Are We *Killing* Nostalgia with Greed?

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Is nostalgia for toys, games, and old properties being ruined by greed and other factors?
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[@ripster8766]

They need to make “jingle all the way, again” where Arnold as a 70 year old man braves the local Walmart’s to try and purchase Pokémon cards for his now 35 year old son. I’d watch it. That’s the nostalgia snake really eating it’s own tail there.

[@crithon]

"Jingle all the way 2 : Boomers V Millennials!" Sub plot of Jake Lloyd in prison..... too bad Phil Hartman is dead, he actually knew what type of film he was in.

[@TBustah]

**Walmarts**

[@chrish7983]

Another major contributor to the problem that is often overlooked are retailers. Specialty shops have dwindled and now all of these collectibles are primarily sold by big box stores. These big box stores AGGRESSIVELY manage inventory and often under order product, causing smaller supply and raising demand. There are no more KB Toys, Toys R Us, Electronic Boutiques, etc.

[@memyopinionsche6610]

I worked at McDonald's during the beanie baby craze. When the first set of beanie babies was put in Happy meals. People were buying 30 to 40 happy meals at a time throwing away the food and keeping the beanie babies. I have no faith in humanity after that.

[@LarryLopez91]

That pretty much sums up America right there lol

[@Blood-PawWerewolf]

Sounds like what happened with the Pokémon cards that were at McDondalds. Buying 15-30 happy meals, throwing away everything but the Pokémon cards and opening them up on KZbin….

[@memyopinionsche6610]

Yes. Same shit different year.

[@JC-qu5lv]

As a kid my mom tirelessly would take me to hobby stores on the weekend so I could try to get Pokemon Cards with my allowance. Only to be told they didn't get any in or were already gone from asshats buying all the boxes they had of them. These are the people that are now selling, fighting over, etc. those newer and OG boxes and it really kinda pisses me off. Also, I lost all my love for my Pokemon cards when my OG Blastoise got stolen by a kid. I loved that card so much as an 12 year old, I sold the rest of them in a yard sale after that.

[@gianlorenzoblanco1858]

Funny story about the Pokemon Starter Pack... i used to play Magic the gathering in the 90s, and i read that pokemon would be THE GREATEST GAME OF CARDS EVER, so i talk to someone who was going to USA to bring me some. The game was never really big in my country, and i just got the starter with two mini decks, play with it a couple of times with a friend, and thats it. I have it to this day... just like you were saying.

[@DrBizz]

The greed and exploitation in all hobbies has gotten progressively worse, for sure. It's mostly the fault of scalpers and resellers cornering the markets, buying up stock, even with used items like loose NES carts etc. It's just typical greed ruining a good thing. Buyers are less responsible I think because you can only blame people so much for paying what it takes to get what they love collecting, but the people who scalp, flip, horde, price gouge etc. are the real enemies. I'm setting up my everdrives with original hardware and storing my collection. I still do find deals at times, but it's harder than ever. The epidemic of scalping and flipping new merchandise is just despicable. These people need to be put out of business and taught a lesson.

[@TooBokoo]

Scalpers and the boom of online selling making it super-easy to list and sell items have created the perfect storm for this nonsense.

[@kabr0ne]

It's because theres a bunch of 30 somethings nowadays with no kids or relationships so the period of having huge amounts of expendable cash has been extended from your early 20's to pretty much indefinitely.

[@bluetarantulaproductions6179]

I think what stores like Target should do is order more than enough product for their stores (give or take depending on how much the manufacturer prints the product) and put out some new merch on the shelves (in small quantity) then when nobody is looking put a little bit more on the shelf here and there.

[@crithon]

the "why are you complaining about the lack of jobs? Uber is hiring, are you ungrateful for the job." excuse

[@wdcain1]

Definitely. Six months ago I bought a complete copy of Animal Crossing on GC for $20 to add to my collection. Last week the store I bought it from was now selling it for $60, tripling in price. I asked the owner and he said it was in response to the marketplace.

[@ProdByASAC]

Same happened with me I bought pokemon platinum for 20 euros (it was loose) from a store and that same store now sells it for 80 euros

[@ivanvargas2425]

Can’t forget about the Christmas of 96 with the hot craze and lunatics going all out for Turbo Man.

