Paul and the Palm Trees | DUNE 2021 |

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[@Whatsuppbuddies]

'Should we remove them? Save the water?' 'Fuck dude you want me out of a job?'

[@robertjohnston8690]

Watering 20 trees is a cushy job indeed.

[@santibanez91]

homie almost talk himself out of his own job.

[@Solaxe]

@@robertjohnston8690 in a hellish heat

[@aliensoup2420]

@@Solaxe He should be watering them at night so the day heat does not evaporate the water.

[@claudiamanta1943]

@@aliensoup2420 Indeed. And it would have made a much more atmospheric scene- Paul, not being able to sleep, takes a stroll in the garden…

[@Hprost1]

What a lot of people don’t get is that the “old dream” is that of a lush paradise planet like the Fremen hope for. The palms are important as they represent the prophetic hope of the native inhabitants

[@Hprost1]

An Arrakis that is filled with water and vegetation brought by Lisan al Gaib, or “giver of water”. It’s originally supposed to be Paul though he forsakes the golden path and Leto II must take on the role. He eventually fulfills the prophecy

[@Debilitator47]

It is worthy to note that in the book, the Fremen are 'Zen-sunni wanderers'. In the Fremen's deep history, they remember lush garden settlements, eating figs and baklava by the water - open water, for all. The dream is a remembrance, told by oral history, of something that was taken from them by powers unnamed, who resettled the population as indentured workers on other worlds. They were slaves. Eventually some escaped into the deserts of Arrakis. The dream is that eventually they will remake Arrakis into the likeness of the places they were taken from, and which were taken from them.

[@apothesiscannon1682]

The twisted irony of this is Leto II, who fufills the prophecy, at the cost of the Fremen. They have their lush paradise, but the society that remains isn't Fremen anymore. In a way, the prophecy never comes to pass, as Fremen society cannot coexist with plentitude, only with conflict and scarcity.

[@Milnip]

nerds

[@mupsoftaren]

@@Milnip NPC

[@giovannigonzalez6349]

I just love the way Paul says “hello” he sounds like a kid saying hi to a stranger. But then you remember he is

[@tuthiii]

Only 14

[@Rauruatreides]

​@@tuthiii15*

[@magetaaaaaa]

Paul is super well educated and mature for his age! Alia - hold my beer.

[@epicchocolate1866]

@@tuthiiiIn the book

[@Diego-lt4wm]

I'm 22 and I still say hi like that haha

[@mistertea603]

I love that he immediately sees the implications of of the palm trees and asks *if* they should be removed- not declaring that they shall be...putting the power in the hand of the man who cares for them.

[@eibhlinniccolla]

@@mordekaishekelbergiv.4211 he pities the fool

[@paullucas3]

I hate that they burn later in the movie….. Implying that the dream dies. Builders and destroyers in our everyday lives and even our dreams.

[@Kncperseus]

The man who cares for them is someone who has been around them for longer than Paul or any other. Asking what is the best thing to do with something is the wise thing to do when there's an expert around. It's just like how you should go to a doctor when you get sick instead of imagining that KZbin advices are cool.

[@x808drifter]

And in reality in the book the guy would say yes the should be removed and the water saved. Paul also never talks to this guy in the book.

[@Tranxhead]

It is interesting that they went for the trees being sacred in the film. What they sacrifice for the trees gives an indication of how fanatical the Fremen can be, which is what the Bene Gesserit and Atreides are looking for in them.

[@shehansoysa571]

Rip to Seun Shote who played the gardener. Thanks for being a part of this dream.

[@edensky5825]

RIP

[@harveymoment]

Damn didn't know he died, he sold the fuck out of this scene. RIP

[@g.s.632]

Oh that is sad…This man had such class while acting. Rest in peace.

[@BenAri18]

Small role yet made the scene and helped set the atmosphere of the people of Arrakis, Rest in Peace

[@DanBeech-ht7sw]

Died in the heat?

[@xerat3562]

I love how wholesome Paul sounds when he says "Hello"

[@hoon_sol]

Almost sounds like a parodic "bad lip-reading" video, heh.

[@pderham26]

Shut up

[@elementoon1651]

@@hoon_solit exists 💀

[@valeriotardio1746]

Paul generally is a cutie patootie

[@dylanehooverlibrarian7026]

This was such an interesting inversion of the book's rendition of the scene. In the novel, the trees existed by Harkonnen decree, a symbol of colonizer excesses in a landscape that can afford little beyond the raw essentials of survival. Here, these tie into the larger theme of Fremen independence, and how their culture - however irrational in the eyes of the offworlders - is an act of defiance against a world that wants them dead.

