Personal Protection: Liberty Civil Defense 9mm Ammo

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

I was at the butchers the other day, and being next in line the guy asked what I wanted, so for $hits and giggles I said “Pork chop pectorals, pork ribs, bag O’ oranges, more pork ribs, 4 layers of t-shirt”......he stopped me and said “buildin’ a Meat Target are you?” Paul Harrell reaches people of all ages groups, nationalities, and professions. Spreading the truth about ballistics and dental hygiene to the masses! #PaulHarrellForPresident2020

[@wmallensmith7508]

that...is...AWESOME!!! :)

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Hahahaha, funniest comment of the day.

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

FlamQ Dbltap- my Pappy always used to say “better to be a smartass than a dumbass” 😉

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

Wm Allen Smith- caught me off guard LOL

[@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG]

WhoWouldWantThisName- 😁

[@rharrold]

R.I.P. Paul Harrell

[@m4rvinmartian]

Difference in velocity. Liberty is an ammo sponsor for my reviews. While chatting with my rep, he told me that 2000fps was the PROJECTED velocity, and they had their boxes printed and shipped before their final tests came in at 2100fps+. They decided to package their ammo with the lesser fps, since people usually aren't upset with a better than stated performance. So, no, your chrono is not off, the ammo is just hotter than what's printed on the box.

[@thatguy22441]

It seems like companies that underestimate their ammo's velocity are the exception.

[@duaneelsbree3460]

Lots of factors here. Chronograph ever gun

[@duaneelsbree3460]

You have adjustable sights, don't you? Practice is practice, adjust your sights if it is that big a deal. I just shoot 2 groups, if that is the case. With the zeroes group the carry ammo. Concentrate on group size (trigger control...) not where it hits at in this situation. If its 4" to the right and low, big deal, that's not going to hurt the stuff you are using when needed, which will be dead on.

[@himawaricopter]

@@thatguy22441 iirc years ago were complaints about the early batches of their HV ammo that the velocity was 5-10% lower than advertised, so I think this might have been to address that.

[@robertpatter5509]

Better to under state velocity than over state it. They do this with expiration dates on food. Obviously the food lasts longer than what's on the package or can. But they wanted to play it safe.

[@chunkystyle]

Im just here to bear with the gunfire i hear in the background

[@jeremywatson9129]

It's for the best.

[@herewardthewatchful1014]

Not to sound redundant but the meat target is ________.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

It was a light day. Now the last episode was for masochists.

[@B0RN2RACE100]

You sir, win the internet this time

[@Marktk72]

It's funny, you would think he would put that in writing/graphic at the start so he doesn't have to say it every damn time! Don't change anything Paul!

[@Dsdcain]

You know it's some decent "hyper ammo" when Paul gets this excited about it.

[@reshpeck]

A first in the history of the solar system

[@cpprcrk1833]

Just marked the date in red crayon !

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

That was excited?

[@s00-x2h]

yeah how was that excited? i thought he's just in his normal form?

[@NeededGR13F]

This is pretty excited for Paul. You can tell cus he doesn't have the usual "I smell something sour" face he gets when he's holding ammo he doesn't like.

[@gregorysivits3605]

We love you Paul

[@jasonb7878]

There’s at least 10 videos confirming how fast this ammunition is good old Paul always gives it to us straight

[@gjones7777]

I haven't watched all of Paul's videos..yet.....but this is the FIRST time I've ever seen him seemingly impressed with something, even if it was only for a few seconds lol

[@grimbles39]

is he the gordon ramsay of ammunition

[@Kelly-oq9nh]

I just watched a recent video on this ammunition. I checked in with your review because I knew I would get all the information I needed. You may never read this because it’s four years old, but you are absolutely the go to guy when it comes to making a decision with ammunition and firearms. I really appreciate your consistency in presentation regarding all things firearm.

[@LCKnecht]

As someone living in an apartment, collateral damage as a consequence of pass through of the intended target is a serious concern. I'm grateful for the thorough review. I think this may be the right ammo for me and your video really helped in my decision.

[@taskforce505]

be mindful tho because these also fly thru hard surfaces like dry wall or wood and thin metal like nothing it pens level 3a armor and only fragments when it contacts soft tissue

[@Thomas-yw9eo]

I'd like to see how it performs in carbine length barrels. Rifle like velocities for a short distance I'm guessing.

[@MikeG.666]

​​@@ACommenterOnKZbin1000% agree, xcept the part where its ok, if your live in the country. FmJ's aka range Ammo, is not something to shoot at something your intending to kill. Just me I know, but I've been using CoreLokt when I wanna kill something big. FMJ's for plinking soda cans at distance. Edit- thought about it for a second. fMJ's are fine I suppose. They will kill absolutely. No worries of overpenetration out in the styx. I guess its just inhumane. If it's a 2 legged varmint, I couldn't care less. If it's an animal I respect, the quicker the better.

