PATTI LUPONE: Everything's As If We Never Said Goodbye, Incredible!

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Andrew MacBean

Andrew MacBean

Күн бұрын

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@mtnyc89
@mtnyc89 5 жыл бұрын
"Each Norma brought something different to the role" Exactly. Patti's is vulnerable and wanting, Glenn's is confident and needy.
@KillDevon
@KillDevon 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn's version is so pushed. Patti was born to play Norma.
@michaelstrelosmith
@michaelstrelosmith 4 жыл бұрын
@@KillDevon EXACTLY! What people do not seem to understand...Norma Desmond was a character that is only supposed to be around 50 years of age. The near death characterization of Glenn Close.
@harrypatrick9420
@harrypatrick9420 4 жыл бұрын
Oh who cares? Obsessing over this like it's high art or something.
@michaelstrelosmith
@michaelstrelosmith 4 жыл бұрын
It’s art that broadens our collective culture. The conversation here is no different then people debating the merits of sports teams. The Super Bowl for example...People seem to get excited about it as if it actually matters… When it really doesn’t
@lizafan1
@lizafan1 4 жыл бұрын
⭐️PETULA CLARK was a comic Norma ⭐️ BETTY BUCKLEY was crazy ⭐️ STEFANIE POWERS was shy ⭐️FLoRENCE LACEY was elegant ⭐️ ALICE RIPLEY was very tender ⭐️ELAINE PAIGE was the Best Norma I saw one other Norma in Glasgow her name was Faith ❓she was ok scaled down set
@jimmcfall3678
@jimmcfall3678 2 жыл бұрын
There's a fragile quality in this performance that we don't often get to see from Patti and it's an absolute masterpiece.
@eileencoleman6857
@eileencoleman6857 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you Jim.
@Usercantwelve
@Usercantwelve 11 ай бұрын
Bc she was getting Fired !! BY ALW..When it happened she wre credit her dressing room.. She's gotten bitchy with age.. GREAT IN EVITA ))
@johnwhiting5747
@johnwhiting5747 2 жыл бұрын
Patti is an actress who can hit every note and out sing, Glenn is an actress that can sell a song without singing perfectly. Both are equally connected to Norma in two completely different methodologies.
@ryan010able
@ryan010able 2 жыл бұрын
Patti does a good job vocally, Glen sells it to you, and her voice I think is good enough. Betty Buckleys version gives me goosebumps however.
@jamitch3
@jamitch3 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan010able I got to see Betty Bucky in Sunset Boulevard in London back I the early 90’s. It was fabulous.
@JP-zx7pn
@JP-zx7pn Жыл бұрын
I wish I could have seen Patti perform the role, I had no desire to see Glenn Close. I was lucky enough to see it with Elaine Paige and the travelling revial production with Petula Clark. Both were great in it,, even though Petula was 70
@chrisjacobs7417
@chrisjacobs7417 Жыл бұрын
​@@JP-zx7pn petula was horrendous. Her American accent was laughable, she lacked any subtlety, however her final speech was noteworthy. Aside from that you would have been better off catching one of her understudies. Susan Emmerson outshined her in every aspect during the tour
@oldbonesNJ
@oldbonesNJ Жыл бұрын
Well put.
@DerryPope
@DerryPope 3 күн бұрын
Oh wow, this is amazing. Patti Lupone is a powerhouse and to she her go from a vulnerable recluse to a driven star is incredible. I love how DeMille appears like a ghost at the end and she leans upon him.
@JamesElmore-h4u
@JamesElmore-h4u Ай бұрын
Patty is so sweet and warm here. I saw Betty Buckley in this role on Broadway. You could really see the inner flapper that she had been in California. Very specific choices, as well. Every star blesses us in their own special way.
@peteralfano4278
@peteralfano4278 4 жыл бұрын
chills when the spot hits her and the music hits the crescendo and Patti...well, and Patti..
