Paul Washer's Gospel of Contradictions - Bob Wilkin

[@erixxu3260]

Agree, Paul Washer's Gospel comply with Calvinism doctrine, but not comply with Bible.

[@wtom04]

Calvinism/Lordship Salvation ALWAYS produces DOUBLE TALK.

[@2Chronicles714_]

Romans Chapter 8 by itself destroys the doctrine of you can live anyway you want and still go to heaven.

[@Cmbtvtrn05]

​​@@2Chronicles714_of course not, God changes our desires. I think all born again understand that. He does gives us a new heart. Godbless you.

[@lunchladyland1562]

I'd argue that about charasmatics/ evangelist.. If anything I think Calvinism is the closest you can get to following biblical truth and not emotionalism.

[@wtom04]

@@lunchladyland1562 Calvinism is NOT Biblical truth, but Calvinism spawned from Augustine who is also the father of Roman Catholicism. John Calvin's name is affixed to the false teachings of Augustine as Calvin ardently admired Augustine and incorporated Augustine's writings into his own writings in Calvin's "Institutes of the Christian Religion" about a millennium later. One cannot read more than 5 pages of Calvin's "institutes" without seeing the name "Augustine" quoted as Calvin quotes him over 400 times in his own writings. None of the 5 points of Calvinism line up with Scripture as each point is tainted with elements of Manichaeism, Stoicism, Gnosticism, and Neo-Platonism all of which Augustine embraced which contributed to his errant interpretation of the Scriptures. Augustine started out orthodox in his original understanding, but then for about 15 years he disappears off the scene and is silent and later at around 411 -412 A.D, Augustine does a 180 degree about face and went off the rails in his theology with the above mentioned false teachings which he used to eisegete the Scriptures.

[@wtom04]

@@lunchladyland1562 Calvinism is NOT Biblical truth, but Calvinism spawned from Augustine who is also the father of Roman Catholicism. John Calvin's name is affixed to the false teachings of Augustine as Calvin ardently admired Augustine and incorporated Augustine's writings into his own writings in Calvin's "Institutes of the Christian Religion" about a millennium later. One cannot read more than 5 pages of Calvin's "institutes" without seeing the name "Augustine" quoted as Calvin quotes him over 400 times in his own writings. None of the 5 points of Calvinism line up with Scripture as each point is tainted with elements of Manichaeism, Stoicism, Gnosticism, and Neo-Platonism all of which Augustine embraced which contributed to his errant interpretation of the Scriptures. Augustine started out orthodox in his original understanding, but then for about 15 years he disappears off the scene and is silent and later at around 411 -412 A.D, Augustine does a 180 degree about face and went off the rails in his theology with the above mentioned false teachings which he used to eisegete the Scriptures.

[@jimfarnell5813]

We are accused of ‘easy believeism’… My response is, yes it is easy cuz God intended for it to be easy for us BUT it cost God EVERYTHING!!!

[@rubeno.2808]

Repent and believe. And Upon examining yourself what’s the evidence you’re saved?

[@2Chronicles714_]

Where does Jesus say it will be easy to follow Him? Jesus said to pick up your cross daily and follow Him. Luke 9:23-26 Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. 24For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will save it. 25What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, and yet lose or forfeit their very self? 26Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. Luke 14:27-35,62 And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple. 28 Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Won’t you first sit down and estimate the cost to see if you have enough money to complete it? 29For if you lay the foundation and are not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule you30saying, ‘This person began to build and wasn’t able to finish.’ 31“Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? 32If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. 33In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples 34“Salt is good, but if it loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? 35It is fit neither for the soil nor for for the manure pile; it is thrown out. 62Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.”

[@hampusbengtsson4580]

​@@rubeno.28081Jn 5:10-13: "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

[@hampusbengtsson4580]

​@@2Chronicles714_So it is not a gift the, nor is it eternal? Tit 1:2: "In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;" Rom 4:5: "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness."

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@hampusbengtsson4580 How does scripture say we get the gift. Repent and believe. Acts 20:21 I (Paul) have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they MUST TURN TO GOD IN REPENTANCE and HAVE FAITH (believe) in our Lord Jesus. Repent and believe. Contrary to what some teachers are now teaching repentance isn't a work any more than believing is. Romans 4:4-5,16 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness.:16 THAT IS WHY IT DEPENDS ON FAITH, IN ORDER THAT THE PROMISE MAY REST ON GRACE AND BE GUARANTEED TO ALL HIS OFFSPRING -NOT ONLY TO THE ADHERENT OF THE LAW 👉BUT ALSO TO THE ONE WHO SHARES THE FAITH of Abraham, who is the father of us all" Abraham was justified by his 👉works, (but not works alone) but because he believed with faith he did the works that God required.👈 James 2:21-24 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”-and he was called a friend of God. 24You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Without works Abraham's faith would have been meaningless. Repentance and faith are two sides of the same coin. You cannot have faith without repentance and you won't repent without faith. Without both the coin would have no value. To say you believe without repentance is like saying you only need your right leg to walk rather than both. In Romans 4:5 his repentance/ Faith are counted for righteousness. We are saved by grace through repentance which is the consequence of faith. Paul does not contradict what he says in Acts about repenting of sin in Romans 4:4-5 Scripture must be kept in context.

[@ritchievernon8099]

P a u l washer said, along with a guy named voddie, that a simple prayer of faith will not save you! When actual reality the Bible says whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved!! I prayed a simple prayer of faith years ago and that prayer held me together all these years! And I'm still living for Christ! 🙏😊

[@karinecarde1254]

True

[@gregorylatta8159]

I heard Washer call the verses in John goofy little tracts.

[@Rob9mm]

Washer had me constantly doubting my salvation for years.

[@syciuplyte8494]

Same here, and it was the most tormenting time of my life.

[@Ngar_KJV]

Amen Paul washer is a false prophet. I made a video against him here also. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6i3k6SYmtuNlck

[@Galatians-vr8xd]

He's vile! Anagram for evil!

[@Covelio]

HE IS EVIL :(

[@Galatians-vr8xd]

@@Covelio his doctrine is from the put of hell!

[@heyjude6584]

Paul washer's target is to make you doubt the gospel if you are not living holy

[@2Chronicles714_]

He knows there are many "Christians" in name only. He preachers a true believer will not live like the unbelievers of the world.

[@zerowork7631]

those who usually say this are thse who keep falling to sin

[@heyjude6584]

@@zerowork7631 if you agree with him making people doubting the gospel then you will burn in hell

[@According_To_Matt]

​@2Chronicles714_ that sounds biblical.

[@joelauretta4067]

No he causes you to examine yourself. There's a difference. 2 Corinthians 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you-unless indeed you fail the test?

[@jayheinz4624]

Good presentation in pointing out the inconsistencies of Calvinism Bob. In another video I watched earlier today, Washer was giving a message where he tells a young lady who is struggling and tormented that she thinks she lost your salvation, and after continuously repenting, doesn't get a response from Jesus. He tells her she has two choices, she can give up and go to hell, or she can go home and keep crying out to God,,, this ,,after she had been doing it I think for months??!!

[@erickchristopher8568]

Sickening actually. 🤮. Wolves 🐺 sewing fear to the sheep 🐑!!!

[@tommyanderson4992]

Work out your salvation with fear and trembling... Paul was rite to tell her to keep praying. I think it would be horrible if he tried to convince her she’s saved when she might not be. Then she might truly be lost forever... like a lot of proclaimed “Christians” these days. They already think their saved when they know nothing about Christ or his work on the cross for sinners..

[@jayheinz4624]

@@tommyanderson4992 no, I have to disagree,,, Paul Washer was not saying that at all. He was discounting the fact that she had made a true profession of faith in Jesus, and that she did truly believe in Him,, but she was being beat up by the enemy, with condemnation and lack of assurance, which I know from personal experience is a horrible thing to go through!.. instead of telling her to keep crying out ,,repenting,, he Paul should have told her and reassured her of her salvation and who she was in Christ Jesus a new creation in Christ Jesus sealed until the day of redemption.. she is what the Apostle Paul would call a weeker brother and or sister and needed reassurance.. not something that could drive her into a psychiatric ward..

