Paul Heyman on Vince and Shane's Relationship | Mr. McMahon | Netflix

[@moneymigzz]

Paul Heyman should’ve been the narrator for this doc.

[@evancrum6811]

Just give him 2hrs to talk

[@ermonski]

The only reason Heyman didn't narrate this documentary is because TRIPLE H DIDN'T WANNA WORK TUESDAYS

[@ThePhysicalReaction]

couldn't have paid him enough for that

[@Onslaught516]

facts

[@JonnyMack23]

He should be the narrator for everything all the time!

[@vbadger1056]

I’ve always felt like Shane is the normal McMahon who is nothing like his father and this doc really showed that

[@Dusterbugless]

Steph is normal too with a heart

[@Mysteryz-li2pw]

@@DusterbuglessI wouldn’t say Steph is entirely normal either

[@Dusterbugless]

@ very normal. She cares and everything. Spent tons of money to on Scott Hall. She has a heart. She refused to do dumb storylines and she stands on business.

[@Figs3]

​@@Mysteryz-li2pwwhy do you think she left when Vince tried to come back?

[@rebelsnappingturtle5097]

Very much so Linda. Took a lot of shit from Vinny. Not the same as Vince's employee tho. Stephanie...almost as scary as Vincenzo. Shane...seems like he had some good ideas. But not in dad's co. What's with the new UFC WWE having Mrs triple h front and center. She reminds me of a female manager who harassed me and wanted me to screw her. Not enough soap in this world to clean my 8 inches.

[@YeTism]

Heyman is one hell of a storyteller

[@Stevedrums741]

No one is better.

[@mr.b9613]

According to a lot of people who worked with him, he's also a huge bullshitter.

[@MrRedFox87]

Ultimate Con Man lol

[@TyMarshall007]

Greatest Booker ever

[@LuiJoD316]

@@mr.b9613 Those things tend to go hand in hand. Gotta be creative with both for it to be good.

[@mitchwiegand8078]

Paul Heyman is the best. You never know if he's just telling a story, or if he's telling a real story! I love it.

[@fingersTitan]

3rd best. Bobby is No 1 by a clear mile. Even Paul will agree with that.

[@kswheels]

@@fingersTitan Cornette 2nd? If so I'd flip it. Heenan, Heyman, Cornette.

[@Rjensen2]

So not knowing whether he's being truthful or not makes him the best? 😂

[@kswheels]

@@Rjensen2 In wrestling? Yes. You literally just described the goal of a wrestler or manager.

[@Rjensen2]

@@kswheels This isn't wrestling, it's a documentary or interview. This isn't that hard, is it? Don't you know the difference between real life and a TV show? 😂

[@ryankeefe2102]

Ive always gotten the vibe Shane loves his dad. But shane doesn't like his dad

[@greentaco3402]

Always got the polar opposite vibe, Shane's like the black sheep of the family

[@ahmedmaklad6527]

Because he is the black sheep of the family

[@no_real_names7156]

​@@greentaco3402Shane must have hated himself, look at all the insane bumps he would make himself take

[@albertotorres_1]

@@greentaco3402maybe being the black sheep of the family, saves Shane’s sanity.

[@mike584]

​@@albertotorres_1I second this. He's likely a far better father to his own children than Vince was to him.

[@BourgeoisBoys]

lol It's like Succession on steroids

[@julianstrayhornii6234]

Comibine Heel and Succession you get this

[@pk_1]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DangerousParent]

🤣 Good one!

[@kingyouki5904]

Metaphorically and literally 😂

[@costylezz]

Triple H is Tom 😂

[@JamesZero]

Paul Heyman is a FANTASTIC narrator, dude. This guy nails every part of storytelling.

[@ladykatherinena3199]

I have no idea how Shane is sane. But I'm deeply impressed by his mental strength.

[@imaratspal]

Vince acts like he took the company away from his father in a buyout or something. Vince Sr. knew he didn't have much time left so he sold it for a lot less than it was worth to his son and Vince Jr. convinces himself and everyone else that he bought out his father. Vince Jr bought the most lucrative territory for $1 million total, divided into separate payments.

[@meciocio]

vince sr gave the company to vince jr as a loan so basically vince payed vince jr with the money his dad's company made

[@gman2015z]

Vince said himself he’s only gonna let ppl know what he allows them to know. Vince knows he got the deal of a lifetime but presents himself as a larger than life character at all times.