@MrTheatreworks
@MrTheatreworks 4 жыл бұрын
This was from the workshop. The show hadn't been "decided" upon yet, nor the director. It was between Hal Prince and Trevor Nunn.. I directed this version, then continued as Trevor's associate.
@alexandredias3851
@alexandredias3851 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Andrew! Amazing job! Patti Lupone was a great choice! Impossible to find the the finale of your version here on KZbin....
@jaws-ofoz3627
@jaws-ofoz3627 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of Glenn Close.
@MrTheatreworks
@MrTheatreworks 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaws-ofoz3627Somewhere, on a hard drive, a rehearsal with her in LA.. not sure where!
@jaws-ofoz3627
@jaws-ofoz3627 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTheatreworks Love to see it
@jaws-ofoz3627
@jaws-ofoz3627 4 жыл бұрын
After seeing the 2nd US Tour and the Revival My joke is "Sunset Blvd is still big its the productions that got small"...
@philipmc8246
@philipmc8246 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot thank you enough for posting this rare footage of Ms. Lupone, She was and is the finest Norma Desmond EVER. The fragility of her craft and power of her voice in this Sydmonton concert. I was fortunate to see her 3 times at the Adelphi, and her presence was utterly spellbinding from the moment she appeared on the stairs the last push down stage in that terrible whispy grey wig. THE VOICE THE ACTRESS THE WOMAN Patti Lupone.
@MrTheatreworks
@MrTheatreworks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philp!
@jonmakay1537
@jonmakay1537 2 жыл бұрын
fragile? i can't see it,... but still...
@nanettecostanza537
@nanettecostanza537 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN! 👏
@GRHCU
@GRHCU 5 жыл бұрын
Such a professional.... Her voice is haunting as she delivers word after word of this classic song...
@hefinrosser8685
@hefinrosser8685 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the remarkable miss lupone in her last performance in sunset!! It was a masterclass in acting an vocals!! I understand that people have their favourites and dislikes. I've seen sunet 5 times with different actresses and I confess none of them have come close to miss lupone. None have been so electrifying, so heartbreaking. Yes there are others who have been good and some not so good. But this is about celebrating the stage sensation that is Patti Lupone xxxx all my love to my fellow sunset lovers xxx
@ryan010able
@ryan010able 3 жыл бұрын
she rushes the hell out of this song, I dont get any emotion from.it whatsoever. You can't deny she has a good vocal range but im underwhelmed. Glenn's version gives so much more
@hefinrosser8685
@hefinrosser8685 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryan010able I agree with you, but this was the first workshop. I always remembering listening to the original cast recording and thinking the same. However! After seeing miss lupone she was incredible! And this was in 1994, we had no social media or any knowledge of what was going on x
@hefinrosser8685
@hefinrosser8685 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I like your opinions, respectful and open to discussion. Give me a shout to discuss theatre further x
@jaygatz4335
@jaygatz4335 Жыл бұрын
@@ryan010able Rushes the hell out of it? When?
@ryan010able
@ryan010able Жыл бұрын
@@jaygatz4335 it sounds rushed. she doesn't take her time at all
@peterrocchio6539
@peterrocchio6539 Жыл бұрын
We saw her do this in London with Princess Di and other celebrities in the audience. Patti Lupone was magnificent-what a beautiful performance in every way.
@iamfrank5171
@iamfrank5171 7 жыл бұрын
There's a real gentleness and vulnerability here that I haven't seen Patti exude before. I would like to have seen her perform this role, like this. Also, love the moment with Cecil. B at the end.
@user-gm3gj2yv9e
@user-gm3gj2yv9e Ай бұрын
🎉❤ WOW. Breathtaking ❤. I loved Glenn Close but I am really sorry I missed this. Right now I would settle for a swim in the Andrew Loyd Webber Memorial Pool! Thank you for posting this, it is magnificent 😊
@bogofusion
@bogofusion Ай бұрын
Knocked my socks off. Listening to all KZbin performances of this music. This is the best of the best
@MrReggieLew
@MrReggieLew 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me, but this is the finest performance I have ever seen her do. The vocal control, the vulnerability, the pathos, it's all there in this one magnificent performance.