[@ninjadudeofficial]

On the other hand, a pity we lost all the things that were added from the dinner scene/section from the book, although I understand that it likely just seemed too long

[@Alienoiable]

@udeofficialNot just that, but a lot would have been lost in the change of media. All the important things in this scene are seen through the character's thoughts and most of the dialogues would completely flew over people's heads without proper explanation. It's sad we didn't get it but it wouldn't have made any sense for it to be included, sadly. My own pet peeves with the movie is Jessica's portrayal. She comes out as a person a lot less in control and a lot more panicked than she really is in the books.

[@sonderofwhales9916]

In the book people have mixed reactions to the trees. Some hate them, some envy the wealth they represent, some love them as a testament of the dream - it’s not purely a symbol of Harkonnen oppression. I think they portrayed them as solely positive in the movie to balance out not getting Kynes’ thoughts. That’s where we initially learn about the importance of trying to green Arrakis to the Fremen in the book.

[@aidanwarren4980]

I think you’re misremembering the novel. In the equivalent scene, the Harkonnens aren’t mentioned in relation to the date palms. You may be confusing the date palms for the secret greenhouse/conservatory that Lady Jessica finds in the palace, but that too is not explicitly said to be Harkonnen in origin and is held too secret to be a royal flex.

[@asurmenhandofasuryan4610]

@@Alienoiable At least Jessica's portrayal changed a fair bit in part 2. Where she is very much in control then.

[@thefrub]

Las Vegas/Los Angeles golf course owners during a drought be like:

[@Obscurite1221]

Those are two very different places buddy. Most of Las Vegas has swapped away from grass yards because they literally cost a fine to own now.

[@AesirUnlimited]

@@Obscurite1221It’s a joke pal. Lighten up.

[@Obscurite1221]

@@AesirUnlimited It's not a joke though. We had to declare emergency drought conditions because California can't spend some of their own money to fix their own damn water issues. It was enough of an issue, in fact, that the federal government stepped in and basically ordered that California reduce their water usage.

[@AesirUnlimited]

@@Obscurite1221 Yeesh pal, chill out a bit.

[@mistermr2147]

​@@Obscurite1221 California deserves plenty of blame but don't let that distract you from the fact that Vegas as a major metro area should not exist (and may very well not last with the water running out).

[@robotkiller99]

Watching this after Dune 2, I just now realized he got up to look at a projection of a Muad’Dib, which is what saved his life.

[@benjaminb6678]

good catch

[@IwinMahWay]

What?? Please explain

[@benjaminb6678]

@@IwinMahWay When Paul is watching the educational holograms about Arrakis on his bed, he gets up when he notices the Muad’Dib and immediately takes a liking to it. While he’s up the hunter-seeker drone drills through the wall right where his head was. If he was still in bed, he almost certainly would’ve been killed.

[@IwinMahWay]

@@benjaminb6678 thanks

[@OnlyInCyprus4]

This movie really is a masterpiece.

[@ogukuo72]

@George Blumenthal And except for all those slow moving parts filled with pregnant silence.

[@usul21]

@George Blumenthal You didn't read the book. Feel sorry for you ;)

[@justareader____]

@@ogukuo72 oh no! A movie didn’t have marvel action in every scene!!!! Reeee Idiots like you are why movies suck nowadays. Stories aren’t allowed to be anything but mindless action.

[@ryanwilliams4223]

Had its moments flattened out near the end for me 8/10 though reckon it could be even more though if they pushed harder.

[@fillemonshigwedha5160]

@@ryanwilliams4223 it's based on a book so they can't add anything you are trying to talk about. They stayed faithful to the book. For me it's a 10/10

[@cameronpearce5943]

I wanna listen to the rest of that holo journal about Arakus

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

I would be surprised to learn that there isn't something like that already.

[@thomasholland5487]

I would love it if they sold a projector that came with the info doc. That's be really cool. Or maybe a collector's edition hologram kit from the scene.

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

Narrated by David Attenbourogh the 69420th

[@MeesdeFilmliefhebber]

The extra's on the blu ray for Dune have additional audio recordings from Joe Walker about the cultures of the Dune universe.

[@stanleysdad]

I think that it’s taken from the appendices of the novel

[@enzov9772]

I just love the way Paul says "Hello". It feels like how I'd start a conversation with an NPC

[@GeorgeThoughts]

Do you get to the Cloud District very often?

