Paul Walker Reveals Bizarre Way He Got 'Fast & Furious' Role In 2001 Intv

Paul Walker didn't even read the script before he signed on to his beloved "Fast & Furious" role. Access Hollywood’s podcast “The Vault” unearthed an interview with the late star in 2001 where he revealed the "bizarre" way he snagged the lead part in the hit franchise, sharing, "The way it came about was really bizarre, they came to me and presented this idea, that’s all it was at the time ... They didn't even have a screenplay, they didn't have anything." He also noted that his mind was telling him no, but his heart told him to go for the role. Hear more on Access Hollywood's "The Vault" podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...

[@martaavery7744]

He will be missed and remembered for his talent and how nice he was.

[@joeyweston9001]

well another thing to is his looks lets b honest

[@kaideleon5727]

@@joeyweston9001 no homo he’s a good looking man

[@AlgoLeve_1]

@@kaideleon5727 oh he is trust me (no homo)

[@kaideleon5727]

@@AlgoLeve_1 no homo🤝

[@hhernandez8437]

I met him in Santa Barbara at a Mexican restaurant super nice guy.

[@ElverGalarga-bz3yh]

Without him this saga wouldn’t have made it where it is no

[@codylarson6842]

They still riding his coat tails

[@alistairknight9883]

The movies are rubbish compared what they were when he was in it. It's not what they used to be fact

[@1980sSinaloense]

Without toretto either they both need one in another in the franchise

[@tamarreid1966]

Damn right

[@genesisboakye7660]

him and vin too

[@ItsYurVatoAlex]

It amazes me how well spoken he was, very clear, and he seemed so genuine. You will forever be missed, Buster ❤️

[@bz.27k15]

Not sure how him being well spoken would amaze you?

[@Ianisatool]

.....

[@timmyrahman4803]

The year this interview was taken I was born and recently this year I turned 20. Makes me realize just how much of an impact Paul and the F&F franchises had even two decades later. His legacy lives on. RIP to a legend.

[@suwalkeracklescavill1218]

Thank god Paul listened to his heart and decided to make the first fast movie. Can you really imagine any one else in that role? He is Brian O'Connor and always will be in our hearts! The one and only!

[@paulvang7508]

Miss this guy, man he was super humble too no matter how high his celerity status was .

[@DJV94022]

Being a celebrity was below him, its like what people say YOU control the car the car doesnt control YOu

[@samvoulalis205]

The laugh, smiles and persona. Forever with US ALL!

[@jazic82]

I still remember when I heard about his death... I was at a restaurant and I passed it off as one of those fake news reports that were popular at the time where celeb deaths were reported before they were confirmed. His death hit me harder than any other celeb I can think of. I grew up right out of HS watching TF&F movies and they are always my all time fav and go to series. He died too soon and his death hurts...

[@nicoleeverett1696]

The way I found out was a similar situation. My son and I were at a restaurant and when I got home, my mom told me Paul Walker passed away. Honestly I didn't believe it at first either, thought it was fake news

[@kinggg87]

Back then... 2001 was without any social bs ... Everything was normal... No Instagram, tiktok, face, nothing.... Just fun and enjoying life.... 2010 was last "normal" year for me.... And 2000s last "normal" decade... R.I.P Paul

[@sheiladuri5196]

R .l .P my legendary Paul Walker always be in our hearts 💓💓

[@dr.loomis4221]

Even though he slept with a 16 year old girl when he was 33?

[@riz984]

@@dr.loomis4221 cry harder

[@fooglez]

Miss this guy so much. I was 9 when it came out and forced my mom to take me to see it 6 times in the theatres, then I bought the VHS the moment it came out and watched it a million times. RIP Paul Walker, I ate my tuna with no crust ever since then.

[@exrae1992]

This was quality movie era, even paul knows what a great movie is made of real stunts, no green screen, i like some cgi and some effects but u cant beat the movies who made real stunts in thier films, paul knew wat made a great movie god bless his soul r.i.p

[@jonathant211]

2fast 2furious was insane wit CGI

[@FuckTheGlobal]

gullible people these days. it was CGI all over the place.. lol

[@simplejan5942]

@@FuckTheGlobal yes but they actually had to get the shots irl before computer enhancement, its like saying LOTR would have looked the same if they didnt film irl first and then enhanced the images.