[@MikeG.666]

​@@ACommenterOnKZbinI did a couple years stint in an apartment complex. Long, long ago. Never again. The threat was very real every day, and the only thing I felt comfortable with was a Mossberg 500 loaded with birdshot. I liked my neighbors.

[@ShawnShipstad]

I am as well very concerned of overpenetration. If I understan correctly these are flat faced bullets and do not expand. This is what I "Heard"-I do not believe everything I hear. If these are 50 grains great, probably less recoil. Will they sy in and stop the threat-That is the big question for me. I need to do some checking arround. Great post-Thank yo0-Shawn.

[@freshfowler1398]

Paul Harrell Best Gun Channel EVER.👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@davidsomerset8411]

YES YES YES

[@gunlover5564]

He almost puts me to sleep. Hickok45 is the best

[@Teo317]

Um,... NO.

[@tommylee2894]

@@Teo317 Um,... YES.

[@mikesmith7497]

He is im not gay but if Paul asked me to go dow on him I would

[@Mrgunsngear]

Great data as always.

[@kevinwashington2723]

I'm just happy to see Paul has finally gotten his 1m subscriber milestone 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@matthewhickey3856]

I like the consistent format. Iv been watching since the early days and will keep watching

[@reshpeck]

Right. You'd think knowing exactly what to expect would be tiresome but it's actually really effective and educational.

[@fpatton]

Matthew Hickey Same here

[@miciavelli]

Okay matthew

[@derp8328]

Mr Harrell, You will probably never see this. Just in the off case that you do. I just want to say thank you. Truly. I have not watched all your videos. Most of them I believe. I have learned so much and the time you have taken is appreciated. You have become my benchmark of who I trust when it comes to firearms and ballistics. It seems like almost every time I search for an answer on KZbin you pop up and give me as accurate data as you can. Always doing it while being entertaining because you are a good story teller. I’m sure many many others feel the same as I do. Thank you

[@erictrippe2778]

Are you going to ask him out on a date?

[@derp8328]

@@erictrippe2778 I mean if he said yes…….

[@randywilson6068]

You gotta love it when Paul's video is 4 hours old and has 12,114 views already!!

[@BikerDash]

This is my warmer weather carry ammo. (In the winter, due to heavier amounts of clothing worn, I carry 115gr Critical Defense loads) I read a 1st hand account of their performance against feral hogs, and it was impressive. Imagine shooting a bad guy in the chest with a rabid blender. Considering the distance most personal defence shootings take place at, the deviation from point of aim will be minimal at worst. Excellent video. Well made, concise, and to the point.

[@pjbiggleswerth8903]

W a dot u can take care of the poi shift and u can zero for 100 yards cuz there's basically zero drop out to 100

[@peteveal9836]

I do the same. Summer ammo for me. Winter time, I use the 150gr micro federal HST.

[@MikeG.666]

That's thoughtful. I hadn't considered that. Going thru all my defense ammo right now pre winter up in the north. That is a valid consideration. Not Tshirt weather anymore.

[@MikeG.666]

​@@peteveal9836I'll look into it. Thanks.

[@malcolmballistictool]

Thanks for an informative video. I carry 9mm Liberty Defence ammo (60 rounds G45). You caught most of the high points, chief being how easy it is to carry. I use a modern red dot sight on my firearm which makes the POI a non-issue for me. The big parts you missed is A. This ammo produces the same or similar effects after cutting through level 3A body Armour (thats 30 layers of ballistic Kevlar) whereas your standard 9mm can only penetrate 5-6 layers. Also, it has practically zero drop at 100 yards, which makes it ideal for use on a farm for varmint control or for mountain lions or bobcats etc. This ammo makes your sidearm the closest thing to having a rifle on your hip.

[@Teboski78]

Has somebody actually tested this with ballistics gel or something covered in 3A Armor? IK it can penetrate it but I always imagined it would loose a good bit of energy in the process & maybe be mishapen from the impact so it mightn’t fragment the way it’s supposed to

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

@@Teboski78 Military Arms Channel tested it against 3A and a gel block

[@Teboski78]

@@JohnB-dr8sk he did it with deformation clay if I remember correctly, did he do another test with gel?

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

@@Teboski78 Yes, he did one with a ballistic gel torso behind the 3A

[@MassFuckery]

@@Teboski78 I've seen loads of folks state they tested the .40 and 9mm civil defense and both went through 3A no issue.

[@Jak_Nobody]

Paul's face when he saw that first velocity reading, though!

[@loneczgunner6562]

Been waiting for this one. You did not disappoint. Thanks for all you do Paul.