[@tommyanderson4992]

@@jayheinz4624 how could you, or Paul Washer possibly know if that woman is truly saved ? this is a perfect example of how 2 people can watch the same exact video and see things completely different. Paul Washer is without a doubt a brother in Christ. I agree with his approach. You can go to any false church and there’s 100 people there that’ll tell you your saved if you recite a prayer once. We need more preachers that are willing to preach the word even when it’s offensive. The truth offends. The Gospel offends. It’s supposed to.

[@2Chronicles714_]

@jayheinz4624 A true believer only has doubts about salvation when they continue in the same sin(s) over and over. Washer is correct she needs to repent and continue to confess the sin asking for forgiveness and pray for deliverance. A true Christian will always repent, will always eventually return to God, and will always resume the struggle against sin. (1 John 1:9 ) Following Andrew Farley's and Ralph Yankee Arnold false teaching will lead you to the lake of fire.

[@STEVEinNC]

Paul Washer didn't say that we have to work and work and work he said that God works and works and works in and through us. That's why God gets all the glory in the end for all the works that He does in and through us.

[@danielsellick9634]

Paul Washer has always confuses me. Thank God has put me straight. I rest in Jesus arms I love the assurance I have in Christ. Thank you for your video

[@ronaldsimmons9517]

It gets worse than that. Washer has taught that if you persist in a particular sin, God walks away from you. How do you like that little gem of ignorance? I believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not the gospel of Paul Washer.

[@MrJeffreyDR]

When I started to become curious about the Bible a couple years ago at 43yo, I found a reformed church because I heard all these great things about John MacArthur and assumed if I found a church endorsed by his ministry then I would be in the right place. Eventually, a few people sent me Paul Washer’s “assurance of salvation” speech as I struggled to understand how to be saved, and because I lacked discernment and was new to the Bible, it greatly discouraged me and hindered my growth. In the two reformed churches I was attending, repentance from sin before coming to Christ was taught. I was told I had to give up certain sins and clean up my life to be forgiven. Needless to say it left me feeling utterly hopeless and I continued like this for a couple of years living in a state of impending terror. Less than two weeks ago I discovered Andy Woods and I now believe Jesus paid it all, past, present and future. I am not worthy, yet our gracious and loving Jesus still gave me a reason to believe and be accepted because he is faithful and cannot lie. After all the reformed brainwashing of faith+works, this free grace doctrine is still sinking in. I assumed God hated me and wanted me to earn my salvation, but it’s the exact opposite. What a wonderful and ever so patient and kind Lord is all I can say!!!

[@jeremyrome517]

You missed what he was saying. He’s saying a true conversion bears the fruit of good works and continuous repentance, not that that is a requirement beforehand for salvation. Even the demons believe that Christ is Lord, but we all know they don’t have the Holy Spirit indwelling them.

[@kristovposlanik8235]

like life of sapson or lot for example. true holiness isnt that right?

[@2Chronicles714_]

​@@kristovposlanik8235 Who taught you your gospel?

[@kristovposlanik8235]

@@2Chronicles714_ you are unable to seperate salvation and fellowship like unsaved paul washer

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@kristovposlanik8235 Is He not saved because he doesn't preach that all you have to do is say I believe and I can live anyway I want? Did Jesus the disciples and Paul preach that? No.

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@kristovposlanik8235 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God. If you fall short of the test repent and believe. Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John. 1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. 1 John 1:5-7 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar. If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin. 1 John 1:8-10 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. When was the last time you were broken over a sin? If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession.

[@eugenejoseph7076]

One of the main reasons I quit Calvinism is because I'm too lazy. Their doctrines are exhausting to keep up with. Once I read this verse, "Be still and know that I am God", I understood. God did ALL THE WORK so I can find rest in Him.

[@demarleroux3766]

Still sounds like Calvinism

[@pastorernestalbuquerque4770]

Hi Brother Bob, I loved all that you have shared, to me it's sound biblical theology. God bless.

[@danaleanne38]

Here is the patients of the saints ,here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith in Yashua.

[@zeljkonedimovic206]

Thank's bro 👍. Respect and regards from Kragujevac, Serbia 🙏♥️

[@Chris-zh9nd]

Some people are very good at public speaking. This skill to speak publicly can give a false impression of knowledge and mastery of a topic. The two concepts of public speaking and knowledge can both exist in someone, but they don't necessarily come hand in hand.

[@Qui_Gon_Jinn_76]

That's not what Washer is saying. He is stating that IF you have been truly born again, YOUR LIFESTYLE WILL TESTIFY TO THAT FACT, PERIOD.

[@GESvids]

Proving our Salvation by Our Words, Our Works, or Both - J. B. Bond kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ6Wmat4iMqZgNU

[@Qui_Gon_Jinn_76]

@GESvids have no idea what you're trying to convey. Works don't save you friend. Read your Bible

[@GESvids]

The Role of God's Word (Bible) in Salvation and Discipleship - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5uUmKOugrWHkMU God's Word (the Bible) is the key to being born again (salvation) and the key to sanctification (becoming more like Christ). In this message by Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society shows how God's Word is vital for receiving everlasting life and for discipleship.

[@Kman.]

It's ALWAYS that a Calvinist will come back & say s/thing like you just said..."You just don't )u/stand...that's not what it means...they're not saying that, etc..." Most people (FACT!), come away after dealing with a Calvinist, more confused than a termite in a yo-yo.

[@Qui_Gon_Jinn_76]

@Kman. Calvinism is a doctrine straight out of hell, period. But if you think that someone lives the same after being born again then you call God a liar. 1 John 3:6-10. 2 Corinthians 5:17

[@Cmbtvtrn05]

I dont get why some call it Lorship Salvation? Is it not the Lord Christ Jesus who saves?Yes it is is Him and by His Grace through faith and we are sealed and saved until the day of redemption. Confusion in not of God. Im not a calvinist. I believe in Jesus Christ. Godbless brothers and sisters. Do not frustrate the grace of God. We are alive in Christ Jesus. Amen

[@commoncentsflips4030]

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Either grace teaches or it doesn't. If you receive a gift so amazing as eternal life, it will change your life. If you become indwelt with the Holy Spirit, you won't be the same person.

[@dough3821]

Lot, King Saul, King Solomon, Demas, and the Corinthians were all born again, yet they gave no evidence of it in their lives. 1 Kings 11:4 even states, " For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father." There is no record in Scripture of Solomon repenting of his idolatry before he died. The same is true of many in the Corinthian Church. Believers who persist in sin will certainly be disciplined by God (Heb. 12:8). They may even be chastened to the point of physical death. Moreover, they will also forfeit eternal rewards when they stand to give an account of their lives at the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Cor. 5:10). However, since the believer in Jesus Christ has already passed from death unto life and currently possesses eternal life (John 5:24), there is no possible way for them to end up in hell It is only those who believe in Jesus Christ that receive everlasting life, not those who "behave" in Him. Besides, if keeping commandments or serving Christ had anything to do with where we spend eternity, we would all be doomed. James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

[@GiftofGrace88]

What does the word 'should' in Titus 2:11 mean to you?

[@Ruben27780]

@@GiftofGrace88I was about to write that lol. These people need some onorato diamante videos.

[@nemochuggles]

Agreed!

[@michaelstanley4698]

Paul Washer is preaching James 1:18-25...which points out to 'be ye doers of the word ('of truth'), and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves'. Notice first verse 21. True faith will 'lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive in meekness the engrafted Word, which is able to save your souls'. Notice again: 'be ye doers of the word'...'not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work' (Ja.1:25, Jn.6:29). Believing on Christ 'is the work of God' in one's heart. Salvation consists of 'belief of the truth AND sanctification of the Spirit' (2Thes.2:13). This video deserves a "thumbs down" for dividing what God 'hath joined together' in Truth. James is using Numbers 9:6-14 as an example. In these verses 'dead body' is the Hebrew word for 'soul'. James 2:26 points this out: 'For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also'. Think about that...and then read Ja.3:13.

[@cyaz1967]

Why does Paul Washer always sound like he's about to cry hysterically

[@gilmorepaul10]

It’s part of his act to make him seem more pious and righteous. He’s all works/works/works. If righteousness was the key most Mormons live more pious that Christians but they’re not saved. The Gospel is to believe, not work

[@Trey_Alexander]

⁠@@gilmorepaul10Paul Washer does not preach a works salvation lol. Never has. Maybe he’s passionate about the word of God is why he gets emotional?