@chamayonnaise
@chamayonnaise Ай бұрын
i honestly cannot count how many times i've watched this video but from 0:50 with the music swelling up as the spotlight shines on her.. god i really wish i got to see this production and patti live
@wingsong100
@wingsong100 Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw Lupone perform live I was 9 years old and the show was Evita. I have never been the same since. Lol. I remember at the beginning of the second act when she exists onto the balcony, the audience didn’t dare to breathe. From that evening forward it was hardcore love for the Broadway Musical and my appreciation and admiration for this incomparable artist. I have seen her perform many other times since then. As late as Company in Spring of 2022. She still steals every show. Till now nothing else exists when she is on stage. I wish her another 50 great years. I hope she’s doing it till she’s 100.
@richenuff01
@richenuff01 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing better than hearing a full orchestra with strings and horns inside a theatre that's over a hundred and fifty years old like the ones in Philadelphia.
@johnboys4697
@johnboys4697 2 жыл бұрын
i agree!
@glenndrake6172
@glenndrake6172 4 жыл бұрын
Patti Lupone!! Her real first, middle and last names are:Talented, more Talented and Most Talented. Always terrific.
@PaulHorneLA
@PaulHorneLA 7 ай бұрын
I’m a Patti Superfan, but Betty Buckley chews up this song and spits it out. She’s also a more believable Norma - but I do love everything Patti does.
@carleu
@carleu 6 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Lupone, is a real Diva, Talented, Beautiful and Blessed.
@luhunglin
@luhunglin 2 ай бұрын
Agatha All Along Episode 7 Lilia brought me here 🥲
@Hartdance
@Hartdance 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible, indeed..a fantastic voice with acting that is true ...she's amazing!!
@Ehntu
@Ehntu 4 жыл бұрын
She is showing such a beautiful vulnerability I haven't seen from Patti before. Great great GREAT performance.
@KatienMac
@KatienMac 3 жыл бұрын
I love Patti Lupone she is truly incredible!
@allisonroberts1379
@allisonroberts1379 3 жыл бұрын
If I could sing like her just one day, that would be a taste of Heaven to me! 💞
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant performance of the song.
@johnnymia1563
@johnnymia1563 Жыл бұрын
1 icon I will cherish my life Thank You Very Much Patti for gracing our theater lives and giving us dreams of imitating your singing in many home- mirrors!
@lkat5113
@lkat5113 2 жыл бұрын
A mesmerizing performance!
@marilynmichaels8358
@marilynmichaels8358 3 ай бұрын
splendid.....so gifted
@irenafacelli2882
@irenafacelli2882 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE Patti Lupone in Sunset Boulevard. The cast recording with her is my ultimate favorite theatre album. I Like Glenn Close too....but Andrew Lloyd Weber really dissed Patti after she played Norma Desmond in London. She deserved every penny of that million dollar settlement!!
@johnw.davison1561
@johnw.davison1561 10 ай бұрын
Such a lovely interpretation -- vocally and orchestrally. Thanks so much,
@isitfunthere1
@isitfunthere1 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna touch the Patti v Glenn debate but all I can say is I’m glad they eventually shifted (much of) the score down a few steps. Regardless of who’s singing Norma, I personally think something gets lost in the higher notes- it becomes more about musicality and less about the performance. But that’s just me.
@rickvannoy6379
@rickvannoy6379 5 жыл бұрын
Patti didn't play the end of the musical from the beginning. She let the madness unfold throughout.
@Thekatedelaney
@Thekatedelaney 4 жыл бұрын
Rick VanNoy Interesting. Yes Glenn already looks crazy by this point. Not that I don’t like them both.