[@jackdavis7438]

Lmao well done

[@shorterrecording]

Pat forgot to hit the Limited Button @1:55.

[@FermentedGrumpyGrapeSqueezit]

You can't even buy shoes anymore without going through a middleman. Its waaaay worse than its ever been. There was a few things that really got hyped up back in the day but every damn thing is a potential buy and flip. Ppl were flipping hair clippers during the pandemic smh

[@BuChan89]

It's pretty sad, adults will rip on kids now saying "you guys don't play with toys anymore, you're just always on your phones. No imaginations" When you have neckbeard scalpers buying up everything, it's kind of hard for younger folks to get the cool toys. Heck in the Godzilla hobby, I see dudes filling their shopping carts with the crappy Playmates figures from Walmart and trying to sell them for easily 5x the msrp. These aren't collector grade figures, but cheap plastic toys meant for kids to bash together.

[@iggibeller4353]

It’s been 1980 for like 41 years now. What’s funny is that people like the past more now than when they initially lived through it. It’s like people who brag about their ex, because it’s easy for them to focus on the good when the relationship is long gone, and to bask in the envious attention that other people seem to give them based purely on stories, legends, and the wildest conjurings of their imagination.

[@shane_MK]

It used to be more difficult for a seller to find the right buyer. With the internet, the buyers seek out the sellers. That leads more people to want to be sellers. That's the problem.

[@Bruuuuuh620]

killing nostalgia with the term “Collector”. it’s not nostalgia for kids anymore. it’s adults having 2-3 “Nostalgia” points in their life. Seems like it’s not for kids anymore. I “collect” for my son because i fear sometimes taking him to the stores because of the dudes hanging out in little girl clothing section staring at the card section.

[@mattorama]

Millennials didn't kill nostalgia, there's just nothing new under the sun any more. That's why everything is a reboot or a remake, that's why people are still obsessed with pokemon games from 20 years ago. What's the biggest buzz in entertainment right now? The show "Friends" coming back. Millennials haven't ruined nostalgia, there's just literally nothing left BUT nostalgia these days.

[@Blood-PawWerewolf]

Exactly. Nostalgia was completely untouched until every industry started touching everything with their greedy fingers that “retro” went mainstream. And that was the only thing that was pretty much left. And we all know what happens when something goes mainstream….

[@StainedGlassDemon]

I work at a store that had to recently deal with the Pokemon card craze, and someone got to all the cards with a cart and shoved everything into it. He took the cart to the clothing aisle and decided he was the one allowed to choose who got what cards, before even buying them. He also shoved someone to the floor and wouldn't let that person have any.

[@InfiniCalendar]

I recently sold the Pokemon Emerald packaging (no cartridge, mind you) for about $220.

[@Peters_Pasqually]

People are taking a loan to invest in doge coin. The roaring twenties are definitely back. Guess what's coming next...

[@DaimoHope]

Does the word rhym with repossession

[@TheY2AProblem]

Sweet. That means stock prices at a discount.

[@polystrate1]

Great depression

[@MeAuntieNora]

"Bro, crypto is crash proof though, safest investment you could possibly make."

[@pbailed8007]

How are people going to remember that when we’re trying to erase history right now. There’s a bunch of people they don’t even think that World War II even happened and the other half think that America was the assholes in that situation.

[@michael_stout79]

Damn these collectionist

[@gamerguy425]

No, we're *exploiting* nostalgia for money. Honestly the dumbest thing about the pokemon cards is 99.999% of them are probably worthless so you might as well just be buying lottery tickets. That way you not only *don't* destroy someone's hobby, but you help fund schools/communities

[@ucFJhnukZjfLtc3dPfZrh4qThSg3o]

There's too many rich people with nothing else to do, blowing up certain markets with huge monetary inputs. And too many people that wanna make money out of nothing by speculating. Nostalgia will never go away, it's a memory and to me doesn't really has much to do with the actual objects. I'd blame the big companies that create artificial scarcity like Nintendo, or someone like Disney that pushes and drains property through hell and back that the original is so diluted you lose nostalgia for it.

[@ionmyke]

It's definitely worse than ever, but yeah, my dad had to get our Genesis from a scalper for Christmas '89.