[@SirBenjiful]

It was one of the few moments in the movie where he actually seemed like an awkward kid.

[@v.hamilton5679]

except YOU are the NPC

[@SoDakJason]

@@GeorgeThoughts I used to be an adventurer like you.

[@sathira_anuk5179]

​@@v.hamilton5679nope

[@HumorOfANerd]

cool how he smiles at the desert mouse, hinting at what he chooses as his fremen name in the 2nd film. i need to rewatch the first one now after seeing 2nd.

[@danieldevito6380]

This movie is an ABSOLUTE masterpiece

[@_PeterGabriel1216]

Not really.

[@rohanvatturkar1928]

So what is a masterpiece according to you?

[@danceyrselfkleen]

@@rohanvatturkar1928 any of the Paul Blart Mall Cop movies

[@xristosrizos8406]

@@_PeterGabriel1216 an absolute masterpiece indeed

[@Solaxe]

@@_PeterGabriel1216 you're right, it's an absolute fucking masterpiece instead

[@TheDrexxus]

This movie is so interesting. So many scenes feel like nothing is really going on, but they're all so deeply interesting to watch anyway.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

Everything has a meaning. If you read the book you'd see every single one of them

[@RadTrashed]

It's fascinating watching this scene and understanding it's significance regarding the kinda mission statement of the Fremen. I watched the movie first and read the book after, and the "old dream" being to make Arrakis into a paradise is intriguing. It's weird how so much of what was said in the film went over my head prior to reading the book. Now this, and the interaction between Jessica and Mapes makes a lot more sense to me. Denis Villenueve really gets Dune and its world.

[@x808drifter]

​@@gezenews It was never mentioned in the book what the Fremen thought of it. But it is kinda implied Kynes likes it when Jessica says to the water seller/banker (can't remember which one) that she is going to keep it in trust for those on Arakis instead of removing it.

[@aidanwarren4980]

@@gezenews you’re confusing the palms for the conservatory. There was a sealed-off secret greenhouse that Jessica found. The palms were outdoors. In the book, the discussion of the palm trees is between Jessica and Dr. Yueh, with Jessica asking the questions and Yueh explaining. It’s implied that the city-dwellers had mixed feelings about the date palms: some looking jealous of the water it took to maintain them, others looking somewhat hopeful. Yueh, feeling pessimistic, chalks the hopeful stares up to passers by hoping a date would fall.

[@pepleatherlab3872]

Remember, Arrakis was once a tropical paradise. It was terraformed to a desert wasteland to promote Melange Spice production with the introduction of the sand trout, which evolved into giant destructive worms. There's always an element of false environmentalism among fans of the series. The planet went from tropical to desert, then back to tropical as Melange usage waxed then waned under varying royal decrees. I seem to remember at some point half the planet returned to tropical jungle and worms became rare as the sand receded. The Fremen were likely descendants of the original terra formers. If anything Herbert's position was that of human dynamism. Causality of introducing humans and their systems (ecologic, religious, political, scientific and commercial) to new planets. 'Wherever you go,..there you are.'

[@wmascolin]

Is this from the original dune encyclopedia? Because as far as I know Arrakis wasn't terraformed for spice production? But also I've only read the prequels and the first three books.

[@TomLiberman]

Um, no.

[@Despotic_Waffle]

@@wmascolin God Emperor of dune talks a bit about it

[@ComradeOgilvy1984]

The idea that the sand trout came from somewhere else is barren and uninteresting. Herbert parachuted that tidbit in from nowhere and never bothered to develop it, because it was so completely stupid. The fundamental problem is that some secret sect creating the sand trout undermines the themes Herbert developed in the series. He is trying paint a broadstrokes picture of the struggles between forces of human history on a giant canvas, and such a sect does not fit anywhere on that giant canvas. The Tleilaxu is the closest fit, but the Tleilax we know from the books would have successfully exploited such technology for power.

[@matodragonespor5000]

I have only read the first book, so correct me if there's more info in the other books, but the first one perfectly explaines that Arrakis had oceans but thousands of years ago. When mankind discovered Arrakis it was already a desert and they were going to terraform it into a tropical paradise... until they discovered melange, then they decided to keep the planet as a hostile wasteland as long as it provided spice. That's why there were ecological stations that were never used. Pardot Kynes and Liet Kynes' plan was to secretly terraform Arrakis little by little in order to transform the planet into a tropical paradise but keeping the deep deserts intact, so there'd be biodiversity of ecosystems, the worms that are sacred to the Fremen would not be extinguished and they could keep producing melange. The Fremen were the only ones that actually knew where the melange came from and that it was involved with the worms. To the rest of the empire it was like "The sand has spice, who knows why, but keep it comming!" Also, the Fremen were descendants of the Zensunni, that traveled from planet to planet escaping from enslavers, until they arrived to Arrakis where they remainded since the planet was so hostile their persecutors would not bother to follow them there.

