Pathologic 2: Suffering as a Performance.

[@DieHardjagged]

Be prepared for blown out Ears starting just right after 49:09, you are welcome.

[@lorcanoriordan340]

Brother, I was falling asleep and this scared the living sh*t out of me!

[@twitchywriter]

The venn diagram of people who love Pathologic and people who love 2hr long video essays is a circle.

[@TheXell]

Then I'm a freak in yet another way I guess. I've seen multiple huge video essays on both games but you'd literally have to pay me to play them.

[@hd.kendra]

You're not wrong!

[@bubblybuttons3042]

This

[@Skrullyy]

Fr 😭😭😭😭 ​@@TheXell

[@L7AVANZ]

Or 2 circles that don’t connect lol

[@crabot]

only an "honorary" inmersive sim because you can't stack boxes

[@CharlatanWonder]

Artemy Burakh may be able to follow the lines, but he can't stack the boxes and he needs to make Sticky crawl through vents for him.

[@robertnomok9750]

Haha. But in reality its a more imsim that like half games on this channel.

[@erinradach3990]

I was massively infected for large parts of my play-through, and I played it on a laptop that struggled and stuttered massively. It seemed appropriate.

[@Ditchhead]

Thank you for putting the "THIS GAME HATES YOU" crowd on blast. No Icepick didn't design the game to hurt you, testing the limit of the player's patience is the most sadistic thing they do in their games.

[@CharlatanWonder]

The premier is when it because this video is going to be nearly 2 hours long and I want to make sure everyone's had a chance to get some lunch.

[@Endarerzdr]

Thanks for the years of continuous effort in (im assuming) something you love and as do we

[@mumuysomethin4423]

Jokes on you, I watch your videos during lunch 😤

[@CharlatanWonder]

@@mumuysomethin4423 You're about to have a loooonnng lunch then.

[@trulyinfamous]

I tend to avoid premieres and wait until later to watch the video. I can't explain why tbh.

[@bazooka544]

could REALLY hear the need for a throat lozenge crawling in around the 3/4ths mark. damn, dude. anyway. i stopped and posted a vague comment for Ye Algo, then took some time to get in a good place to enjoy this. i legitimately didn't expect this to lean into the role of artemy. it was wonderful getting to a point where our opinions of ingame events differed, and suddenly realising this *REALLY* wasn't a longer and better rehash of the last video. doing many stories justice in a retelling means being good at storytelling yourself. i hope you're very proud of this! (and hope to see more of it in future!) your artemy is a bag of sour onions, btw. chef kiss. thank you for all the work, and for the many more rewatches i'll inevitably have in the future!

[@TheKillianKanVT]

My friend actually knows a writer for pathologic. She's a very nice, ableit little bit crazy lady. Truly a marvel of russian writing. Game is incredibly deep. There is also a tabletop game that is sort of a sequel to the story, but it's not a "story" game, but a "mafia" like game, where players fighting the plague and each other. But they must also cooperate (or sabotage or steal clues to learn how to make a panacea) or they will lose. Plague is invisible, everywhere and nowhere, deadly, sneaky. it slowly progresses. Each district gives a buff to plague (one give a second action per turn). Fascinating game, very deep, but very simple to pick up. Although after 50-ish games it becomes obvious how to play in most effective way.

[@7218234]

most games are played like 10 times tops, so 50 playthroughs is a lot

[@SeamusCameron]

@@7218234 - Not necessarily when tabletop gaming is concerned. You can play 5+ games of Catan in a dedicated game night easy.

[@SulMatul]

Ahhh once more we return to the town I love

[@tehawsumninja]

We got yours, Mand's, Sul's, now all we need is Hbombs and all fourhorsemen of the Pathologicalypse will have come...

[@CharlatanWonder]

Hbomb does go over Patho 2 in his Pathologic video so that's four right there. He was just more efficient and did both games in one video.

[@tehawsumninja]

@CharlatanWonder true, but he did say we were all gonna meet back in 6 months after he played it through a couple more times. I'm looking forward to when the timeloop distortion ends and 6 months has finally come.

[@mckennaa3641]

​@tehawsumninja I remember he tweeted that the pandemic put him off of working on that video for a while. Hopefully Pathologic 3 will get him interested in making it again

[@tehawsumninja]

@@mckennaa3641 agreed!