[@simplejan5942]

@@FuckTheGlobal he meant it wasnt 100% cgi like movies now

[@khaterinealcaraz6137]

it's been a long day without see you my friend😭💔2023 and still a heart breaking moment...miss you Paul Walker...Legends never dies

[@bryce2432]

I cant imagine anyone else playing this role

[@ballaking1000]

Tom Holland! (sarcasm)

[@ugurasci4404]

His brothers?

[@gc99289]

Keanu Reeves, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, and literally any other A-lister could have done same or better job, but they were too expensive for this Point Break 2.0 knock off flick.

[@ballaking1000]

@@gc99289 What about Will Smith, Jamie Foxx or Denzel Washington? Anything wrong with these guys?

[@gc99289]

@@ballaking1000 Yeah, they're black and the role called for a babyfaced white boy. Denzel is older than Vin Diesel LOL by a lot.

[@AutoSearPin]

“Modern day drag racing” I wish it still was…both irl and in the movie

[@zacharywilliams9708]

Brother

[@abrahamg3354]

Modern day underground car shit is alive and strong today. Just go to the capital of the car scene: Southern California. It is very crazy.

[@LPerez-fx3ph]

One of the best interviews from an actor. What a legend!! R.I.P.

[@dr.loomis4221]

Legends don't date underage girls

[@brycevaldez4635]

It’s hard to imagine, how someone was so full of life is gone.

[@ihaia829]

The first fast and furious will always be one of the best movies ever made. Rest in peace bro

[@farhatali761]

100% agreed

[@MisterLowrider]

I've always been one of the biggest fans of the F&F franchise. I actually met my best friends because of my and their love of cars. After Paul Walker passed, the movie went down. He really was authentic in his love for cars and I think that's what shined through over time. I didn't know him but I can tell he was a very down to earth person and the franchise is missing that present day. Good interview!!

[@kurta2372]

What really makes this movie special to watch even today is the fact that they actually did all the stunts. No green screen or CGI.

[@JohnLucasPolak]

2001, when chewing a gum was still considered as cool.

[@john-martin]

he’s probably about to make out with a babe at any second. Gota be ready bruh

[@dose1107]

Paul males anything look cool nothing to do with when chewing gum was cool or not

[@nightlifegaming4916]

How it feels to chew 5 gum

[@RCGshakenbake]

I work in a shop and this dude is chewing gum constantly. Never has his mouth closed. Idk how he doesn't realize how gross this, especially in the COVID era and all while he smacks on carcinogens and debris we buff into the air at the same time. Lmao RIP him and Paul Walker.

[@MoHawkAnakin]

@@RCGshakenbake imagine someone saying chewing gum is nasty because of COVID 😂. I’m not understanding the connection what so ever. In that case people can’t even talk because if they open their mouth they get COVID 😂

[@illestdream9083]

He literally called it he pretty much foreshadowed what was gonna happen to this saga what he said @10:00

[@Jay-us8ko]

Fast and Furious and Gone in 60 Seconds both came out when I was in high school but when people started seeing Fast and Furious a lot of kids started street racing

[@100tuti001]

Right fr

[@capcitytones5084]

I started stealing cars *shrug*

[@furryp2402]

He lived fast and furious. It cost him his life. Really missed him in the current films

[@TraumaER]

But he died a legend.

[@TheForeignNationalBornNatural]

He went out the way he wanted to

[@tylerdurden788]

He is still heart of movie.

[@FirearmJunkie]

Well he wasn’t driving

[@geopioneergsxr5357]

@@TheForeignNationalBornNatural I can guarantee that being burned alive in the passenger seat is not " how he wanted to" go out.

[@eirinipanopoulou9714]

Thanks for posting this! We miss you Paul!

[@surfingnerd621]

Man this guy will always be the guy I looked up to most, behind my dad. I aspired to be like Paul and still do, he was a great soul. RIP Legend

[@NewbombedTurk]

Sure, even when he was banging an unaged girl….

