"Paul in Athens" Really?

Taking a closer look at those famous "missions to the Gentiles".
Did the wandering apostle of the new revelation really make a flying visit to the home of Greek rationalism and tell the philosophers where they were going wrong? Or is Paul's Athenian interlude just another fabrication?

[@philalexander2268]

I'm just here to hear him say "astounding rubbish".. can't get enough of that phrase !

[@freedapeeple4049]

His accent fits perfectly with the narrative

[@pbohearn]

I always give a little giggle of delight at the end with his signature sign off

[@lhughes597]

I'm so glad that the Catholic Church wrote This Book

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Many parts of the book of acts seem like blatant forgeries, yet when Paul is brought on trial , it seems as though no one knows anything about the person of Jesus on earth , which makes me wonder if Luke was using older, celestial Jesus sources which he bastardized.

[@BagzAndPresident]

uncleanunicorn yes early acts which takes place merely 40 days after the crucifixion of jesus which gathered over 40,000 people in 3 months and fought with the jewish teachers and rulers, somehow these same teachers 40 days later have no clue who Jesus is

[@timq6224]

@Terncote SPLITTERS!!!

[@Dan_C604]

Awesome, well done, great job. I never get tired of your videos!

[@robertlussier2944]

I remember the disillusionment I felt when I asked, during confirmation instruction, how Paul was able to travel all over, when the fastest mode at the time was by camel? And was answered, it wasn't up to us to question scripture. I started disbelieving at that point.

[@timq6224]

when an intelligent mind asks a question of the ignorant faithful, their only answer is "you must take it on faith." Yet, god himself, says he is not the author of confusion. So when reality conflicts with what is said in the bible, god is merely trying to tell us that the bible is poppycock.

[@angelastarling3052]

I am one of those "ignorant faithfuls" as you label those of us strongly believe in God and his Word. However, I strongly make the following point. My faith is NOT based on unsubstantiated faith without verifiable evidence. I do not believe in myths and fables. Matter-of-fact, I will begin teaching a bible class on apologetics in September. But...I do want to acknowledge that many young people have lost their faith in the truthfulness of God's word and in God himself because many religious teachers used the excuse "it's what the scriptures or the bible says" and never researched the answer to the child's question. The teacher didn't know what or how to answer the question. Shame on any teacher who doesn't study the evidence and prepares himself/herself to answer any and all questions a student ask. Personally, I'm looking forward to any and all questions, difficult and easy, any of my 4th-8th graders ask me. I want them prepared and confident to defend God

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@angelastarling3052 and your evidence is …?

[@MarliBeres]

by foot.....

[@Achill101]

Paul travelled slower than we do today, but if you have weeks and months for your travel, ships and your feet will bring you far.

[@edgarsnake2857]

Thank you Ken...for the sanity.

[@steveclark5357]

All gods are UNKNOWN because they exist only in our minds, I like how michaelangelo slipped that into the painting of god creating adam on the ceiling , placing god into a bubble that is plainly a representation on the mind, as if to say "it is all in your mind" !

[@sigmata0]

I don't think ancient people were dumb. I think they did the best with what they knew, attempting to do multiple tasks in a complex, chaotic world. So, although it's easy to label a deity as only in our mind, I think it's sometimes used more specifically as a metaphor for what we would label the unconscious or subconscious. Creating rituals for that internal discussion is similar to hypnotic inductions, and can have a similar effects. These are times before there was any understanding of living beings, or how to treat the wide range of maladies humans have to endure. So, making the most of our internal resources to solve medical issues was profoundly important. How, without a modern understanding of the world, do you describe things in a way that that ordinary people can action, and use to help themselves? Similarly, trying to enforce a social organization, where "might is right" is easy to understand but disadvantageous in larger groups. So, by inventing the ultimate might, who happens to be the ultimate right and enforcer of justice (even after you die), even the most powerful people within a group could be convinced to follow social laws.

[@steveclark5357]

that sounds like something a priest would say, hundreds of words and nothing said, even your username has priestly connotations, I do not trust priests

[@sigmata0]

So, you don't understand english? I said - a reference to a god can be a metaphor for personal unconscious. I god can be a imaginative figure to inspire conformity towards socially beneficial behavior. I did *not* say there is anything like a real deity, nor that deities exist external to a human mind. Short enough for you? PS: As a rule of thumb don't let your assumptions get ahead your knowledge. My user name - is Sigma (the Greek letter) Tao (with o replaced with 0), Tao being - "the way". It is a reference to a childhood creation, which spanned all the Greek letters of their alphabet, and was personal science fiction I wrote. There is nothing religious about it.

[@steveclark5357]

I understand English enough to hear someone trying to sell religon

[@steveclark5357]

and for someone that claims to understand English so very well do you realize you called yourself GOD

[@davidwilson3465]

Dear Lord. How many have been brainwashed over the centuries of time? If people only knew what they have put their faith in; legends, mythical stories and freakin fairy tales. Thank you Ken for opening our eyes a little more.