[@gilmorepaul10]

@@Trey_Alexander he backloads works. The Bible says you must “believe” for salvation and that’s it. Washer says you must have works to prove you’re saved which is totally false. Works prove nothing. Mormons, JW’s etc have works but they’re not saved. You’re saved if you believe the Gospel, nothing else is required. Christ paid it all.

[@Rundu1987]

Awesome video, thx Bob Wilken

[@tommcmichael8679]

Washers message is, we are saved by Grace. Faith isn’t possible til regeneration. It is a twisting of Eph. 2:8 & 9. So, not really “faith alone.”

[@graftme3168]

His congregation doesn't look very hopeful!

[@Leon-md3ei]

I refuse to listen to Paul Washer. He seems to enjoy terrifying Christians with his false gospel. How much fear and trauma has his messages bought upon true but vulnerable believers.

[@rubeno.2808]

When you’ve truly come under grace, the new birth.. not only do you have complete forgiveness of every sin.. but when you come in to Grace, sin will not rule over you anymore.. because your not under the old covenant law.. but your under the new covenant.. One way you can find out is.. I’ll present this one verse to you, and you give me the answer.. pay attention to this, Romans 6:14 (KJV) 14 For sin shall not have dominion [rule] over you: for [because] ye are not under the law, but under grace. So, two questions… 1. what is the evidence, proof that you’re under Grace? - Sin does not rule over me… Correct! 2. Next question, what is the evidence or proof that you’re still under the law? - Sin rules over me! Absolutely right.. law is old covenant… what is the proof that a lot of people reading this or hearing this are under the old covenant? Sin rules over you… Sin rules over you. We’re not talking about sinless perfection… (1 John 1:8) nobody is sinless perfect… Christ alone is… there’s a difference, between falling hundred times a day, walking in sin… and making a mistake.. messing up… and being grieved in chastised as it says in Hebrews, being brought back to the narrow path… Beloved, Being redeemed makes you zealous of good works… in other words, you have a burning passion of fire that says, I wanna serve you, I want to obey you, I want to do good works, Oh Lord, I want to serve you… That’s the mark of the New Birth, not only absolute complete forgiveness of every sin no matter how dark. But, Redemption from a disobedient lifestyle.. Redemption from your old cultural lifestyle… sin does not rule you… So, when sin rules over you beloved, you are under the old covenant, you are under law… you have not understood grace at all…

[@Pardonedpreacher]

You don’t understand the 2 natures of the believer. Sin has no dominion over the new birth (the new nature) for it is sinless born of God the moment you trust Christ alone as your saviour. The old nature that is our flesh is wretched and has no good thing in it! If true Christian’s we’re to have good works as proof than who would be saved. Look at the churches like Corinth with many carnal Christian’s doing sins that the Bible called worse than the gentiles yet they were believers and saved! Works may justify men but not before God Romans 4:1-5 KJV

[@nemochuggles]

Agreed!

[@TheJoeschmoe777]

"There are people in this room who will be monsters in hell" That doesn't even make sense. Some people are transformed into monsters when they go to hell? Try finding THAT in the Bible...

[@Slapjack308]

One of the scariest gospels is the repent and believe gospel that is so popular. People like Ray comfort preach this and they backload the gospel. Romans 11:6 says it’s either grace or works but it is not both

[@2Chronicles714_]

If you've ever read the new testament Repent and believe is literally the gospel.

[@Slapjack308]

@@2Chronicles714_ Paul says we’re justified when we believe not when we turn from our sins. I could never repent perfectly and I’ll always sin and mess up but God demands perfection so I trust only in the one who was perfect. That’s literally the gospel.

[@thomasmarsden2276]

Yes. Ray Comfort, Paul Washer and those like them are responsible for alot of confusion, fear and anxiety - causing people to doubt their salvation by taking their eyes of the Saviour and onto themselves. Lordship salvation is heresy.

[@Slapjack308]

@@thomasmarsden2276 couldn’t agree more. This type of teaching produces either legalism and doubt or self righteousness, both are equally terrible

[@2Chronicles714_]

​@Christ.did.it.all712 Obviously Paul assumes the person has repented of sin as he too preached. Acts 20:21 21I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus. Very clear Paul says they must Repent of sin and have faith in Jesus. Here Paul recounts his conversion with Jesus Acts 26:18-20 to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, SO THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ 19“So then, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the vision from heaven. 20First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and then to the Gentiles, I preached that they should REPENT AND TURN TO GOD [Repent and believe) and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds. Jesus and Peter said the same Repent of sin and believe. Throughout scripture Repentance always precedes Faith.

[@drjimmymac]

Well done, Bob.

[@Trey_Alexander]

lol. Bob has no idea what he’s talking about.

[@jimfarnell5813]

And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who BECAME to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, - 1 Corinthians 1:30 Notice “became”- past tense, already done… And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ… for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. - Philippians 1:6, 2:13… It appears to me that it is God who’s doing all the work & my job is to simply follow His lead… Men always want to make it hard work so they and others can ‘humbly’ boast on themselves… Jesus condemned the Pharisees for laying burdens on the people, reminding us His yoke is and His burden light…

[@haroldmcbroom7807]

There is also this verse. *THE WORD OF GOD WORKS EFFECTIVELY WITHIN THOSE WHO BELIEVE* *1 Thessalonians 2:13 (nkjv)* _13 For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe._ To those who believe, more will be given, but to those who do not believe, what little they have, will be taken.

[@gregorylatta8159]

Calvinism is self contradicting!!!

[@RegularCupOfJoe]

Interesting that Washer has an invitation at the end of his message at all. Is it for the regenerate only? How does Washer know one is regenerate? Is there an in-between state between regeneration and salvation? If salvation immediately follows regeneration, then an invitation is not needed at all. Thank God for John 3:16... whosoever _believes_ on Him shall have everlasting life. No pretzel logic needed.

[@commoncentsflips4030]

I'm not a Calvinist, but I think Washer would say - he doesn't know who the elect are in the room. If God deals with their heart and they repent, they are the elect.

[@2Chronicles714_]

Millions of people know John 3:16 Believing in John 3:16 will not save anyone. We must repent of sin and believe.

[@mikeha]

@@commoncentsflips4030 yes and then if they don't continue in the faith then it turned out they were never regenerate to begin with.

[@Ruben27780]

@@mikehain other words, you gotta earn salvation.

[@wib50]

​@2Chronicles714_ so you have stopped all sins and are now perfect??

[@jeffdove6917]

Paul Washer is right. The easy believism is a false teaching. Jesus said we must remain grafted in and not separate from him. WORK out your salvation with FEAR AND TREMBLING. THE ROAD IS NARROW AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT. IT IS ONLY BY THE GRACE AND MERCY OF GOD THAT ANYONE WILL BE SAVED.

[@tommyanderson4992]

💯💯💯

[@davidchupp4460]

Whatever. The hard part is to get past all the false teachers and actually understand it’s that easy.

[@ok-qt4kr]

What is it - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life ?

[@tommyanderson4992]

@@ok-qt4kr “Confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord. Believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead and you will be saved”.

[@ok-qt4kr]

@@tommyanderson4992 Romans is written to the already born again brethren in a sanctification Discipleship setting . Not an Evangelistic context unlike the book of John explicitly framed as Evangelistic (20:31) . The purpose statement is undeniable . John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:10-14,5:24,6:28-47,11:23-27,20:31 clearly articulate the object and content of one's faith whereby one is born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life . "Calling on the Lord" is a prerogative of the born again believer , to be delivered from temporal wrath . Further , confession with the physical mouth is works , not faith . "Saved" simply means delivered . Saved from what (?) is determined by context . 10:9-14 makes it clear that belief is first : "How then can they call on the one they have not believed in?" Cart and Horse need proper alignment . Many will say "in that day , Lord , Lord..." So , simply saying "Jesus is Lord" clearly isn't an Evangelistic mandate whereby one is born again . Nor is belief in His resurrection similiarly the object and content of one's faith whereby one is born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life. The disciples were born again (John 1 & 2) well before understanding His Redemptive work & His intrinsic attributes (John 20) .

