Pathfinder WotR: Unfair Solo Kineticist - Tavern Defense

[@aciarduce]

"What are our casualties?!" "Minimal!!" "I think there were like... only 3 of us left at the end..." "...MINIMAL!!!"

[@Ahglock]

Its based on the defensive structures, basicaly if you kill the alchemists quick enough so you still have 12/12 defensive structures you can be the only one standing and the answer is minimal.

[@aeidengtfo6758]

Nah i had 1/12 remaining and it was minimum losses as well.

[@tomimn2233]

My man turned into the Avatar with all this bending

[@t2av159]

hes a mad man!

[@Ahglock]

Level 8 by the time you did this, im clearly playing the game wrong. I was only level 3. No way could i solo with my skills, I had a hard enough time with a full party.

[@Leonion6]

Playing solo with experience sharing off can give you enough xp for 8 levels in act 1. Here is a list of all sources of XP in act 1 (or at least it was when I last played the game): docs.google.com/document/d/1ufebI_h2ukGrhTfnYEcFPvJaMBnXj_sv/edit?usp=share_link&ouid=109215053771182257452&rtpof=true&sd=true In a game with balance like that a full party is not necessarily better than a single strong minmaxed character (such as CHA stacker) because quality often triumphs over quantity. A kineticist is a particularly good example of this because their damage directly scales with level and they have nearly 0 synergy with the rest of the party anyway (the don't really need any buffs and don't benefit from them, especially after they learn wall/deadly earth/cloud). Their only problem is being glass cannons. In the past there were good summoning scrolls in act 1 shop that helped with that, but a few months ago the devs robbed that shop and only left low-tier junk in it, so pure kineticist is probably no longer possible. I would even say that in the past playing solo was easier on unfair if you had the right class. In act 1 you had scrolls to help you get get a few extra levels and in the future you would always be about 5 levels ahead of a full-party build. Not to mention that cheesy builds like all sorts of witch of the veil dips are only viable when playing solo. But after the robbery of act 1 shop and a bunch of other nerfs that happened a few months ago one after another playing solo definitely became more problematic & less fun, imo, with much fewer options than before.

[@Ahglock]

@@Leonion6 Thanks.

[@Goku61394]

@@Leonion6 so based on that Google doc you can be level 10 by the end of act 1, do you happen to know what level you could be if you had a full party with you

[@Leonion6]

@@Goku61394 well, divide that xp number by roughly 5-5.5 (if you have exp sharing off in prologue and early stages of act 1) or by 6 exactly and you'll get something in between level 5 and level 6.

[@Goku61394]

@@Leonion6 noted thank you 🙏

[@adryld25]

wouldn't water be better for high dc grease?

[@Leonion6]

1) Only fire elemental engine gets a huge speed bonus which is very useful in a solo run. 2) Slick only lasts 1 round if you don't spend burn, it's useful when you have a full party, not so useful when you play solo. 3) Kineticist's DCs of wild talents depend on constituaiton, but personally I prefer dexterity build for EE kin as I find that attribute much more important. 4) On unfair, enemies' stats are so bloated that I always assume enemies will save against all my DCs and combat maneuvers with 100% chance, so I just bruteforce them with pure damage instead.

[@adryld25]

@@Leonion6 you where at full burn anyway, could a casted several 5 min Grease before the attack and water gets more ac because it gets magic shield for ever which stacks with mage armor which stacks with scaled fist/ monk ac. I play on unfair with party of 6 and I started with a psyco.k fire Camellia and fire blast kept getting spell resisted. Even with all spell pen + elven passive. I switched to water still in act 1 and have been abusing grease on unfair it's not even funny but yeah definitely turn based and party of 6 is a completely different game. But yeah her ac is only at 29 (lvl5) so not enough to tank hits on unfair but great cc/range/melee DMG. My tank gets up to 37 ac at lvl 5 lol

[@adryld25]

@@Leonion6 is there no spell resistance in the video? :O I know fire-fire ignores spell resistance at some point but I thought that was lvl 14

[@Leonion6]

@@adryld25 , AC is irrelevant on unfair for a kineticist, especially a solo one, so any investments into it are a waste of points. My AC is my speed and illusion scrolls, stoneskin too. As for spell resistance - cultists have no spell resistance iirc and neither do dretches. Schirs and that minotaur have it (15 and 11 respectively, but I'm level 8 here), but I guess I was lucky this time.

[@adryld25]

@@Leonion6 AC doesn't matter only in solo and only while not un turn based. Turn based you need AC lol. Completely different game, I did solo in kingmaker but it's kinda boring imo. But yeah as I guessed being 2 levels higher is enough to overcome spell resistance most of the time at equal level on party of 6 energy blast get resisted literally like 50-60% against relevent enemies on unfair. Some composite blasts like steam bipass spell resistance so I do water until steam. I just finished act 1 with my unfair party and Minagho at the end got cc'd by k.'s grease and she never got back up lol easiest fight ever.

[@mastery7901]

How'd you summon that water beast?

[@Leonion6]

Scroll of summoning. It was before the devs robbed act 1 shop of all the cool stuff.((

[@mastery7901]

@@Leonion6 Really? :( Wow, it looked so cool. Have the devs perma locked it out or is it locked based on levels mate?

[@Leonion6]

@@mastery7901, yep, they made all those scrolls only available since act 2 where most of them become useless.

[@arpomo]

Hello! Can you please tell which interface modification you are using?

[@Leonion6]

I think only bubble buffs directly changes UI (those 3 buttons in the bottom left corner). I also use "highlight hidden objects" from toybox because I hate playing "find a needle in haystack" and this game has terrible detection radius for hidden stuff (in another game my skill slave mercenary with 50+ perception couldn't see objects if they were further than like 2 meters from him).

[@FatBunny168]

friend, you can take 8 people in a party? what mod?

[@Leonion6]

it's not an active party, it's just how companions are displayed in the tavern/Drezen/etc. Although in vanilla it only shows 6 of them at a time (and you have to scroll to see more), but with bubble tweaks mod the UI is changed to display 8 instead: www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/177

[@FatBunny168]

@@Leonion6 thank. do you know any mod that allow more party members?

[@Leonion6]

@@FatBunny168 , no. Though I think you can do it with toybox by forcibly adding more companions to your party. Iirc it worked for me when I was testing stuff but I'm not sure how well it will work in normal gameplay.

[@aspektx]

So the average top level before the Crusade begins is around 6 or 7. And you can summon huge elementals with Kineticist at those levels? If I'd only known! O.0

[@HolyDawntaker]

@@aspektx it was a scroll he used, a successful use magic device check will allow to use scrolls on any level. The higher level the scroll the higher the dc