[@jujasname]

@@NewbombedTurk She was 18 but whatever

[@NewbombedTurk]

@@jujasname After he banged her illegally for a year or two, but whatever

[@jujasname]

@@NewbombedTurk Source: Trust me bro

[@NewbombedTurk]

@@jujasname Check your sources bro, he knew the girl when she was even younger, and basically waited until she was 17 to lay it to her. Just because he died tragically, doesn’t mean he’s not a pederast. If that were my 17 year old daughter, a car wreck wouldn’t have ended his career. Stop worshiping this z grade actor, he’s no Paul Newman.

[@Iamtherealflip]

Everytime you saw him smile it was genuine. That spoke louder than words.

[@CarsAndPablo]

Its like a forewarning at the 10:00 mark

[@officerspooder]

they the avengers now

[@CarsAndPablo]

@@officerspooder 😂😂😂

[@azraselimanovic4729]

He was always so adorable. Rip Paul Walker. Breaks heart every time I see a video of him.. We will always miss you Paul ❤️

[@indy007jones]

I'm very fortunate that I got to meet Brian at Baseball game in Anaheim. I asked if we could take some photos so he took us in a back hallway so we could have some privacy he spent a good 15 minutes taking photos and chatting about the movie. We miss him so much.

[@christianlopez3393]

Great video thank you for your wonderful work

[@gassedvlogs3223]

He’s not dead he’s just waiting for us at the finish line ❤️

[@imamarx9863]

that's my blue-eyed angel always speaking from his heart I miss you Pablo your smiles laugh in a certain way you will look at something and so much more that I miss. always in my heart and memories and soul never forgotten a piece of me missing

[@RandyMarshMurica]

Weirdo…

[@CarlosHernandez-bt9gs]

Bruh

[@illest3k]

um

[@nonsugarnoki]

Pablo?

[@crackcbainefl2675]

@@nonsugarnoki the name Paul in Spanish is Pablo

[@nikeairjordansonmyfeet7030]

I watched The fast and the furious at the theater when it first released it was one of the best nights of my life Rip Paul Walker miss you bud ,no homo

[@KiddRilla]

Why would you put "no homo" come on now 🤣

[@reddirtsoldier90]

Still an icon. Legends never die. Tuna no crust 🤘🏽

[@ArthurTheAce]

“I Like The Tuna Here”

[@BrandonJ.88]

@UCIJoNqAmNtL3VWY01iy8pIg thats bullshit a**hole...nobody likes the tuna here... Paul....yeah well I do.

[@aaronestrada44]

So glad to have seen this film in 2001 with about 100 fellow street racers and taking over that theater, cheering at each race scene - RIP Paul

[@sohogen8482]

lucky

[@jeannebautista6688]

There was only one PAUL WALKER and there will always be ONLY ONE PAUL WALKER.....EVER!!!! I FEEL we were BLESSED TO HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW PAUL WALKER EVEN THOUGH THE TIME WAS NOT LONG ENOUGH. HE WAS WHAT MADE FAST AND FURIOUS WHAT IT BECAME ....TODAY. HE WILL ALWAYS BE LOVED AND CHERISH FOREVER!!!!!

[@easygo1477]

At least we actually got to have Paul walker for a minute :(

[@thetruthisherethetruth5395]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dhamongrimwulfe5401]

“Hollywood always manages to get in there and …. Ruin it” Yep. RIP O’Conor 😢

[@ShawnG411]

Loved this guy in the movies feel like he was the Steve McQueen for his generation. Definitely missed in the fast saga.

[@nickypoundtown9568]

James Dean

[@astrum_nauta]

Is it just me or does anyone else immediately think of California when he speaks?

[@user-yo8ab1ys9e]

Nope I think the same thing lol everything about this video screams California

[@Webster132]

He is literally talking about how to regain control on a turn, holy moly.

[@bann3d232]

he wasn't driving

[@elu5ive]

@@bann3d232 right. porsches are some of the most dangerous to drive cars for inexperienced drivers out there. even if he himself was experienced, he never should've let other people drive his car, especially with anyone else in the passenger seat. i know people who had friends die in porsches. they've got the pefect weight distribution for braking, corner entry and straight acceleration, but even pros spin out between apex and exit all the time (and porsche suspensions are usually terrible)

[@renderyours510]

@@elu5ive you might wanna check your facts lmao. Porsche are generally the leaders when it comes to building road going track cars

[@dominickhead1238]

The Porsche he crashed in had been sitting for a long time. This cause the tires on the Porsche to rot. They were not going to provide the performance needed at high speed this ultimately caused the crash. Rip.

