Patient Ends Up in Psychiatry Trying To Trick Doctors | Chicago Med | MD TV

Doctors are suspicious of a man who allegedly was ran by a car, but in reality hides a much complex problem than just a few wounds.
From Chicago Med Season 1 Episode 12 'Guilty' - Nurse Lockwood is arrested for refusing to do a DUI blood test on a patient without his consent; Dr. Halstead discusses his impending lawsuit with his lawyer; Dr. Manning and Sharon Goodwin raise concerns about the nature of a baby's injuries.
Chicago Med (2015) The doctors and nurses who work at the emergency ward of the Gaffney Chicago Medical Center strive to save the lives of their patients while dealing with personal and interpersonal issues.
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[@deannarusso202]

“Greatest challenge I face is trying to convince ppl that depression isn’t a sign of weakness” rlly got me

[@nulnemo4214]

I found a book some time ago. It was called "Depression - the illness of strong people". At first it sounded so...weird to me. Sounded like a paradox. But then I started reading it and it made sense: it said that strong people have to support both themselves and the weak ones around them, who at the first sign of trouble give up and hang like dead weights onto the strong ones, filling the air with wails and complains. And someday it just becomes too much to bear for these strong ones. While the weak don't get depressed because they don't even fight, they just readily give up and then wait to be supported by the others. I hadn't thought about it that way.😳

[@Renegados862]

Não mesmo, é uma doença perigosa que mata os sonhos em vida, uma doença universal, sou do Brasil e lido com esse transtorno.

[@TychoKingdom]

Maybe people should just get over needing to be strong. I feel like a weak person at least in some aspects in life and it's okay. As long as everything is managed and things get done. We all have weaknesses and strengths.

[@cg9616]

Depression the common cold of mental illhealth with at least 1:4 suffering at some point. It can get better

[@marywynne7931]

It is a sign of weakness, though. There's a reason why the military won't allow mentally ill to serve. They're a weak link and a liability.

[@katscratchfever3506]

We don’t fake being depressed. We fake being happy.

[@sandrahazeltine8720]

Exactly!!!

[@phyllissowhat]

Yes, until we can’t fake it anymore

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

Well yea except all the people who like to say they’re depressed because they “think it’s cool” to be “different”

[@carolcole570]

Kat, after decades of antidepressants, I learned my depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2

[@Embrace-BB]

​@@carolcole570 but d3 is for calcium??

[@irawilliams343]

"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad." I told myself this. It's not easy living with depression. The pain is just excruciating.

[@nicolasdiez7688]

Even more if you have a good job with a good finantial situation

[@masongallagher6634]

It’s day by day because chronic depression and sadness are two different things. Even temporary depression that recovers is not the same as sad. Also bipolar disorder with depression is different too. It’s not just black and white. It’s a spectrum. Also, depression doesn’t have to be a diagnosis/cause. It can just be a symptom. So in order to treat it, you would treat it as a cause or symptom based on your diagnosis. Like having your physical health, an bad environment, an addiction, a death, etc. The cause is the situation leading to a symptom of depression. For it to be a cause/diagnosis, it would be clinical depression. Also, mood instability tends to get mistaken for depression or bipolar disorder. So would you need a mood stabilizer, an anti depressant, an antipsychotic, or an SSRI? Honestly, you can mix them for different things. It’s also a lot of the time hereditary. So genetics, environment, illnesses, social habits, physical treatment, etc. This isn’t including anxiety, ADHD, ADD, PMDD, PTSD, OCD, schizophrenia, borderline, etc.

[@masongallagher6634]

@@nicolasdiez7688 A good job with a good financial situation makes it worse. It means you’re the one with the most responsibility in the home and on your shoulders. The state of mental health doesn’t change or get better because of a good job and good pay. In fact, there’s more stress due to the responsibility. If you’re making that money, it’s you’re working overtime, weekends, side jobs, night shifts, on-call, etc. Working an extra job for that bonus. It’s not just free money, and just because it looks financially stable, doesn’t mean it is because of your take-home. It’s hard not to be depressed when you work so much. A

[@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut]

@@masongallagher6634 now imagine being a therapist who's feeling like this

[@dmf1301]

Yep. It’s even more fun when OTHER people tell you that you have no reason to be depressed. The sun is shining outside, so what’s to be sad about?

[@calypsoschaos1762]

dr. charles never fails to make me cry. he treats everyone with the compassion and softness i wish real psychiatrists did. i'm sure there out there, but i can't find them.

[@alexandramoyer8785]

@@lila2986 not many

[@shadowsnake3867]

​@@lila2986 as a person who worked in the prestigious hospitals in America Aetna is a nightmare for a lot of hospitals and getting authorizations. The best would be blue shield ppo and anthem ppo or Medicare with supplemental insurance. Or anthem blue shield. You may have gotten lucky with yours under Aetna but they are a nightmare that's why some are forced to see someone else especially for cancer patients.

[@johnwt7333]

Maybe you're just not a good patient yourself

[@choochoo-ky9kc]

@@johnwt7333 wow, that's a pretty awful thing to say to someone. hope you're doing fine

[@dietotaku]

@@lila2986 man i don't know what you do for a living but most of us can't choose our insurance. even on the marketplace, my choices were a crap cigna plan or paying hundreds of dollars a month i don't have in premiums and deductibles. i don't know if aetna's even on the marketplace, damn sure couldn't afford a policy without that subsidy. also worth pointing out psychiatrists typically only handle meds - you get 15 minutes to ID a med, figure out a dosage, check in on side effects/if it's working, and that's it. what most people think of as a psychiatrist is actually just a master's level therapist, and there are plenty of good ones out there.