@publiusovidius7386
@publiusovidius7386 4 жыл бұрын
Just like Swanson in the original. Eccentric throughout but not crazy until the end. I share your criticism of Close's interpretation.
@edwardsmusicsongsmusiclyri7578
@edwardsmusicsongsmusiclyri7578 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. Of course, sometimes the madness IS there from the start. My voice teacher once said this about a Schubert song cycle: the protagonist commits suicide at the end, but he's not right from the outset.
@popland1977
@popland1977 3 жыл бұрын
But, the madness had already set in by now. Thinking a washed up actress with a terrible script was really being welcomed backed in, that's the madness
@duanegroves7167
@duanegroves7167 4 ай бұрын
It's not as glaring in this magnificent event, but I marvel at how she sings the word Madness at 5:15. Patti, in that single moment, vividly displays how mad Norma truly was.
@tracydarcey
@tracydarcey 3 жыл бұрын
The best! No one can compare to Patti Lupone with this performance, chills is right. If a performance gives you chills it’s the best! Love this!
@fassbrig
@fassbrig 3 ай бұрын
Patti's version gives me goosebumps.
@lauram5905
@lauram5905 Жыл бұрын
This early setting, even though it's a prototype, is magical. Probably the closest we'll ever get to a 1:1 to the original film. The moment the spotlight hit, and all the eyes turned to Patti, I had chills, you could almost feel the magic as if Gloria Swanson herself had stepped straight out of 1950. I'll reserve all my opinions on the other productions and performers, this was just absolutely lovely on its own merits.
@petermaz701
@petermaz701 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and genuine performance!
@larrycarlin809
@larrycarlin809 Жыл бұрын
I ❤️ LOVE Patti Lupone! Saw her years ago on Broadway. FANTASTIC!
@cedriceccentric
@cedriceccentric Жыл бұрын
My very first musical was Sunset Boulevard with Patti Lupone at the Adelphi in (I think 1993). And began my love for musical theatre. Sunset Boulevard is IMHO Andrew Lloyd Webber's best musical.
@populustremulus228
@populustremulus228 13 күн бұрын
Très belle Latine. Pure grâce Méditerranéenne. Sensuelle et forte. Une Italienne.
@CherylGormanAuthor
@CherylGormanAuthor 5 жыл бұрын
Great set of pipes!!!
@paultrevorbale2440
@paultrevorbale2440 Жыл бұрын
My favourite of all songs Lloyd Webber has written.
@larscain3263
@larscain3263 2 жыл бұрын
I saw her last performance in London. She was wonderful
@QuentinRolfe-bd2dq
@QuentinRolfe-bd2dq 5 ай бұрын
Glenn wipes the floor with all of them ! It's an actors role !!
@idraote
@idraote Жыл бұрын
It's nothing short of miraculous how she manages to sound frail and vulnerable with a nearly allmighty voice.
@djtomt
@djtomt 3 ай бұрын
Incredible!
@yelanates
@yelanates 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn Close IS Norma Desmond for me, but Patti is and will always be the OG. I *love* the fragility she brings to this number.
@williamgardiner2010
@williamgardiner2010 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very early 'workshop' version, a long time before the West End production had been rehearsed and staged at the Adelphi.
@wincubs1
@wincubs1 3 жыл бұрын
Agree....Good but Glenn is and will be forever MY #1 Norma Desmond!!
@JP-zx7pn
@JP-zx7pn 2 жыл бұрын
Patti originated the role until Weber screwed her over. Weber's loss, sondheim's gain. I never saw Glenn Close in it but heard she was really good. Elaine Paige was great. I saw the touring revival in 2000 with Petula Clark who was really good also, she was just too old to be playing the role of a fifty year old
@charliepickles8183
@charliepickles8183 4 жыл бұрын
Glenn is amazing, but there’s something about this performance that gives me chills.