[@sethurott9927]

@@elu5ive lmao Porsches are amazing what are you talking about

[@cafe80s]

Thanks so much for posting this! I miss him and the whole '90's early '00 import era.

[@MaseraSteve]

Not from states never heard of “import era” before, What happened? Does the import regulation gotten more strict later on?

[@cloroxbleach885]

@@MaseraSteve Japan made their best cars during that time period Skylines Supra s2k Silvia eclipse etc

[@MaseraSteve]

@@cloroxbleach885 ah, now i understand thanks m. btw have you seen the supra look alike from mitsubishi? I Know a person who owns it felt pretty weird! i never saw those anywhere before

[@cloroxbleach885]

@@MaseraSteve Japanese cars had those similar 90s body style I love the way they look

[@MaseraSteve]

@@cloroxbleach885 yep, couldn't agree more. Didn't expect someone with meme account have car knowledge, I'm impressed... Btw just saw the new supra on road for a price looks pretty cool irl, picture doesn't do it's justice

[@txterbug]

This is soooooo 2001 😂😂😂 man those were the PEAK days.

[@donrickles4539]

Damn. Thanks for this recommendation. I was just playing nfs heat last night. Raced a Nissan skyline w the same skin and all, while bumpin the 2f2f song. Y'all know the one.

[@ericjmasters]

There will never be another Paul Walker. He was the coolest man in the room and the one we all wanted to be like and all the women loved. What a humble man and he was a great father and amazing actor.

[@Stands01]

I am happy this got recommended to me, you will be missed Paul....R.I.P ♥🙏

[@easygo1477]

I always get Paul walker recommendations everyday and that always brightens my day. :)

[@sbfhawk4343]

Litte bit of the backstory. I was heavily into modifying my 1997 Civic Ex coupe back way before this movie was filmed I had put my first Nitrous kit and AEM air intake in the car and some rims. I was working out of the Fontana area and I got invited to a presentation they called it "Redline" The local flyer was asking for people with modded cars especially imports to attend. I did attend with my Black Honda 1997 Civic and it was at the San Bernandino Abandon Air Force airport. I had no clue who was in the scene what was it all about just thought sure why not Its about import cars I am all into that. So it turned out that it was for the filming of the RACEWARS in the DESERT scene. My car got picked to go to the front of the cast area near the strip. I was stoked. and that is the first time I had come up to Paul Walker and thought who is this White boy? I was like he does not look like the import kind of guy. Saw VIn Diesel he looked pretty cool bad ass to me anyway. But I had no idea that this would be the beginning of all the Fast and the Furious showcase.

[@marvelvigowijaya1074]

damn thats cool

[@kurtdowney1489]

That's very cool thanks for sharing.

[@sbfhawk4343]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucksit was a 97 Ex coupe. not an Si

[@chinamed1]

@@sbfhawk4343 he could have edited it out

[@aleesaonoahu4550]

Fontana like where Travis Barker is from?

[@connorl5868]

"My mind was telling me no, But my heart was telling me, hell off Let's go" - Paul Walker

[@darrentylor5473]

One of my friends died in a car accident. They thought he was a street racer bc of his car... Just like Paul, he was driving responsibility and someone hit him. He died of cardiac arrest in his car bc someone else didn't have the skills to be behind the wheel with a license. Whether you have a regular vehicle or a performance car, take a defensive driving course please... We can all benefit and it will save lives...

[@geedee94134]

Legendary & iconic human being that will always be fondly remembered by all

[@CatGuy969]

no

[@Redhood813]

“I said forget about it cuh”

[@mohammedfaiisal]

The franchise has not been the same without him. It should have ended at part 5 but 100% part 7 should have been the last one mainly because of what happened to Paul. Part 8 was not a bad movie but the new one part 9 was so bad that it gave me a headache when I watched it in cinemas. There's nothing good to say about part 9 except the after credit scene where Jason Statham had a very good cameo in it

[@ommore5417]

8 worse than 9

[@mohammedfaiisal]

@@ommore5417 8 was better in my opinion. They didn't go over the top multiple times like 9 did. This is my opinion. Jason statham saving the baby that scene was good. But without Paul Walker or Brian the franchise has not been good

[@ommore5417]

@@mohammedfaiisal sure the action does go over the top, but many action films are like, i just hated the storyline with elena getting pregnant and shaw joining the team even though he "killed" han, also with dom going rogue only brian i feel would've felt right to lead the crew, not the nobodies or hobbs, but yes u are right its not the same without paul walker

[@ThrottleTherapist]

😭 Paul’s the reason why I’m such a car guy now. Miss ya Buster.

