e background, I always thought multiclassing was the big "no-no", and after playing Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2, it makes me leery in most cases from losing out on capstone abilities.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Well I have videos on every class and it's mechanics, there's not one catch all answer for you though, it rest just comes down to figuring what class features and things you can stack effectively
@frzkhrx
@frzkhrx 3 жыл бұрын
Can somebody tell me about the "Devil" mythic path? i have seen it in the wiki but theres no info there, i also read on reddit that its kind of like swarm/gold dragon/legend where u have to pick a certain mythic paths early on that transform to those late game mythic paths, i wanted to know whether it is confirmed or not, whether its coming with the full release or will it be some kind of DLC. PS i also wanted to know whether or not you can turn off the Lich pet/familiar, i kinda like it but for immersion sake i hate walking around with a dead corpse especially out of combat
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have a video tomorrow
@steve_jackson9933
@steve_jackson9933 3 жыл бұрын
Have a few hours in it. It is miles better than kingmaker. I was bit overwhelmed at the character generation part, so many options. So far I am really impressed, I find i am actually reading the text and following along instead of Skip, Skip. The only annoying thing so far is I think a bit of a better tutorial on how to put items on the action bar. It took me way too long to figure that out. It was easy once I got it, but not very intuitive, I was used to dragging and dropping from the inventory.
@fic1406
@fic1406 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, cheers!
@_Dingu
@_Dingu 3 жыл бұрын
So if I wanted to chose the Gold Dragon path, I'd have to use one of the early game paths for a large chunk of the game? That's a bit of a bummer.
@un1qu3identif1er
@un1qu3identif1er 3 жыл бұрын
A massive RPG with a sprawling world and an abundance of characters, quests and places... yet no word from the reviewer about the quality of the story? D: That's the reason why RPGs were made in the first place!
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Was trying to avoid spoilers, and I actually talk about seeing the decisions culminate at the end
@un1qu3identif1er
@un1qu3identif1er 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming Thanks for the reply! How's the story though in terms of depth, believability, originality, presentation, etc.? Is it bland old good vs. evil told through cliches? Is it a smart reimagination? Is it truly original? Clever? If it were a book, would you recommend it?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@un1qu3identif1er it's actually six ttrpg books converted into a video game lol subjective points aside I enjoyed it and found it unique. There's parts where you wind up in more fantastical places, there's a bit of mystery to unravel and things aren't always what they appear to be. Combined with all the moving parts that are the mythic paths it's a great time.
@un1qu3identif1er
@un1qu3identif1er 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming Perfect :) thanks!
@casuality9137
@casuality9137 3 жыл бұрын
Can you already comment on whether playing a certain mythic path will definitely cause companions to leave which disagree with your choice? E.g. can you play a Lich as anything else than purely evil and keep, say, Seelah or other good-aligned companions?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Companions will leave
@casuality9137
@casuality9137 3 жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming Too bad, but not surprising. I really hoped there would be the option to play "gray" instead of purely black and white, but maybe that would have been to much to implement. Will you include the information which companion leaves in which mythic path in your upcoming companion video?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That info is mostly out there already, everyone leaves swarm, camellia leaves aeon, seelah leaves lich, pretty sure there's more
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