[@crustyk1ller968]

"you don't need an excuse man, you're human being." One of the most true sentences ever spoken.

[@denisemwoj]

"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad." That line is EXACTLY what made me realize my depression was real and valid. My life is/was great by standards...but I just couldn't BE happy or even content. Therapy and medication has saved me (and kindness to myself)

[@jessicaarmstrong5035]

I'm happy you've been able to get help for yourself. Keep up the good work.

[@LaineyBug2020]

The kindness and grace for yourself is the biggest and most difficult step! ❤

[@pokemagetech]

I mean… if you have reasonably strong empathy, you have every reason to be sad. Look at the world. Look at all the hate being spewed, look at the tyrants and wannabe tyrants who market in fear of the “other”. I have some degree of depression. But it’s not about how I, individually, will do, I know I am capable. It’s about the big picture, whether others will be okay. Or if our rights will be trampled.

[@musicalifornia49]

same here. i could not survive without my meds.

[@nathanwilliams2152]

Well done for seeking help when you discovered you needed it. You hang in there. I have that challenge myself, and have had it for 15 years. You have no reason to justify how you're feeling. You have every right to be kind to you, and feel how you feel. Wish you the very best.

[@cooperross9495]

I recently lost my job because of my depressive episodes. The fact that this TV doctor handled it better than anyone I spoke to is...something.

[@justanotherenigma]

Hugssss!!!!! Completely understand. They don't get it nor do they want to..... If I didn't have twenty years of therapy under my belt.....

[@aninamkhonto5531]

Hi Ross I hope you feeling better now. Im sorry about your job.

[@susivarga7303]

He is a TV doctor. No real life doctor would behave like this, even if caring and professional. I love Dr Charles but half of the things he does is soooo unrealistic. You cannot detain someone only because you "know their type" and they explained their accident in too many details.

[@faristasairuv5143]

Sorry, Bro. That sucks and you deserve better.

[@A-Aiden321]

I feel so so bad for Cooper-Ross 9495

[@thebronzeage23]

"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad" "You don't need an excuse you're a human being" I wish someone would have said this sooner. Thank you Dr. Charles.

[@carolcole570]

My depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2

[@YozuLuv]

That "isn't it exhausting?" Line got me me. As someone with depression, is feels so good just to let go.

[@freckledone1073]

Depression is exhausting. It's exhausting to live. It's exhausting to not want to. It's exhausting.

[@Crow.Theodore]

This is exactly why I love doctor Charles, it was so easy to just send this guy away but he knew there was something wrong and he wasn’t going to give up until that man got help.

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

Except this is malpractice and unethical, even though it turned out he was right. You need a reason, like observable and documentable, and not just I got that vibe from him.

[@SoyDrinker]

@@gamingwhilebroken2355 SHUT UP

[@august1763]

So, they put him up in Psych., but let him keep his tie? Riiight...

[@molly-zx9cr]

Maybe it’s a clip-on 😂

[@august1763]

@@molly-zx9cr 🤣🤣🤣

[@thatomash7689]

Lol 😂 they should hire you to be a script writer since you clearly have more sense August

[@flawgic7345]

Hes in a psych observatory being monitored 24/7. You got a point but still it wont be that easy to pull off suicide in that situation. Also the patient was in denial of being suicidal so I dont think he will try any of that sort while hes being watched. His vision was to die "accidentally" so he isnt viewed as a weak minded sad individual.

[@august1763]

@@thatomash7689 🤣Thank you. Thank you. ***takes a bow

[@akaike692]

"trust me I will not keep you more than a minute" Proceeds to put him on psychiatric hold.

[@geoffreyforbes9568]

Psychiatrists do tend to be duplicitous.

[@ZaieN13]

When everything is handed to you in a silver platter and lived a comfortable life, it's difficult to accept and admit when you have depression. It feels like you have no right to be sad.

[@cremebrulee4759]

Sadly, the lie of depression isn't affected by reality.

[@jenbk2bk275]

You have no clue what depression is.

[@madisontuten9292]

​@jenbk2 bk2 As someone officially diagnosed with clinical depression, and who has lived both with everything I could ever need, and gone without basic necessities, depression doesn't discriminate. Your depression does not give a holy damn whether your situation improves or not, it will still find a way to drag you down. The guilt that comes with living comfortably and still being miserable is a killer all on its own. I live both a very high stress, yet comfortable life, I don't struggle financially, but rather with my family. There are so many components that go into why one might be depressed. Living a comfortable life =/= Happy. I've struggled with suicide. My father committed suicide, my mother had an attempt that hospitalized her, I stopped a friend at school mid serious injury (they were hospitalized.) Each one of these situations was vastly different, they each had different outcomes, they were each under unique circumstances. Depression does not discriminate.

[@jessicaarmstrong5035]

That's one thing I try to teach people. You don't need an excuse to be sad. You're human, therefore you are sad.

[@eeveequeen15]

Honestly, depression is the opposite of weakness. It's just the weight after you've fought for too long and you can't keep going it alone.