[@vincentbatten4686]

There's the grimbeard and codex videos, so it's more like a knights of the round table.

[@PeteOfDarkness]

Me in 2005: I wonder what game it is. 2019: OH GOD, IT'S BACK. 2020: OH GOD, IT'S BACK. 2022: OH GOD, IT'S BACK. 2024: OH GOD, IT'S BACK. Anyway, I'll be sniffing crushed paracetamol, glass shards and rat poison for next 2 years. Merry Christmas!

[@StormyBuckets]

5:45 yesterday my grandma bought us a box of fancy citrus fruits for christmas. I'm not a fan of those, but i DID like the crinkly paper strips it was packaged in. I brought it all into work today to give it to the mice there- fancy mice, raised as museum animals and food for our raptors, not wild mice- and they were so happy! Paper bedding holds tunnels and burrows really well, but most of them are too dusty to be safe for mice, so i was super happy to give them something that was better for them.

[@ManBung]

This fellow is 100% a Pathologic character here

[@slasher7991]

There is only 1 rat in pathologic 2. What you called rats re actually jerboas

[@CharlatanWonder]

My brain autocorrected that to "Jermas"

[@gorslax_5115]

@@CharlatanWonderwell… he is basically a giant rat tbf

[@shodanargie1574]

The Bachelor route for 2 is apparently being called Patho 3 to avoid working with the same publisher

[@cyberninjazero5659]

Oh, sad to hear that the devs had trouble with the publisher, but I'm glad that they're still working on the other routes

[@Tezla0]

what problems do they have with the publisher?

[@fazzeaibrag]

​@@Tezla0game didn't perform that good, so the previous publisher dropped them

[@hibanamain5709]

They signed up with Tiny Build so they can get advertising Tiny Build proceeded to do little to no advertising, also really made it difficult to interact with anyone from the community with how aggressively they policed their reddit and discord until people just made their own

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Was it a early access or Kickstarter game like this? If so I couldn't give a single fork and good the whole point of early access and Kickstarter is to skip the publisher and come straight to us the consumer to find all this so if the try to have their cake and eat it they deserve to get screwed over for their greed and anti consumer crap Stop encouraging anti consumer slimy tactics and have a shred of standard's so this already broken and butchered industry might get a slight bit better

[@DubbrRucky]

found u cause of content, stuck around cause of the work, learned cooking skills i use all the time because u rock,. dude from someone unhealthily on youtube, youre videos geniunely make me happy. ty

[@simpiil]

2 hours of Pathologic content as an early christmas present, what a treat!

[@RenaissanceSloth]

I've watched Hbomber video essay on Pathologic. Now I'm ready for Charlatan's pain simulator of Pathologic 2.

[@thomswapp2052]

this is the fourth pathologic video i have watched in the past 5 years. one of the best I really enjoy your video flow. really looking forward to your future content. Not to say that i haven been watching your content for years at this point.

[@jonesy279]

The Moment of Appreciation really positively affected me more than I was expecting. Thank you for that and for all of the excellent work you do. I hope you can take your own “MoA” if you read this ❤

[@a.titanum]

I beat P2 in 2020 and cleared all three routes of Classic last week. Just in time for a 2 hour long review video *chef's kiss*

[@Hogarth420]

I played this game for like 20 hrs then I got depressed and stopped playing it, I wanna go back to it but I just get so sad

[@VaqueroCoyote]

My favorite core memory with this game was even when you found a gun, I still loved that feeling of dread you'd get before having to make a trek across town knowing things can get nasty and you might not make it, accompanied with all the horrific ambience of the plague stricken neighborhood. Idk I'd just imagine myself scared in the in-game room as I loaded my revolver, like I was putting it away in my coat to reach in for should I come across any crazies on my walk at night in the dark. Then while on the run itself you were just looking around like a paranoiac afraid that the next person you meet would be the last thing you see.

[@artmanxp]

I can't wait til you can play as the Bachelor in this game because if you're having this much of trouble and you belong here what would the outsiders perspective be?

[@tairyu2574]

This game. I remember getting through the first few days, rescued a baby for a reward, then decided to put it down for a bit. Judging from the atmosphere, I could tell that might be the happiest ending I’d get. It can be rough, but this game has a great atmosphere.