[@creekandseminole]

Yeah same thing except it was Donkey Kong Country 2 for Christmas lol

[@atrocity3010]

I had to do that with the Wii back when that was sold out everywhere for a long time. Sells for pretty cheap now but back then I had to drop 400 to get one.

[@nightisright1873]

It’s the difference between collecting for the pure love of an item or brand and the this generation doing it just being for profit

[@blackjuju5154]

I have been collecting records since I was in single digits back in the 90’s. I would spend my pocket money and buy records as they were cheap. Since covid, people my parents age are now just getting back into it, and the prices are through the roof. All for nostalgia and to fill a hole that lockdown has created. It sucks.

[@shorterrecording]

That’s why I bought records in the late 90s/early 00s. Super cheap. I could get dozens for a couple bucks, at times. Helped me get into old 70s bands that none of my friends were listening to like Cheap Trick, Blue Oyster Cult, even Neil Young. Tons of random cheapo stuff. I got most of it for a buck or two or less. Probably spent about $500 (at most!) on my modest collection. Now it would cost someone $5,000-$10,000.

[@pengwin_]

I collect records now, it's not nearly as bad as the retro game market. I stopped even bothering back in 2014, got priced out.

[@Clay3613]

I hate these scalpers, I just want the best Marvel Legends Spider-Man but nope...gotta pay $50 now cause of nostalgia and greed.

[@BainesMkII]

Since Pat kept mentioning Beanie Babies, it is worth remembering that the Beanie Baby market was (or at least became) scam-driven at its very heart. I remember reading that the person behind the popular pricing guide was simply fabricating the price listings. Meanwhile, the creator of Beanie Babies effectively fabricated demand with random "retirements", and allegedly went as far as to deliberately lie about production runs and shipments in order to maximize profits.

[@chadsmith3363]

I say this all the time: go walk around the nearest antique store and count the Longaberger baskets filled with Beanie Babies.

[@donndragon7663]

I think one point you guys missed about the pokemon card craze is "content creators". Booster pack/box opening on streams of all sizes including those with single digit viewers are huge. I see so many sub/bit/channel point rewards to make a streamer open a pack on stream. It was always a niche thing but once certain millions of follower KZbinrs started doing videos on unboxing/packing I've noticed a larger and larger amount of casual streamers get into the craze.

[@Lynxan]

The biggest problem is that in the end something is worth what some one is willing to pay.

[@BillWilson83]

Whoa man, go watch some Flintstones any episodes from the 60s. Not many cartoons are better and I lived on 80s and 90s cartoons and still love them. Now I admit most others from the 60s, and 70s are terrible. And lets not forget to mention how great the Looney Toons, MGM Tom and Jerry and Tex Avery cartoons from the 40s,50s,60s and 70s are. Those are all great.

[@deadpool3982]

Love Tex Avery and Looney Tunes cartoons, old Goofy ones are great too...often have them on when painting minis.

[@xxnoxx-xp5bl]

The amount of games, consoles and 40K that I've sold on eBay that has been bought by stores looking to sell on rather than collectors, I'd say it's already dead.

[@hellboundTX333]

Same with vinyl records. I sold about 10k worth in the last year and most were bought by resellers or stores so they can gouge other buyers.

[@xxnoxx-xp5bl]

@@hellboundTX333 Yeah, it's a real shame. Online used to be a great way to buy and sell to other collectors, but it just doesn't work that way now.

[@kabukimanindahouse]

while i still care about retro gaming, i've been really driven away by the physical aspect. sorry, i'm not as rich. i can't afford 60 bucks for some old snes cart. hate me for it, but the bad E is just the better option now

[@CkYAll1anc3]

Same here, I have made the switch to flash carts with OG hardware. I will only buy the real cart if its something I really want

[@deadpool3982]

@@CkYAll1anc3 I think a lot of people think they’re too expensive but when you think of the money it saves it’s well worth it. Especially being able to play fan translated games and ROM hacks too.

[@LarryLopez91]

Fuck the haters. Emulation ftw.

[@pengwin_]

Lol! 60? I wish. I have a saved search for Bucky O'Hare on ebay, just waiting for it to appear for less than $100. That stopped 4 years ago. The only affordable NES games are absolute garbage no one wants like city connection and Vegas dream, and they still want $20 for that shit.