[@johnmatthes8608]

Your tests are very realistic. Thanks for all the work you put into your videos.

[@Swampytheroot]

I carry it in a pocketed P365XL to keep the weight down. Really, really good stuff when weight is a consideration. The fact it functions amazingly well is a bonus. Love your videos!

[@boatworkstoday]

This is the round I use for EDC in a Glock19 and really like it. Weight difference certainly being noticeable for carry and grouping accuracy has not been an issue for me. The recoil is also less making followup shots easier and faster compared to heavier rounds IMO.

[@ricksmith7370]

Gotta try this myself in my Glock 19

[@57HEMIviken]

Ive seen what these do to a butteball the results are pretty impressive (especially the exit hole

[@boatworkstoday]

@762x35mm Not yet. Right now everything is still stock

[@nelsonr1467]

Garbage ammo.

[@nelsonr1467]

@@MC-uj4co it is garbage ammo. You don't want ammo that light weight and that penetrates so shallow.

[@clint5212]

Thanks Paul. You were the man.

[@corybrown8422]

I've been using this ammo as my carry ammo for quite a while. Nice to see a test like this for it. I have seen others but getting Paul's take is awesome.

[@robertc672]

The Meat Target: (thə’) (mḕt) (tär’gət) Pork chop “pectorals” on the front, followed by pork “ribs”, watermelon “lung tissue”, more pork “ribs” on the back, covered with a leather jacket “skin”, four layers of t-shirt on the front, four layers of t-shirt on the back, and behind all that; the new and improved high tech fleece bullet-stop.

[@JoJoJoker]

Love it

[@giovantherehabilitatingthi1214]

I want a T shirt that says “Perforated our Pork Chop Pectorals 3x fast”

[@crankysports]

Drop everything and watch!!

[@ChrisLee969-t5p]

The only reason I ever bought this ammo was because of him. These rounds are finally starting to show up everywhere and really have upped the damage and lessened pass through chance. Great round and one of the only “hyper rounds” that he semi approved of, but maybe not the best for distance as he showed here but longer barrels will probably get the best out of these. Definitely a good sub gun round.

[@aaa8509]

Check out what they do to armor too. These things are amazing, they will stop a modern home invader without killing your kids or neighbors in an apartment building, just don't miss.

[@clintwestwood1895]

I love Paul Harrell's video presentations, always legit and thorough information.

[@MegaGstout]

As always thank you for the articulate and useful information. You are by far the best KZbin presenter for ammunition testing.

[@PhillyChease81]

I realize this video is over 3 years old but I need to say that this is the most comprehensive test I have seen. I’ve seen gel tests of these bullets but this one hands down beats those. I got some for my .45 acp 1911 HDW and look forward to testing them on the range. High price point but I hope they are accurate so I can use them. The lack of over penetration make me happy and adds security to my weapon. Thanks.

[@af7119]

I've never heard of youtube but i always watch every paul harrell video.

[@brucevaughn2886]

Very much appreciate the care and attention to consistent testing of this ammunition. Very help indeed.

[@Stubones999]

I love the look on his face when he reports the first velocity that was 115 feet per second higher than the box... Not often seen a bullet that is Faster than the stated box velocity. It didn't rain on Paul for this video, so we have to discount that... :)

[@rss5003]

Excellent video, love the meat target test. The round is brutal, excellent defensive close quarter round, I'm sold.

[@nezz4168]

here for the dental tips !

[@reshpeck]

Paul's got a tip for you :D His Halloween special was the best. I'm so glad he gives a shit about good dental health. It's an overlooked priority for too many people.

[@skinner321]

Not tips, a toothtorial.

[@JA-eq5um]

@@skinner321 that's bad

[@BushcraftingBogan]

I ate some Dots and Hot Tamales. I’m not what you call a professional. But today I doubled up some Paul Harrell videos!

[@skullfragments4655]

He should start a dental hygiene channel...uh yeah....

[@capcloud652]

I’ve learned more from this man than all the other gun tubers combined. Thank you, Paul

[@5minutenpizza]

I don't even own a firearm, yet here I am

[@lifebiker105]

You could not have a better Teacher. you have chosen wisely.

[@reshpeck]

What are you thinking of starting out with? Home protection, carry? I could give you some advice but it will all be based on Paul's findings so I'll just send you a link to the appropriate video :)

[@robfninh]

Welcome. Knowledge about firearms is helpful to all.

[@sonsofliberty3081]

Buy some. I'd start with a 22 long rifle. One rifle and one revolver. There is no kick. Practice good safety and fundamentals. Then you're off and running. Have fun.

[@TwentytenS4B8]

This is the correct channel to learn from. No bullshit, factual content that let's you make up your own mind.