[@thestargamers3325]

I really liked this. It felt like I got the experience of playing the game in a way i wouldnt from a lets play or video essay. You did a great job with the storytelling!

[@hickumu]

I'm a pretty new patron to your Patreon so this is the first of your storytelling videos that I've seen but tbh I am now RAVENOUS to see more. This was SO intense and compelling, it felt like an audiobook or a film. It made me want to try the game myself, just to see if I can feel things as deeply as you seemed to be feeling them.

[@mcloverboyo]

Coming back to this channel and every single time I just can’t believe the numbers. Some of the highest quality gaming evaluation content on the platform and you just don’t get nearly as much appreciation as you deserve.

[@semeras]

this is a very VERY good video thank you for making it

[@lucyarisato6850]

Ah yes. The Tormentous Nightmare, as prophesized.

[@lucyarisato6850]

6:01 ...thanks, Charl. I...really needed that today.

[@lucyarisato6850]

Also, shoutouts to Shmowder Productions on YT, who made a video not just on Pathologic but also the board game(?!?!) that exists for Pathologic. You play as 2 of the doctors and one player gets to be the Plague itself!

[@Jonathantgood]

Merry Christmas Mr Wonder I know this probably sounds hokey but thank you for all the entertainment that you bring us It's quite a journey keep on keeping on.

[@MidnyaDaCow]

You do really well telling stories of your playthroughs and that really shines through here, i could feel the desperation, the depressed feelings the apathy as you struggle through the plauge. Very well done, i'm happy you got through it.

[@archhhhhh-s5e]

i love the quality of these videos, seriously hats off to you char

[@DemienC.]

My main question is: Does time flow slower in steppe than in town, like it was in original Pathologic? Because it's was only thing which helped me with being on time with some task. And not many actually noticed it in previous Pathologic.

[@princesselfbar-ti9ri]

nah, it's tied to your character's movement. it only stops when you're in a dialogue with someone.

[@DemienC.]

@@princesselfbar-ti9ri In original Pathologic in steppe time flow exactly like in real world. 1 minute in game to 1 minute real world. While in town flows faster. Playing for Changeling there was one instance when player need to reach one place VERY fast. Most didn't managed to be in time. BUT! It's possible if player will make detour via steppe.

[@arglebargle42]

I'd also like to add Icepick Lodge's title The Void if you want more, but it isn't quite like Pathologic though in unpatched form it is just as unforgiving

[@Brilchan]

the cat pictures you use on the video are really cute

[@bulutcagdas1071]

One of my favorite games right here. You have to treat everything as a serious life or death situation, otherwise you won't be surviving the ride. Fun fact, the game will end one way or anther, if you manage to survive till the end. You can skip every single quest and just keep scrounging for food and water. It is fascinatingly well designed in that regard.

[@corwyn-corduroy]

I don't see anyone else commenting on this, so I just want to say; you are Definitely at your best when doing narrative videos, Charl!! I love all your videos, but this and the Kenshi videos are my favorites from you. I love the stories you weave with them and your voice would be perfect for audiobooks if you ever decide to do something other than YT. Keep up the good work ✨

[@heyitsmort7744]

Love how the internal monogue voice got more and more noir / intense as things went on

[@JimFaindel]

Love to see the little kitty boxmaxxing

[@EonEsper-Kriz]

The town is infected and your gun is your scalpel, lol.

[@61f757r34m]

This game is a mood and i can only get a glimpse from this video, but the visuals and narrative design is so strong and your presentation of "everything" going down was fantastic.

[@CharlatanWonder]

Thanks. I think it was the best move for me to accept that there's no way to tell the viewer *all* the ways that everything can go down, so instead I showed *a* way things can go down to the best of my ability. Patho2 has an unfathomable amount of stuff going on every in-game day,

[@adrgs12]

This video was amazing, I love this type of telling a story while reviewing the game, even if its your story

[@zaiden2becausejustzaidenisused]

it wasn't ever brought up as an example but codex entry's pathologic series is great, it's only got all the bachelor stuff atm (patho1, marble nest) but it's all acted by a swathe of people and very storytold like this

[@JimFaindel]

2 hours?! OF PATHOLOGIC?! God bless your weary and extra saucy soul!