[@amelonnamedkate1400]

“I have absolutely no excuse to be sad” Really hit personally for me. I have a good life, a good family, people who love me. Yet I still get in deep depressive episodes from time to time. I get so mad at myself whenever I feel that way, because I always believe I have no reason to be sad when people out there have it worse than I do. But everyone needs to be reminded that no matter who you are, where you come from, or how you live, your feelings are always valid. The human brain works in funky ways, and sometimes we have terrible emotions we can’t control. We just have to remind ourselves that we are human, and what we feel is nothing to be ashamed of

[@mindyourbusinesbro6813]

Being “sad” and being depressed are 2 different things …

[@gabygraceffa8690]

Everything is going to be okay. You are loved and you are appreciated and I know that we will probably never meet but I hear you and I want to let you know that you are NOT alone. You can get out of this, you can do this, hang in there. Sometimes we got to fall to get back up even stronger. I know it's going to be hard but you're built for it, kid. There is no shame in asking for help

[@trinitylivingston1286]

@@mindyourbusinesbro6813 I learned that in my teens. I googled what it meant to feel lonely and sad sometimes and it said that was depression.

[@nicolasdiez7688]

This episode touched me hard. Because so many times I was depressed but forced to convince myself and others that I was fine since I got a life that many many people would kill to have. I was born and raised in a middle-up class family, I got blessed with parents that love and support me in everything who also put me through a decent school and university. That is why I refused to be seen as someone depressed, because in my eyes I had no excuse to feel unhappy. But I've learned that anyone can be sad or depressed because it's a human thing to have emotions

[@vitricewashington6510]

Everyone deals with a level of stress or anxiety, and sometimes, I would say often, it can translate right into depression. Depression and anxiety alone affect at least 2/3rds of the world.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

cheer up

[@hunterpfeifer9584]

I feel this so hard. I grew up the same way, I am surrounded by people that love me and support me more than anything. Yet still, I'd rather not be here, but I would never show or admit that to the ones I love. You aren't alone either ❤

[@vitricewashington6510]

@@lauracoates8026 Losing a child is something you never truly get over. I'm sorry that among other things have happened and I hope you still find peace during your days.

[@vitricewashington6510]

@@lauracoates8026 Some people have very closed minds, and can assume that you're fine because of the things you have. It's better to ask why you feel that way than to assume you're fine because your life sounds great on the surface. You're welcome.

[@hetaltri]

My dad killed himself in depression. He denied and didn’t let us know until he took his own life. Not only we lost him that day, we lost part of ourselves. Depression is something that needs to be treated right away. After 10 years of loosing him, our entire family is shattered and walking on eggshells around us. It’s been so hard.

[@adavanja5682]

Losing a loving parent is (like) losing a part of oneself. I feel your pain, even though my Dad died of other causes than depression. Stay strong, take care of yourself 💪

[@carolcole570]

After decades of antidepressants, my depression was caused by a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2

[@OutcastDimensionTCG]

@@carolcole570 really?? I mean docs try to tell me all the time vitamin d helps with this but it never seems to help when they prescribe it. I could be different as everyone's brain chemistry and causation is different, but I'd love to know if there's other factors. I have many vitamin deficiancies/anemia. how'd they find out?

[@carolcole570]

@@OutcastDimensionTCG All I can tell you is my own experience. When I heard Dr. Berg say this, I started taking the D3+K2 immediately…..along with my antidepressant. I chose to wait for two full months and one day stopped the antidepressant. I was thrilled to find that I no longer had to take the antidepressant anymore ! I had chosen to take 20,000 IU of the D3+K2. Since then, I am still learning about it. I have learned how important K2 is, but it is always sold as mcg, and actually works better if it is 45 MG (not mcg). I found the 45 MG just yesterday, delivering to me today ! Also, I have learned that Zinc Picolinate plus a hefty dose of Magnesium is even more beneficial with it. Look for the list and explanations of what each kind of Magnesium will do. Choose the one that relates to you. If you are extremely depressed, you may need to try as much as 40,000 IU for a few months, then maybe drop to 30,000 for a few months, then further. It is you….experimenting. In the midst of all this, your Labs will go high and your doctors will freak. When they freak, I back off for a month, THEN ramp it back up. Keep searching to see what Dr. Berg is putting out…..EVEN his “ short “ videos. I think it was one of his “ shorts “ where I learned about the 45 MG for K2. I really really hope that something I have said has helped.❤️

[@princelee1990]

It infuriates me when adults tell kids they have nothing to be depressed about .

[@HadleyStrickland]

Watching the psych slowly chip away at the patient’s emotional layers but by bit. And the endless persistence too!

[@marywynne7931]

Emotional abuse... but it's a doctor so it's okay?

[@reyreynoldswinchester8757]

To get him help for suicidal tendencies that almost involved an innocent driver… yes

[@marywynne7931]

@@reyreynoldswinchester8757 The doctor had zero concrete evidence of this. His behavior would not be justified legally.

[@l.a.3479]

It was not emotional abuse.​@@marywynne7931

[@jilla-dr9hu]

This doctor has a way of making people break. Sad part is, most doctors will just ask you if you did and try to off yourself on purpose and if you give them a convincing enough no, they will send you on your way unless they could prove otherwise such as toxicology reports from a OD and not just an X-ray of a leg. We need more people like who play Dr Charles in the show who genuinely wants to help people.