[@JPMartinezBlog]

¡Thank you, Bob!

[@jeremymwilliams]

According to this Bob, we don't need to repent or believe. YIKES!!!

[@GESvids]

What Does It Mean to "BELIEVE" in Jesus? by Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKC3Z5-rjKusnaM What does "Believe" mean, when used in terms of "believing in Jesus"? Is there a special kind of "belief" or "faith"? What makes "believing in Jesus" saving? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society answers these questions.

[@karinecarde1254]

Washer is a worker of wickedness, a veritable wolf preying on people. He is horrible.

[@TheElizabethashby]

SPOT ON

[@dafrancis42]

Thank God for faithful teachers such as Paul Washer! What he teaches is consistent with Scripture! The easy way to explain these apparent contradictions and inconsistencies is your piecemeal presentation of Washer, Calvin, and the true Gospel. Your heart would not be moved to call out for God’s grace unless he had first called you. We work out our salvation, because Christ completed the work of justification and the Holy Spirit is completing the work of sanctification. We do good works, because God has prepared them beforehand that we would walk in them. ALL by Grace (God doing) THROUGH faith (us doing, as faith without works is dead). Not inconsistent, it’s truth; though it seems to be foolishness to the worldly man.

[@kristovposlanik8235]

john 12:32

[@ritchievernon8099]

We don't live under the law we live under grace! We're guilty of all if we break one law! Grace is unending forgiveness we didn't earn, and as long as we pray forgiveness we are saved! But we got to repent as well! I wouldn't want anything keeping me from God daily! Knowing Christ daily is like knowing a good wife daily! 🙏🎆⚖️😊

[@stevehammond8393]

great synopsis of these contradictory statements. Thx

[@joseywales9726]

one of your misses is the difference between justification (moment in time) and sanctification (on going process)

[@andygarcia2113]

I mean scripture does say “ without holiness and peace with all men no one will see the lord” Paul doesn’t say anything incorrect here

[@thomasmarsden2276]

It does not say ' you will not see the Lord.' It says in Hebrews 12 ' Pursue peace with all men (not God) and holiness, without which NO ONE will see the Lord.' Collossians 3 goes into how we put off wrong attitudes ' wrath, slander , evil speaking ' etc and to put on right attitudes ' love kindness and humility ' and that links to Hebrews 12 ' pursue peace with all men and holiness ' If we are growing in holiness by showing the character of Jesus by the way we live that's how people see him. But our holy living does not get us into heaven, rather it's Christ's holiness and righteousness imputed to us that guarantees we will be in heaven and see Jesus Hebrews 10v10 ' And by that will WE HAVE been sanctified through the offering of the BODY OF JESUS CHRIST ONCE FOR ALL.' 2Corinthians 5v21 ' He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in him. '

[@mikeha]

yes but the only holiness we can attain is imputed holiness as a free gift from Jesus to us when we believe. Nobody is capable of attaining holiness by their works.

[@andygarcia2113]

@@mikeha yes and amen Christ is our holiness but their still the matter of growing that that holiness

[@2Chronicles714_]

@thomasmarsden2276 Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and TO BE HOLY Without HOLINESS, NO ONE WILL SEE THE LORD. This verse alone destroys the false message that hoe a believer lives is irrelevant to being saved.

[@thomasmarsden2276]

@@2Chronicles714_ never said how we live is irrelevant. How we live does matter, not for salvation (unless you believe salvation depends on lifestyle and not by grace through faith) rather how we live certainly does matter for being a witness for Jesus which is what it says and means - Hebrews 12v14' pursue peace with all men (not God) and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.' It does not say ' ... without holiness you will not see the Lord.' Our salvation/peace with God does not depend on lifestyle but by faith - Romans5v1 ' Therefore having been justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.' Hebrews 12v14 is talking about pursuing peace with all 'men'. We are saved/justified through faith alone in Jesus - Romans 3v20-28, John 6v28-47, Ephesians 2v8-9 plus many more that destroy the lie that we are saved by works/our performance. You cannot therefore twist Hebrews 12v14 to mean salvation depends on how we live as many scriptures clearly tell us its through faith alone. Scripture has to be backed by scripture amd scripture can NEVER contradict scripture

[@N8R_Quizzie]

It sounds like you're just really confused about what Paul is saying. Only God can change a person so only the person that responds to Paul's pleading is someone who responds to God. Paul doesn't speak from his own wisdom but from God's word. The only one who asks for repentance is someone who has already been affected by God's Spirit. Paul is the instrument that God uses to reach His sheep. Also he doesn't put any qualifications on going to heaven except for grace through faith. It's just that God is so powerful that through the life of a believer they will do work. There has never been any true believer has has never done good works, not that it saves them, but it is the outcome of saving faith. I hope that clarifies. He's not being (or trying) to be contradictory but he is pleading that they repent (but first that God grants them repentance).

[@demarleroux3766]

Alas Bob, preaching that tickle the ears will not lead to regeneration.

[@GESvids]

What Must I Do to be Saved? - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2HXiGenoLKGj7c Have you ever wondered what you must do to be saved or have everlasting life? Throughout time and in the Bible, people have asked this important question. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society shares what the Bible has to say about this question, and what you should do if you want to know the answer. Is "Saving Faith" More Than "Mental Assent"? - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZPGdJJqopegpac What is "Saving Faith"? Is Saving Faith simply a persuasion, mental assent or conviction of the truth of the saving message, whoever believes in Jesus has everlasting life? Does Saving Faith require more than mental assent? Does Saving Faith require an additional step of commitment, obedience, or decision? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society answers these questions and clears up the confusion regarding what is "Saving Faith".

[@lessummers5738]

I dont know how I got here or what you believe but what that man said was 100 percent contradiction wow He said you can not seek after God you can not cry out to God unless God takes that stone heart out of you then turns around and says if anybody dont know God cry out to God save me wow and he says at the end will you believe in Christ will you repent everything this man said is a contradiction wow

[@GiftofGrace88]

John 6 28 “What can we do to perform the works of God?” they asked. 29 Jesus replied, “This is the work of God-that you believe in the One He has sent.”

[@Terrylb285]

God did not choose me I used my freewill and chose God and his way of salvation , why do people have a problem with that.

[@RustyCreek-qb6gm]

That goes against scripture

[@Terrylb285]

@@RustyCreek-qb6gm CHOOSE this day whom you will serve Joshua 24:15 .verse 21 we will (choose) to serve the Lord,

[@RustyCreek-qb6gm]

@@Terrylb285 John 6:44 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. No man can get saved (believe in Jesus) without God first choosing to draw him to Jesus

[@mdmclaughlin28]

Jesus does say that few are saved Mt 7:13,14 and to strive to enter through the narrow gate!!!!!!

[@goodshorts]

What is the narrow gate? Works or Jesus? John 14:6. Works is obedience, service and discipleship, not salvation.

[@Bert-k9j]

The narrow gate is HIM and HIM alone

[@didw00d74]

@@Bert-k9j 100%

[@billmartinn9851]

Salvation is available to all. God does not arbitrarily pick and choose who goes to Heaven and who goes to hell. This is where Washer and Calvinism, reformed theology, is biblically inorrect. WHO are the elect? Whosoever will!

[@mikelyons2831]

Calvinism & Calvinist Pastors conflate things & contradicts itself constantly, why... because it's another gospel.

[@scottk7887]

Mathew 22:29

[@slimwhitman9338]

You have misunderstood the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints. A saint once saved by grace is sanctified and perseveres to the end by that very grace. He does not persevere *in order to be saved* but rather he perseveres *because* he is truly a child of God. So you see perseverance is a manifestation of true saving grace through faith, not a means of attaining salvation. There is no contradiction in anything Washer said here…only a misunderstanding by the presenter.

[@mikeha]

there is no guarantee that a believer will persevere to the end of their life in fatih or works. The Bible specifically says that if we believe not, he abideth faithful. He cannot deny himself. POTS means that nobody can be sure they are saved , you have to "hope for the best" that you get in. The Bible says we can know for sure right now. And that's because perseverance is not required. only a one time moment of belief in the gospel.