@edwardsmusicsongsmusiclyri7578
@edwardsmusicsongsmusiclyri7578 3 жыл бұрын
Um, humanity?
@erossinema8797
@erossinema8797 2 жыл бұрын
Glenn's an actress, not a singer. Same for the late Carol Channing, but somehow it worked for her
@stevel2332
@stevel2332 2 жыл бұрын
Magic. Thank you, bless you for posting this.
@lavoxii
@lavoxii 4 жыл бұрын
As if we never said goodbye Sunset Boulevard I don't know why I'm frightened I know my way around here The cardboard trees, the painted seas, the sound here Yes, a world to rediscover But I'm not in any hurry And I need a moment The whispered conversations In overcrowded hallways The atmosphere is thrilling here as always Feel the early morning madness Feel the magic in the making Why, everything's as if we never said goodbye I've spent so many mornings just trying to resist you I'm trembling now, you can't know how I've missed you Missed the fairytale adventure In this ever-spinning playground We were young together I'm coming out of makeup The light's already burning Not long until the cameras will start turning And the early morning madness And the magic in the making Yes, everything's as if we never said goodbye I don't want to be alone That's all in the past This world's waited long enough I've come home at last! And this time will be bigger And brighter than we knew it So watch me fly, we all know I can do it Could I stop my hands from shaking? Has there ever been a moment With so much to live for? The whispered conversations In overcrowded hallways So much to say, not just today but always We'll have early morning madness We'll have magic in the making Yes, everything's as if, we never said goodbye Yes, everything's as if, we never said goodbye We taught the world new ways to dream
@JamboLinnman
@JamboLinnman 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I was lucky enough to see both Patti Lupone and Elaine Page at the Adelphi in the West End. Both were phenomenal.
@mmjhcb
@mmjhcb 9 ай бұрын
I saw her in London. I remember the fantastic sets.
@nicoladawn
@nicoladawn 3 жыл бұрын
Stunning! My favourite Norma.
@Cc-is3is
@Cc-is3is 7 жыл бұрын
this is so beautiful she is amazing and the original love her so much
@nicolasocampo9953
@nicolasocampo9953 5 жыл бұрын
Patti you are AWESOME!
@josephmarzullo4416
@josephmarzullo4416 7 жыл бұрын
This is incredible. Thank you for posting.
@JamesElmore-h4u
@JamesElmore-h4u Ай бұрын
Her normalacy is heartbreaking in a new way, so relatable.
@jamessedgwick2809
@jamessedgwick2809 4 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. Thanks for sharing! I would love to see this entire production.
@jamessedgwick2809
@jamessedgwick2809 4 жыл бұрын
@@helenaraven5784 Cool. Where?
@jamessedgwick2809
@jamessedgwick2809 4 жыл бұрын
@@helenaraven5784 Do you have a link?
@vroszii4200
@vroszii4200 2 жыл бұрын
This brings tears into my eyes
@mariomenezes5974
@mariomenezes5974 2 ай бұрын
"We taught the world new ways to dream'...
@betterversionn
@betterversionn 3 күн бұрын
This was beautiful, and was the first performance of this song I had seen. I assumed it would be the best, but then I went to go watch Glen Close's rendition, and that by far blew this out of the water. Close's performace FELT like I was watching Norma Desmond sing this song from the film. I did not get that from Lupone. Funny thing is I had first watched Madonna's Evita, and then I had seen the original revival of Evita in the early 2010s twice (once by original revival star and then by my good friend in the role who was an understudy in the show), but then I watched a few videos of Lupone's Evita, and THAT felt like a performace I had never seen of the Character...and one that was far superior to anything I had ever seen. But with that being said...at least from this one song...Close was channeling Gloria Swanson when singing this song.
@jasongould407
@jasongould407 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Sunset twice in a concert type setting then a full production in community theatre. Such a stunning show. Each Norma has her own stamp on the songs. Patti is just incredible. Judi Conelli and Michelle Lansdown were marvellous Normas.