[@thejackal007]

I went with a coworker to the local Wal-Mart to help him open fresh cases of Matchbox cars years ago. Now THAT is its own community.

[@larryinc64]

One of the worst things about the current market too is it's EVERYTHING. Nintendo could slap their logo on a McDonalds napkin and people would try to flip it on eBay for $70.

[@TiVo67]

Classified section of the local newspaper was where scalpers would sell their items pre-eBay

[@RetroGamingDev]

As you said, it has always been going on. I think we are just in a period where the generations are starting to pile up a bit (people who were kids in the late 70s and 80s, as well as 90s and 00s kids) and everyone is starting get to that phase in their life were they can afford all this old stuff that they loved as kids. Wrap into that the ease of accessing product and then flipping it online for scalpers... and it is just this perfect nightmare.

[@mikekz4489]

Nostalgia is also stifling creativity, so nothing new for kids is being created.

[@creekandseminole]

My collecting habits have been streamlined into 2 camps. Collecting vinyl records and collecting Nintendo Switch games. Both are very fun and can be very pricey. For the Switch its still relatively easy to find some of the more expensive and rare games. It'll be all the crazy collector edition box sets that stay in high price, but I also expect those to fall at some point. As for vinyl records, once they have reissued everything good enough from the 90's and 2000's it might die back down to lower prices, but collecting records will always be around forever.

[@michaelbutler6611]

James Stephanie Sterling. They came out as non binary. I like your guys videos but please use the respected name of someone you quoted/referenced. In case you didn't know just want to inform.

[@garyw595]

Same shit happened back in 80’s and 90’s. Witnessed it always at card shows or conventions. only difference now is we all HEAR AND SEE it happening because of technology. And also now it’s “Cool” in the social media era to BRAG about everything you do. Ignore it!

[@simontaneous]

I found myself in a Spencer's Gifts for the first time in almost 2 decades a couple months ago, and I can verify that they still have(especially for 2021) an absurd amount of lava lamps, and black light posters for that matter. I was taken aback that 1/6 of the store was made up of lava lamps, and compared to what I remembered from my childhood, it was the biggest Spencer's I have ever been in.

[@gp63]

This in an interesting topic. As Jim Sterling said, if you came along in the 70s/80s/90s you grew up being advertised to every Saturday morning when watching cartoons. Every commercial break someone was telling me to beg my parents for the latest plastic toy.

[@tbirum]

A fool and their money are soon parted. Let them spend their money, for those who make money, good for them, for those who lose money, they have no one to blame but themselves. NOW for kids who are not able to get the toys/cards they had their little hearts set on, well They will live. Parents who spend huge sums of money in order to make their kids happy are not really doing a good thing for their kids. The message they are sending their kids is "Whatever it is you want you will get, because you deserve to be happy, and if you are not happy then someone else is to blame". Kids who grow up in poor families, who wear hand me down clothes, whose parents do their clothes shopping at Goodwill or garage sales may be jealous of rich kids but more often than not they grow up to appreciate that it is that they have and earn their way through life instead of expecting the things they want to just be handed to them.

[@markl1109]

When I went right before they shut it down they would only sell 1 pack per person

[@madnessarcade7447]

Nostalgia can never be killed if it’s strong enough

[@creekandseminole]

Star Wars killed itself

[@yukizboy3046]

I hate toy scalpers... IMO it takes a certain "type" of person to become a toy scalper... I mean you don't ever see male models scalping toys.

[@thecunninlynguist]

We've been killing nostalgia with greed since the 90s

[@jonathancardello9125]

As someone who owns a LGS, the one thing people don't realize is fueling the Pokemon craze is limited or impacted production. Stores usually are able to get stock without too many major issues, if you have a particularly hot set you might get hit with allocation limits, but COVID wrecked all that. Stores aren't able to get the same quantities they used to because of production issues, that combined with Streamers/Influencers/People trying to flip this stuff for cash has Hyper-Charged the market. If the production numbers increase and more product gets to shelves, a lot of this stuff is going to tank in value since they'll be so much out there.