[@stickmanbarr]

Did Ananias and Saphira perservere?

[@nemochuggles]

Agreed!

[@coreyfleig2139]

This channel just demonstrates how little you understand sanctification, and how little you listen to others. Nor do I understand orthodox Christianity.

[@mikeha]

sanctification is a one time event, not a lifelong process. We are sanctified at the moment of belief. We do not need to perfect the flesh, that is impossible and pointless.

[@coreyfleig2139]

@@mikeha then I gladly reject your understanding of what sanctification is. You're just a dualist, which is orthodox heresy.

[@TheJpep2424]

Love Paul Washer. One of the best preachers in the world.

[@standaman378]

Washer is a false prophet!

[@2Chronicles714_]

​@standaman378 Because you only agree with teachers who tickle your ears. Washer tells it the way the Bible does

[@standaman378]

@@2Chronicles714_ nope, you are a false prophet too!

[@MLTDPT]

Amen my friend.

[@standaman378]

@@2Chronicles714_ read the following verses! Here is Paul calling a believer who fornicated SAVED man until the day of Christ! You are selfrighteous pharisee, your works of the law (changed behavior) will be rejected! 1cor5 1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus

[@dank2476]

Faith without good works is dead so good works is important. It is only through faith first then good works can be produced.

[@kevinhabener1279]

Another Great video that I gave a thumbs up to. I don't swear by Paul Washer as one who has it right. And it's very much for the same reasons stated here. And I've heard him many times say repent then say it again immediately and add the words "of sin" or "of your sins" to it. Yeah, I've heard a hand full of younger guys who do swear by him as one who teaches the one true gospel and also would say that it's repent-of-your-sins and believe on Christ. Repent -of-sins is what we absolutely should do when we are saved and not to get saved or be saved or stay saved.

[@2Chronicles714_]

Jesus Peter and Paul said Repent of sin first and believe.

[@olivierdel9567]

Could someone explain to me biblically the place of good works in the Christian life ? I already know I am not saved truth my works but by faith alone, but I would like some clarification concerning that. Thank you for your time.

[@Funkydood]

The words "alone" and/or "only" are added by men. Go to Romans and re-read it!

[@Georgep-ry9np]

Where do you get that? Do you know Greek?

[@MLTDPT]

Amen Paul Washer. Amen! Evidence of a changed heart is a changed person! The Lord loves me and corrects me and prompts me to change my ways every single day! You’d have to ignore much of scripture to deny this… to think that God allows you to believe in His Son, checks you off His list and forgets about you. He is the true Shepherd, the sheep know His voice and they follow Him closely for safety and instruction. He is perfecting us over time. Preparing us for whatever job He intends for each of us to do during eternity. I encourage anyone here to go to the Bible itself. Ask the Lord’s Spirit to guide you and He will show you the truth. I pray this for you in Jesus’ holy and mighty name. Amen.

[@dedios03]

The word is full of people who didn't change. How much change, by the way? Where's the mercy, the forgiveness, and the understanding that people aren't robots and everyone's at different places in growth and understanding. This makes you a judge of people's works from a half law that you don't even meet. People can have 0 "change" and still be saved. Because what is change? Who gets to define..you?

[@stickmanbarr]

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved." Acts 16:31

[@scottk7887]

People can not have 0 change according to the Bible, read John 3 and 2 Corinthians 5:17, Ephesians 2:4,5, Mt. 3:8. Please read your Bible!

[@scottk7887]

God gets to define you!

[@wib50]

So what would your message to somone whom God hasn't change thier heart? To mlt dpt

[@lessummers5738]

Romans 10:17 Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God what he said was backwards he says you can not hear God I think the man is confused

[@krisjustin3884]

Good observation.

[@michaelparker6763]

God bless you brother. The bible says that God is not the author of confusion. PW is.

[@tonosegovia9797]

I’m going to die being a free grace believer for ever I love it , do you guys support the miracles and healings are for today?

[@2Chronicles714_]

If you die an unrepentant sinner you will die in your sins and be cast into the lake of fire.

[@tonosegovia9797]

@@2Chronicles714_ so your answer is that you hope you are not find to be a sinner in the last day of your life ?

[@2Chronicles714_]

​@tonosegovia9797 My sins are forgiven because I've acknowledged that I'm a hopeless sinner and made a decision to change my mind and turn away from my sinfulled life, did a 180° turn to living for and serving Jesus in obedience. Not perfect, if I do sin rather than ignore it or pretend it's automatically forgiven I will confess it ask for forgiveness , continuing to strive to walk closer to Jesus each day.

[@colel.1560]

Not trying to discourage you but your sins are forgiven because of Christs finished work on the cross. He’s not asking you to willow in Self pity. Though I think for some, this may be a good thing for spiritual healing. Not required for salvation. Just believe and trust in the finished work and rest in it.

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@colel.1560 Where does it say exactly that? I have never seen it.

[@grizz4489]

Mr. Washer presents teachings that are contradictions, false, confusing, unbiblical and lead people to doubt and fear. Thank you GES for bringing to people the message of Life, precisely and clearly.

[@jamesvan2201]

Yep...I was one of them. That's how calvinism gets you. It tells you warm fuzzy things to get you hooked and then it tells you the opposite of those things to confuse you and make you think you need calvinism to be saved. It causes extreme grief and anxiety and fear (not biblical fear of god). Like he's some terrible tyrant who is constantly glaring down at us.

[@2Chronicles714_]

I'm not a Calvinist, I've listened to Paul Washer quite a bit and he teaches the gospel correctly.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

​​@@2Chronicles714_Then I gotta ask: What is the Gospel? I'm actually asking what do you think the Gospel is?

[@2Chronicles714_]

@bugsocsollie1694 The major theme of the entire Bible is God calling on a fallen sinfulled man to humble himself and acknowledge he is a hopeless sinner in need of a Savior. Repentance means that you realize that you are a guilty vile sinner in the presence of God,that you deserve the wrath and punishment of God. That you are hell bound. It means that you begin to realize that this thing called sin is in you and that you long to get rid of it,and that you turn your back on it in every shape and form you renounce the world,whatever the cost,the world in its mind and outlook as well as its practices and you deny yourself and take up your cross and go after Christ. Your nearest and dearest and the whole world may call you a fool or say you have religious mania. You may have to suffer financially, but it makes no difference. That is repentance. It becomes an ongoing way of life. The repentance that starts at salvation starts a progressive lifelong process of confessing sin. 1 John 1:9 we go on confessing our sin. The active continuous attitude of repentance produces the poverty of the spirit,the mourning, the meekness that characterizes true believers in the Beatitudes of Matthew 5. Repentance produces a new way of life,not just a different opinion of Christ,a new way of life. Those who heard Jesus preach knew what He was calling for. He wasn't asking them just to change their opinion about Him. They knew what Isaiah said when Isaiah preached. This is what Isaiah 1:16 says:wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight,stop doing wrong.17 Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.18 "Come now, let us settle the matter", says the Lord."Though your sins are like scarlet,they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson,they shall be like wool. If you wash yourselves,if you make yourselves clean the progression begins internally and then manifests itself in attitudes and actions. Isaiah 55:6-7 Seek the Lord while He may be found,call ye upon him while He is near: 7 Let the wicked forsake his way,and the unrighteous man his thought:and let him return unto the Lord,and he will have mercy on him;and to our God,for He will abundantly pardon. He'll pardon when the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man forsakes his thoughts and turns to the Lord. 2 Chronicles 7:14 IF my people which are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face and TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS then I will hear from heaven and FORGIVE THEIR SINS and heal their land. We absolutely must repent and believe. A claim of belief alone will not save.

[@grizz4489]

2 Chronicles, i am familiar with mr. Washer's teachings. May i ask you, which gospel are you referring to ? There are references to many in the new testament. Which gospel ?

[@galewollenberg786]

I think you got him figured out.

[@thomasmarsden2276]

The gospell is simple- Acts 16v31 ' Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved... '

[@2Chronicles714_]

The gospel is simple repent and have faith. Acts 20:21 I (Paul) have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

[@davidchupp4460]

@@2Chronicles714_believers all have automatically repented. That’s why it’s used interchangeably throughout scripture. You just can’t stop can you?