@李欣儒-w7r
@李欣儒-w7r 2 ай бұрын
omg ,diva
@lexicapitali4383
@lexicapitali4383 Жыл бұрын
Shes fucking incredible wow
@PhilAlumb
@PhilAlumb Жыл бұрын
My favorite rendition is BARBRA'S in 1993 because..she Lived it. The Legendary STREISAND was still Great, BUT vocally a little past her prime & she was returning to Live performing. Her nerves! Her artistic arc in the song was REAL..and that's Why Andrew Loyd Webber gave it to her to record. PATTI muscled the song with that vibrato battering ram AND Glen Close "acted" it.
@Anony270
@Anony270 8 ай бұрын
Agree❤❤❤
@robertocervera912
@robertocervera912 5 ай бұрын
Barbra was and is never past her prime, the voice is just different
@michaeldreher3853
@michaeldreher3853 3 жыл бұрын
absolute genius
@jrimmer4987
@jrimmer4987 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant singing and acting
@xiomanaxoxoxo3212
@xiomanaxoxoxo3212 3 жыл бұрын
Patti is everything. Glenn killed it too. amazing women.
@leomack4432
@leomack4432 6 жыл бұрын
I want to say to all comes down to who you saw first. I had the pleasure of seeing Patti in London three days before her final performance and she was amazing. Not only did she sing With One Look in a higher key than Ms. Close but her final scene was unbelievable! The audience went wild! After this I could never listen to Glen Close sing this role, she’s just not that good a singer. I did manage to see Betty Buckley and Elaine Paige as well. Listen to how Patti sings through those long notes and never cuts them short. Brava Diva!
@jeffreyrepace785
@jeffreyrepace785 4 жыл бұрын
Probably not fair to compare Glenn to Patti, Betty or Elaine. They ARE established musical theater superstars
@williamgardiner2010
@williamgardiner2010 3 жыл бұрын
Petula Clark was also exceptionally good in the London production.
@leomack4432
@leomack4432 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamgardiner2010 I'm sorry I missed that. I bet it was wonderful.
@matthewhagner7803
@matthewhagner7803 4 жыл бұрын
This lady is magic
@allancuseo7431
@allancuseo7431 4 жыл бұрын
Love the song. Love Patti
@mahendrariantoorchestra6921
@mahendrariantoorchestra6921 3 жыл бұрын
The softness at the last verse gave me chills. Glenn close could never
@Lady_Barbara
@Lady_Barbara Жыл бұрын
Bravo!!!!!!!!!!
@rustinrogers
@rustinrogers 7 жыл бұрын
I adore her!
@sephmanatac8569
@sephmanatac8569 Жыл бұрын
Glen has soul in her singing.' Patti is just singing...
@EllenMartinNYC
@EllenMartinNYC 3 жыл бұрын
Magnificent!!!!!!!!!!!
@jbourbonnais
@jbourbonnais 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!
@seantodd8875
@seantodd8875 8 ай бұрын
Lupone is one of the greatest interpreters of Lloyd-Webber's music. All I have to say is Evita. I think she would be well cast for Rose in Aspects of Love.
@gailbrault9251
@gailbrault9251 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@grai
@grai Жыл бұрын
*we taught the world new ways to dream* 💔
@michaelrunkle7653
@michaelrunkle7653 3 жыл бұрын
Love her- second to none.