[@loganobrien3525]

I have so much more appreciation for the driving in the first movie knowing paul did a lot of driving and i have so much respect for paul R.I.P legend

[@thebrethrenmatthew2389]

Much love Brian (paul). RIP.

[@BlazedHerping]

4:31 when he winks as he says 80-90 mph

[@SL4PSYM4XY]

RIP Paul. I will forever be a little but sad that I never got to meet him. He was one of the good ones. He’s missed every day.

[@bobbygrey5859]

Damn I miss this guy quite humble and played a good role in this series.

[@chuka10]

what an awsome interview . paul is really one of a kind. the looks same as the character. real and beautiful.

[@davidnavarro4821]

Back on 2001, I was barely 10 years old. I wasn’t much aware about the web but I was already a screen-addict since I watched TV and played games a lot. Was the time when I watched MTV a lot and trailers for movies like X-Men, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Fast & Furious were on heavy rotation ! I scarcely went to theaters back then so I didn’t see FF1, in fact I’ve only watched FF4 in 2009 while on a plane to New-York. Man, brings back memories.

[@nicholasgarrick3165]

Rip legendary Paul walker you will always be in ours heart, and will surely be missed 💓💓.

[@brimripper4905]

Literally he made these movies golden 👌🏻

[@Desi0519]

His smile is the best❤️🔥

[@aaronmckean915]

its cool to hear about the truck scene and the actors actually getting to do that. that's why the original was and will always be the best.

[@nickw0tup]

R.I.P. The legend lives on.

[@cobyhearns4667]

Thank God for youtube!!! Cuz we get to cherish the memories of all the greats we've lost over the years forever!!! 👑👑👑🙏🙏😇😇😇❤❤❤❤ THEIR STILL ALIVE IN SPIRIT AND THROUGH THE MUSIC, MOVIES, TV SHOWS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THEY LEFT US!!! IK FOR CERTAIN THEY WATCH OVER THERE FAN'S!! 👑👑👑🙏 HOW I LOOK AT IT THEIR WITH US EVERYDAY WHEN WE WATCH THEM!! 👑🙏 WE'LL SEE THEM AGAIN ONE DAY!

[@burkielol]

stil love the fast and the furios but it will never be the same without Paul! R.I.P P.W!

[@jeffstapleton8695]

R I.P. Paul, thanks 4 some really good movies, funny interviews just you being you brother for paul 🙏

[@thecreator1455]

this guy was deep we love you Paul we miss you. R.I.P

[@naylasyafa4446]

I miss him so much:(

[@mateuspereira3419]

2022🇧🇷 saudades eterna Paul Walker 😭😭💔

[@iVaciniti]

The amount of people that turned in to car enthusiasts cuz of him is insane. Rest up Brian ! ❤️

[@Swiftimus]

why are we just seeing this? What a great interview after a decade when the movie released.

[@reymarnier119]

Paul wouldne never let Fast 9 be what it was if he was still with us RIP

[@nathanieliniguez750]

Was fast 5 -7 not insane as well?

[@SIRSWEETJONES]

@@nathanieliniguez750 5 wasn’t too bad

[@nathanieliniguez750]

@@SIRSWEETJONES ok but 6&7?

[@PARIZEN]

Paul wasnt a producer so this statement is false, he was just an actor

[@timkruse9912]

@@PARIZEN rumor has it he would clash with vin during filming of fast 4 because of the dramatic direction he was taking it, i feel like if paul was alive the stunts in these movies would not be as over the top as they are,

[@garlanminton7084]

It hurt watching this today, when he said at the end about crashing at high speed. RIP Paul 🙏

[@kinggee5605]

“I like his haircut” what Leon said lol but that haircut was smooth on Paul tho

[@timkruse9912]

He is and will always be the heart and face of the fast movies

[@lukebreakey8745]

We miss you brother! You're the coolest.