[@keandregreen5628]

We get it you heard Jim cornette

[@SuperKGun]

And junior also paid it from the profits that that business would generate so it was more of a favor on a son rather than a business deal honestly

[@imaratspal]

@@keandregreen5628 Vincels really do exist. I don't listen to Cornette, I actually look up facts.

[@timkruse9912]

Vince and Ric Flair truly are their characters in real life

[@kshinokevin]

they are keeping Kayfabe alive, PAL !

[@indihome2728-x8c]

paul heyman himself ?

[@DeepEnd10-y4g]

Hogan too😊

[@dcampbell_8]

“Stick me right here” translates to go to prison for the rest of your life for killing your dad 😂

[@thephpdeve]

Shane did the sensible thing by not taking the bait.

[@evancrum6811]

Paul is such a good story teller....just have him talk and tell stories

[@davidpeters2625]

Shane hates his dad and for good reason. That's why I always got the feeling that Vince always favored Stephanie over Shane, although Shane always took the business 10X more seriously....... and to find that Shane is pretty much the only normal McMahon after discovering he left in 2016, because of all of Vince's antics (supposedly), is actually not surprising

[@Derek70388]

I forget who it was, but they described the McMahon kids as Shane being more like Linda(kinder, more personable, spineless according to Vince) where as Stephanie is more like Vince(ruthless, no shame in exploiting others)

[@justinwarner1183]

It was Jim Ross who said that.

[@marlondavis9450]

Vince lives like a Sithlord from Star Wars

[@SwordsmanRyan]

Vince knows you have to betray in order to belong.

[@DinkusDorf]

Ikr. Like he actually lives by the Rule of Two😂

[@adam2.075]

Vince Palpatine 🤣

[@psalmerperena4120]

Darth Vince

[@alternative7586]

After watching this special, I have more sympathy for Shane. And controversially, I believe he could run AEW great.

[@rmnhn]

Better than Tony Khan, perhaps?

[@alifnovaldi5195]

If TK is willing to let go of his creative control and focus on the business part of AEW, it'll do wonders Sadly, it's not gonna happen

[@Jukeboxster]

that organization is almost beyond repair.

[@LadyTreez420]

If all of Fans of Shane's back him up. I Bet Shane will ) Would Run AEW then turn it into a off,off Brand of WWE Thing 😁😉

[@KalvinEllis]

And here I thought Vince actually respected his father.

[@PhillyLeotardo25]

The guy who beat and abandoned him 😂

[@KalvinEllis]

@@PhillyLeotardo25 You're thinking of his stepfather. He's the one who abused him.

[@pok3rfacReturns]

Vince’s father did sort of abandon him for like the first 12 years of his life

[@leelohaskin7941]

​@@KalvinEllis he still wasn't around much though

[@billymemonable]

It's Paul Heyman. The guys notorious for embellishing stories and outright lying even. Everything wrestling related is a soap opera to this guy. Chances are the most that was said between Vince and Shane was that Vince also didn't agree with his father but waited his turn to do things his way. Paul Heyman then did his thing when recounting the story.

[@markmccallum475]

Vince doesn't fuck around when it comes to booking Saturday morning slam

[@alex-iv5ep]

I’ve seen a lot In family businesses the dad will always not want to give his spot to his kids because he thinks he could run it better when reality he just wants everything his way instead of the kids taking it and doing it their way it’s natural for business models to always change but Vince completely chose the business over his family because he didn’t wanna give up his empire

[@robertjamesonmusic]

Definitely. Just a control freak

[@grovedwayne390]

Nothing wrong with that

[@alex-iv5ep]

@@grovedwayne390 the problem is when you don’t pass it up to someone else you lose it completely and look none of his kids or him are involved in running WWE at all just the son-in-law the emperor will crumble his own empire before he pass it to someone else can’t be on top forever

[@mohammedalikhan5177]

Succession writers should've had that "Knife story" as one of the scenes between Logan and Kendall and it would've become so iconic. 😅

[@AchillesAnew2]

Everyone is so deep in speculation meanwhile I’m just appreciating Haymans masterful storytelling

[@TheOfficalNorthernStudioWorks]

What was interesting and telling about this series is who they didn't interview for this which included pretty much all the Divas from the "Attitude Era" except for Trish Stratus and the only "pre-diva era" wrestler they interviewed was Wendy Richter.