[@Rouz102]

I very recently got back into collecting pokemon cards (I'm 27) and it was such a pain finding any. I think at the end of the day I was only able to score a couple of packs off amazon, get the battle academy set so my gf and I can play, and get packs from dollar general. It's been such a pain cause every set is always sold out and I'm already just as quickly over the hobby. Can't imagine how kids are feeling now when they can't go to any major retailer at all and get a pack.

[@preslove]

A couple months ago, I saw something about how basketball cards are really cool and popular, and I'm a 90s kid who collected cards and who likes the nba. Some internet searches and a trip to target to find no nba cards in stock and a dude checking prices on the nhl and yu gi oh cards they did have, I determined that I'll just wait until the bubble pops to buy a couple packs

[@JC-qu5lv]

In my head this is what happened Pre-Podcast Pat: IAN, make sure you where the shirt Ian: What shirt? Pat: you know the one that helps sponsor the podcast... the into the AM shirt.... Ian: 'silently waiting for Pat to finish' Pat: You got some of those you like right? Ian: Yea, I do, ok, well good thing I was already wearing it or I probably wouldn't have changed Pat: Really? you wouldn't have changed your shirt to help out our sponsor corner? Come on Ian, they give us money to help the podcast Ian: Well what do you want me to say Patrick, I like the shirts I pick out to wear for myself, that generally means that's what I want to wear that day Pat: ......

[@greenmetalbox1719]

Ironically, the image of the new Masters of the Universe toys used is not limited edition or priced for collectors, it's priced as a toy for children, and is marketed that way. My 7 year old plays with his handful of new MOTU figures almost every day. :)

[@sleekmotorwurkz]

To be fair - I dont know what my parents paid for them back in the 80s, but I just bought the new he man and skeletor for 16 bucks each at target. I wouldnt say that is particularly priced for kids. I had like 30 of them when I was a kid (not to mention lots of other action figures) and I don't think my parents had the means to buy that many toys at that kind of price point.

[@juannunez5767]

You can fleece a lot of people by combining questionable "investments" with childhood nostalgia.

[@mikekz4489]

The worst thing to happen to ‘80s and ‘90s nostalgia is awareness of it by the manufacturers, Hasbro for example. Their G.I. Joe Classified line is all about the collector. They act like they want to appeal to kids too, but not really. How can a kid, when they go go shopping with the parent even see a new G.I. Joe in the toy aisles when there are never any to begin with. And forget it if you are an adult who would like to get some them, but don’t have the time to hunt. But, Hasbro does care, they get their money.

[@MSUHitman]

Not exactly the same, but seeing all the history videos about the chip shortages of the late 80's and how Mario/Zelda 2 were hard to find, but my family was able to get those games with no issue from Coast to Coast Hardware in small, rural Vienna, IL (southern IL at that time had no Target, Toys R Us, or any of the big 4 Babbage's/Software Etc./Funcoland/Electronics Boutique.) It makes me wonder if people were trying to scalp the games at yard sales/flea markets since there was no internet.

[@tsuchi2695]

I'll collect Pokémon cards genuinely to collect, but all this madness has made me look at all my base set cards, and my other older ones as cardboard money. They have value, and as far as I'm concerned, if people out there are willing to pay, then I will sell. Just looking at them doesn't keep the lights on. Scalping is a different beast however.

[@rogersherman5391]

The local classifieds had tickle me Elmo’s in it and as I recall was the primary way to purchase stuff like that than.

[@mikewhoelse]

I have one boglin. I was bought it as a present because I used to call my daughter Boglin.

[@luke9511]

i used to collect pokemon cards back when it came out but all of my of cards were stolen by a family member years ago and this year I decided to play the card game again and collect cards and the scalpers are making it real hard to collect, some of the boxes of cards that I have bought for $39.99 have been going for $100-$300 or more and its insane

[@OaksCU1]

As someone born in 1996, it feels like people being nostalgic for the 80s and 90s have been hogging all the "nostalgia-space" for the past 10+ years 😅 It feels like the nostalgia for the 00s should've really kicked in to gear by now. All we've gotten are some shitty Spy Kids and Kim Possible live action movies, I'm hoping for Tobye Maguire in the next MCU Spider Man movie. I collected Smell Freaks when I was a kid, also waiting for those to make some sort of comeback.