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@davidchupp4460 Is what false teacher Charlie Bing told you?

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@davidchupp4460 If believers have automatically repented the why did Jesus,John the Baptist Peter and Paul say repent and believe? Why even say repent at all if all that is required is to claim to believe?

[@davidchupp4460]

@@2Chronicles714_ because multiple places it says believe only including the entire book of John. Other places it’s repentance mentioned without the word belief. Putting the two together doesn’t negate the fact that repentance is the negative and believe is the positive expression of turning to Jesus in faith.

[@samuelrosenbalm]

God is light, and in Him there is NO DARKNESS. We are saved by grace through faith, not of works. But read, you know, the rest of the New Testament. True salvation produces a changed heart. A tree is known by it's fruit. Loving one's own sinful life to the degree that one embraces a teaching where they get to keep their sinful life tells me all I need to know about that person's heart. Unregenerate. They exchange the truth for a lie. They love their lives to the death.

[@stickmanbarr]

It is a false claim that Free Grace teaches a person gets to "keep thier sinful life." Strawman.

[@samuelrosenbalm]

@@stickmanbarr I have heard free gracers say exactly that. I know of a free gracer who glorifies porn, and free grace is the excuse he gives. I know of a woman who refuses to stop committing adultery, and free grace is the excuse given. Free grace even teaches that once a person believes, even if they become a mass murdering atheist and die in that, they still go to heaven. Another gospel. Wicked to the core. The truth is we are saved by grace through faith, and that such a salvation is always visible. No fruit, no root.

[@stickmanbarr]

@@samuelrosenbalm Sources? I would like to see in writing or video people who hold to free grace theology say it is acceptable to continue in sin. I don't mean progressive liberals like Methodists or other liberal protestants. I personally have never heard a free grace pastor preach, "you're saved by grace so you can sin all you want." I would agree that a saved person can still commit murder (David?). Of course, not that it is endorsed, but that it is possible.

[@NOTOFWORKS289]

Monsters in hell??? 😂 wow he really like to beat the sheep huh! Smh

[@johnmoore6930]

So you teach decisional regeneration?

[@GESvids]

"Free Grace Gospel Misunderstandings! (Decision for Christ and Sinner's Prayer)" by Ken Yates kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ2VZoCIaNB7kK8 "Is "Saving Faith" More Than "Mental Assent"?" by Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZPGdJJqopegpac

[@id744]

Wow. I've rarely seen someone misrepresent another's position to such a degree and put words into their mouth they never uttered. Hebrews 12:7-8 It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. If God is not sanctifying you, you are not his child.

[@Kman.]

Typical comment from a Calvinist, & _P U L E E Z E_ don't take offense at that. I just replied to s/one above, that when speaking with a Calvinist, they invariably will say s/thing like, "That's not what was meant...you just don't u/stand, etc..."

[@id744]

@@Kman. What would you expect when multiple people with differing opinions analyze a text? Both sides obviously believe the other is misunderstanding or misinterpreting it. What I initially said was he was misrepresenting his opposition

[@christiandam6803]

So because of 1 John 5:11 and the understanding which it gives us about what it means to believe in Him (that believing on the Son means believing the record which means believing that He has given us eternal life)that is found in John 6:47, John 3:16 and other verses God has promised us eternal life?

[@JMC5013]

He fears the Lord. Preach, preach... God bless you, Paul Washer.

[@nemochuggles]

NOT EVERYTHING God tells us to do has to do with salvation…believing is for salvation, Yes. Ephesians 2:8-9. But that doesn’t mean we get a license to sin - we need to posture our hearts to repent and try our best to walk like Christ did. NOT for our salvation, but because it is right. God hates sin so we should try our best to avoid sin, right?? I thought we would all agree on that…

[@RustyCreek-qb6gm]

Yes but those who have a false doctrine will hate that truth and say your teaching works based salvation. What you said is true

[@nemochuggles]

@@RustyCreek-qb6gm I agree - all I hear from channels like this is that we pay God lip service, but with our actions we live as the world does. God bless you Rusty Creek guy 💙

[@ryanbagwell7714]

Wow. If we break one law we are a law breaker, dim message from Mr washer

[@2Chronicles714_]

Let's continue in unrepentant sin so grace abounds. Romans 6:1-2

[@thomasmarsden2276]

All messages from lordship people are dim, doom and gloom

[@2Chronicles714_]

@thomasmarsden2276 Not only must we confess sin,(1 John 1:9) but we must forsake it. Run away from it. One old definition of repentance is to leave the sin I've done before and show I've earnestly grieved by doing it no more. If a man is genuinely born again, all old things are passed away, all things have become new( 2 Corinthians 5:17) Too many today are preaching a perverted gospel to make it as palatable as possible. They give them a shot of love and grace without any warning of a looming judgment of hell for any who think because of grace they can continue living no different than before. Those who believe that a change of conduct [Repenting of sin] is works are making our Lord's death on the cross meaningless He didn't die for sins to give a green light to live like a demon. A rebirth in Jesus means a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit, a new person If you love anything more than Jesus, it's an idol. If Jesus preached the way many do today, they wouldn't have crucified Him

[@thomasmarsden2276]

@@2Chronicles714_ what you call a perverted gospell is ' lordship salvation' no where does scripture say ' repent of sins( stop sinning) before you can trust in Jesus for salvation. Jesus did not say to the criminal on the cross, ' have you repented of this or that, are you sorry for this or sorry for that' no once the criminal on the cross acknowledged he was a sinner and that he needed a Saviour he called on Jesus and Jesus IMMEDIATELY accepted him. Your clearly talking about false gospell to put wrong conditions on people before they can come to Christ for salvation, the same false gospell that Washer, Comfort and Macarthur teach. I strongly believe EVERY believer should aim to turn away from sin and aim to live like Jesus- Romans 6v11 , Ephesians 5v1. But the point I'm making is that only one can do that if they have been born again, not before. Salvation is through faith in Jesus alone and not by how good you are at turning from sin, amd a believer no matter how much sin they have a struggle with can have perfect assurance of salvation - 1John 5v10-13 '... these things I write to you who BELIEVE in the name of the Son of God that you may KNOW that you have eternal life.' Romans 4v5 ' Now to him who worketh NOT but BEILIEVETH in him who justifies the ungodly, his FATH is counted for righteousness.' We all grow at different paces and it is not for us to judge if someone is saved or not by how much progress they are making or by how much they have changed. Trusting in Christ and his redemptive work on the cross alone makes one a christian. Yes the cross frees us from the power of sin so we can live in victory (as every believer should strive to do) Romans 6v1-11 but it also frees us from the penalty of our sins- Hebrews 10v14, Romans 5v9. And those who have simply believed the gospell/ trusted in Jesus and his work on the cross alone are guaranteed these benefits. 1 John 3v4 ' sin is transgression of the law. ' So to say that turning from sin is required to go to heaven your really saying follow the law to be saved. Turning from sin is therefore works, common sense should also tell you that turning from sin definitely requires work, and finally again for the millionth time we are not saved by works- Ephesians 2v8-9 and therefore not saved by keeping the law/turning from sin - Galatians 2v16

[@Covelio]

Look up dispensations you fool!@@2Chronicles714_

[@crossing3790]

that one drop of lie poisons the whole cup

[@jerrypost6910]

It's obvious you didn't understand the message and you just want to form your own narrative from this sermon

[@ok-qt4kr]

Only way into His Kingdom is a 100% level of righteousness that "exceeds the Scribes and Pharisees" , who Washer clearly has as his ideological mentors . That "righteousness" is imputed only to those who have believed in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Everlasting Life , apart from perseverance till death in an unknowable level (%) of hopefully good enough obedience/fruit/behavioral performance (works) , as Washer so clearly teaches . Gotta be like a child instead , who's not looking to one's performance , but rather to the One who finished all the work of Redemption that His endless Gift can be totally apart from any form of self agrandizement , or boasting of any sort (Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6 ; Titus 3:5 ; Phillipians 3:9 ; book of Galatians) . Jesus "rejoiced greatly in the Spirit" , thanking the Father that He hides from the "wise and intelligent" , what He reveals to the little "babes" ; totally open to His merit free Gift from the Loving Giver of Life who forever quenches the thirst for eternity with one sip of His Water , without cost .