[@GrouchyMarx]

@A D. I hear you loud and clear! I was about 20 as well when I woke up. Raised very religious, religious schools, studying bible and dogma back then. However, please don't see it as a waste. If you have detailed knowledge of those things it gives you experience, strength and some authority when arguing with the delusionals. It's my tactic where I use the bible ITSELF to convince them they are wrong. There's plenty ugliness, torture, vile, pedophilia, incest, child-murder and mass murder by this non-existent god in both OT & NT of theirs to turn many good-hearted people away from it. I admit I'm very aggressive about it, but it has yielded good results. My girlfriend too, and her sister-in-law, went through the "submission" and "subservient" lectures before Christian marriages take place. They were disgusted by it. So was I! You're not alone. I could go on & on, but it would be way too long for a comment room here. Consider books by Annie Lauri Gaylor, "Woe to the Women: The Bible Tells Me So" and "Women Without Superstition: No Gods - No Masters". And consider joining FFRF.org. Also, check out vids at "Caesar's Messiah" YT channel for more recent content & discoveries about bible stuff, similar to JesusNeverExistd. Regards.

[@Steelersbaby]

@@GrouchyMarx I'm currently dealing with a brainwashed daughter-in-law that's incredibly blind to the devotion to something she have little knowledge of. Wish I had more help how to deconstruct her passion for her loyalties.

[@GrouchyMarx]

@@Steelersbaby Most of these folks will never consider anything you present unless it comes from the bible. Anything scientific or reasonable will be met with hostility. (Unless they have a somewhat open mind.) To see an example of this watch "Inherit the Wind" (1960), a drama based on the 'Scopes Monkey Trial' of 1925, where the lawyer for the defense (Spencer Tracy) is forced to use the bible itself as evidence since the court denied any scientist or science as evidence, and he did it quite well! This may not help much, but using that book to show all it's horror, ugliness, hypocrisy and tales of holy incest is something they cannot deny, and does more to get them thinking than any science documentary ever will. One must deconstruct the source of the BS to start healing and rebuilding a new and real reality for them, IMHO. ✌️😎

[@Steelersbaby]

@@GrouchyMarx I didn't know if u would hit me back but I'm thankful that u did and I will find that movie by hook or by crook and watch it. Your message was on point too bcoz she's completely oblivious to all the things that has been put n2 the efforts to perpetuate the Bible, religion and a belief system. She has no idea what she's missing out on in life by staying so dogmatic to shit she has largely no idea about. To say she's brainwashed is a understatement. She's completely cult bait. If someone came along with the right story claiming a God this and a God that, she'd drink the coolaid. Jim Jones bait all over again. Its heartbreaking coz I know its a cultural thing with her being Marshallese. Its hard to break cultural ways and norms but I broke mine. Being African American and distancing myself from religious affiliations is like denouncing your identity but I did and is much better off without any of that garbage.

[@lhughes597]

Well done sir I'm glad I am a sun worshipper 2019

[@QuestionThingsUseLogic]

And sadly sun worship is what ousted the black Hebrews from their land and brought on all those curses in Deuteronomy 28 😥. #TorahFirst

[@exilfromsanity]

Ken; Thanks for this, one of your best, and you've set a very high standard.

[@georgesmith8019]

For BS? Yes. read my comments above.

[@exilfromsanity]

So if you know so much how about answering a couple of the questions posed by Ken? 1 - How does the writer of Acts (Whoever that was) know any of the material that he reports in this Athenian episode? Acts and Thessalonians both say Paul was alone in Athens, bible verses noted @ 2:15 in the video. 2 - How does the writer know what the Athenian philosophers said to each other? Bible verse noted at 2:26 in the video. If there's any "BS" going on it seems to be about 2,000 years old.

[@Iamjamessmith1]

Dr. Humphreys, Amazing, insightful, and better than any other Dr of Theology I've ever heard. May the facts be made known and the mighty brought down by simply lifting up the masses their preaching research has, without known intent, manipulated

[@xolakomsana8865]

religion and superstition is the same thing.

[@noelnewlon]

I love the flying pigs, a better image of what an angel looks like.

[@StephEWaterstram]

There's probably many other names applied to the events taking place in this Book of deception.

[@TruthSurge]

good vid!

[@DBCisco]

"Paul" (as well as even the "seven accepted letters" and Luke & Acts) is a late second century invention.

[@Doriesep6622]

Do you think Marcion wrote Pauline books?

[@timq6224]

I would disagree. Paul, and his pseudo-judaism, is what the authors of those early pauline writings used to incite the rebellion of 64AD. The concoction continued in order to fill in the gaps and mistakes (especially the pauline letters) When people demanded to "see" this messiah, the gospels were concocted. Paul himself was most assuredly a fictitious character or an amalgamation of many.

[@TBD3.0]

This reminds me of Plato's work "Timaeus" where Solon gives his speech in the middle of the market. The Republic by Plato preceded Timaeus.

[@maxdoubt5219]

Awesome! Go Ken!

[@dneder2]

Have you read the book, 'we the skythians'? It would shed a spotlight on the geographical details. Hint: our current location for many things are not the original location.

[@geraldbennett8703]

Some of the material seen only to contain macro information.