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

Because you need a tangible reason to remove someone’s rights. This incident would likely get dr Charles in legal trouble in real life.

[@hunterharris637]

Taking away free will as a psychiatrist is a huge mistake if there isnt info to back it up. It’s just like any other job. Theres huge negative consequences. What could be acceptable is a hunch from years of experience with the patient

[@kathryndavenport2725]

I wish I could find a psychiatrist like Dr Charles. He actually listens.

[@carolcole570]

After decades of antidepressants, my depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2

[@marigold3687]

@@carolcole570. Which is why test should be done.

[@lunahyacinth6335]

So first clue that no one involved in this episode has been on/seen a psych hold… the person alleged to try self termination is still wearing a freaking neck tie as well as shoes with laces. For a show that handles a lot of psychiatric involved cases you’d think they’d get the simple bits right.

[@jaceyrogers5244]

The accuracy of this entire show is pitiful

[@riley9031]

@@jaceyrogers5244oh absolutely but it’s also very funny if u look at it like that

[@vitricewashington6510]

That's an extremely good eye. I didn't notice, and I've been in that hold before. I know the drill.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Very good point. This fat lummox seems real good at getting people to cry. If yur not depressed when you go in under his care, you sure will be by the time they come back from station break

[@ChillingOut247]

The room could have cameras. A lot of wards have temporary rooms they hold you in with cameras and security watching 24/7.

[@nikkiberns1365]

When I was seeing a psychologist for therapy because I knew I needed help dealing with depression, one of the things his office had all patients do once every 6 months or so was a multiple-choice quiz. Questions like “how have you been feeling lately” and “how do you feel your grades are” (it was on campus). I filled it out and was super proud of my progress! I’m so much happier! Everything is great! I was shocked when he sat me down and very gently asked me what was going on. I thought my answers indicated progress towards happiness; they actually told him I was spiraling deeper into sadness. I still don’t know how, but I do know that he was literally the only person who picked up on that and because of it, I survived the winter in a much better mental place. Depression isn’t always recognizable, least of all to the bearer.

[@mneumonictowel]

i took a personality test for work and was shocked at how much it described my stress and anxiety

[@prettyevil6662000]

You were 'pink clouding' is likely what he saw from your responses. You likely had an abrupt tick upward in happiness instead of a gradual progression (that sometimes dips back down even!) which is what normal mental health check ins would look like. Pink clouding is an abnormal uptick in happiness while dealing with depression or peace with a traumatic event without actually processing it. It's very common before... dramatic action is taken, either because they're happier now that they've decided to exit the problem or because the second the trauma really hits them, they can't handle it now that they've denied needing help. I'm glad he identified it and you got help you needed.

[@cremebrulee4759]

​@@prettyevil6662000 thank you for this explanation. I've been in therapy on and off for many years, and I don't think I've ever heard this term before.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

@@prettyevil6662000 idk if I have bipolar disorder but one of my last I guess hypomanic episodes was actually triggered by a lot of stress. Actually, it was triggered around Memorial Day for me. (Basically, it's one of those hard days for me and kept thinking about my brother and other people in my life.)

[@carolcole570]

After decades of antidepressants, I found it was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2

[@theleichhardtlookout]

The thing that hits me hardest is that he was crying, but still smiling and trying to act.

[@jenneli314]

I am going to bluntly say that suicide at the unknowing hands of someone else, in this case an unwitting driver, is horrifically sadistic to do.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Yes, very true. Quite selfish on the part of the self-ender. Some would-be non-existers seem fond of jumping in front of high speed locomotives. They say RR engineers end up with PTSD from these experiences. Its a horrible thing to experience.

[@anndownsouth5070]

@RaptorFromWeegee you are right. My psychologist told me he had a whole file cabinet full IOD cases, mostly from the railway service. I was confused until he said it was mostly train drivers. Btw he was not trying to gossip about his clients, I made a comment on the filing cabinet. It was a beautiful vintage looking piece. Looked like an old-fashioned steamer trunk.

[@jordanjohns7896]

@@RaptorFromWeegee It’s horrible wanting to die too.

[@kydiasan21]

But that’s no excuse to put your blood on someone else’s hands.

[@truenokill]

It's not like they are in charge of their faculties.

[@Kels42]

So you suspect him as a suicide risk but let him keep his tie which easily can be used to strangle himself

[@Finn-hq8wd]

Clip on?

[@polyanthesis]

This show is about a psychiatrist who never believes patients. In real life, these patients are traumatised by this type of behaviour by doctors.

[@debblouin]

How are you doing, a year later? Have you overcome your own depression?

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

"My bad!" That would be enough for a 72 hour psych hold for me.

[@BlackironEzekiel]

Trying to hold that act truly is utterly exhausting. I dropped my act a long time ago to show that I really needed help, sadly I didn't have people like Dr. Charles to help me.

[@dars5229]

"You got all those people fooled out there," is some nice projection.

[@dollybear2809]

Dr Charles is so brilliant at his job too bad it's just a show. As someone who has had a long journey with mental illness anything like this hits hard not that I've had depression but I have OCD and social anxiety. This show does a brilliant job of showing mental illnesses without judgement

[@inheritmyshoes9559]

Great husband. Three beautiful kids. Beautiful home. Yes, my kids are special needs - but they all get wonderful services and are WONDERFUL CHILDREN and humans. I have absolutely no excuse to be sad. But I am.