[@paulsu1379]

Salvation leads to Sanctification; Sanctification is the proof of Salvation. Examine yourself and see if Sanctification is taking place in your life.

[@SSNBN777]

1 Corinthians 4:3-5 GNT Now, I am not at all concerned about being judged by you or by any human standard; *_I don't even pass judgment on myself._* [4] *_My conscience is clear, but that does not prove that I am really innocent. The Lord is the one who passes judgment on me._* [5] So you should not pass judgment on anyone before the right time comes. Final judgment must wait until the Lord comes; he will bring to light the dark secrets and expose the hidden purposes of people's minds. And then all will receive from God the praise they deserve.

[@lily_of_the_valley-ooo]

I listened to P.W's testimony and sadly there is no biblical substance in it. just a whining emotional talk... not good. nothing about what he believes, no grace either...

[@patrickparker8417]

" Whining " , ain't that the truth .

[@datchet11]

What does James 2:14-26 mean?

[@GESvids]

Do You Fear a Dead Faith? - James 2:14-26 by Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2bTZpeMiqp9qbs Is the Faith that Saves Ever Alone? - James 2 - Ken Yates kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5PQfnmfndeel9U

[@mrnoedahl]

It is by faith alone, but faith is never alone.

[@andygarcia2113]

Yea I love that and it true if all you have is faith and nothing to show for it what the heck do you have

[@bugsocsollie1694]

Yeah but it means big trouble when people teach James' faith and works stuff (meant for Israel) to the Body of Christ Church. You get a lot of pretenders pretending they have faith because of their works they put on display. They act one way when people are watching and act another way when no one is watching. I was such a person before I understood that it was Grace that saved me. I know now that Grace is my only Hope for salvation. Thank you Lord.

[@ok-qt4kr]

How many works/fruit/obedience till death would give you - or anyone - doubtless certitude of having behaved "well enough" to gain entrance into His Kingdom ?

[@2Chronicles714_]

The Apostle Paul said 1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Paul didn't say Jesus brings his flesh under subjection he said I keep it. Its a joint effort Jesus will help but we must be willing. Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

[@kristovposlanik8235]

paul is talking here about service not salvation

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@kristovposlanik8235 What does that mean?

[@kristovposlanik8235]

@@2Chronicles714_ are you serious?

[@2Chronicles714_]

@@kristovposlanik8235 Yes

[@kristovposlanik8235]

@@2Chronicles714_ paul is talking about his service as an apostle to the gentiles (starting at verse 16.) he is running - that is service, running for a prize. he has to beat flesh if he wanna serve the lord as an apostle. if not, he would be castaway aka lost his service as an apoatle, not salvation simple as that. same you have to do. fight flesh everyday if you wanna serve the lord. not for salvation, but for a reward

[@matthewcarbone2201]

How about Ray Comfort?

[@GESvids]

Ray Comfort and The Way of the Master: Zeal Without Knowledge in Evangelism - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6LPfmSBqNJjb5Y Do Ray Comfort and The Way of the Master display zeal without knowledge in their evangelism? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society looks at how Ray Comfort evangelizes and whether Ray Comfort's evangelistic methods and message are Jesus' methods and message Ray Comfort & Todd Friel - False Converts as Dogs in Vomit and Pigs in Mud - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoWrYX99ecZ_prM Are false converts to Christianity like dogs in vomit or pigs in mud? Is the test of a false conversion the lack of fruit or obedience in one's life? Is the presence of sin evidence that one is a false convert. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society examines the claims of Ray Comfort and Todd Friel and tells us how we can know for sure that we have everlasting life and that we are not a false convert.

[@JokersWild139]

Paul still has doubt. He isnt assured just like RC Sproul who said he was 99% sure he would wake up in Heaven as he lay on his death bed.

[@NorCalGospelPreacher]

The only Calvinists that were not double tonged as far as I know who preached the free grace gospel of the bible were C.I. Scofield, Lewis Sperry Chafer, and R. T. Kendall (still alive).

[@Kman.]

WOW...Scofield was a Calvinist? *lol* Seriously, never knew or heard that. I've got a few Scofiled bibles in my possession, but it's just that they happen to be Scofield, & I've never even read ANY of the comments/commentary. I'm guessing the Calvinist position comes out in some of the notes he's got in there? Also... I only know of Chafer & the school, & they're not Calvinist, so THAT surprises me too. As far as the Kendall person you noted, I've never even HEARD of him~:) *MARANATHA!*

[@NorCalGospelPreacher]

@@Kman. Yes, for some people it is surprising that Lewis Sperry Chafer and Scofield were Calvinists, they were both Presbyterians. R. T. Kendall is a great free grace teacher, he is a Calvinists as well as a Charismatic (like me, although I'm not a Calvinist).

[@Kman.]

@@NorCalGospelPreacher I won't argue with you about Chafer, but I just _speed-read_ a short bio on him, & nothing mentions Calvinism...I'll dig a little deeper, ESPECIALLY since he was co-founder of DTS (NOT Calvinistic), & the Chafer Seminary as I noted is not Calvinistic either. Interesting to say the least. Then too, I read that Walvoord, J Vernon McGee, Ryrie, Dwight Pentecost, Howard Hendricks were students of his, and *NONE* of them Calvinists.

[@NorCalGospelPreacher]

@@Kman. I have Lewis Sperry Chafer's systematic theology and in it, you can see his Calvinists leanings. Originally DTS was a Presbyterian school from what I heard, but yes you're right many that come out of DTS are not Calvinists.

[@StevieDxYz]

Do you think repentance is a work?

[@1804-rocks]

Bob, you are right. But I still think there's nothing wrong with the 5 points of CALVINISM. I find no wrong because that's the Gospel. That's because I was saved before I knew what CALVINISM is about. Till our last breath, our flesh cannot serve God. That's why we are under that GRACE. If our flesh would leave us, our soul which is already SANCTIFIED with JESUS' blood (Hebrews 10:10), won't need GRACE anymore. To me, Grace is grace because there is an opposition our sinful flesh. Despite wearing flesh, since Grace is given to us, we can say with all BOLDESS, that we are REDEEMED, we are MADE RIGHTEOUS; not for one day, two days..but for ETERNITY...having obtained ETERNAL REDEMPTION...TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE ARE ETERNALLY RIGHTEOUS is powered by FAITH that came to us from God's Holy Spirit.Yes, to be able to take rest in the FINISHED work of Christ is Grace.. to be able to have the FAITH & to have the courage to confess that we have been made HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS is sure GRACE. ~~a brother from North East India 🇮🇳.

[@stickmanbarr]

Calvinism teaches there are some people for whom it is impossible to be saved. It relies on incorrect theological logical syllogisms instead of careful exegesis.

[@1804-rocks]

@@stickmanbarr that's the misinterpretation of calvinism.

[@1804-rocks]

@@stickmanbarr that's the misinterpretation of calvinism.

[@stickmanbarr]

@@1804-rocks So you are saying that 'unconditional election' does not teach that there are some people who cannot respond to the gospel (unelect) even when presented with it?

[@TonyTaylor-j1r]

Disappointing to hear fellow brethren’s criticize one another

[@eddw3]

Yup. It’s filled with contradictions

[@dwashington1333]

This is neo Calvinism, not the original Calvinism

[@krisjustin3884]

Agree. It’s based on works, not grace. Original Calvinism stressed salvation by faith and expected sanctification to follow without worrying about it being sufficient enough for salvation as the initial act of faith was the essential element of being saved. It was probably quite similar to today’s free grace teaching in terms of how we’re saved.

[@evanwildermann7034]

​@@krisjustin3884I don't know have you heard some of the things that Calvin said I think this is more like a return to true Calvinism

[@2009bishop]

I didnt hear Paul say it was to get into the kingdom..