[@harveywabbit9541]

Paul = Pollux = Apollo the Gemini twin. Paul's ship carried the Gemini standard. Paul, the messenger, is also Mercury/Hermes

[@artsvlogs9789]

keep it up, ken.

[@kevincrady2831]

@6:33 onward: could this be the first example of the "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist!" line? XD

[@d.m.8848]

I see that in 2019 many people refer to the "Roman Agora in Athens". I suspect that this is a misnomer. Was there ever such a thing? I suspect that the Romans called it something different.

[@timq6224]

the bible calls it that, so that is what they regurgitate. The video itself explains what was there and what it was called by the Romans. The term "agora" is merely an emotional appeal to classic philosophers, or possibly just a detail that was part of the plagiarism of the trial of socrates.

[@mututhlaw]

Its about damn time. Was wondering when you would upload new stuff. im a " Christian" who asks a lot of question but doesnt take it seriously anymore .i love your second opinion on things i find fictious in regard to how i believe. Good work

[@georgeakridopoulos3299]

Very well done.

[@nikdelta399]

Excellent

[@hawaiisidecar]

Brilliant!

[@faithhill312]

I Can't help but notice that this man left out some important scripture. in the verse acts 17:15 the actual reference fully says: "So those who CONDUCTED him to Athens; receiving a command for Silas and Timothy to come to him with all speed, they departed." Now you probably see that as the people in the boat departed to go back to Silas and Timothy, but the departing is from Paul with his entourage ( because he would have had to of had someone with him ) and those in the boat. The author of the book of Acts, Luke, would of been in the boat with Paul bringing him to places. Paul would then have his entourage there to back up what he was saying to Luke. He also says in this video that paul is the author of Acts but in reality, the man who wrote acts is named Luke. So I find that this is not a reliable source of knowledge because he fails to find out information about the bible. instead he finds information that better suits his argument and only uses the bible when it can help him. So if you people watch and believe this, then it is not true fact what he is saying in accordance to the bible.

[@rodlurks66]

Timestamp for Ken claiming that Paul wrote acts? he has cited several times that Luke is claimed to written Acts.

[@faithhill312]

3:05 , he clearing says: Paul, or rather the author of acts. Which is false.

[@rodlurks66]

This is a misunderstanding (and lack of clarity on JNE's part) when he says Paul, OR RATHER the author of acts he means 2 different people. If he had said "...Paul, or rather the author of acts, so-called Luke..." as he has said before there would not have been this misunderstanding. I know the traditional authors of the biblical books, there is no way that Ken doesn't know them.

[@faithhill312]

Sorry i still don't see it that way, they way he says it to me shows he is not clear in how he speaks. I see him just continue. where , if he had mentioned the author in a previous time stamp of the video, would of made sense. But he has not mentioned it except by the author. So i just question his ability to communicate and keep his knowledge consistent.

[@BagzAndPresident]

Xavier Cadieux THE AUTHOR OF ACTS NEVER LISTS HIS SOURCES

[@DBCisco]

Paul never existed.

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

Acts is ENTIRELY fiction. The true history of Christianity (the Chrestians worshiping Serapis slowly and gradually converted to Paulism over the 50-60 years following the destruction of Jerusalem) was just too embarrassing. They needed a nice story like a group of apostles receiving instruction straight from God and this hero Paul going around showing people the truth; as well as a lie about the origin of the name Christians. All it shows us is the imagination of late 1st century/early 2nd century christians.

[@sigmata0]

Philo, do you have any detailed resources you can suggest for the more accurate history? Thanks in advance :-)