[@Mr_brut3]

Everytime I see a new fast and the Furious I expect Brian to walk in, it's hard to see the new ones and be like Paul would of done it better ! RIP 🙏 you will be missed Braaaaa..

[@matthewsteenbergen8904]

Was A Great Actor and Person on and Off Screen. He Is Definitely Missed. ❤😪

[@IsolinaDelgado]

Q.I.P.R. Paul Walker ❤❤❤ 1973-2013

[@spencecam]

Man I miss this guy. Seemed like such a great human being. RIP.

[@johnconnick5308]

What a sad loss for a true professional and absolutely a humble man and I do cry when I watch the Fast & Furious franchise but Tokyo Drift is not should have been made as to me that is my opinion. His Reach Out World he goes out and help volunteers like doctors and nurses and you never see him in the papers online media when he was alive. My thoughts and prayers go to Paul Walker’s family, the Fast & Furious cast and all his closest friend’s RIP

[@michaelkaldani5141]

The only other time another actor was so perfect for the role was Al Pacino in The Godfather....Paul was made for this role. RIP.

[@IamABeliver]

Even on this you can tell the world was so different 😢

[@nathanieljones9852]

I got into cars from the start of fast furious, love the things I do today, weekend racing, proformance parts, and cops that's what it was suppose to be all about 🥺🥺🥺 miss you Paul.

[@DaVisionary95]

May his spirit watch over us all 💐🙏🏾

[@Sharpshooter111]

So sad what happened to him. If he was still around it’s possible the fast saga would’ve stuck a little more too it’s roots. And I believe he would’ve been an incredible actor, between his kindness and looks and skill.

[@MegasXLR]

Will be forever missed ❤

[@kingbram8965]

RIP paul walker, he was a great actor and will be missed. love and miss him. salud mi familia

[@andrewipp426]

What a sad loss, he gave a cool vibe as an actor but also as a guy who was truly a good human being gone way too soon he has left his mark, like James Dean or Steve McQueen!

[@mk11xgameplays44]

Everything about Paul was so alluring! He was really beautiful and listening to him talk here is absolutely captivating. Really miss Paul!

[@keanvanderwesthuizen3476]

I watched fast and furious many times never gets old is one of my favourite movies out of all of them love you Paul we all miss you like you our own brother RIP mate

[@nelsongoncalves5379]

We miss you brother Paul RIP,

[@easygo1477]

Such a talented actor he was, his role as Brian O’Conner in the fast and furious franchise was how he became famous and how the fast and furious movies is where it is now today so, if it hadn’t been for Paul Walker to begin with, fast and furious would have dead as hell so Paul Walker was the 1 who brought a lot more fun and joy to the franchise. I wish he didn’t die, I wish he was with us today. RIP Paul Walker we will always remember you, always miss you and most importantly we will never forget you. 😭😭😭😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@jena0111]

Dear Paul, we will never forget you. You were so amazing person. We all miss you so much.

[@luisgordillo1695]

I was 20years old coming home from work at 2am in the morning. A car enthusiast myself BTW.. going home to my girl's house. Corner of 118th st and prairie in Hawthorne CA. Had to go around cause the streets were closed. Saw the cars lined up off El Segundo and prairie. and clearly knew they were filming. Was so tired that I went in to sleep. A year or so later I saw the movie and was like whaaaa. 😁

[@dylankurum952]

Paul Walker is a good man , everyone that know him would tell you that ... i'm Sad he's gone , I'm sad for everyone who love him that are sad now cause he's gone ... Paul Walker, Everyone will miss you , Thanks for everything you did while you was on this earth ...

[@marcushorope4912]

Gone but never forgotten!! R.I.P Paul Walker 🕊️❤️

[@draco2xx]

1st 3 F&F were good then it all went down hill from there🤣

[@krnc17]

You have to admit, fast five was a good movie. Fast 6 wasn’t bad either, but quite silly.

[@wendellkirton3694]

Facts

[@renewedphoenix6263]

Fast five was the last good one for me

[@krnc17]

@@renewedphoenix6263 always thought fast 6 was a solid now, to be fair ☺️ but yeah after that, it went downhill for me too.