[@robinronin]

yES!! More content of people talking about Pathologic for hours. My hunger for Pathologic content can never be satiated.

[@cmd3019]

this is one of the best Christmas surprises I could've gotten

[@Dextear]

1:42:37 Personally, I'm screaming about you CONSTANTLY calling the Abattoir "the Termitary". You even did it with Oyun's dialogue telling you what it is on screen!

[@arachnidterror]

the way he didn't even go to the termitary is taking me out LMAO

[@cactusfondler9989]

Be nice to Clara or else

[@CharlatanWonder]

No.

[@cactusfondler9989]

​@@CharlatanWonder You're gonna regret this decision

[@synka5922]

they call souls players masochistic, but in reality its the pathologic 2 and rainworld players

[@vadredant]

As someone who did two of three routes i pathologic 1, poked at the void, and loves rainworld and godhand. I guess i can no longer avoid my friends accusations of Gaming masochism.

[@rocket_hops]

the storytelling style is my favorite thing ever, if you needed to hear some encouragement

[@NoJusticeMTG]

You mean they didn't add the difficulty sliders so I could play on 200%?

[@T0RSE]

I'm glad you liked the game enough to give it another go, and are even thinking of running through it again! also thank you for making a vid on patho at all! I think even if it's niche it deserves more attention and love than it got. it definitely doesnt deserve just 10 youtubers showing the intro because "oooh spooky" then dropping it immediately after the actual game starts 😭 that being said, there are a few statements that arent exactly correct. I think this would have benefitted with a bit more research. It's a complex game, I get it, but I'm sure the comments section is letting you have it over a few things haha but yeah, I appreciate the effort put into this vid, and there were some great funny comments! also your cat is adorable

[@IceI3laze]

pathologic. The game that taught me that games arent art but something to experience, is an actual survival sim and knowing the hobo economy is more important than hard cash 70% of the time

[@Skuttie]

This game is Pathologic, too.

[@PretendCoding]

I forgot about the mid-vid cooking! It's that and "my art is not content" sentiment that I began following you in the first place. Love this channel!

[@veritasetcaritas]

I love your videos, and this was one of your greatest.

[@Voxavs]

We might not see the third game for a while. The studio head apparently stole his son in midst of some drunked debauchery. Hot Russian game dev drama for you folks.

[@weddman100]

I've been around your channel for years, weren't youtubes new star, you did you and just keep doing you. And please review rogue traders dlc

[@erwinbogumil207]

I think its great to have someone embrace a game llike this in a video format. It ads to the experience to ahve someone act out the playthrough, besides the fact that games are made to lose yourself in, after all "Immersion" is at risk to become part of the ever droning buzz of the times.

[@indigomoonfly2114]

pathologic i love you pathologic i love you I just played through 2 again and I will never be normal about it, I have over 360 hours in classic and over 130 hours in p2. i love you pathologic

[@indigomoonfly2114]

you can save murky by studying the antibiotics and getting the blood to daniil before the crowstone quest its not hard....

[@indigomoonfly2114]

I am the pathologic fan screaming about all the things you missed. sigh. the relationship between the healers is one of the most important things to me, and that's the case in p1 where artemy is just a guy who only cares about his duty and this one guy he met day 1 and called him his soulmate, that's usually the artemy I play

[@JeanLucMG]

Thank you for the christmas / birthday gift of reviewing my favorite game! ❤

[@lordfriedrick7911]

Pathologic 2 is like a second play of a theater tragedy You know the general story, but it's half improv, so it can end differently every time you replay the game/recite your role in the play

[@brianparker5323]

I appreciate the hard work you put into this and all your videos. And I appreciate the fact that you have done this video and played this game so I don't have to. I will live vicariously through other people's works on this one, because I know enough about myself that I would hate playing this game. I feel second hand anxiety just watching it. I must admit that your idea of playing this as a storytelling exercise is an interesting one. Maybe a mark of its quality is that I didn't realize you were doing it? I just thought you were having a really bad run and were sticking with it through all the bad luck and horrible situations. Which you were, but you made it preformative and I appreciate the work you put in. Not all games would allow this kind of creative freedom to pull something off, but if there's any genre that would consistently give you a canvas to work with, immersive sims is a good place to look. I always look forward to your work, but this adds another layer of interest and appreciation to what you do. Look forward to whatever you do next. Enjoy the holidays in whatever way you choose, and give the cat a pets, if he's in the mood for it.