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

sigmata0 It's only my speculation based on the Tacitus reference (falsified Neronian persecution), the Pliny Letter, and the Emperor Adrian Letter ("The worshipers of Serapis are called Christians, and those who are devoted to the god Serapis call themselves Bishops of Christ. There is not a high priest among the Jews, a Samaritan, or a priest of Chrestus who is not a liar, astrologer, soothsayer, or quack.") There is a lot of speculation about the true origins of Christianity if (as mythicists believe) it did not start with an itinerant, crucified messiah-figure. My personal belief is that it is syncretism between various mystery cults and Philo of Alexandria's thinking [merging Platonic ideas with Judaism]. Others suggest the gospels are wholly astrological allegory (i.e. Pilate was originally Pilatus the spear in the sky, and only later historicized and associated with Pontius Pilate; which is why 'Jesus' was awkwardly placed in history where he was). My personal favorite to read (if you haven't already) is Arthur Drews "The Witnesses to the Historicity of Jesus"; available here (archive.org/details/witnessestohisto00drewiala) All we are left with is speculation (until further game-changing archaelogical discovery) because, as Drews notes: "How much has survived of the attacks on Christianity by its opponents? Has not the Church from the very first been careful to suppress or destroy anything that might endanger its interests? Did it not publicly burn the anti-christian writings of Porphyry? Was not the entire great library of Alexandria (it took 1400 years for Christendom to assemble a comparable library) sacrificed to the zeal of fanatical Christians in 391, and were not the greatest intellectual treasures of antiquity lost with it? Who can say what powerful truths against Christianity perished with it? Even the work of Celsus, the one attack on Christianity we have some parts of, is known to us only through Origen’s reply to it. What portions not quoted frightened Christians so much as to suppress it? " Similarly, from Carrier (Why we have reason to doubt) "A clue to this strange silence [of extra-biblical references to Christianity/Christians/Jesus] lies in the treatment of the few critical writings about Christians we do know about: every single one of them was destroyed. The only reason we know anything about them is that in each case Christian authors either refer to them or wrote a rebuttal (and later Christians liked those rebuttals so well that they kept them). But these critiques cannot possibly have been the only ones written, and are unlikely to have been the earliest ones written. And in any event, they were not preserved; they were replaced instead with Christian propaganda. These [critiques referenced] are just the ones we know about. Which would be a fraction of what there was. All of it was tossed out or destroyed. Several texts that were preserved have sections removed. Sections whose disappearance seems convenient for Christians. Now, a lot of ancient literature, indeed arguably most, has missing material. This is typically a result of carelessness and accident, multiplied by time. But in some cases the precision and location of what was lost is a bit more peculiar than chance accident would suggest. Instead, we get to read only what medieval Christians wanted us to read. For example, the Christian scholar Hippolytus in the early third century wrote his Refutation of All Heresies in ten volumes. At the end of the first of them he says he will next explain the secret doctrines of the several mystery religions (which would have included the Passion Narratives of the different savior gods, including miraculous births, deaths and resurrections, and their sacred meals and baptisms). But the second and third volumes are missing. The text skips directly to volume 4, which begins his discourse on astrology. This does not look like an accident. Some Christian or Christians decided to destroy those two volumes-for some reason fearing their contents. The resulting loss in our knowledge of the mystery religions is beyond considerable. "

[@philojudaeusofalexandria9556]

***** It fascinates me because around 2B humans still believe this bullshit. And for about 1500 years it wasn't even questioned (of course, getting burned at the stake if you question it was probably part of it). People say it's amazing how Germany, an advanced and modern society, was convinced to support Hitler but to me it's far more amazing how a colossal fraud like Christianity survived for 1900+ years. It says so much about human psychology and the inability for people to think sensibly. Perhaps even more amazing is that after scholars wrote dozens of books destroying Christianity in the 19th and early 20th century, Christians still exist! "Why do so many remain believers despite the scholarly discovery in our time [1800’s] proving that nearly all the scriptures are lies and forgeries? Most of such people never doubt and never inquire. Changes of opinion are the result of causes that seldom affect the intellectually lazy. With them it is not a question of mental honesty, but a case of inactivity of mind, which results in a deep slumber, that only ignorance induces. So long as persons are contented to "shut their eyes and open their mouths," or while they are too idle to use their faculties in thinking for themselves, they will probably remain Christians... Furthermore it is impossible to argue profitably with people who do not use their mental faculties, and hence the greatest delusions that take possession of the human mind often remain unchecked and irremovable. On the other hand, when the intellect is brought into play, the result is the growth of new ideas. The attempts made by any of the clergy to explain away the objectionable features of certain doctrines are prompted only by their desire to retain their position in a church, which is their only means of obtaining the necessaries of life." Charles Watts

[@sigmata0]

Thank you :-)

[@sigmata0]

Thank you :-)

[@RoseSharon7777]

Why would there be any synagogues outside Israel before 70 ad? The northern tribes were scattered and lost their identity among the gentiles 700 years before. And there weren't very many judahites left after Titus was done there. It would have taken decades before the few remaining from Judah would have built one synagogue much less one in Athens or anywhere else.

[@19coyote80]

Has Ken Humphries got any educational credentials from any university?

[@duanedahljr1669]

Paul was not out to start a new religion...he was on a rescue mission to find the Pagan Israelites living in the nations...he was not intentionally look for Jews

[@davydeuce]

Don't forget also that the gospel was to go out only for 40 years. And then the end would come: end of the temple age: AD66-70. Paul and the apostles, their mission, was to gather in the elect of the 12 tribes of Israel, who were scattered about in the known world at the time. But all this is only if you believe that the bible is 100% accurate; the prophecies and promises. The Israel Only perspective is the only point of view that makes any sense out of the bible. The bible was only written for the 12 tribes of Israel. Jesus only came to redeem Israel. The whole book has nothing to do with any other nation but ISRAEL: the 12 tribes who if we believe Romans 11, Matthew 24 and Revelation---among other verses---Jesus' second coming was in AD70. So basically from an IO perspective the bible is an open and shut case. Thoughts?

[@BagzAndPresident]

Davy Deuce arent we all jews since we come from adam

[@Doriesep6622]

What was Matthew Mark and Luke plagiarized from?

[@rtel123]

scholars know... THE OLD TESTAMENT!

[@fairwarning4267]

Get a red letter bible and read all the recorded words Jesus spoke. I find every single thing he spoke to be true. His absolute laser detail pinpoint accuracy from 2,000 years ago about the world today is astonishing. Thank God, I believe in Jesus because I would be walking in the dark if Jesus didn't explain all things to us.