[@jseal39560]

I went to the local sporting goods box store today in search of some 9mm ammo, and this is all they have in stock. I had never heard of it before so didn't buy any. Came home to do some research, and lo and behold, my favorite KZbin personality has an extremely comprehensive review. Thanks!! P.S. - I'll never get tired of the meat target.

[@adventurfly879]

These are designed to fragment on impact and a small disk is sent through. Thats how they are supposed to perform

[@MidwestPicker]

I love finding old Paul videos that I've never seen before

[@Rnemhrd]

It is amazing how many people worry about over penetration hurting a innocent bystander, but not missing the target and hitting a bystander. epic logic some have.

[@rustyshackleford17]

Everyone believes they'll be John Wick when the time comes.

[@paulpolito2001]

In my experience, too few plan that they’re going to fail (possibly in a spectacular manner) at whatever is being attempted. Foolish imo

[@zm1786]

Most self defense encounters happen less than 7 yards, most often within a few feet .

[@erictrippe2778]

@@zm1786 7 yards? Not 6 yards?

[@marquanbarnes4631]

Great channel, Better info. Seen lots of other channels that support "guns and ammo" by far Paul is my favorite ! i get what i need plus more watching these videos.

[@AspenSavage]

Never too busy too watch a Paul Harrell video (unless I'm at work)

[@northernninety7]

Work can wait lol

[@veryfarfromhome]

Filthy casual

[@claytongehrke2176]

I watch almost exclusively at work

[@drengillespie]

My coworkers when I was overnight got used to the gunfire coming off a speaker. I would put a video on and do my job.

[@richarddixon7276]

@@claytongehrke2176 I only watch at work, but only on breaks , I don't have the internet at home !

[@somerandomassguyontheinter2869]

5 years late, but i just heard about this ammo and was really intrigued as the premise is super different than any other 9mm ive had experience with and it almost sounded too good to be true. lo and behold, my favorite channel for firearms just so happens to have a video on the ammo i was looking at. thanks!

[@markhankins3023]

We’re all pulling for you Paul.👊🏽

[@nicolom6490]

Between the 5.7 and this, paul has been uploading the exact videos i’ve been wanting

[@Chinyai]

Great demonstration with valid and thought provoking points. I don’t comment on videos a lot however your channel sir is by far one of the best most informative least chatty gun related channel with fantastic simulations and above all your honesty. In short thanks for the uploads, two in a day - is it Christmas already.

[@frydemwingz]

It's crazy seeing the subs over 1M now. I have like 3 channels I am subscribed to over 1M now, never thought this would be one of them.

[@Magneticitist]

Stuff like this is why Paul is the man. I can't tell you how many random convos I've come across online discussing rounds like this. A general concept seems to be basing the performance on what people guess would happen considering the bullet weight. It's typically along the lines of the bullet being too light to penetrate bone, or not being at all effective if it did. As it turns out, it's perfectly capable of penetrating bone combined with other barriers but it just happens to do it in a way where it won't continue to do so after stopping the target.

[@stoegerstewie8351]

Love this guy, the minute he said let's go to the range, I was sure it's his trusted Beretta 92FS, and there it was.

[@Nuck-Chorris1776]

Back watching old videos. Rest in peace, Paul.

[@stardust_2339]

What a wonderful birthday I have today. Only the cake is more delicious than this video.

[@stardust_2339]

@Paul Boggess Thank you!

[@V4zz33]

Happy Birthday, savour it!;))

[@foxsquirrel3038]

Stardust_23 Happy Birthday fellow PH viewer!!!

[@lukedawg357SIG]

Happy Birthday mine was yesterday I got no cake again!

[@stardust_2339]

Ferenc Fajkusz Thank you! Ferenc? Is that Hungarian?

[@niccadoodles]

Thank you for doing this text, Paul. I'm sure I was one of those people 'pestering' you to review this ammunition. I personally alternate stack these due to potential for going through some soft body armor. Glad to see I wasn't wasting your time!

[@macalpha4099]

jesus ur deviation must be 5-10 inches goodluck though

[@niccadoodles]

@@macalpha4099 Both rounds in my .40 shoot really flat so it works out.

[@niccadoodles]

@@macalpha4099 have you tried these rounds out? If you can get ahold of them I highly recommend getting 2 boxes. It's hard not to shoot them all.

[@Walter-wo5sz]

Paul, you should sell T-shirts that say "meat target" and your description of it.

[@drengillespie]

I’d buy a bunch.

[@internettroll7604]

That would go on my Christmas list.

[@tikkidaddy]

Yes

[@fpatton]

That's actually a pretty good suggestion about the tshirt!

[@tikkidaddy]

They need to just start labeling ammo as MTA or NMTA...meat target approved...save all of us time and money...

[@adamnygaard1]

I automatically hit the like button on Paul's videos before they even start because I know they will be good.