[@CreativelyAnxious]

Vince is crazy😂😭

[@DangerousParent]

Yep! It's a shame all their money can't buy billionaires sanity.

[@NK-wy8wp]

It’s great

[@ruffin207]

In a perfect world Stephanie & Shane are Co - CEO’s, and Triple H is still head of creative!!!

[@muhammadhuzaifahmohamedsal2697]

Btw for those of you asking what was the ''decision'' Shane wanted to make? Shane wanted to buy an underground combat sport company that was going bankrupt called the UFC.....Yeap, Vince was so against Shane helping Titan Sports acquire the UFC and Vince would rather invest in nonsensical bodybuilding competitions and the XFL. Fast forward few decades later, Vince agrees to be under the same umbrella as the UFC. LMAO

[@kswheels]

Are we sure? Because they tell the UFC story separate from this monologue.

[@mr.ilikespam6081]

The fact Vince rejected UFC and one of the reasons was he couldn't make characters out of UFC fighters is very funny now in hindsight.

[@stobesy18]

Shane was like deal lets leak all the shit about you online to get rid of you

[@dane.4289]

If that story Paul is telling is true, it is down right SCARY.

[@DangerousParent]

Vince struts down the arena catwalk like he's hiding BBQ Freetos up his keyster🤭

[@lucristianx]

I just had an epiphany. Was Shane the leak internally regarding Vince’s recent crimes?

[@meciocio]

Shane, Stephanie, Nick Khan... they all had reasons to put the old man away(and for good reasons)

[@lucristianx]

@@meciocio sure but one I didn’t consider was Shane.

[@manuelpinzon7207]

@@meciocioactually and internally the family knew about Vince indiscretions , but the one that always got mad coz of that was Steph

[@Gulag00]

Wasn’t that Janel Grant?

[@lucristianx]

@@Gulag00 Vince was removed once prior to the lawsuit.

[@Styles.rp25]

Damn, someone clearly hurt/abused Vince. Buddy is damaged!

[@mcoeif]

His stepfather abused him

[@Styles.rp25]

@@mcoeif Thanks for the info. It’s unfortunate he was not able to resolve that trauma.

[@TheodoreBotman]

Abused by his stepfather, sexually abused by his stepbrother and he implied his own mother did the same. So the first 12 years of his life he was raised in hell and then his father randomly appears and gives him wrestling.

[@Maxtor-ve5nu]

@@TheodoreBotman and then he takes dumps on his employees chest for revenge

[@TheodoreBotman]

@@Maxtor-ve5nu An eye for an eye turns the whole world brown.

[@applepieclub5012]

Is this when Shane wanted to by a failing fighting organization, known as the UFC?

[@teddybaggu]

think it was about ecw

[@RAvila53]

​@teddybaggu no I've heard this before. It was UFC

[@andres_realxoxo]

you’re both right Shane wanted to buy out both

[@muhammadhuzaifahmohamedsal2697]

@@teddybaggu ECW was minor. But the UFC was what really ticked Vince off. Shane's relationship with his dad broke down due to the UFC. When the UFC gained popularity in the mid 2000s, starting with Brock Lesnar defecting to the UFC, that was when Shane decided to leave the WWE for good and start a business in China. Basically he didn't want to have anything to do with the family. Plus that whole storyline of him hating Stephanie when he returned? That was based on a shoot scenario. He really did have heat with Stephanie and Vince at the time.

[@solodolo4098]

​@@muhammadhuzaifahmohamedsal2697looking back its so sad the shoot was really nasty. At least Shane can be considered a decent good guy.

[@thecedex]

This was the only Episode that actually mattered in the Netflix documentary. The other episodes offered nothing new.

[@AustereEchadh]

He remembered all of that

[@7ctony]

Paul is the best storyteller bar none .