[@BagzAndPresident]

American Patriot except jesus said the world would end during the lifetime of his apostles so he could not have predicted 2000 years later lmao

[@fairwarning4267]

@@BagzAndPresident You need to understand Jesus never said that and for you to try to read the bible it is like making sentences out alphabet soup on LSD. You are blinded from all things of the Kingdom of Heaven for rejecting Jesus. You need to read Jesus's words over and over because at some point it may click an than you will believe, The liberal faction is the political faction of the coming anti-chirst. Liberal satanism is far deadlier than this virus because it costs people their souls. The republicans like the church are lost in the wilderness and in time they will be forced to pledge allegiance to the Beast and be branded by Satan's mark of ownership or be killed.

[@BagzAndPresident]

@@fairwarning4267 YES HE DID! He said it 4 times! Paul also said they were living in the end times. Revelations said the world ending was SOON

[@herskie45]

Can anyone please point me out the origin or our existence? How everything began. Don’t give a big bang theory answer. It’s stupid.

[@jackhughesbooks]

Another fantastic analysis Ken.

[@simban00]

No Greco/Roman writer ever documented this supposed Paul.

[@simban00]

@ZX7R Melado Thats church history. Facts are this fictitious figure is not documented by any credible writer.

[@simban00]

@The NIFB Jesus just document the proof not your ignorant sarcasm. Its that simple.

[@Achill101]

The writer of Acts was Greco/Roman.

[@johnraymond1861]

Was Paul there? Don't know? How Luke wrote this part? Simple answer Paul told Luke he was there!

[@BagzAndPresident]

john raymond Luke (not his name) NEVER LISTED HIS SOURCES IDIOT

[@johnraymond1861]

Don't call people idiots is Paul or Luke their real names no they are not English but Greek and Hebrew languages But Luke and Paul names even one knows who talking about Luke's? Book of acts reveals Alot about of FALSE testimonies and questionable apostleship If you watch you know what I was talking about

[@timq6224]

@@johnraymond1861 -- and everyone knows who Harry Potter is -- do you get it now?

[@johnraymond1861]

No Harry potter is fiction Paul's testimony may be false but he was a real man!

[@williamwilson6499]

If you haven't visited Athens, you should go.

[@georgesmith8019]

Were do you get your info?

[@JesusNeverExistd]

George. Check out the companion webpage www.jesusneverexisted.com/paul-athens. Sources noted at the foot of the page .

[@georgesmith8019]

Thanks but the link is a 404 page.

[@KaiHenningsen]

Try www.jesusneverexisted.com/paul-athens.html .

[@georgesmith8019]

I would like to know how many copies of this do we have? AND MOST IMPORTANT ..WHEN were these copies found? Bart Ehrman tahght me to ask these IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. - Strabo (63 BC - 24 AD) Geography - IX.1

[@georgesmith8019]

Sorry taught.

[@rickyspanish2857]

i would personally rather worship Zeus.He seems cooler.water walking doesn't peak my interest

[@Itsatz0]

Zeus has hemorrhoids.

[@taucetii3412]

+itsatz Thunderbolts burn

[@Doriesep6622]

pique

[@sidepot]

Ricky Spanish Zeus is very cool! And it’s pique not peak.

[@MyWictor]

1 part of this video is also a fabrication. roman empire never existed. which roman kingdom he go too..?

[@MarliBeres]

if you are really interested in propagating the truth then read: Paul and Stephen by Xavier, Francisco Candido first....

[@Bellarium]

Acts 18: "Then Paul left Athens and went to Corinth. There he became acquainted with a Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently arrived from Italy with his wife, Priscilla. They had left Italy when Claudius Caesar deported all Jews from Rome." One such edict was passed by emperor Claudius in 52, which is likely (or close to) the date of these events.

[@BagzAndPresident]

Bellarium an event which “Luke” stole from Josephous works

[@Bellarium]

@@BagzAndPresidentAh, I see. Luke had writer's block and had to steal from someone else. Oh, now I see it's "Luke", very probably the same Christian that changed Josephus where it matters.

[@jasonfrederick1258]

I have read the bible. I have read many scholarly works. The bible is not what many accuse it of. Anyone who is sincere and a keen observer of life will see the bible seeks to make no pretentious claims....it is a dismal apology for Judaism as many say it is....if the biblical authors can be accused of anything unsettling is Sincerely Idealistic at best and woefully innocent at worst.

[@woff1959]

"No church founded in Athens. There was Hierotheos the Thesmothete and Dionysos, founded the church after St Paul's teaching in 53 BC. That's an error. How do we know what the philosophers said? Well, the above two were members of the Areopagos. As for 'Agora', it just means market place and could be right where the other temples were. Luke did not write a travelogue of Athens, (however he got his info) but of Paul. Jewish synagogues are widely known in the 1st C throughout the Roman empire. It could have been in a house. Paul would go there. Natural. You can find references to a temple to the Unknown God in Athens in Apollodorus, Philostratus and Pausanians. After that, I fear the maker of the video gets lost in imaginations. But do answer my points, will you?