[@ronaldcolman6211]

I want to see how this performs in a carbine. I understand that the uber velocity and insane expansion would make it unsuitable for some uses, but I imagine it would be devastating on varmints, and just cool to see the chronograph numbers and carnage on the meat target. Great video as usual, keep em coming.

[@bly4233]

2,600fps in a Hi-Point carbine

[@paulseebach5978]

Thanks Paul. You always "make my day", no matter what gun you're holdin'.

[@Troy-te8zi]

Well I’ve used Liberty for sometime now in .45 ACP. In a 5” barrel (1911) saw no deviation & the felt recoil was significantly less, like very noticeable. Great ammo for 4” & longer firearms. I haven’t tried it in a 3.5” barrel. As for the 9mm, shoots well out of AREX ZERO, as for 3.3” barrels, significant drop in poa & poi. I’ve used the .40 in a 3.5” barrel & I did have to adjust the rear sight just a tad. The two things I like about it are, it’s a frangible projectile (look it up) & the felt recoil is significantly less.

[@SharkByteOfficial]

My G26 and G20 shoot it almost equally. Very loud rounds but very flat recoil on both.

[@AJUSA1]

Liberty is the best. Anytime I'm at the range, I load up regular 9mm and then switch to liberty and all of a sudden heads turn and I get asked questions about my gun... it rips!

[@Troy-te8zi]

@@AJUSA1 yes. Same here. I was once asked to not use it (local indoor range) until they were able to determine if there baffles system could handle it. It’s definitely head-turner.

[@AJUSA1]

@@Troy-te8zi 🤣 Awesome. They always turn heads.

[@dgilly6704]

Paul I got a Martini-Henry in .577/450 in great condition! I'm thrilled! I know you could appreciate the find. As always great video!

[@PaulHarrell]

That sounds really cool.

[@CrysResan]

Those guns look really fun, but being black powder(save maybe the .303 chamberings) they seem like actually being able to shoot them would be a labor of love and esoteric hand loading.

[@2AVA37]

This guy is too much of a legend.

[@waynepurcell6058]

Everyone needs to watch Paul just to see the level of trigger and muzzle discipline that should be trained and ingrained in everyone with a firearm. That disciple is like brakes on a car, sometimes it's more prudent to know when to slow down and stop than to stomp the gas. I've watched a few gun channels where the INFO and SHOOTING was good but they were sweeping themselves and everyone around them without even thinking about it. Watched a guy the other night cup his hand over the barrel twice before a safety check, then WHEN he checked it WAS loaded. Thank God for Paul and Hickok45.

[@jackhook4192]

I really love your meat targets to me it shows how much damage the ammunition really does closest to a actual human target. Way better than gel testing.

[@JazzLowrider]

Real informative information and no blabla thank you Paul for your professional honest analysist, I always come here when I need to know the truth.

[@terrybruce5923]

Paul, thank you for the video... I carry a S&W Shield 9mm and it occurred to me that if I had to deal with a situation in a crowded area, the lighter projectile/over penetration might be a consideration. I am well trained and a good shot, but certainly only want to hit the intended target. Normally I carry what you do in 9m but this is something to think about. Good Clip - Terry

[@reshpeck]

I have the same but I usually carry my Ruger .357 LCR with two speedloaders. If I feel like I might be facing a situation where more rounds and a faster reload may be necessary (which really I don't ever expect, but sometimes I carry it anyway because I feel like it) I'll bring the Shield. Now if it's cold and I can carry a bulkier weapon I bring my PPQ because it's amazing. After watching this video and seeing that there actually exists a hyper ammo that does what it is purported to do, I'm going to go pick some up and see if it stays within the point of aim for both pistols, because those results were surprising and impressive.

[@terrybruce5923]

Justin Vaughn - we are on the same freq. I am a traditionalist too and like my Colt 1911. If you try that, and get a chance, please post your findings here. I'd bet other Paul subscribers are thinking as we are. And yes, point of aim is key... I always practice/zero with what I carry.

[@reshpeck]

@@terrybruce5923 I just found out it's like $30 for a box of 20. That may be outside my price range regardless of its utility unless, like Paul said, there is a compelling reason to carry it, like if I were an Air Marshall or something (which I am not.)