[@larryinc64]

Some of it is slowly creeping in. It was kinda funny seeing Robot Chicken branch out from the 80s pop culture stuff from early episodes, to start to do parodies of stuff I grew up with from the later 90s and early 2000s. Spongebob, CatDog, Hey Arnold, The Wild Thornberrys, Dexter's Lab, The Powerpuff Girls, Ed Edd n Eddy, Homestar Runner, and such.

[@quibquatch3975]

I mean, there isn't as much of anything to be nostalgic about from about 2005 and onwards. The PS2/Gamecube/Wii/OGXbox/Dreamcast era was the last hurrah of anything substantially good. I hate to be a grumpy grandpa (just turned 40), but there really is absolutely nothing kids today are going to be nostalgic over because the timeless wonder and discovery we had in the 80's and 90's doesn't exist for kids today. Without the internet, it is so much more humanistic and gives you those nostalgic feelings for finding stuff on your own back then. To anyone that says, "your parents said the same thing about you", there is barely any nostalgia nowadays for the 50's, 60's and 70's. It's not even the same. Those decades don't have the same resurgence and long lasting appeal as the 80's and 90's. What are kids today going to fondly remember over for the warm fuzzies? Tiktok? Call of Duty? It's really quite sad when you think about it compared to the magic of the 80's and 90's.

[@larryinc64]

@@quibquatch3975 @Quib Quatch idk that sounds a lot like you are just not paying attention to what kids are doing nowadays (which is fair, you are 40 and not 14). I am almost 26 so I'm somewhat past it too but I still see some of it. KZbin and it's content, Internet content in general (including TikTok). 1999 to 2009 was an AMAZING time for children's programing on Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney. CoD is kinda past it's prime now but I played a ton of it in middle school on my 360 with friends. Minecraft, Smash Bros, Fortnite, Undetale, Halo 3.You had dumb gymics like Silly Bands, Fidget Spinners, and other fads like every era has. With the internet, I had much more freedom to find things on my own then people before ever had. I got into retro gaming purely from the internet, found new shows, music, and such, met new people. All that jazz. The 80s and 90s has some great media , but as someone born in 1995 a lot of that stuff I have a similar apathy towards (Like, to me most 80s cartoons are unwatchable and dull). A lot of stuff that gives people warm fuzzies are disposable junk, but if you had it at the right time it means something to you.

[@quibquatch3975]

@@larryinc64 Minecraft I can maybe kinda see as "nostalgic" for when kids get older, Smash Bros is from the Gamecube generation, Fortnite is just simply god awful and hollow and anyone who has "warm fuzzies" from it is probably a rather shallow human being, Halo 1 and 2 is from the OGXbox generation so calling Halo 3 anything nostalgic kinda relies on the first two. If you admit that your generation is "disposable junk", I think that says everything anyone needs to know. I mean, the bulk of what this generation is mostly called "content", as if it's something to be eaten up and shit out and forgotten. All of these 10 second Tiktok/KZbin/etc. videos are nothing tangibly physical and nothing substantial. Finding anything you want anytime you want completely ruins anything personal or any mystery behind what you Google searched. I will gladly take all the forgotten gimmicks we had over the vapid nothingness of Tiktok dances and such of today. At least those were tangible objects, not "aesthetical vibez" or whatever surface level poseur-ish nonsense. Seriously this generation is pretty bad now when I really think about it. All I see is kids wearing the same shit from people in the 80's because they have nothing to call their own right now. They want the look and the feel, but not actually walk the walk. I can't tell you how many Thrasher shirts I see with bleached torn jeans, and they've never even set foot on a skateboard. Hopefully something better comes along in the next 10-15 years?