[@TheRobdarling]

Christopher Szabo my question to you is... We're you there? Didn't think so. None of it is real. Not. One. Iota.

[@johnraymond1861]

Rob you say that any one even the person who made the video I can tell this unless Jews were hated in a city they were never rarely seen in public

[@sidepot]

Christopher Szabo How did Paul teach there in 53 BC? Seems to me you have made a major error. Much like the Bible in which you believe.

[@sidepot]

Christopher Szabo Don’t you think it’s more likely that the New Testament writers got lost in their imaginations?

[@davidhoffman6980]

How debates work in the Bible: a man walks into a place of worship to talk about ideas counter to what the believers there think. The much "feared" naysayers challenge him by saying some version of 'what could this idiot have to say?' Our hero then goes on a 20 minute rant completely uninterrupted by the hostile interlocutors. Afterwards half the audience is blown away by Sunday school basics with no evidence to back it up, and completely abandon their worldviews that they grew up with that tie their families and communities together and become his followers. The other half sneer and and make threats and retire in shame to plot his demise, but have no comebacks at all. All skeptics are either tongue tied, or we get an editorial insert that alerts the audience that they are evil and that's why they are rejecting the truth! How these things work in real life: A foreigner with some foreign or unorthodox ideas walks into a church, temple, tabernacle, mosque, etc. As soon as everyone in there finds out he's not one of them and wants to proselytize his ideas over theirs, they ask him to leave. So he goes to some forum where he can at least talk and when he debates he's constantly interrupted. He goes in with confidence that he's going to blow everyone's minds but most of the people are unimpressed and have a lot of questions that he didn't consider beforehand. He goes away thinking he won while his interlocutors leave thinking they won. He eventually raises his children to believe as he does and his followers eventually learn that raising believers works better than trying to convert adults.

[@stuieofmaplestreet2691]

Hmmm...Really??

[@herskie45]

I’d rather believe in God and found out none than do not believe in God and found out there is when I die..

[@gaycatlover3030]

How do you know the Christian god is the right one, though? With that argument, then you should believe in all gods, from all religions.

[@user-uh3gn6sg6y]

exactly gay cat lover well said, thats exactly what you say , its right, althought someone of christianity said that jesus father is the only god

[@eya-xh9qo]

is not Romen A Gustus it is ''6 a gjasht,us'' albanian means ''is sixth 6'' paul is alb name too Saul is Alb name too

[@daveray5655]

Greek Hellenists still exist, if your Greek you can still save you're heritage from the Christians.

[@camaradael2424]

It's either Saul was hallucinating like Muhammad or Saul made up stories filled with treacherous lies like Muhammad. 🤣

[@SixMillionDollarGasBill]

"Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale of its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine, along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome... ...Without their religion, the Jewish race, too, would soon have fallen apart and disappeared, as we have shown in many other parts of this book. What saved them was the zeal and dedication of Saul of Tarsus (the Christians’ St. Paul) in spreading a poisonous new creed among the Gentiles, a creed originating amongst a small Jewish sect (the Essenes) and not attracting any particular attention, especially not the mainstream of the Jews. In fact, Saul, recognizing its suicidal nature, at first persecuted this sect, since he did not want the Jews to become infected with it. Then he got the brilliant idea of feeding it to the Romans . . . This was the most fatal and significant turning point in the history of the White Race and of mankind as a whole. www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=9298

[@geraldbennett8703]

Maybe Athens was a melting pot then, that might be the deduction. maybe the writer didn't want to Glorified the philosophers names,with their empty views,just saying, thinking Christian are not surprised to think otherwise might be absolute rubbish.

[@mrsbrownandhercat]

@ Gerald - yes but both Paul and Luke were Turkish, if you accept biblical history. There were no direct flights to Athens and camels took ages. Some of the distances are enormous and could never have been done in those days, not to mention the language difficulties (no Google Translate, although presumably god could have created it to make things easier).

[@billykotsos4642]

Stoics superstitious? very funny.

[@georgesmith8019]

I don't see anything in Bart Erhman's 23 books about this. Why are you NOT debating him? You are NOT even close!

[@georgesmith8019]

I would like to know how many copies of this do we have? AND MOST IMPORTANT ..WHEN were these copies found? Bart Ehrman and Bruce Metzger taught me to ask these IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. - Strabo (63 BC - 24 AD) Geography - IX.1 P.S. You have some really dumb lemmies following you.

[@joehellno9097]

Someday an Erhman debate may happen. Meantime, If you want a taste of Humphreys in debate, check out the one with Gary Habermas, Mr. Resurrection, available on KZbin. Very insightful and entertaining as well. There are a couple of radio debates on KZbin as well. Ken is always clear headed, cheerful, and focused, even against THE resurrection heavyweight Habermas. He cuts through the apologetic scholarly smoke screens to get at the truth of the matter of what we do and DON’T actually know, exposing pious posing as the astoundin’ rubbish it actually is.

[@richardsorel201]

Paul never died.... he's with Enoch and Tupac and Athens as we speak! Lots of Patron!!