[@Dajudge06]

I appreciate the steak cooking tips, my dad is always the one who does the steaks so I have had to do alot of experimenting with what Ive cooked. The tips for thick steaks and thin steaks will be something I take to heart as I have been doing low heat to get a more thorough cook but I see that was wrong. Grill has to be probably the best my steaks have turned out but there is that whole pain in the butt of setting that up instead of the stovetop.

[@maxwellvindman7212]

Marika bathed the village of her home in gold, knowing full well that there was no one to heal.

[@trxsh_oc]

i will say there is a moment if you're allowed into the polyhedron and talk to the halfsouls and kids. the devs left messages at the end of the game through them. the rat ending. there was a moment where one said "this is just a facade of another mans dream." meaning the remake as a whole. i think that speaks volumes. that being said the guy who directed and wrote most of these ended up being caught talking to his students in university when he taught.

[@DankHank41]

Talking what way bro

[@savannahkarnes8591]

been on antidepressants for years and never cry but damn does charlatan wonder always get me misty eyed… i acknowledge the ways he was wrong abt the game (who cares? me and my friends, sorry) but appreciate that he was doing what he does best and weaving an interesting narrative. he (along with other factors obv) got me thru hard times and now im gonna dive thru and watch my fav vids by him. if u like immersive sims i recommend the channel

[@Luna-1re]

My fav youtuber covering one of my best games ever, thanks god

[@-hagfish893]

What coincidence! Just finished the game yesterday. Based on what I read I'm very lucky to reach the end on first playthrough with intended difficulty, now it's time to consume some video essays.

[@Glassandcandy]

I love that I first played these games at the height of the pandemic- it made it into a once in a lifetime experience not replicable

[@rocket_hops]

well if youre going to give me the time to think about something nice, i might as well share it. Had my gallbladder taken out a week or so ago, and in the middle of that 14-on-the-scale pain level, i lost my glasses, spent the whole 4 days at the hospital asking if anyones seen them etc, here only to find that my partner found them in the weirdest spot in the car... that was pretty damn neat how he tore through alternate realities to get my glasses back :)

[@EonEsper-Kriz]

I like the Bachelor better than the Haruspex, lol.

[@tinycrimester]

i enjoyed the storytelling a lot.

[@i_vasisualy]

DIdn't expect the warrior cats references. Loved the books as a kid. Great vid!

[@casedistorted]

ooo this should be good! I never finished Pathologic 2 since its such a hard game, but I am excited for Pathologic 3 to come out. I basically got to around Day 5 or 6 when things started getting REALLY bad and then my save just got borked. It is really obnoxious all the amazing music has to be muted because of the stupid copyright system, who knew Pathologic 2's music would get the same treatment. The game gets even less coverage thanks to that.

[@matthurst6605]

Oh my god Christmas is finally here! A two hour charlatan wonder essay?!

[@olavolavson5302]

What a ride... Thanks!

[@leeawithtwoes]

i get pathologic video for christmas just like i wanted

[@blaizewatkins7953]

Thanks for another upload charlatan always feels weird saying something like this since we don’t actually know eachother but I hope you’re doing well where you at and you have continued success in thankful for your insights and the escapes from my regular day to day. Looking forward to more from you in the future and but chonkulus some extra special treats for Christmas ❤

[@TheRealNinjoj]

the "content" comment is one of the most based things and I'm so fucking glad someone said it again (i forgor who said it first but it doesnt matter) It needs to be pereptuated. - We dont make content - We make Art! Merry Christmas Mr Charlatan :)

[@DevonCosmos]

The gods have blessed me with another one.

[@therednurse]

"Oh fuck, the plague itself is here to talk shit." 😂 It's been a few years but I was confused near the end about the Termitary being the hardest section, because the Termitary is the building complex they lock hundreds of people in. The cave system that requires stealth is called the Abattoir. I remember the Termitary well because on Xbox going inside slows the game to the point of being nearly unplayable, and I've wondered if there might actually be npc character models locked in all of the rooms that you hear crying.