[@wildbill9490]

Love the awkwardly casual “hello” lol

[@hyperkaioken4982]

I love how paul never gets sun burnt during these movies. Mf my white ass has a red nose during the first day in spain

[@juannaym8488]

he's always covered up and maybe the sun is different on Arakis or something

[@DrNiradino]

Sunburns happen due to sun radiation, rather then heat. Worst sunburns I ever got was when I traveled atop Elbrus. Despite being in a subzero temperature up there and seeing snow all around me, I ended up red as a lobster when I got back to the ground.

[@hyperkaioken4982]

@@DrNiradino i'm well aware of that. However. When you're in a sunny climate even in the shade you get pretty tanned. I went to egypt for 3 weeks and spent most of my time shaded and still went home brown af

[@hiibillymayshere4238]

@@DrNiradino Uhhh, you can clearly see the sun and it's rays are extremely intense here Lmao.

[@Parasmunt]

This film was a nice return to committed, quality cinema. It was actually a beautiful adventure, they got the mystical feel of it correct. This scene shows how shitty the Harkonnen were, there is a lake of water underneath Arrakis - if they had wanted to they could have worked with the Fremen as Leto tried to do immediately on arriving, respect the Fremen, get the Spice, bring forth a little water too. Everybody is happy. The Harkonnen remind me of our own leadership today, Earth too could be a paradise.

[@FezFindie]

Really speaks to me, as a gardener/landscaper at a manor, this scene.

[@johnno7052]

Classic,hope they do the whole series of books.

[@chalkieface9968]

Dunno, I wished I'd never read the rest of the series once I started. There's a reason nobody ever tried making any of the other books.

[@lorentzfactor5118]

@@chalkieface9968 I dunno I actually quite like the message of dune messiah. After the series just keeps going on and on though it does start getting old.

[@chalkieface9968]

@@lorentzfactor5118 I agree it's down to personal taste. Just that for me, having read a few (hoping for an improvement) it ruined the memory of the first.

[@lorentzfactor5118]

@@chalkieface9968 yeah that's fair enough

[@THEMAX00000]

John Bray They didn’t stick to the mythology of the first book, so they sure won’t be making any of the other ones strictly speaking You’ll get plenty more woke crap labeled Dune, rest assured

[@sportschad]

He's not the Lisan al Gaib, he's a very naughty boy!

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

HE IS THE LISAN AL GAIB!!!!! HE IS TOO HUMBLE TO SAY HE IS!!!! IT IS AS IT WAS WRITTEN

[@kubikkuratko188]

The Fremen: "Are you a virgin?" Jessica: *Slams the doors shut.* The Fremen: "As written!"

[@dennisduncan7561]

People complaining about the scene not being in the book get over it. No adaption of a book to film has been 100% faithful.

[@lorefox201]

also it's a good scene which adds context rather that changing the focus of the movie

[@Gwestytears]

It was sorta in the book

[@Slopmaster]

@@Gwestytears wasn’t it with Jessica instead and indoors?

[@Gwestytears]

@@Slopmaster yes

[@artelislt]

@@Gwestytears Yes it is in the book, it is mentioned that it needs a lot of water and other things

[@k.-flynn]

Love this reference to the Mua'Dib

[@Name-ot3xw]

If you walk without rythm you won't attract the worm. It's crazy how many references to Dune are spread across all media.

[@remancyrodiilv4434]

This scene has a total different weight when you realize that Paul's revolution will eventually lead to the God-Emperor Leto II Atreides indeed turning Arrakis into a paradise just like the Fremen dream

[@patfov]

After watching part 2, this scene hits different

[@otakusuperior]

This is probably my favourite scene in the movie.

[@spartanlz]

The little Desert Mouse in this scene is way more important after having seen Part 2. Muad'Dib

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

Paul wanting to remove the trees to save lives is pretty wholesome. Too bad how he eventually turns out

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

He still is but its a bit of a spoiler and also if you really think about it Paul basically has no other choice than to basically throw away his Morals over political necessity because if he didn't he would basically die, with his adopted people.