[@danielbu2611]

Personally, I disagree on the first point and would say that you misunderstand what faith is truly along with most of the church. To explain hopefully briefly, we automatically live out what we truly believe. If you say that a lifeboat will save you if your ship is sinking, but then refuse out of fear to get in one when your ship is sinking, I'm going to say that you don't really believe that lifeboats save. This is the difference between saving faith and dead faith that can't save anyone as James refers to it. Hebrews 11 clearly lays out faith (trusting God's words) as something that causes action. By trusting, people suffered, endured, overthrew armies, offered sacrifices, and even died. By trusting, Peter walked on water having trusted first without feeling "firm" water first, no proof. His miraculous sign would never have happened if he didn't believe without doubting. In fact, the second he focused on the waves, his miracle went away because his faith went away. This is what true faith is. We as a church better start believing the God who cannot lie and is trustworthy. On the second, I do not agree in the total depravity of man, but that no one is righteous on their own and all have fallen short of the goal.

[@stickmanbarr]

If works and sanctification were automation, then Paul wouldn't have written about 50% of his letters. He constantly admonished believers to "walk worthy" to "put off the old man" to "cease from sin." Why would he have needed to write those exhortations if sanctification was so automatic? It's not automatic. There is "conversion" and then there is "discipleship." Washer confuses these two things and in essence starts adding works as a condition for conversion.

[@danielbu2611]

@@stickmanbarr I didn't say that sanctification is instant. I was explaining faith which is something we grow in. As we learn to trust more, how we react to the world changes naturally. The point of action is the "test" of faith's quality. Words are cheap. We find out what we truly believe when we act and sometimes it requires a sacrifice. Peter walking on the water is a really good example. He believed that if Jesus said it, it would happen. His faith was in Jesus' character and power and the reliability of his word. That's why he said, "If it is you, tell me to come to you on the water." He had to have faith like a child; simple, not laboriously mental in human understanding (because walking on water does not make sense). If Jesus says it, then it's 100% firm. Then his faith caused him to act. He stepped out on the water and THEN his miracle appeared. He was fine until he started looking at the waves and wavered OUT of faith back into human understanding and that's when his miracle went away. If he didn't really trust Jesus' words, he never would have stepped onto the water, would he? This is what we need to do with ALL of Jesus' words: read them and ask ourselves, "do I REALLY believe him and does my life show it"? This is what it means when the Bible says salvation is for those who have put their faith in Jesus. Not that we just mentally agree that Jesus died for us and that his blood covers our sin. That is not faith. This way of understanding faith explains how when Jesus says, "those who believe my words AND OBEY THEM have eternal life". It's not saying works save us, it's saying genuine faith acts and that kind of faith will save us, the same way Abraham's faith acted and every faithful person in Hebrews 11 acted as well as throughout the Bible acted on their trust in God. Real, genuine faith is proven to be genuine saving faith when it acts. If it doesn't act, it's not saving faith. So you see, salvation is by faith (nowhere does the Bible say faith alone in this context), but only saving faith, not dead faith that doesn't act. Is that more clear?

[@alex-y5f4g]

So are You saying that if i believe in Jesus 100% and i still continue with my homosexual relationship ' i will still enter the kingdom ?

[@GESvids]

*If I Believe in Jesus for Eternal Life, Can I Live However I Want?* - Zane C. Hodges

[@mr.porgens7349]

Best solution for this,"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved and thy house." Truth repentance! Not that false repentance like "repent of your sins" to be saved! Stay away from false theologians like the church reforms and Catholicism! They're trashed!!!

[@2Chronicles714_]

Because God certainly doesn't want you to change your mind and turn away from sin and di a 180° turn to living for and serving Jesus. Acts 17:30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance but now COMMANDETH ALL PEOPLE EVERY WHERE TO REPENT. Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they MUST TURN TO GOD IN REPENTANCE AND HAVE FAITH in our Lord Jesus Christ. Repent of sin and believe.

[@hardsayings2400]

Thanks Bob, great analysis. Like where you left it too.

[@blakekendall6156]

The unregenerate can respond to the gospel, but until God has regenerated him, he cannot respond to God himself. Paul in delivering the gospel, is pleading for the audience to respond to the gospel, the message, the good news.

[@PETERJOHN101]

"Without holiness no man will see the Lord." (Hebrews 12:14) Jesus never said that believing alone is enough, nor did Paul. In Mark 10:19 Jesus says we must keep the commandments in order to inherit eternal life. In Galatians 5:19-21, Paul lists all the behaviors that will prevent _anyone_ from entering heaven. Don't listen to this false teacher.

[@ok-qt4kr]

You think you "deserve" to enter His Kingdom ? How "good" do you - personally - have to be to gain entrance ?

[@PETERJOHN101]

@@ok-qt4kr Justification occurs when we repent and turn from sin, not because we deserve it. Those who have been regenerated by the Holy Spirit keep the commandments. Here is why: "He that saith he knows him, but keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." (1 John 2:4)

[@ok-qt4kr]

@@PETERJOHN101 Not a single passage in Scripture states : "Whosoever perfectly keeps His 10 Commandments (or any arbitrarily stitched together "list") is born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life and is thus justified before God". Not once . Ever . John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 alone refute your works righteousness soteriology . There's not a shred of Exegetical evidence derived from any Evangelistic/Everlasting Life/Justification before God passage , supporting your assertion . Yet , it appears that you think your perseverence till death in an unknowable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) will gain entrance into His Kingdom . That notion is as incoherent as it is frankly impossible . Only faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Everlasting Life imputed His perfect righteousness that He alone intrinsically possesses (Romans 4:1-8) . 100% entrance Requirement enters the Kingdom . And that as a result of belief in Him for His endless Promise , apart from all behavioral performance (works) . Your attempts to "come in some other way" will end in utter futility . "Noone is good but God alone" , Jesus declared . Faith alone In the Christ alone FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Everlasting Life alone regenerates - apart from all self worship - which is clearly what you're attempting to do , in the lineage of the Judaizers , Scribes and Pharisees .

[@franciscoavila8724]

Whether you like it or not, calvanism is the gospel, sanctification is the result of salvation, if you are not being sanctify by GOD then salvation has never occurred

[@Kman.]

Calvinists may use the same VERBIAGE, but they're READING from a different dictionary, and no...Calvinism is *NOT* the gospel. Please re-think what you just said... You're elevating & equating CALVINISM with the simple, death, burial & resurrection! You're suggesting that a BELIEF "system" is necessary for salvation. That's heretical.

[@Bible777193]

Good lesson brother, simple and to the point of error over true doctrine. Shalom

[@STEVEinNC]

If you don't see any of God's fruit, then it's dead faith, and only works of the flesh, to get glory for self.

[@GESvids]

*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIbGdoyOp9xpeaM How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation.

[@scottk7887]

Terrible and unbiblical analysis of Paul Washer! Taken out of context completely! Please read John 3 and Ezekiel and you can understand the Gospel Paul is preaching if our Lord opens your eyes! Regeneration always proceeds faith! Faith and repentance are gifts!

[@bobhawkins2997]

Spot on.

[@demarleroux3766]

Good summary of Paul Washers message

[@utoobtraveller]

The Bible is full of mysteries that, from the stand point of human rationalism, appear like contradictions-- 3 Persons who are 1 God, the God-man possessing 2 natures though He is one person, and man's total inability to obey God from the heart yet his complete responsibility to do so. Washer is not a hyper-Calvinist but a biblical Calvinist who holds to a series of biblical paradoxes some regard as contradictions. He believes in God's sovereignty in salvation, man's innate deadness in sin and inability to believe without the work of the Spirit, but he also believe that all are responsible to believe, should be commanded to believe and be encouraged to believe through the announcement of God's promise that whosoever believes will be saved. Some who do not understand his theology paint him as if he were a hyper-Calvinist, and he is not. In fact, hyper-calvinists hate his preaching as they hated the preaching of Spurgeon, because of the full and free invitation he gave to sinners to look to Christ for salvation.

[@victorcarpintero8399]

Show me where the Bible teaches faith is a gift of God ? And where regeneration preceed salvation

[@lawrencestanley8989]

At 3:01, you said: *"you must experience holiness in this life in order to get into the coming kingdom."* Sir, this isn't a contradiction, nor is it even a Calvinistic understanding, but a Biblical one. Even Adrian Rogers, who was no friend of Calvinism, said "If your faith hasn't changed you, then it hasn't saved you." This is, after all, was the point that James was making when he said that "faith without works is dead." You are saved by faith alone, but not by a faith that IS alone. Works always accompany faith as an attestation to its genuineness.