[@larryinc64]

@@quibquatch3975 With some of your logic, Most superheros like Batman, Superman, Spiderman, ect date way father back then the 80s and 90s so you can throw out things like Batman the animated series. VHS where first made in 70s so no one from the 80s and 90s could be nostalgic for it. The SNES was just the NES 2 so no one from the 90s can be nostalgic for it. Disney Land is from 1955. Goof Troop, Darkwing Duck, Chip n Dale, Tailspin and Duck Tales are all based on older characters. G.I. Joe goes back to 1964. Tiny Toon Adventures was based on the Looney Tunes. The Smurfs were created in 1958. Nickelodeon first went live in 1979. Power Rangers was based on Super Sentai and that was created in 1975. A lot of kids shows from the 80s was just commercials for toys. AVGN has an entire series how so many 80s and 90s games were cheep cash ins. The 70s had a ton of 50s nolstalgia reboots and throwbacks like Greese, and the 80s and 90s had reboots like The Brady Bunch Movie and Leave It to Beaver movies. it's all circular. . Donkey Kong was almost a Popeye game. You really need to adjust your rose colored glasses lol.

[@pbailed8007]

Wizards of the coast could totally print out whatever they wanted, they did it with Yu-Gi-Oh cards. they don’t do it with Pokémon or magic cards because $$$$.

[@aaronossont39]

Uncle Joe from Bayonne definitely knows how to get things.

[@Arufonsa1]

Some guys don’t sell or keep. Y’all see the video of that guy buying out all the cards, laughing he was depriving kids and then setting the merch on fire?

[@TheSoliloquist]

the Gen Xers were holding onto the ladder as it got pulled up, smoking a cigarette, and talking about how lame ladders are.

[@nicholasbutler4092]

I came 6x times the amount a booster box of basketball cards over maybe doubling my money on Pokémon. It’s nuts.

[@Aragorn7884]

Because: capitalism... "collectors" with the largest air quotes imaginable

[@CookieDude10001]

Just a small heads up, I’m pretty sure Jim uses they/them pronouns now. Love the podcast!

[@MSUHitman]

Pat, Does your friend you mentioned at the end have any VS. System TCG cards? Would be looking primarily at cards released from 06-08 (original run of the game was 04-08.) Thanks.

[@TsukentoX]

The problem with the Pokémon cards was all because Logan Paul spent $2 million on unopened boxes of 1999 sets, made his fanbase aware that those cards can bring in cash, and then when that supply started to become difficult to get a hold of if they didn't have them stored away, they started scalping newer product after becoming aware that the card game was on-going.

[@willsnyder4399]

Hey Pat! Just as an FYI Jim uses They/Them pronouns Love the show Thanks!

[@EmeraldLavigne]

Came to the comments to say just that. Thanks!

[@petercorsi7454]

Great video guys. Always got something interesting happening here

[@helloSanders]

The comparison of the older cartoons and toys being inferior is fascinating. To me the change maybe came from psychological breakthroughs. We didn't have a world War to fight anymore, and advertising became more competent and effective as we identified more subtly how our brains react to ads. So when they found how good cartoons promote sales, the toy quality increased as the industry got more competitive. And now we sadly have folks trying to overcome how brainwashy tv became. Nostalgia is lots of fun, but our culture has been letting it be abused like corn syrup in /everything/ decades ago. Too much of a sweet thing.

[@etherealnoire]

Its crazy. I randomly saw 2 decks of Pokemon cards the other day and i grabbed one. I regret not grabbing the second but wasnt sure if i had it or not

[@beny.391]

80s cartoons were just as silly as the stuff from previous decades. To each their own though. Also anybody trying to reach the American dream by flipping cards from a children's game deserves to lose all their money.

[@lazaredz6685]

Cabbage Patch kids from the 80s and Comics from the 90s say "Hi".

[@deadpool3982]

Ah the ‘good’ old days...kinda miss the ridiculous amount of foiled covers they used to have...

[@soulfinger8171]

I love 80s cartoons….but they were just a long commercials to get you to buy toys

[@ImmortalInflames]

With each decade, companies keep finding ways to sell us shit we don't need with money we don't have! First their was Lay-buy... Once you pay it off in full, you can pick it up! Now there is Play-buy, pick it up now and worry about the money later.. and before tge first payment comes it's off to buy something else with the money you have..

[@HEXONE4LIFE]

Collectors are going crazy with these retro toys

[@SerpentNight]

I'm not much of a physical merch guy; I'm more in to paraphernalia that's read, watched and played rather than posed and dusted. But that can be a harrowing quarter too when it comes to your income. In any case, collectors are rarely satisfied with their collectors for long.