[@juannaym8488]

he still cared about lives in the long term

[@AUniqueHandleName444]

@@forickgrimaldus8301 And the entire human race, eventually.

[@sw-gs]

Details in this movie are insane. Look at the background, how air is hot.

[@Parasmunt]

LOL modern people raised in the age of Disney and Netflix marvel at a level of attention to detail that was once a standard in the industry.

[@sw-gs]

@@Parasmunt I am older than you.

[@eon5323]

And yet no one is sweating. No one has dry parched lips. At no point does the movie convey a character dealing with something like heat exhaustion. Its really weird. The water that guy is just pouring on the sand should be lightly sizzling.

[@michaelcurcio4025]

I must say, against all preconceptions,I like this new Dune.

[@dandyjandon4231]

can't wait for part 2!

[@africanelectron751]

Speaking as a gardener....thags a awful way to water a plant in a dry environment... Sink a pipe under the ground and water from there

[@BenMoranFilms]

Also don't do it at mid day! Perhaps it's a further demonstration of Harkonnen wealth: they don't even have to be efficient in the way in which they water the trees.

[@willwolf8436]

@@BenMoranFilms perhaps it's more of a symbolic thing than a practical one?

[@Debilitator47]

This is a wealth display, not a garden of and for itself. In the book, each tree requires enough water to keep 5 men alive in the desert. There are 20 trees, so the garden is 100 men's survival in the deep desert worth of wealth. A wasteful, willful opulence. It is a multi-layered slap in the face of the population of the planet by the Harkonnen. The Atreides, specifically Lady Jessica, adopt and repurpose the trees (and the unseen in the movie, inner house sealed garden) as a promise to the people of better times to come. Sadly, the emperor and the Harkonnen have other intent.

[@grimmriffer]

That would be a lot less cinematic. 😉

[@EgoEroTergum]

Ceremony trumps efficiency, when the people need hope more than a drink.

[@strikeforcealpha9343]

Ten minutes outside will kill you, Paul goes for a stroll oO

[@robertknop5158]

And with no head cover, in a tight black outfit. This honestly kills the impression of how dangerous the climate of Arrakis is.

[@davecrupel2817]

​@@robertknop5158 Agreed.

[@IwinMahWay]

Maybe it's the morning time

[@davecrupel2817]

@@IwinMahWay only when the sun is on the horizon, is Arrakis safe to traverse without a stillsuit. Any higher, and the surface heats right up.

[@AUniqueHandleName444]

@@robertknop5158 He's a spoiled rich kid doing dumb shit in what is still a basically safe environment thanks to it being, y'know, in his palace courtyard.

[@KittyPieVibes]

The mouse is the best character

[@sharkboy85]

Always love the inclusion of this scene

[@palmerlp]

The only complaint I have here is she puts the knife away “unblooded,” which Jessica points out in the book. Fremen don’t draw their blades without “blooding” them. Later in the film when the Fremen draw blades on Jessica and Paul, they all cut themselves to get blood on the blades before sheathing them again. Not sure why Villeneuve didn’t do that in this scene.

[@stephenking5852]

I noticed that too, but at least everything else about that scene was good. Did the original movie make the same mistake?

[@pderham26]

There are lots of other issues

[@grantcoffman2698]

​@@pderham26oh hush, would you rather have David Lynchs Dune? This Dune 2021 is a gift to cinema

[@pderham26]

@@grantcoffman2698 so, like, it doesn't have issues? Do you not think critically? Have you even read the book

[@dustydeemer8347]

​@pderham26 movies can have issues and you can not cry like a nerd abt it

[@ilmarilles]

This is a powerful scene telling alot about the foundation of faith - an old dream.

[@pderham26]

Shut up

[@markwaldron8954]

This scene, which is not in the book, could actually be a Villeneuve reference to Philip K. Dick's work. In PKD's VALIS, the coming Golden Age is symbolized by a palm tree garden. Villeneuve is familiar with PKD's work, having co-written Blade Runner 2049, which not only has references to the novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? which is the basis of Blade Runner, but has references to PKD's larger work as well, including VALIS.

[@cavsanocrazy]

The scene itself is not in the book but the discussion about palm trees does come up.

[@hoon_sol]

Not even remotely the case here. Yes, Villeneuve is familiar with PKD, but here he's focusing entirely on the story of Dune. The dream in question is the dream of the Fremen to terraform Arrakis into a luscious world.