[@TheFiown]

This made me cry, men have such a hard time with their emotions and depression. Depression in men is often confused with agressivity. A man I knew, three kids, nice wife, good job, lovely home actually bought a rope and handed himself in his home with no outward signals that he was depressed. Two beautiful successful, wealthy women I knew killed themselves with an overdose as for them their lives had been long enough. I stopped a young girl one day from jumping in front of a train, instinct told me to grab her and hold her and talk her down. Another day I passed a homeless guy as I was rushing along and then instinctively turned back and sat with him for two hours and he told me that he had decided to end his life as no one saw him anymore. We can't save them all but we can pay more attention.

[@Panda72021]

"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad." Well that hit harder than a sack of bricks. Yikes.

[@jessieBird96]

It's not about how good your life is or how sad you are... it's all in your brain chemistry, and it's no one's fault or a sign of weakness. Depression is a real mental illness and should always be taken seriously, and sometimes people with depression need a little tough love to help them realize that they need help ❤

[@NefariousVoid]

Him smiling with tears falling really broke my heart and reminded me of myself

[@OopsOlliePopp]

“Just do it without making my life harder” love ms goodwin so much

[@ambertregoning3821]

Okay so OBVIOUSLY I don’t agree with putting a patient in involuntary psychiatric hold with no evidence other than a hunch & it would probably never happen. BUT this still got me. Depression can cause so much shame and the desperation to hide it becomes almost second nature. I only sought help when my best friend sat me down and told me she didn’t even recognise me anymore. I made a Dr appointment and ended up breaking down in her office when she said “you don’t have to pretend to be okay if you’re not”. You can have a good job, a good family, a “happy” life, and still suffer from mental illness. As Dr Charles says, it’s not a sign of weakness. Hiding the pain is only going to make it worse

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Yeah, I think they gotta be able to articulate and document clear and present signs that the pt is an imminent danger to self or others. Guess too many housewives got frivolously committed back in the 50s so hubby could catch a break from the nagging.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

In real life they'd have probably just tried to persuade the guy to voluntarily seek out-patient care.

[@AlasBabylonxx]

Yeah this isn’t a realistic depiction at all, it’s not how it works in the real world. You can’t hold someone for a “hunch”

[@toothtown1914]

@@AlasBabylonxxif you watch the show you would know that they are allowed to put a patient on 24 hour hold before of something they see. Yes it’s unrealistic but its how they do it in the show

[@SilverStormzAndGoldenRain]

7:48, you can literally see the mask breaking, the walls tumbling down. Poor guy just can't fight it any longer, makes my heart hurt.

[@PKAC972]

A certain amount of people with successful jobs and lives have achieved them precisely because of mental illness, because they always need to be in control in an attempt to manage their inner problems.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Yeah, my grandfather was like that. Total control freak, perfectionist, workaholic, high achiever, both a lawyer and a CPA, probably had OCPD. Dad said he was very difficult to live with. Finally in his late middle aged years he had some kind of breakdown. He was said to suffer from "nervous exhaustion". Treated by a prominent New York Dr, they made him move out of his nice Westchester home and into the McAlpin Hotel, near his job. He was forced to relax and take on only minimal work. Had to eat a lot of rich high protein foods, no meds. He got better, moved home, but moved into his den for a period of time for some reason. Only after he was much better could he move back into his marital bedroom.

[@LyricalMastermind2]

Yeah, this would never hold up. No evaluation, no proof. He could absolutely sue. It's considered medical kidnapping. This is a terrible depiction of involuntary medical hold.

[@louiscyphre2267]

It's a tv show. There should be a suspension of disbelief. Get a brain.

[@DespairKarma]

They can do what was shown If it's suspected someone tried to end their own life and an x-ray shows proof of that and the person gives a way to in depth detailed description and refuses to repeat themselves and is insisting they can go home and does whatever they can to get out of the hospital fast That's a sign to put them in a psychiatric hold

[@NYD666]

​@@DespairKarma nope, there still has to be an evaluation. Accidents happen.

[@NYD666]

​@@DespairKarma I've been hit by vehicles while walking. I didn't jump in front

[@pvm0708]

It's a TV show...of course they are going to exaggerate a situation to try to make a point and teach a lesson

[@rachelh2731]

The biggest red flag to me was the sadness when he said not to bother his wife with this since she just billed 80 hours last week. I AM a wife and that is ludicrous. He genuinely believes he is a burden to her. Clearly depression. Very sad

[@targaryenxmandi]

As someone who's had depression since their early twenties, this hit me hard. Back then I had a difficult time but my parents made sure I took my medicine and even monitored me. Fourteen years later I am still keeping myself going. But the way this guy is acting? My youngest sister does act this way except she buries her emotions but react hostile if she upsets you. I'm in my thirties and gotten to that point where she starts arguments to get reactions or attention. To her feeling human makes her weak. There's times I do wish she sees that her family loves her instead of running from her problems.

[@SonicGlitchmaster1]

Dr. Charles is far and away the best character on this show

[@olya6569]

This actor who has depression is brilliant!

[@ZuerstJesus]

Agree

[@LadyMelmo.]