[@pookiefiend6133]

I can definitely imagine Mr. McMahon saying that. He literally took over his father’s company with an iron fist, invading other wrestling companies territories, knowing that used to be a big no-no stepping on other companies toes. I gotta hand it to him if he would’ve never did that his father‘s company likely would’ve tanked Vince knew what he had to do, and took initiative and built something so great, that no other company could imitate or come close to ratings wise and popularity, wise, WWE Will always be the word that you associate wrestling with just like the word mixed martial arts. The word UFC will always be the first thing that comes to peoples minds when thinking about MMA. 💯🗣️

[@Saddle_chop1728]

Paul hey man telling us the truth, just what I wanted to see

[@snakey319]

he's a liar to the bone in his RL though.

[@nodafy]

Yeah, Vince never did that. But Paul is such a good storyteller he makes it sound believable

[@FreddieJones-q6r]

What was the idea shane had? What brought up the conversation? Vince McMahon is the father who wanted a son who was more like him. Which is the reason behind Triple H climb to the top in addition to being experienced wrestler and married into the family.

[@zohaibsafi7572]

shane wanted to buy The ufc

[@tonybari478]

Vince a typical baby boomer. He was given a loan by his dad, to buy the WWf, but Vince wouldn’t give Shane a loan to buy the WWE.

[@robertjamesonmusic]

Definitely

[@jaysonb.6669]

Or a small loan to buy the nearly bankrupt UFC in 2001 smh

[@jaysonb.6669]

Like my aunt & uncle who bought their home property for 105k back in the mid 80's a few yrs outta college with virtually zero student debt. Today it's worth just under 3 million. Yeah, those by the bootstrap boomers lmao

[@krazyjim76]

If this is true , it says alot about how Vince was raised and how he raised his kids. Definitely wasn't the brady bunch growing up I'm sure.

[@kingartison]

Yknow my father somewhat talked like that when it came to cars and how he got people to con for him to get them

[@Geojr815]

Vince used the company’s money to buy out his father 😂

[@XxAizenxX187]

Dude is the real life version of Tywin Lannister I wouldn't say as clever and witty but as rutheless

[@pk_1]

Vince is the GREATEST VILLAIN OF ALL TIME🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DeadMasterMusic]

Not to mention Shane literally sacrificed his body for the company and Vince tells him he’s not man enough tis cowardly and wild

[@franthevan65]

I’m way too old to watch the wwe but I’ll never be too old for the stories

[@smarkslowplay3512]

What does age have to do with watching wrestling?

[@TPG25153]

No one tells a story better then paul heyman

[@ashdanger007]

shane left in 2008-09 because of vince's office nasty relationships with women.

[@GattoriSancho]

Vince is lucky I wasnt his son 😂

[@augustdavis4725]

I just realized what Vince did! You would like to say that he took it from his father, when really Vince Sr sold it to him in separate payments. But Vince Jr, in order to make his son tough, gave him this big speech, that wasn’t exactly true.

[@DanteLane-g8h]

Wrong,freemason's do this as they achieve the 33rd

[@ProfileRacing89]

Is this an AI post or something

[@augustdavis4725]

@@ProfileRacing89 what, you think I’m AI?

[@tonytonyaries7173]

Damn *kevin hart voice*

[@tonybari478]

Meanwhile Vince’s dad gave him a loan to buy the WWE from himself.

[@AndrewTheVikings]

Vince McMahon is the Roman Emperor and his company is his Roman Empire. Now he's gone, his Roman Empire is still alive.

[@mikelim4520]

I swear Paul Heyman could've been a mob boss for one of the rival families

[@randomshit1209]

Shane birth right was given to triple h

[@Barbara891207]

Paul Heyman is the best

[@dollarbill6342]

So paul is telling us vince was willing to murk his dad 😂

[@LTAISports]

I havent watched this yet, is it good?

[@QuesadillaJay]

Yes. I wanted more episodes

[@HessaBlessa]

I think it’s when Shane wanted to buy the UFC

[@FantomGoat]

Curious of what stopped Shane from selling a portion (or all) of his WWE shares to buy UFC since he couldn't convince Vince to buy it as part of Titan Sports.

[@roshanali4307]

Goosebumps 😮

[@TempeSoldier123]

Vince is a legit sociopath.

[@312money77]

What I learned from the doc 1st episode is nobody can top hulk hogan

[@peterruff5810]

The right gay guy for the job.

[@Kaiden-f3i]

Paul Heyman is good ass storyteller

[@kunalm15]

Shane wanted to buy UFC when it would’ve costed McMahon’s peanuts. Vince screwed Vince by going hard on XFL.