[@terrybruce5923]

762 - that why they are one of the top 5 carry guns :)

[@terrybruce5923]

Justin Vaughn Wow!...good to know....Thanks! I am not an Air Marshal either so I will be fine with a little less velocity and a larger bullets :)

[@ericalbers4867]

I carry these. The ultra lights (nickel plated aluminum casing) and wow they're light. A full 17 round magazine is barely noticeable from an empty one. Its nice for my EDC. They also penetrate Level III armor although im probably in some serious shit if that's a concern outside of SHTF stuff. So its nice to have that extra security. Yes the case's are reloadable as well. Anyway id definitely recommend them to anybody. Even if its a shit in the arm, that catastrophic damage would definitely disable their usage of it, even if its not a vital hit. No amount of adrenaline or drugs can make an obliterated muscle or bone function. Also as far as shot placement, this is why your zero with your carry ammunition. Every ammo will be off from another type you've zeroed with. Zero with the exact rounds you intend to use (or like with Federal, a ball round that's the defensive rounds equal match)

[@dirtpitoutdoors2045]

Thanks for making this video Paul! I have some of this ammo and it’s nice to see the effects on the meat target. Keep up the good work!!!

[@Crowbrother7]

Paul, another good video! This is my carry ammo for all my handguns in .45 and 9mm an 38 Spl. I have not experienced any issues in the way of accuracy, but as you always say guns will vary. Keep the videos coming!

[@usernameisusername]

Hyper ammo that he actually likes😳

[@reshpeck]

Because it actually does what it's purported to do! I was as surprised as anyone, and I'm finally going to buy some after seeing this review.

[@usernameisusername]

@@reshpeck I am going to try it out too

[@GrumpyGenXGramps]

Did we watch the same video? I heard him say it’s NOT for him. Basically said it might be good for Sky Marshals or those carrying a lot of weight. At least that’s my take away.

[@usernameisusername]

@@GrumpyGenXGramps hi. Yes. But I don't dive too deep into it. It's effective and light. Odds of using your ccw almost zero. Odds of carrying your ccw high. Odds of an effective round that weighs less improving your daily carry comfort high. Figured it's worth a shot to try out. Oh and if he doesn't condemn a "hyper" ammo that is rare and interesting :)

[@reshpeck]

@@GrumpyGenXGramps I think by "he actually likes" is that he has solid reasons for recommending it. Even with the change in trajectory, if you were to resight your weapon for that specific ammo then the only downside is the cost.

[@brucevaughn2886]

Thank you Mr. Harrell for your careful testing of various brands/types of pistol ammunition commonly used for HD/PD. It is beyond the ability of many folks to buy and test the many various choices on the market. Your testing allows one to make a rational choice based on actual results in common firearms. Thank you very much.

[@Hutzjohn]

Paul you didn't mention body armor. Military Arms Channel (MAC) shot it out of a 4.2 inch barrel and it zipped right thru Spartan level IIIA body armor. I'm sure it wouldn't do the same damage as your meat target showed going thru body armor but it may be a wise choice to carry a spare magazine of these "just in case". Thank-you for the meat target demo and your fair evaluation of this ammo. I believe these rounds to be a good choice for ladies that are recoil sensitive.

[@JosephBall]

Over penetration is VERY high on my lisylt because I have a wife and 5 kids at home. Great video, thank you for your great observations. Making me think.

[@jakesuper6447]

"Know your target and what's beyond it" Is your primary way of stopping something bad from happening

[@JosephBall]

@@jakesuper6447 yes, but in the instant that I have to protect my family inside of the home I cannot control where the target stands.

[@Southernguitar74]

Great video! I would love to see your testing of the Hornady critical duty 135gr+p Flexlock ballistic tips. It looks like a great option with a lot going for it, especially for the winter months with heavier clothing. Thanks for all you do!

[@lennybrewster4673]

These and underwood extreme defenders are all you need anymore. Hollow points are outdated tech at this point, and don't even expand all the time.

[@jesseiancassidy]

Love hearing him say the speed this time his voice has so much surprise in it.

[@lifebiker105]

got my wife a T-Shirt with Meat target on it.. hahahaha. Paul you gave me that one. Awesome as always.

[@MichaelAsh-sd7hw]

When I want information on firearms and ammo, and I want it is plain understandable terms, Paul Harrell is my first stop!

[@44WarmocK77]

Now imagine what those bad boys would do when fired from a PCC

[@danielbutcher5836]

44WarmocK77 I was wondering the same thing. How many does he have left??

[@coe7222]

I don't know about the CCP M2, but I can say from experience the CCP does not like them. I loaded 2 mags full of this ammo and all but one of them were FTE. Unfortunately, I don't think this ammo is compatible with the gas delayed blowback system of that particular firearm. Edit: Oops, wrong gun! Got the letters mixed! Thought you were talking about the pistol.

[@bly4233]

44WarmocK77 Or get it in .357 Sig for a 5.5”+ handgun...

[@mgord9518]

Honestly I think it would get similar or maybe even less velocity because of barrel drag. I assume these use a ridiculously fast burning powder, and seeing that these get over 2k fps, they probably do a good job of burning almost all of it even out of a pistol length barrel.