[@claudiamanta1943]

And all of them are references to the Bible 🙄

[@blueshit199]

I like the subtle implications in this scene, no on-the-nose bs

[@transformersrevenge9]

On the nose bs comes in part 2.

[@hisdudeness8328]

Damn, I need a hood like that guy’s got.

[@singalongwrudy8690]

The Ministry Of Funny Walks

[@Dakarn]

Glad I'm not the only one to go to Monty Python references.

[@myrkwood4741]

1:55 the little hint of his name by fremen Usul, desert mouse 😂

[@DanBeech-ht7sw]

M'aud Dib is desert mouse. Usul means base of the pillar

[@flippert0]

"These are sacred. Old dream" - sadly, Seun Shote who played the gardener, passed away unexpectedly at the age of 47 (in 2021)

[@caseclosed9342]

I love the sandworm art

[@joaopauloadlergomesdacosta282]

Shouldn't plants be watered more at sundown, or even at night, to actually avoid loosing water by evaporation?

[@CodaMission]

We can probably write this off by pointing to Arakeen's climate dampening technology to soften the impact of the sun.

[@Circa1628]

At this point it probably veers into 'because it is the tradition'

[@x808drifter]

​@@CrayTom Exactly. He even says each palm takes multiple liters of water each day and that is barely even 1 liter he's got.

[@battlesheep2552]

Probably can't survive the whole day without water

[@greenbean4422]

This is like the most inefficient way to feed a plant water, yes

[@Paccyd33]

I was only half paying attention on my first watch of this film but this always stuck with me

[@benchristopher9601]

Whta most comments don't remember is that the gardener talks about half of the people being outside thinking that the trees will drop food, not knowing that the tree isn't in season

[@pderham26]

What the absolute fuck is this comment

[@richardextall2002]

Great scene.

[@twanlenaerts1512]

A sandworm can become 400 metres long but a shepherd's tree has roots that are 450 feet deep. why do they keep switching measurement systems throughout this movie?

[@haroldbrown893]

It's the future

[@CedarHunt]

Why wouldn't any advanced society use both or more systems of measurement?

[@twanlenaerts1512]

@@CedarHunt that just makes no sense, it's far more easier to calculate and convert within the metric system instead of the inch/feet/yard/mile fuckfest that is the imperial sytem.

[@squallstopher608]

@@CedarHunt Because it's inefficient

[@kevint1910]

@@squallstopher608 good point unlike the US government who has no right to adopt forms of expression like measurements an emperor does have the power to impose anything he wants and likely would have i mean it was Napoleon who imposed metric on pain of death after all.

[@Jobe-13]

Awesome

[@PeREzLoWKZ]

Paul: Hello :)… That keeper: T H E F U C K?….

[@Kal_El1994]

I need the music at the start right now.

[@marshmelows]

Paul Trees

[@haydengalloway5177]

The aesthetic of this movie is great even though I think the tech is silly.

[@karlstriepe8050]

Move without rhythm, and you won't attract the worm!

[@wasistdas]

what this track ID in the beginning, the one with a „prayer“? thx

[@ironcladnomad5639]

As someone who lives in the desert southwest of the US, it was a little startling to hear saguaro mentioned.

[@adventure_skaut]

Kinda sad how you see the trees burning during the harkonnen attack

[@claudiamanta1943]

It made me wonder whether they were harvesting the spice during the night. You would expect the inhabitants of such planet to be active during the night and sleep during the day.

[@stomil]

Couldn't they decide on single metric system???

[@fatimaiqbal7965]

He could be watching old documentaries lol

[@20sshilk]

Idk man, we live on a single planet and even we don't have a single system lol

[@DanBeech-ht7sw]

I the book, no-one knows that the Fremen ride sandworms. It's their secret

[@madridyava]

Good thing for movie makers is that people dont know much about (agriculture) or everything. If you want to water those trees on a place where water is scarce, you should do it during late evening,(2,3 hours later sunset in Dunes case so water could be used by the trees and not evaporate immediately. Even todays world, farmers water their plants in the evening so during the night water dont evaporate much and could be taken by the plant or tree. In dunes case one should open a crack around the tree 15, 20 cm deep then after watering in this crack he/she should cover it with earth for proficiency. Just saying...But we alll bought it Denis dont worry... Movie is still good.