@sophiehanssel2017
@sophiehanssel2017 9 ай бұрын
I really wish I could see this show
@DeletedAccountxxx
@DeletedAccountxxx 5 жыл бұрын
As a big fan of the film, and particularly Gloria Swanson's iconic performance, I have to say that vocally Lupone is sensational. Her phrasing is perfect, here stylings are engaging and wondrous; she shines so bright, I could listen to her all day. However, at 42 years old here, I feel that she just isn't quite mature or perhaps experienced enough to understand Norma, who is supposed to be a reclusive and forgotten silent era film star in her late 50's. She has the passion, the presence, the singing chops, but dramatically she needed to be more damaged, childlike, melodramatic for the role. Glenn Close, (only two years older than Lupome), although her singing isn't quite in the same league, her performance as Norma is both moving and deranged, with undercurrents of camp fragility, mirroring Swanson in the film, all the while taking the role to a place of utter intangible torment and comic tragedy. I believe Close really understood what a vulnerable and childlike person Norma was, and she portrays that brilliantly. Both performances are without a doubt equally great, but tonally and dramatically vastly different.
@dohaperson1
@dohaperson1 5 жыл бұрын
Close "isn't quite in the same league"...actually, in terms of singing, LuPone is Mt Everest and Close is a little pile of dirt some ants made when they dug in the ground. It's difficult to compare this very early, unfinished version of Sunset with almost no rehearsal to Close's performances which were after fully rehearsing and appearing on stage. In the long run, Close's performance will remain legendary but many of the other singers' versions of the songs will live on.
@popland1977
@popland1977 5 жыл бұрын
With that logic actors could never actually perform as anything other than themselves. The whole point of their job is to play a character
@maps9957
@maps9957 5 жыл бұрын
@@popland1977 Well, yes and no. Can you really imagine a brilliant actor of a certain age, say, Streep, play Juliet, to, say, Gene Hackman's Romeo? Being mature perhaps affords them further insight into these characters, but they will not be quite as convincing. I remember hearing this from Frederica von Stade (a mezzo-soprano) and forgive me for paraphrasing, the way one carries oneself, and the presence one gives off by the time one has reached a certain age, to the audience, to the other players, it's "ridiculous" (I think her usage) for one to carry on in ingenue roles with giant bows behind one's back after a certain age. And with your logic, wouldn't you say, white actors can effectively play other ethnicities (ie. Blackface), and appropriate other identities as well irrespective of, say, a hetero- cis- white actor may never really know the true depths of a trans- person, &c.
@DeletedAccountxxx
@DeletedAccountxxx 5 жыл бұрын
​@@popland1977 I don't think you quite got what i was trying to say. Perhaps I din't express my opinion clearly enough. It's not about actors playing themselves at all. It's about the actor's interpretation of the character, that place they go to, to become someone. A person who knows themselves and has no fear can presumably play anyone and go anywhere. Some great actors can do it. Other great actors cannot, and end up playing themselves, which we still love. Close is not Norma. Close is Close. But she embodies the spirit of Norma. Lupone, on the other hand is playing more Lupone, I see Lupone. I guess some actors find roles they were almost born to play, and others are not so lucky. Not every actor can be so brilliant or convincing in a certain role. The audiences also has a role to play, our projections, out expectations, but thats a whole other story.
@Themanwhocameback2
@Themanwhocameback2 4 жыл бұрын
Why all this deference to Patti Lupone's supposed vocal superiority? To this listener her phrasing sounds clipped and mannered. Any second one expects her to segue into "Stand back, Buenos Aires!" (which I know merely from the TV commercial promoting "Evita" on New York TV back in the 70's). I've only seen Glenn Close on the two clips from the Andrew LLoyd Weber tribute concert posted here, but she is better. Her singing is better. Her diction is better. Admittedly, this looks like a rehearsal of sorts, and Glenn Close had lots more time to hone her performance, but what you people seem to be arguing about has nothing to do with refining a performance. And I am reminded more of a schoolyard squabble over whose team is better , The Mets or the Yankees.. i have never really given 2 minutes thought to either woman. But from what I have just seen here on KZbin in the last few minutes I will say I found Glenn Close's voice beautiful and and her performance very moving, and I found LuPone's neither.