[@cyberninjazero5659]

16:40 "Some guy here from the City" Oh you

[@WanitaLund]

I found this game by complete accident - and got obsessed

[@BrawlerGamma]

Algo food! Enjoyed the video. Not much else to comment this time though. -w-

[@Clorox13]

We making it out the Steppe with this one ‼️‼️‼️

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

I put 20 hours into the game. I still got filtered. I fucking love Pathologic. But, as I said in my initial feedback about the game, the hunger meter just fucking breaks it. Artemy's appetite would put an ogre to shame. My sense of verisimilitude never survives the hunger mechanic.

[@Deathshead419]

Do you have that "Fight for your Art" closing speech somewhere as a separate video? If not, you should think about making it, as I'd like to spread it around.

[@CharlatanWonder]

Unfortunately no. I acutally amke it a point to write it fresh every time and record it like it was a new bit because something like that can't be copy/pasted. You gotta say it every time to keep the meaning strong.

[@Deathshead419]

@@CharlatanWonder Fair. I just wish there was some way of spreading that message far and wide. It means a lot to me, an aspiring author who hopes that my own art will one day reach people.

[@miklyk]

new char video got me geeked

[@princesselfbar-ti9ri]

none of these videos ever highlight how good the writing is.

[@leemosby7939]

I played the first one and never beat it but thought it was pretty neat, p2 crushed me never even got close.

[@snakycarnival9119]

The more I want to buy this game the more I watch about it. And then I realize just how much I would hate playing this. I'll stick with the soundtrack

[@Valtremors]

Yet to watch video but since filtering is talked about: The reason why I think this game doesn't resonate with people is because trial and error method is hard to do right. Amd patholigic has a very specific slow method of trial and error. There is no slow ramp to get up to speed, and there is a no real good way to get back to where you were easily. You can gain very little and slowly struggle to a dead end without even being able to see a bad ending. And the beginning hammers to the player that you can struggle, but you hardly affect the outcome. This happened to me, and if I'm given the most likely ending from the start, and getting there is a repetive journey of trial and error only to end up in a dead end? I think my time is better spent elsewhere. I genuinely appreciate what the developers are trying to do, and it takes real guts to stick to your guns, and the game is art and deserves thst praise 100%. But I also think they have forfeited their right to complain that there is a big set of people who paid for this and in tge end didn't like it. This is one of the games I genuinely would recommend to watch a walkthrough on youtube and then buy the product if they want to carve their own story. I get why some people were disappointed in their purchase and it is a shame that devalues the artistic side of this game. And I've been long enough to know that people do not understand nuance, so I'll elaborate in unga bunga language: Game can be terrible experience as a game. But as art, story and sole experience of it, is excellent. And most peopld wont like this, even if they try to learn to right it.

[@Valtremors]

@sirei01 That also depends. In Souls series it is part of the game, but you can also influence the experience without sliders. In normal souls gamesnyou can grind and try another route and try later again. Elden Ring specifically lets you explore anywhere else if something is too hard. It isn't just a matter of difficulty slider, because to many those feel little patronizing.

[@giornogiovannax4124]

love this video .

[@socialjusticeworm3820]

Love the cooking tutorial

[@Aarkwrite]

A new Pathologic 2 video! The Great Filter turned out to be P2 24:46 clearly the children moonlight as mighty morphine power rangers

[@OfficialBiggBenn]

Good that such a game exists for the people into it... I don't think it would ever be my thing.

[@respecttheyoshi]

Hell yeah dude. Hell yeah.

[@ericquiabazza2608]

Excelsior my friend If you ever want to "encore" this performace but with a Twist I suggest LOBOTOMY CORPORATION ALL the rules apply to it Reveting frothe beginming is not only expected but how the game is EXPECTED to be played. Clanky controlers are lore accurate, and the is a *Thicc* manual of mechanics Very esoteric and mteaphoric Beware the stokholm sindrome pass day 20, you cant go back once you stare to the abbys

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Ah Lobotomy Corporation I love it, and surrendered to it. I can't beat it and I lack the free time to do so God damn I love Library of Ruina tho, also Limbus Company, the references to classical literature

[@DrCornwater]

Came for the Pathologic gameplay Stayed for the steak side quest 😎👍

[@gutitas0787]

Great videoo🔥