The tears were silently streaming down my face that was so beautifully portayed. I tried so hard to hide the damage from the abuse and torture and Bipolar and BDD and cPTSD for so long, believing like I'd been told my whole life that it was a failing in me, my fault, all I'm worth and all I deserve...until I was shown it wasn't. It's so hard sometimes, and I'll be in treatment and taking meds for the rest of my life, but I am taking some of my life back more every day. Please, if you are suffering, please know it's not your fault and please believe you deserve all of the help and support that's there for you.

[@truenokill]

Prayers ❤

[@LadyMelmo.]

@@truenokill Thank you!

[@Max-wz6cu]

I'm glad you're doing better! ❤

[@LadyMelmo.]

@Max-wz6cu That's so nice of you to say, thank you!

[@Max-wz6cu]

@@LadyMelmo. Your welcome. Wishing all the love ❤️❤️

[@feliciatierney2265]

It took me years to understand my Clinical Depression wasn't a sign of weakness or mean that I'm defective. I hid it found coping mechanisms for it that were sometimes dangerous and unhealthy...anything not to have to admit there was something wrong. Now, that I understand it and I'm properly medicated I realize how much worse I was making things.

[@ismae-rienne4991]

I didn't recognize my depression until my sister sat me down because she saw it because I couldn't do anything anymore

[@louiscyphre2267]

That's great. Hope all goes well.

[@ismae-rienne4991]

@@louiscyphre2267 I'm in therapy, on meds, and moved into my sister's house. I'm doing much better than I was

[@yayman2538]

“no- no! you cant do this!” “uhm actually i can” LOOOOOL

[@lemonlemonlemonlemonlemonlemo]

this is so important to understand. depression is the illness that tells you it doesn’t exist. depression tells you you’re not good enough to have it, or you’re too good. depression tells you that you’re not depressed, just stupid and selfish and lazy and ungrateful. depression can go step on a lego. *you don’t need to be “deserving” to get the help you need.*

[@SUNRISECANARY]

OMG this was a story in a tv show called URBAN LEGENDS.... A college student had to choose a subject for a psychiatry class, he CHOSE TO GO TO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, PRETEND TO BE CRAZY AND SEE IF HE GETS HIMSELF ADMITTED AND HE DID IT BUT HE ENDED UP MAKING HIMSELF AN INVOLUNTARY PATIENT😮😮😮

[@dressageandalusian]

There was an experiment where a psych had students who went to different hospitals and pretend to show symptoms to see if they could get admitted, they did, then they were told to act completely normal, like their true self, after being admitted to see how long it would take for them to be discharged. In the end the teacher had to go to the hospitals and explain the experiment to get them out because they were still stuck in there. Only going back to studying psych now after a bit of a break so can’t remember the name but should be able to Google it.

[@choochoo-ky9kc]

@@dressageandalusian that sounds really interesting and kinda scary at the same time, if you ever remember what it was i'd love to know

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@dressageandalusian A very dangerous and expensive game to play. That stuff doesn't come cheap plus it stays on your record and can later disadvantage you. LOL, wouldn't it a been funny if these were just the psych students the professor separated off cause he thought they really were crazy? Like he jus wanted to get rid of them and this was easier than moving for an expulsion.

[@JenniferSteil28]

Nelly Bly famously did it “first” back in 1887. She ended up spending 10 days in the mental hospital. You can read her article about it if you Google “Ten days in a mad-house; or, Nellie Bly's experience on Blackwell's island. Feigning insanity in order to reveal asylum horrors”

[@rachelh2731]

YES there was a Netflix movie based on her too with Christina Ricci. SO good!!

[@RianeBane]

"I know the type" "Way too detailed" Ah yes, right out of the DSM-V...

[@sexygirlmax2019]

well, yes. these are called symptoms.

[@jessicaarmstrong5035]

This one gets me every time. So many people think that depression is something that happens because of something going wrong with a person's life. It's not. You can have everything going right in your life and just one morning wake up and still be depressed. And it's not about being sad. It's about feeling as if the whole world is falling around you. It's about a weight in the chest that you can't get rid of. It's about not being able to get out of bed even when you're completely capable of it. It's about panicking when everything closes around you. There's this image of people with depression as if they've done something or something was done to them. What gets me about this episode is when Dr. Charles says, "You don't need an excuse, man. You're a human being." And it's so freaking true. Some are lucky enough that it never happens to them. Others have it even when they have everything right in their life. I think people need to stop telling people who have depression what depression is. People need to listen more. People need to look for the signs, like Dr. Charles did here. He automatically KNEW.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

I think I might have bipolar but the last few years, whenever something serious happened I would usually get I guess hypomanic or really energetic for days (sometimes it wasn't even caused by stress but usually was.) Once the situation went away, I was depressed. Even this last week and even yesterday, I accidentally looked at something that brought on I guess flashbacks from the past and stuff which triggered an episode.

[@Thisara1424]

Wow! We need more and more this type of precisely observating psychartist who great in their job understanding hidden minds!❤❤❤

[@kacipowers4390]

Dude gave an "over-detailed" explanation 🙄😂 I do that constantly because of ADHD, I explain every unecessary detail. Hope it doesn't get me committed

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

I'm afraid its too late Kaci, I've already contracted Earl, he's going to take you someplace quiet. And sorry but you'll have to share a room with that suicidal lawyer. Short of beds.

[@Taro_liam]

I mean you didn't step in front of a car and you probably don't have that look in your eyes/face, everyone who's sucidal has. So you're good lol

[@allierose8500]

@@Taro_liamwhat’s that look exactly?