@CPSmith-sc6db
@CPSmith-sc6db Жыл бұрын
Boy, this version and maybe the 1995 clip of her doing "Meadowlark" from a live concert, NOBODY sings a song through, inhabits songs the way Patti at her peak does. The vocalizations are ownership, but beyond the voice it all comes from character, how she feels it and what she feels the character has to tell us. Patti has demurred from doing live musicals going ahead, a loss to all of us, but thank goodness for examples of her art like this!
@williamgardiner2010
@williamgardiner2010 3 жыл бұрын
I saw her in the original West End production at the Adelphi, both on Press Night and many months later into the run when she had months to dig deeper into the part. Ms LuPone played it quite differently to Glenn Close. Where as Close was a desperately sad Norma Desmond, hurt and unhappy, Patti LuPone's was closer to Gloria Swanson's portrayal - desperate and quite bonkers. Certainly someone with mental health issues. So she was less 'sympathetic' than Ms Close but truly unforgettable . Her effective dismal after completing a year's run in London - she was replaced by Glenn Close on Broadway after the American backers were over the moon over the reviews for Closes's performance in Los Angeles and wanted Glenn Close - took a very long time to get over. It hurt her for many years.
@shells500tutubo
@shells500tutubo 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Glenn Close live in Sunset Blvd, and while I enjoyed it I remembered none of the songs. I bought the CD set (it was the 1990s I think) with Patti Lupone, and started singing all of them. Nothing replaces a good singer, not even fantastic acting, which Lupone also did.
@rl839
@rl839 4 жыл бұрын
Saw her in this show Orlando at the Bob Carr. Much more elaborate sets, costumes. I was front row and a friend TN the mezzanine said you could hear the beads drag down the staircase way up there. This was a good show that night!
@apolloadamos8771
@apolloadamos8771 3 жыл бұрын
No, you didn’t. You saw Petula Clark in that awful cut-rate traveling version that looked like a Carol Burnett sketch.
@pukumahi1
@pukumahi1 Жыл бұрын
Two very different interpretations but both splendid.
@stevie68a
@stevie68a 3 ай бұрын
I can't see why she was fired from this role. Just excellent.
@germanquintero10121946
@germanquintero10121946 8 ай бұрын
MAGNIFICA
@Chishannicon
@Chishannicon Жыл бұрын
I had grown up listening to Glenn Close's "With One Look" and Barbara Streisand's "As if We Never Said Goodbye." For years, I thought those songs were boring. It wasn't until I heard LuPone sing them that I finally understood how they were supposed to sound. Maybe people don't like her acting as much or think that she was miscast, but I don't believe there has ever been a more suitable voice for ALW's music on those two songs. It's a perfect marriage.
@Kksudibidhidib
@Kksudibidhidib 6 жыл бұрын
Patti was so young here she's looked the same for 30 years
@johnathansumner5988
@johnathansumner5988 5 жыл бұрын
She basically still looks the same now lol
@annedevon8666
@annedevon8666 Жыл бұрын
Where fid she do Sunset Blvd? Australia? She was always a good singer, can do dramatic rendition course
@alexfulmer3259
@alexfulmer3259 6 жыл бұрын
a masterclass in dynamic vocal pacing
@chuckpitchford3216
@chuckpitchford3216 6 ай бұрын
This is done in a small theater on ALW’s estate!!
@rugby8-Philadelphia
@rugby8-Philadelphia 3 жыл бұрын
Brava Diva!!! 😎😎😎
@ers586
@ers586 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo.
@steveharding9524
@steveharding9524 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Patti as Norma in London followed by Glenn in LA (and then Betty Buckley and Elaine Paige back in London). Each actor brought something different to the role but, do not be mistaken, Patti’s performance was sensational and moving and she brought the (London) audience to their/our feet. No mean feat. I was also lucky enough to see Patti with Seth Rudetsky in London a few years ago when finally she agreed to sing With One Look again and in the original key! It was a wonderfully moving reminder of just how much Patti had brought to the original SB production...
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