[@jiotis81]

This is soooooo TRUE 👍

[@user-uh3gn6sg6y]

oh god, no way, paul in athens, no, no i really soooo dont fucking think so!!! way arounds

[@WinStunSmith]

Boffo!

[@samuelj8592]

It is all Greek to me! The very first alleged copy of the Old Testament was allegedly traslated from Greek dating back to Ptolmy III. If it was in Hebrew then why did the church not adopt the Hebrew laguage and if Jesus was Jewish it would have be pious for the church to talk in Hebrew from the begining. But he never spoke Hebrew, it was Aramaic which later developed into Arabic. (and Pope Frances insisted on that lately). Hebrew did not exist then, see the Dead Sea Scrolls in Qumran dating as earely as the 1st century, yet it not Hebrew. He was not Jewish but more alined to Abrahamic religion see John 8:58. Refering to Abraham curiously, not Moses nor Noah. The Talmodic scripts deny him being Jewish. The new Testament was all in Greek and they conflated the man with the myth in an era that believed in human gods. I believe every thing you say Ken, but I think you should consider looking into the Eastern side of the story. You never know may be the historisity of the man did exist.

[@GARYWERSLEY]

.. the Hebrew language was almost a dead language, at about 400BC, according to Nehemiah 13:23. 'In those days saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab: And their children spoke half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews language, but according to the language of each people.' .. Nehemiah wrote about 400BC, so it is probable few Jews spoke or understood Hebrew at the supposed time of Jesus, and that even Paul of Tarsus did not speak or understand Hebrew...

[@samuelj8592]

+gary wersley ".. the Hebrew language was almost a dead language, at about 400BC..." You are insinuating that it was alive before that time despite the lack of any evidence to that effect. Why not look at Deuteronomy 26:5 talking about Abraham "A wandering Aramean was my father" it is a concession from the OT that Abraham was Aramean, therefore, spoke Aramaic. Aramean is the translation and the actual word in the Hebrew bible (Arami). Saying Hebrew is an ancient language is a myth. Repeating it does not make it true. The Hebrew Alphabet that we know it today is as recent as 9th century AD, probably developed as a code for their secret writings. Even Maimonides in the 12th Century despite the fact that he used the Hebrew Alphabet but the language was literal Arabic, which supports the theory that he wrote it code and considering he had a prominent position at the time of the Abbasid dynasty. Modern Hebrew is as recent as 19th century, which includes Yiddish and Latin words in it. Aramaic is closest to Arabic. Some linguistic scholars even regard it as a variation dialect to Arabic. Even the use of the term Semitic language is as recent as 18th century. Biblical scholars invented the notion that the spread of the Arabic language came with the spread of Islam, despite the fact that there are evidence pior to it. Yet so many non-Arab Muslim countries like Malaysia, Afghanistan, (Pakistan formerly part of India), Bangladesh, Djibouti (just to name a few) reverted to their original languages despite the fact that they are predominantly Muslims to this day. While Iraq, Syria, Egypt the home of some of the greatest empires of old still speak Arabic in defferent diaects, ever wondered about that? which is oldest or which is the mother language might be debatable, but Hebrew most certainly not it.

[@Itsatz0]

Never trust a Greek bearing gifts.

[@muhammadx656]

Issa ( Jesus) does exist but Paul was a big liar

[@danduryea]

+Muhannad X - Please cite your evidence that "jesus" exists.

[@muhammadx656]

Douglas Davis it is mentioned in Quran which is 1400 years old reference

[@danduryea]

+@@muhammadx656 - That means it was "mentioned" in a book written 600 years after the supposed event? That does not qualify as evidence.

[@muhammadx656]

Douglas Davis. Then, you should reject almost all of human history ignoring human history was transferred by means other than writing. When Quran was talking about Jesus, he was not presenting as new fact but discussing that Jesus was a human. no one from whole region denied Jesus existence as it was fact as truth for them but all reference about debates between people about who was Jesus really ? Now someone come after 2000 years and deny it?

[@danduryea]

+@@muhammadx656 - The Odyssey was written in the 8th century BC and Zeus is "god." Does that make it true?

[@someperson2789]

So if it is true that Paul wanted to destroy Greek rationalism then what is your point? Do you even have an actual point or do you argue from an antitheist position and accuse Paul of being a boogeyman who preached faith? And oh yes, bad Paul who wanted to "destroy" various philosophical approaches to life where none pointed to a personal God or enlightened a human being on who saves from sin and that such a thing is possible. This video seems to be a pitiful try at demonizing apostle Paul, whose message was not only philosophically ahead of all the various philosophies and unlike them, his message had a living element contained in it, the two way communication between God and man, the renewed life, the life with eyes opened wide and with ears to hear. So may I ask, why do you have something against a way in which a personal and loving God is preached which offers salvation from sin when if a goal of philosophy back then was to instill virtue and spiritual growth in a man? Paul's Gospel was in fact the most philosophically rich thing concerning man's freedom from vices and lusts of the flesh and it's much more than just one's personal liberation from the aforementioned.

[@sidepot]

some person You lost me at a loving god.