[@RikerLovesWorf]

I just realized the "old dream" is a foreshadowing of what Leto II would do to Arrakis

[@aldosam5317]

Desert planet Dressed in black

[@marshmelows]

Palm and Paul Trees

[@richard1493]

_Paulm Trees_

[@h0rn3d_h1st0r1an]

Heheheheheh nice

[@abdulkornes3088]

there were so many scenes that should not have been deleted from this film, they could have got rid of this one easily.

[@josesierraromero8316]

Annunaki trees, a valious,taste and nutritive gift.. this movie is full of messages

[@mkultra2456]

lol the Anunnaki aren't trees.

[@josesierraromero8316]

@@mkultra2456 no,the date palms,the date ARE Annunaki 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mkultra2456]

​@@josesierraromero8316 Anunnaki are ancient Sumerian gods, not trees. Look that word up and see for yourself. Is English not your first language?

[@josesierraromero8316]

@@mkultra2456 yours not clearly..mine is self learning

[@mkultra2456]

@@josesierraromero8316 loool look up the word Annunaki right now on Google. "The Anunnaki are a group of deities of the ancient Sumerians, Akkadians, Assyrians and Babylonians. In the earliest Sumerian writings about them, which come from the Post-Akkadian period, the Anunnaki" Anunnaki are not trees you moron.

[@cugamer8862]

I hate this video clip spelling out the sandwalk. In the book Paul figures it out from seeing Fremen moving in the desert, which adds to they myth of his "knowing their ways as if born to them." If the sandwalk is common knowledge that undercuts the idea of Paul being the fulfillment of the prophecy.

[@jackdaw7792]

I agree. They still could've had a scene like this by making it obvious that although the concept is known, the actual method isn't. Then, just by learning the movements were possible, Paul would intuitively know them.

[@iconocast]

humanity is manufacturing their messiah remember

[@TheBrynoch]

Anyone observing Fremen move in the desert would have noticed the sandwalk. If a tribe, no matter how isolated from a modern society, did the electric slide whenever they walked over sand it would be well known and commented on. The Fremen are isolated but they aren't removed from society. Frank Herbert missed the obvious here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5ulnKJ7gpWGiac

[@ComradeOgilvy1984]

It works better in film to have Paul watching a documentary because the audience needs it explained out loud what it is and why, or those who have not read the books would be confused. In the book, we hear Paul's internal dialogue noting the those he thinks are probably fremen all moving in this particular style and realizing it is probably important. Movie audiences tend to find hearing voice overs and internal dialogue tedious. Since it is completely natural that Paul would be studying this new planet, a small snippet of documentary does not grate.

[@BillOweninOttawa]

@@TheBrynoch It's not obvious. This is obvious. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5uUqp6QjNmDj6s

[@foru221]

palm tree, place where mary and isa ❤️

[@onesolopolo4194]

Extra context, the Fremen drink the blood of the dead because their fluids are so valuable - when the gardener said “they drink the equivalent of 5 men”, he was being very, very literal.

[@JayEzOweEnn]

paulm trees

[@roryks]

I wish you had tacked on the scene of those same trees burning during the invasion.

[@MaxWelton]

Paulm trees

[@camw3942]

Anyone know the kind of instrument being played at 1:25?

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

Synth keyboard

[@oosfrok]

That would be a musical instrument.

[@TamaHAHA]

why is the sandworm 400m long but the roots 450 feet deep?

[@hansofaxalia]

Why are there feudal nobles in the future who employ drug addicted mutants to travel in space?

[@JohannVF]

Is the opening chant on the soundtrack?

[@Cyfix15]

is there a high pitch noise at the end. its so disturbing

[@VideoMask93]

I can hear it--I wonder if that's foreshadowing the hunter-seeker that's about to show up. Though I don't remember that when I saw this in theaters.

[@Josh-bf6ht]

it's almost painful with airpods in

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

Acting like he isn’t outside in brutal heat , because he isn’t

[@flippert0]

Ironically, only the trunks of the trees are real, the leaves are made out of metal, so they can "burn" later on more dramatically.

[@jugel4533]

Why did the documentary talk distances with meters and feet a sentence apart? 1:26 "400 meters", 2:01 "450 feet" it's just confusing first for americans, and confusing after it for everyone else

[@reginaldshort8486]

It would’ve been better to bring drought tolerant trees that produce edible seeds.

[@caciliawhy5195]

I believe the planet was once lush and green and it had been made into a spice desert because they needed the spice.