[@lenababauta6292]

I think we all suffer from some form of depression..most of the time i think it stems from feeling alone..facing life and all it's ups & downs with no one to talk to..no one we feel will truly understand. I'm only a cashier but most days i ask strangers simple questions that lead them to talk a little about their lives. I see a light in their eyes just by me taking a true interest in them & it makes their day & mine. I once had a co worker tell me i just brighten up a room without noticing. Looking back now..i can see what she meant. It's because i truly care about a person & how their day is going..even if they were a complete stranger.

[@ajc-ff5cm]

Being locked up involuntarily like that ... that would make me go insane.

[@connorbattaya3984]

Then he was put in a psych ward and treated like an object for a few weeks

[@jacquanaclemmons7595]

Whew! This episode hits too close to home, i used to think i had nothing to be sad about wondering why am i not happy nothing is wrong with my life.. but than i had to learn sometimes depression has a way of sneaking up on you and its not your fault , its okay to get help , thank god for me getting better day by day.

[@kiayawilliams5714]

I agree with dr Charles. I’m not weak because I have depression, I’m strong cos I live through it every day and keep going.

[@donnaproctorbielski9910]

Life hurts it's ok not to be ok as long as you get help ❤

[@songbird3096]

One of the worst parts is, he was probably trying to convince himself it was an accident as well

[@AshleyBehr]

Being sad is a normal human emotion and shouldn't be stigmatized! Its ok to feel any emotion you are feeling! Dr Charles is great! Nobody has a perfect life!

[@RainbowLoxodon]

I wish not only did more people with Depression see this, but those around them reminding them about all the great things in their life and why they have no reason to be depressed could also see this

[@fernievens9088]

Depression can affect anyone, even people who have everything they want in life.

[@TheTrueDarkNight101]

the acting I fucking magic and the fact that the doc is the only one that cares says so much. this is just powerful cause it brings up depression the right way and it makes me cry just how real it is

[@candycemarko5428]

I’ve always thought it’s interesting that someone can refuse medical treatment or leave a hospital “against medical advice” even if they’re sure to pass away yet if someone wants to unalive, they can keep you by force. What’s the difference? Judgement. Someone who wants to unalive is sick, helpless, incompetent. But someone who refuses medical treatment because theyre stubborn is “strong” and praised. Makes no sense.

[@AJ-ny1ly]

The oath

[@cassie1790]

You absolutely cannot hold a patient against their will unless you know they’re a danger to themselves or others. As in, they have directly stated that they are SI and have a plan. Suspected SI, especially in a person with no history, doesn’t count.

[@marywynne7931]

Yeah but this is a TV show where smug doctors are always right

[@SuperMichelleDJ]

Okay so put me in that situation. I tell you that I'm not suicidal and I'm not a danger to myself. You have to honestly believe what I say even if I choose to go away and do it without you knowing it. So I'm only a danger to myself if I say that I'm a danger to myself? You're basically letting people get away with doing whatever they want just by listening to them use a string of words hoping they'll get away with their plans under your nose!

[@SuperMichelleDJ]

So, suspected SI doesn't count unless you see the person has actually died or has attempted? Which means that can happen over and over and over again until the person is gone. No suicide prevention here, is there?

[@marywynne7931]

@@SuperMichelleDJ OK, then we need to hospitalized everyone immediately because most people claim not to be su**idal. How do we know they're not lying?

[@o.m9514]

They way he treats him like a criminal, is quite unpleasant.

[@herbivorethecarnivore8447]

He never treated him like a criminal. Did you watch the video?

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

"no past history of depression." according to American Journal of Preventive Medicine. 60% of men who commit suicide have no prediagnosed mental illness. so history of not having diagnosed depression is a complete void argument.

[@roshellesaenz3997]

It's a struggle every day of every second. Grief is the worst, too. I wanted to do this the other day, but I didn't. It's exhausting and tiring

[@CptColumbo]

This is similar to my revelation. I always thought that depression is just being bummed out, but it can manifest in many forms. For me it was a short temper and breaking things, because I couldn't think of anything else to do. Then I listened to an NPR show about male depression that ticked a lot of boxes for me and got checked out. I'm still depressed, but have better control of my life.

[@sharonvalentine2373]

Literally me and a wonderful night shift dr in the psych Dept a year or two ago… good Drs are out there

[@dars5229]

I've broken my leg (spiral fracture of the tib and fib, pretty much one of the worst ways you can break it) and major depressive disorder. What honestly surprised me the most about breaking my leg was how much easier it was to deal with.

[@kairinase]

I like the details they put on the actors, like in 2:32, you can see Dr Charles' shirt with stain under his coat, and the disheveled look that shows he had a rough week. Real doctors have that... and it shows their vulnerable human side. From those clues, we could see how good they are, just like the first time Holmes met Watson!

[@kathconserv]

Sadness and depression are not the same thing. Sadness is a symptom of depression.

[@samanthaeddy2478]

When he said he had no excuse to be sad really got to me 😢

[@TheMarionick]

“I can actually.” Idk why but that sounded like the most epic unintentional roast ever

[@SirFishyIII]

The "I can actually" was one of the most boss responses Dr. Charles ever had to people

[@trinitylivingston1286]

Sometimes it's hard to accept that you have psychological issues even when you've lived a good life. For me it was hard to accept that I went through traumatic stuff when I've been told that I have a good life. It wasn't until I watched the video of Davids mom kicking him out on Roseanne and made some comment about it on I think the Roseanne subreddit that someone recommended to me certain subreddits that I realized that what happened to me wasn't normal. That I was traumatized, that's why I acted the way I did as a teen, in my childhood, etc. Even now the stuff that I went through as an adult. It's to the point where I'm just used to it by now.