[@Mryodamiles]

A guy on KZbin claimed that he got 3000+ FPS from 10mm 60gr version of this ammo… that’s from 16 inch carbine…. Pretty much rifle performance.

[@1nv1c7u5m4n30]

Holy Moly another wonderful offering from Mr Harrell!!! Thank you, Sir. You make Friday so much better.

[@MrEdgy81]

Hey Paul, would love to see another test of the Underwood Extreme Defenders. The +p 65 and 90 grain 9mm against the Grapefruit meat target would be awesome!

[@bly4233]

MrEdgy Per Federal’s experts, exceeding 2,200 FPS is when hydrostatic shock starts and temporary wound cavities become tissue damage. 5.5”-6” barrel on a 65gr .357 Sig, and I think you may have a rifle my friend. I want one too!

[@bluewater82]

BL y I saw that video, too. Kinda made me change my whole outlook on the “caliber wars.” Good stuff and very informative hearing what the manufacturers really had to say since they weren’t marketing any particular product. Just simple unbiased information straight from the people who spend all day every day designing and testing ammo.

[@jonathonbridges9625]

@@bly4233 late but Liberty 357 sig is advertised at 2300fps. The Harrels test proved anything, there's a very high probability of the ammo atleast reaching it's advertised velocity which is incredibly rare. That's rifle round speed coming out of a handgun 🤤.

[@Kross8761]

​@@jonathonbridges9625 granted the bullet designs are different, but .357sig civil defense traveling at about 2400fps (ish) is not far off from 5.56 55gr traveling at 2500fps (again, "ish") from a MK18. NOT an apples to apples comparison, but as far as weight and velocity go they're not terribly dissimilar.

[@BrickByBrickVets]

Super miss ya big guy! Love your brother too! Doing a great job big guy! Sorry for your loss dude! ❤️

[@djkillcrazy]

Disclaimer: Not all Liberty Civil Defense ammo can be shot like me. Your 92FS may vary. -- Paul Harrell

[@spconrad9612]

Excellent analysis, wow that ammo moves and w the damage done to the front ribs and lung tissue it was quite impressive. Great job as always Paul.

[@sfcablecar]

I must have come to the wrong channel. I was told there would be dental care advice.

[@justinolfart5431]

Again Paul fantastic video thanks for all the hard work I believe I speak for all of us when I say we really enjoyed it

[@DARINBAGGSGUNOUTLAW]

I'm have pick my wife up from work but she can wait until I'm done watching Paul sorry dear 👍🤪 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅

[@A8vscRrabbit]

I stopped doing yard work to watch this

[@sheilaf5732]

Oh no you might be sleeping on the couch tonight.

[@jeffwise3851]

No worries, I picked her up for you.

[@DARINBAGGSGUNOUTLAW]

@@sheilaf5732 I didn't have to sleep on the couch 👍😎

[@DARINBAGGSGUNOUTLAW]

@@jeffwise3851 You can if you live in Wisconsin 🤣

[@semajsga]

@4:35 Paul says 2111. That's my former MOS! Semper Fi Paul, and happy birthday!

[@rockmusicman21]

Wow. Surprised this stuff lives up to the hype. I bet it would penetrate level 3a vest too.

[@reshpeck]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@moorecav213]

It does. Check out militarily arms channel

[@AC-iq4gb]

Depending on the IIIA vest, it'll defeat it (not all IIIA armor is created equal). There are some that can stop it though, though I will say I don't remember seeing any videos of soft armor that can stop it from a 7.72 inch barrel (Scorpion EVO), let alone a 16 inch barrel.

[@Mryodamiles]

A guy on KZbin claimed that he got 3000+ FPS from 10mm 60gr version of this ammo… that’s from 16 inch carbine…. Pretty much rifle performance.

[@captaincodebook3200]

OMG I posted on Who T Who channel last week when he did a review that it was in need of a meat target test...AND HERE IT IS !!! I love being a Patreon of this firearms God of KZbin!!

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

I've told people this round was great for years and they never believed me

[@nelsonr1467]

Because its junk.

[@AlMacasaet]

We listen to you simply because you are professional.

[@Mister_Belvidere]

I was curious what your take would be on this ammo. People treat this stuff like it's some kind of freakin' miracle. I admit its performance is good, but not enough better to justify its cost, reputation, and scarcity. This is just my opinion of course. I was actually thinking about sending you a couple boxes so you could test it, but it looks like someone beat me to it. Thanks for the video and keep it up!

[@MrCZ75]

My problem with it is, once all the fragments have torn away. You're left with a little copper disc of what 20 grains, that acts much like a 22 or a 556 below the yaw velocity threshold. Way too gimmicky for me. Think I'll stick with the stuff that has consistently worked for near a decade with the data to back it up.