[@someperson2789]

@@sidepot How is God not a loving God? The way the Bible portrays God is that he even is the Father of Life itself, and the first sin as far as I see was when evil as an abstract possibility became a reality. If you think God is evil because hell exists then why inversely is there the promise that a heaven exists and that God desires all be saved??

[@sidepot]

some person Well, let’s see. This god of yours sets up his creation for failure by placing something deadly in the garden and tells them do not touch. Then places an evil tempter in there as well to make it even harder. Would you place a loaded gun or a jar of poison in your children’s playpen and tell them not to touch it? Would you also place an evil being in there as well to tempt them? Now keep in mind you’re an all knowing god and you can see the future. You know what they will do. Is that the kind of parent you aspire to be? Now it’s not just death for them but for every human being that is born. Then it doesn’t end there because the ultimate consequence is eternal damnation to burn in the fires of hell forever and ever in eternal unimaginable torment. This so called free choice is love Jesus or burn in hell. That’s the doings of a dictator who has no mercy. Would you want to be presented with a potential spouse and then be told love this person or be cast into a fire lit forever? Is that your idea of free will and love? Now do you have any more questions you fucking moron?

[@someperson2789]

@Stefan Urban A God of wisdom and love will do that, because like cattle men may need to be pricked with a sharp stick to get moving into the field and plow, so to is it profitable for a man who's well accustomed with his carnal nature, or in other words the lowly animalistic side of him to get put on a sickbed by God and hear God speaking to him through his hard trial which is his illness. Is this perhaps not ideal and absurd? If you think so man's fallen state where our carnal nature is natural is what's not ideal, but the voice of the conscience is also natural if you were to tell me people who are sick and believe that God is waking them up through their sickness are superstitious, because affirming or denying the conscience are both assertive positions a person can pick for themselves. Because deity by definition cannot be love and not jealous, God is willing to throw some on a sick bed in order that they may turn and repent because even if they were to live healthy they will still one day die, perhaps unexpectedly and would end up in hell, perhaps had they not been chastised in the sickness they had.

[@georgesmith8019]

I would like to know how many copies of this do we have? AND MOST IMPORTANT ..WHEN were these copies found? Bart Ehrman and Bruce Metzger taught me to ask these IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. - Strabo (63 BC - 24 AD) Geography - IX.1 P.S. You have some really dumb lemmies following you.

[@vivahernando1]

It's lemmings btw .... you sound mad bro .... better stick to your "Looking To Jesus Ministries" subscription

[@georgesmith8019]

Thanks never could spell. BUT why DO these lemmings never question these people who are leading these people ONLY FOR MONEY! On the other side all the cons like Joyce Myers, Joel Olsteen and plenty more! I care about truth!!

[@gorgongear2290]

Can you please be more specific in your criticisms? I'm uncertain what Strabo's Geographica has with any of this. (Though I am returning to this video to read through what comments this channel attracts, so I don't recall all of its content.)

[@gorgongear2290]

(Took me forever to get a comment through, too. My browser got a bug or something. : I )

[@truthunveiling1184]

Why do you sound like the Leprechaun?🤣🤣

[@JenniferKamikazi]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@user-uh3gn6sg6y]

because he is! thats the true

[@willempasterkamp862]

It's the pantheon Roma, for all gods and therefor for no god. written in rome about rome. fake news.

[@melinaraft4539]

Jesus is real

[@jesusexposed1848]

no he's n0t

[@spacedoggo6624]

May the hand of god be against you

[@zoltron30]

Repent and believe the Gospel

[@haroldhart2688]

WASTE OF TIME

[@malinstella6965]

you phony idiot.

[@user-uh3gn6sg6y]

why

[@spacedoggo6624]

May the hand of God be against all of you

[@williamarts5370]

if paul is a lier then say how those people converted into Christianity ? bible says history

[@tedarcher9120]

If Muhhamad is a liar how all these arabs converted to islam and conquered half a world? Quoran says history

[@tedarcher9120]

because people want to, thet's why

[@mrsbrownandhercat]

@ Ted - same with Adolf in the '30s.

[@todshopov8727]

WILLIAM Arts I can tell you, for example, how Bulgaria was turned to Christianity in 855AD. With fire, sword and mass killings of obstinate pagans. It always works.

[@PifflePrattle]

If Joseph Smith was a liar how come there are morons, whoops mormons?

[@linda2468lou]

with God, all things are possible! Jesus is the Son of God. No matter how many books you read, how much knowledge you think you have, how perfected an accent you speak, you can never KNOW GOD unless He lets you. you haven't been invited and this is why you think like this. you are blind to the truth of God and you will never be able to figure it out, theorize through it, logically understand it, because you cannot read the white on the page! but if you ever think you would like to know the mystery, the real one, not made up by you or people like this. who talk big words, puffed up, elephant talk, if you want to know (from a pure heart), then just ask for Jesus to show you the way!

[@todshopov8727]

Linda Keaton Darling, please change the CD. It’s getting boring.

[@julianskinner3697]

This is nonsense. People once thought Thor was real but they were wrong too.

[@PedroHenrique-SW]

It's simple: Paul told the history to the Acts' author, may God have mercy of us all