[@trinitylivingston1286]

It wasn't just abuse I went through but some of it was. It also took until last night to realize that I was sexually abused, 12 hours ago I realized it. I already discovered that I was abused in other ways the last few months and that I am still being abused but I'm roped into it. I know it's not normal but I'm used to it. I know they love me and I can't just leave them.

[@Onlera]

Yeah, feeling depressed when things are going well is SO frustrating. Because there’s no “fix”. Like if something is specifically bringing you down, you can try to change it. But when there’s no cause, there’s nothing external to try and resolve to improve your depression. It SUCKS

[@alonewhale197]

As someone who suffer from anxiety . I used to hold my tears thinking its weak years ago but now im genuinely ready to cry whenever i want let go of my thoughts .. tears dosen't mean that you are weak it means you have been strong for too long..

[@trinitylivingston1286]

It's hard especially when you had to be the "tough" one most of your life.

[@Lemon-ce3od]

This is my comfort video

[@_adrian_sean]

This was SUCH a stretch. Yes lawyers are known to be depressed and high stressed. But the simple fact that he got hit above the knee was beyond stretched for this case.

[@kerriminx18]

As someone who hides my depression behind the face of a constant upbeat and happy woman, this one got to me. It’s so real and makes me understand that we’re all human, no one is perfect and that’s okay.

[@Danuell]

Been rewatching this. It hits hard

[@andrewdarland8600]

I can confirm I’ve gone in for reasons and they did not do an evaluation etc and they placed me under a psych hold. They knew I was depressed and had other issues before I even wanted to admit to myself that I did. I was there for 10 days and it helped. Fast forward to 1 1/2 years later I’m still struggling I’m definitely doing way better than bavk then. But I do have my days. I was diagnosed with aspd and BPD. Which is funny because they are opposites but what people don’t know is that they can either work together to form a mashup of personally disorders or your personality is basically split into 2 sections one is the BPD and the other is the ASPD. I’m going to DBT therapy and working on how to control them. And I’m hoping it works because it feels like an endless cycle. But I cant wait for life to not be hard anymore before I decide to be happy.

[@XSilver_WaterX]

Stress is an old wound; it gets to everybody and doesn't heal right. When the damage happens, it already HAS happened and there is no perfect way to reset it. The guy will inevitably walk with a limp but will at the very best & worst, know he is loved for his work by his bosses but hated by his friends for being an ass-hat.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Well, I’m a registered nurse at 37 years and I was recently in the hospital and they did several things against my specific wishes being a medical person does not give you the license to do any damn thing you want. It’s a man wants help he ask for it otherwise leave him alone.

[@zedwms]

Spot on. I hope this helped some real people.

[@Secondhandlegs]

Yeah I'm not sure the Docs reasoning would hold up here. You're gonna need more than a hunch to hold someone against their wishes. There's no way they would put him in a room with his coat, tie and shoe laces. Also, what is on his shirt?!

[@louiscyphre2267]

It's a tv show. There should be a suspension of disbelief. Get a brain.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Perhaps its just a hospital that caters to very proper patients. And his shirt? Thats clearly a J. Press shirt, famous for their buttonable breast pockets. Popular, at one time, with Ivy league types. Think, 'Man in the Grey Flannel Suit'.

[@toothtown1914]

If you watch the full episode it shows that they allow him to keep all of that because Dr Charles has him being Observed 24/7 and knows that the patient won’t be there long.

[@toothtown1914]

Earlier in the episode he spilled coffee on his shirt and couldn’t change it

[@SleepyTea420]

the acting is phenomenal, holy crap

[@jarednil69]

Excellent story❤

[@Luke_o_lophus]

I've lived through bad abuse till my early 20s. It's been tough, I've been in and out of therapy once i could afford it. But i was never suicidal... until 25. When my life was completely on track. Safe, flourishing, great friends. And somehow i was still depressed. "I have no excuse to be sad" hits extra hard. It somehow becomes worse when it gets better.

[@willowsnowdrop517]

Gosh this clip really hit home

[@samanthapatrick4345]

I've been dealing with depression for a while now, after my parents and grandparents passed away I became emotionally numb so now when my depression hits it's very intense I have good days the bad days are the utmost worst sometimes I feel like I could cry for days or weeks

[@PuffKitty]

I sincerely hope you have more good days than bad, Samantha; it must be exhausting to have your emotions go up and down all the time 😕

[@samanthapatrick4345]

@@PuffKitty It can be exhausting but I do try to keep myself busy

[@katangel115]

"I dont have any reason to be sad" And even with a reason it never feels like enough...

[@amberlamse3691]

His voice when he was saying all the time was great

[@vault7137]

Boy, I can certainly relate, having suffered depression most of my adult life. It doesn't help having a fiancé who says that there is no such thing as depression, that I'm making a conscious choice to feel sad. It makes you realize how alone you are, even in a room full of people. I just try to talk myself out of it and analyze what I'm feeling. It helps sometimes.