[@ohdahngboi_2237]

Arrakis was once a water world, until some unknown entity or event long before humanity existed brought the shai halud to the planet and and the worms terraformed the planet to their needs. Then humanity discovered it and then malange was discovered and now we’re here

[@deker0954]

All desserts were once lush and green land.

[@ohdahngboi_2237]

@@deker0954 or oceans

[@nationalsocialism3504]

​@@ohdahngboi_2237 we really need to start treating Brian's books as the sub-par fanfic that it is... only Frank Herbert's books are real & his sons can be thrown into the dumpster where they belong

[@davecrupel2817]

For some perspective, What he's doing is the fremen equivalent of Vatican Guards protecting, and keeping clean, the tomb where Jesus Christ is buried. IF such a tomb existed. Thats the nature of his duty.

[@VictoriaWindsordeLaBoulaye]

The NASA ‘sand worms’ came for my birth in Sudbury. I LOVE worms and the worms LOVE me ❤️✌️🤓👍

[@michaelh13]

How do sand worms survive out there and have the calories necessary to grow to up to 400 feet if there's no other wild life and scant plant life to sustain them?

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

Same way blue whales survive. The sandworms filter out tiny organisms from the sand. They are constantly moving around, filtering sand and eating. They also obviously eat things on the surface that they detect. There is other wildlife on the planet, it isn't just humans and sandworms.

[@x808drifter]

Supposedly they eat plankton in the sand. Trust me it makes very little sense and is one of those don't look to close things.

[@cobiknecht3607]

More shocking is, that they could grow up to 400 meters, not foot. That would be roughly 1.200 feet…

[@sampsonlll1825]

They live via nuclear biological fission like Shin Godzilla.

[@bruceclark7198]

The worm is the spice. The spice is the worm. -Paul (Dune 1984)

[@Poenitus92]

the Paulm trees

[@ITZGR82BFREE]

That little amount of water poured on the surface would never reach any roots.

[@dustinbreakey4707]

shits heavy

[@TNTspaz]

I can't even remember from the books. Does Arrakis ever recover after Leto dies? I know they don't need it anymore but I can't remember if they actually mention if the planet ever recovers or if Leto spawned more worms there For those that don't know. The planet isn't desert because of humans. It's desert because of the worms. They terraformed the planet after being transported there by outside forces

[@Dragonwolfworm]

If I recall correctly, Dune actually explodes in one of the books. I don't remember which though and it happened a long time after Leto dies.

[@TNTspaz]

@JavaDragon86 Damn. This is really making me want to get back into reading the books cause I don't remember that at all I don't doubt it happened though. When Leto died. Things kind of got crazy and the plot moved at a super fast pace. Since we were essentially seeing the aftermath of them successfully completeing the Golden Path

[@nationalsocialism3504]

​@@TNTspaz his son really ruined the story by going off the rails with it after his father died

[@x808drifter]

​@@nationalsocialism3504 I just like if you haven't read the books or know the story you think Paul is the good guy. It's totally not black/white.

[@nationalsocialism3504]

@@x808drifter Paul is kinda the "good guy" in that he didn't ask for any of this and is just playing his part within a far wider tapestry set into motion millenia before. There's no real difference or outcome even if Paul was killed... the Bene Gesserit breeding program would still be existing & other potential Kwisatz Haderach would be available in the attempt to finally realize one. Leto II knew what he was doing and chose to go ahead with it for the "greater good" when he became the God-Emperor in comparison to his father

[@Jamal-jv8yc]

Why is he watering in the middle of the day? Why not at night?

[@So-Be-It_85949]

2021

[@mrevilniceguy1]

What shit luck for the dude who got sealed into the wall that his hunter killer emerged right when there was a break in the audio of the hologram for it to be so noticeable.

[@jocap3837]

The sardaukar had beef with those trees burnt them to the ground. The Harkonnen where fucking surprised, those where there's to begin with.

[@20sshilk]

What is the song playing in the beginning, I can't find it anywhere

[@20sshilk]

m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3yYooCHp8uYfLM

[@bejuco]

It's called 'Tooth of Shai Hulud' by Theo Green feat. Czarina Russell. Seems like it wasn't released in any official soundtrack.

[@The13thMaker]

"400 meters in length" lol

[@spikedpsycho2383]

They have space ships Kilometers Long, frequently transport spice, but the ships cant transport water from water ocean worlds

[@blueshit199]

the outside universe doesn't care about the well being of the fremen, on the contrary actually

[@Despotic_Waffle]

They probably did transport a supply of water when leaving from Caladan. If you meant to terraform, it's because the sandworms die in water.