[@skins4thewin]

I agree, this shit has gotten completely out of control. The fact that ppl are willing to pay these looney prices is just nuts to me. Hell, I just want to buy a PS5 for myself at retail price and can't do so due to scalpers. It's ridiculous.

[@Asahamana]

I propably shouldn't say this buuuuuuut: I checked out from eBay that the best 90's toy, cartoon franchise Biker Mice From Mars is still pretty affordable for collectionist (toys go under 100 € or 50€) for instance Vinnie's helmet goes for about 12€ and that is only the helmet. So if you're into this gold rush then Biker Mice From Mars is ripe for claiming. I know that no-one cares about the Biker Mice From Mars but if you grew up in say Finland in the 90's that was you're Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or Hero Turtles. Mainly because the cartoon series wasn't on tv till the new one came in 00's. Toy Goldminers Biker Mice From Mars, still affordable, still out there, go and ruin that one too.

[@topchief1]

I'm a video game collector. If the speculators want to delve into other territories, I have no concerns with that. Good riddance. I used to collect cards until I would get depressed when I'd spend $20+ on a pack of cards and get nothing good from it. I went back a few months ago to buy a few packs of recent cards for old time sake, and was told that single packs weren't sold anymore, it's all complete boxes or cases. Glad I moved on.

[@petercorr784]

Just wanted to let you know that Jim Stephanie Stirling probs prefers to be called 'they' instead of him or he. Great video though. 😊

[@egxtra]

James Stephanie Sterling, but yeah.

[@petercorr784]

Jim is short for James 😁

[@poepoe99999]

People Don't wanna work.. (Opinion) I'm glad I grow up with a working class Family 💛

[@k-flow170]

Hey Pat, just curious. Do you make any difference of monetization with the YT viewer being premium vs. free?

[@Raw-guitar]

Great show fellas🇺🇸

[@metronome8471]

Humanity's collective toybox isn't big enough.

[@Somaiscariot]

Sterling goes by they/them pronouns now, just FYI 💕

[@lupolinar]

You can do this with anything, for example new Lego sets which are sold out for the first few week, but adults just want it now snd pay way more then it is worth.

[@Chaoitcme]

The question is will younger generations care about these current hot items in the future and will these items hold their value when Millennials age out of collecting and try selling off their collections.

[@ghfudrs93uuu]

Don Draper would claim guys like him invented nostalgia

[@thecthuloser876]

From what I heard the Pokémon Company was actually ramping up production of the cards. It didn't matter.

[@Blood-PawWerewolf]

Sony said the same thing like 3-4 times with the PS5’s production. We haven’t seen any major changes at all

[@Asahamana]

I can definetly see a difference in collecting: I own a Perfect Storm VHS tape that is still in it's original shrink wrap and it's never going off just in case I can sell it in the future. I also own two copies of the Finnish release of Plastic Little VHS tapes, because they're on the original shrink wrap and again I hope that I can sell it in the future, the second I unwrapped just to watch it. BUT I'm also very self aware about the fact that they will never get higher in the value: Perfect Storm just an okay George Clooney movie from the 2000 and Plastic Little is just forgettable trash. Still a guy can dream right? I almost became the proud owner of all Finland's Plastic Little VHS tapes I declined since I really needed just the two, I try my best to not think that they got thrown into the bin.

[@TheCreepypro]

I didn't even think it was that bad but with all the reports of people going nuts over things that are made for children I have been forced to reassess that mind set

[@flickeringlight]

nostalgia is a feeling, not an object. can nostalgia be attached to objects? of course. you can't kill the nostalgia, but you can out price people who would buy nostalgic objects at a more reasonable price. people with more buying power, combined with the speculative collector's market, and personal nostalgic attachment (pna) will drive up the price. (buying power)pna x (speculation) = (nostalgic collector's items going up in price) ≠ (greed kills nostalgia). conclusion: greed = prices going up for objects. nostalgia unaffected

[@k-flow170]

Listen to Tim Dillon talk about his Long Island mom hoarding Beanie Babies. She wasn't the only one.

[@Mr._Sandman]

Nostalgia dies everyday; by the hands that tend to the gardens of interest, droughts and blooms... I don't know if you're feeding it, but let it die.