[@Bigvirgoenergy]

Paul is a great storyteller but how does he remember evey line like its a movie 😂

[@donatobytyqi4871]

The greatest manger in WWE of all time, Mr. Paul Heyman 🥹❤️🥹❤️

[@tjjordan4207]

This story just took a very Sith turn.

[@wmassey683]

This is a WWE documentary I don’t believe that story for a second

[@mathew3267]

It would be nice to know what the idea was.

[@unclefred3128]

Let's all just be happy that Heyman decided to get into the rasslin' business. With his verbal skills he probably could've started a successful death cult

[@jaredgalarza]

Sounds like Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones.

[@LinkoLankao]

Wtf is Netflex thinking about posting this ? "oh wow vince is such a bad ass" LMAO

[@voke4553]

Are you retarded?

[@princevegeta2715]

Paul Heyman should play penguin

[@LTFCSmith]

No other recording of this other than word of mouth, that he can recall verbatim over a decade later?…I call bullshit Heyman 😂

[@josematias7021]

I watch it like 3 times and this is my favorite part because as hard as vince was all he wanted was shame doing the same thing he did to his father buy or take the company off his hands and take that vision he had for wwe an make it real like vince did she could have been the boss, its a shame actually😢

[@CallumMcginty-w6v]

Stephanie McMahon is the best out of all of the McMahon's

Wonder if it's about launching ECW as a web show

[@WallyITGT206]

You know everyone gives Vince hate because everybody has wanted him out for years and they finally did it. WWE is doing so much better without him but we have to understand that due to how he was raised by his parents it could be some of the reasons he said stuff like this to others. This could also be the answer to why he was weird sometimes to backstage. My point is he did not grow up like any normal child because it seems his parents were't ideal especially his father according to this.

[@Mikeybfromthe613]

WelllGooood Daaaaamn 😮

[@TheHerrMan]

I Believe something of that magnitude had to happen. Otherwise what type of heir outright leaves the family business and in the heyday

[@wingt4thewin625]

Shane isn't Vince. Vince is a genius, but a Maniac.

[@BlahKDubstep]

Sounds about right

[@mhk-f7x]

But why did he tell him to stick it on the right side🤔😂.

[@MoeFoeJo]

Holy fuck! Vince was freaking crazy

[@Walt_Xander94]

No freakin' wonder Shane didn't stick around in WWE. Not worth waiting for Vince to step down when that wouldnt happen, and his case right now puts a bad look on the McMahon name. Seriously, if Shane wanted to run WWE now, under TKO, they wouldn't want that kind of look. There's the speculation that Shane might go to AEW. I hope he does, just cant use his last name any time soon. It would be goofy to just be referred to as Shane, but unlike Cody, it HAS to happen.

[@gabrielgilbert9692]

Yall ain’t gonna tell me Vince didn’t kill some wrestlers out of pettiness

[@apocratos0174]

Vinnie Mac is one of the greatest men alive today! We should be proud for having him in your lives

[@solidicone]

Yeah... seems about like something Vince would say.

[@dantecarroll2435]

Vince is insane

[@feedthesnake3394]

... so that's when shane murdered vince.

[@quakethedoombringer]

Vince thinks he is a Sith Lord or something

[@Fuxkutube]

sure paul ...... sure ....

[@Viper-g6g]

Shane got rid of him. That’s why the allegations came out. And now WWE is experiencing a boom like the 90s.

[@BrayGoesTV]

Real talk, Some fathers really shouldn't try their luck on that lol, I know some dudes that would give up prime years of their lives just for opportunity.

[@brixtonmystery]

I mean…as Shakespeareanly sick as it sounds, Vince was right. Those were his options. Kill him or buy him out.

[@Kushal_kumara_rao]

Bring smack down to Amazon prime

[@ercm2393]

So in other words…he’s insane.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

I would be surprised that Vince is so depraved enough to tempt his own son into committing something of an assisted suicide just for a goddamn business decision, but unfortunately I am not so surprised at how evil he is. What I am surprised at is that Vince agreed to all this and goes full Surprised Pikachu when it turns out his colleagues didn't actually hold back for once.

[@kcbrown8742]

This is a performance from. Paul haymen

[@caymanhilldesigns453]

Respect!