[@rustyshackleford17]

As far as this genera of ammo goes, it is impressive. Especially if you believe that you'll have to be shooting through body armor. I'm glad somebody actually tried to simulate a human torso with this stuff. Weird stuff happens when you hit bones. I wouldn't fault anyone for considering to carry thing because it is so lightweight and low recoil. With the 10mm, I had case cracks with factory glock barrels. I discontinued it.

[@bryananderson3772]

Thinking of sending is very different than actually doing it. I highly doubt that you would

[@Mister_Belvidere]

@@bryananderson3772 Thanks for sharing on my three year old comment lol

[@bryananderson3772]

@@Mister_Belvidere did you think they disappear?

[@TheCharlesAtoz]

Let's push Paul over the 500K mark in 2020! Best damn gun channel on YT!!

[@GunSam]

This ammo makes sense. Don't get me wrong, 9mm is a good cartridge.....However most 9mm ammo is right inside the transonic velocity range, going from just above the speed of sound at the muzzle to below the speed of sound by 25 or 50 yards. This transonic shift can change accuracy quite a bit beyond the 7 yard standard. This is why I personally prefer either warm .38 Special or 45 Auto for my carry guns. If I go up in power, I want .357 magnum so I can stay above the speed of sound at any range I will be impacting targets.

[@MrEdgy81]

I don't know enough to say if this is right or wrong but it does seem to explain some things I have experienced in shooting over the years. Like, why I always shoot .45 better than anything else, Why my .357 sig Springfield XD was crazy accurate at 25+ yards and why 124 gr 9mm always seems to hit in a different spot. I actually just switched to 65 gr +P Underwood extreme defenders for my 9mm, Shot a box and it was like shooting a laser, more accurate than my speer practice ammo and much more controllable.

[@John.VanSwearingen]

This clearly explains why all those .38 super, .40, and 9mm race guns are all known for their poor accuracy. I get why nobody shoots them in USPSA, where targets can be as far as 50 yards at major matches. Transonic destabilization might -- might -- open up a group by a .5" at that distance. Maybe. I see anywhere between a .5" and 1" difference between CCI Mini-Mags and CCI Standard Velocity out of my benchrest .22 at 100 yards. If you're good enough to see a negligible (0.2-0.25") difference in your 25 yard groups (which should be a 1" to an 1.5" out of a well-built competition pistol), you can outshoot Doug Koenig, Jonathan Shue, and just about every other competitive shooter that's won a major national championship, ever.

[@MrEdgy81]

@@John.VanSwearingen A 9 major race gun is hardly 9mm, lets not be silly.

[@John.VanSwearingen]

@@MrEdgy81 Race gun doesn't mean open gun. You can get great performance out of a Stock III, Shadow 2, Glock 34, or other good-quality Production gun with off-the-shelf 115 and 124. A decent barrel and good trigger will print 1.5" groups at 25 yards with ease without having to load bunnyfart 147s. Edited to add: a beastly 9mm major open load would be supersonic past 100. Looked that up out of curiosity. Why aren't we all calling coyotes with comped and dotted 2011s?

[@MrEdgy81]

@@John.VanSwearingen I shot open with my XD because it had a ported barrel but to be competitive I should have had a race gun. Now, you said race gun which implies 9 Major so don't backpedal. You also seem to be contradicting your original statement.

[@Casterman2]

Remington Green and White all the way. Best value and consistency thanks again

[@rbhe357]

Hey Paul, being that you routinely demonstrate using your Colt 1911 and 92FS, both military standard issue in their time, have you given any thought to adding the P320/M17 to the collection? I'd be interested in your opinion on this as it is being rolled out ;)

[@TwentytenS4B8]

Two months ago, I was doing IT work for the Army Criminal Investigation Division in Quantico and they all have P320's. The earlier drop fire issues have been resolved and it is a fine shooting weapon.

[@OhioCruffler]

We should buy him one.

[@zm1786]

Hes a boomer, while not a fuddy, hes probably going to mostly stick to what he knows

[@teebledsoe6633]

I need to take classes from Paul,the man just knows his guns,and truly retain the information learned from him the Manis just "The Man".

[@silentspace7201]

I would love to see the .45 ACP version of this round in the meat target. A lot more bullet to fragment.

[@joshmeade-buildingwealth7533]

There are tests on youtube and it's nasty. It is like this but on steroids

[@414Chevy]

Okay 2 years later, I understood the muzzle velocity test, as it is not taken from 1" from the muzzle. It is usually yards away as tested. I'm banking Mr. Harrell can't tell me how to build a 500 HP LS engine. On the same token, I sure as hell can't tell him how to shoot any kind of firearm, I'm getting better, but I'm not what you would call, An Expert. Very good info, Sir, keep em coming!!!!!