What is it about alcohol stoves?

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Paul Messner

Paul Messner

Күн бұрын

What is it about alcohol camping stoves? I just love 'em. They are a great choice for a budget camp stove. A great choice for an ultralight stove if that's your backpacking style. They are compact and the fuel is readily available, They work in pretty much all conditions....go on....you know you want one.
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@ryanhuntermedia
@ryanhuntermedia Жыл бұрын
Jen just asked, “what are you watching now?” I said “I’m watching Paul boil water again”. She just walked out of the room. They just don’t get it. Cracking video again mate.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner Жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks mate. Jo says similar. ‘They’ve seen the orange mug’ ‘yep…it’s boiling again’ 😂😂
@johnw2758
@johnw2758 Жыл бұрын
Mine usually says.......not ANOTHER stove...🙂
@andybarbour3620
@andybarbour3620 5 ай бұрын
😂
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu Ай бұрын
Man see Paul Paul boil water Man happy
@steviezxr
@steviezxr Ай бұрын
Considering they are born for cooking and all. Only joking
@CalmingAnxiety
@CalmingAnxiety Жыл бұрын
Paul, I spent the weekend out on Dartmoor, all down to your channel. Going through some extra hard sh*t at the mo but felt so alive, the weather was just as I needed, windy, wet and awesome. Keep sharing it all with us, we love it. Thanks
@stetomlinson3146
@stetomlinson3146 Жыл бұрын
Massive respect to you friend. Outdoors can be a great place to empty your head. Walking along and letting your thoughts meander is a fantastic way of getting perspective on things. Sitting waiting for your water to boil with an alcohol stove can mean passers by are always happy to join you for a brew, (if you want them to of course!) I hope things improve for you and you have many more good days out. Cheers!
@lrdisco2005
@lrdisco2005 Жыл бұрын
Keep going, it does get better.
@Theorangeman.
@Theorangeman. Жыл бұрын
Keep going, were not here long and everything is temporary
@Phil.Oakley
@Phil.Oakley Жыл бұрын
Trangia is my go to stove. Used alcohol for years but recently added the gas burner to it. I find the alcohol more reliable. Yeah it burns slower but its consistent and I have cooked full English many times!
@melissahoffman4687
@melissahoffman4687 Жыл бұрын
You can also use purell liquid hand sanitizer for fuel. Add a pinch of salt to the fuel and stir it to add a little bit of yellow to the fuel so you can see it. :)
@azriramli6939
@azriramli6939 4 ай бұрын
that is an amazing tips, thank you
@melissahoffman4687
@melissahoffman4687 4 ай бұрын
@@azriramli6939 Purell hand sanitizer works as well. Try that. It will leave a little bit of residue inside the burner. I'm so glad this helped! :)
@bocskai98
@bocskai98 Жыл бұрын
The sticks in the ground trick is so cool. It's so simple and I never thought of it. Thanks for sharing. You're right. People do get addicted to these toys. I have made my alcohol stoves (aprox 10 pcs) years ago. Periodically they get taken outside and put to good use.
@danielbailey818
@danielbailey818 Жыл бұрын
To add to my last comment.... an easy simmer ring modification is to put a small magnet on the steel revolving lid of the simmer ring (top surface). This part is steel, so a magnet will stick to it. Now....instead of burning your fingers trying to take it off you now just use a metal item to attract the magnet and allow you to remove the ring without burning your fingers... Hope this helps and allows you to retain your fingerprints!
@PhilHaddon
@PhilHaddon Жыл бұрын
Magnets will turn into useless bits of metal with repeated heating. Try holding a soldering iron on a magnet
@danielbailey818
@danielbailey818 Жыл бұрын
@@PhilHaddon Hello Phil, Thank you for your comment. Of course I agree... Heat does degrade magnets. I am expecting mine to fail as I have now been using it for two years. At a cost of 10 pence for a small silver (in colour) button magnet in my opinon is brillant payback to allow me to retain my fingerprints. There are many alternatives, leather glove, retrieving magnet (magnet on an telescopic ariel)... Everyone to their own and what suits them.. One thing to note is that the magnet is never in direct heat. Placing it on the side of the swiveling simmer lid puts it out of the direct flame as soon as the simmer lid is opened. I havent met many people who use the simmer ring half closed, in my experience the simmer lid is used as a snuffer to extinguish the flame and prevent the O ring being damaged in the transport lid. Or used wide open to just close out just the vapour jets. Closing it more is pointless and you would better off using a candle if using the standard Trangia setup. I prefer to stir the food and take on and off the heat. The Trangia does have a habit of burning in the centre of the pan if left. In fact the only substance I haven't burnt in the centre of the pan is water! I posted this to provide the user of a Trangia an option to try out for themselves. I am not forcing anyone to do it.. Its not a must.... This is purely from my experience over the last two years and for 10p I will let people experience it for themselves. Two years in use should say something. Again, thank you for your post. I will continue to use my magnet ;-) R Dan
@tubthump
@tubthump Жыл бұрын
@@danielbailey818 well I think it's a brilliant idea!
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy Жыл бұрын
I just carry a bit of stiff stainless steel wire with a hook on the end. This can be used for retrieving the simmer ring or prodding it to change the setting.
@LeeLocke
@LeeLocke 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this priceless tip. Best comment reply ever! ​@danielbailey818
@R0han-579
@R0han-579 Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul as usual, personally I’m a big fan of alcohol stoves just for how quiet,simple and reliable they are,I especially love the whole trangia system with how well designed it is.
@danoutdoors1586
@danoutdoors1586 Жыл бұрын
Yes i agree
@pault1289
@pault1289 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and as there have been so many made, you can usually pick up a good one on eBay for reasonable money. A great way to start without spending a fortune on titanium gear.
@pedroclaro7822
@pedroclaro7822 8 ай бұрын
Definetly the Swiss Army knife of cooksets. Versatile and reliable.
@kke
@kke Жыл бұрын
First time I tried those soba pot noodle things, I didn't read the instructions properly and didn't get rid of the liquid before adding the sludge, just mixed it in. It's actually very nice that way, like soup. You can drink the remaining liquid once you fished out most of the noodles. Stays warm longer too, when you ditch the liquid, the noodles cool off quite quick.
@canopus101
@canopus101 Жыл бұрын
Good tip.
@goldeneddie
@goldeneddie Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that's how I've been cooking and eating them all my life, I had no idea it was the 'wrong' way! Are you sure!? I mean, who would throw away a hot flavoured soup when you're outside trying to keep warm? Honestly, I'm laughing my head off thinking how I've NEVER read the instructions... but I think WE are right and anyone chucking out good soup is crazy haha. Because you're right - it's tasty, soupy, and hotter longer!
@lioneljonson161
@lioneljonson161 Жыл бұрын
The great thing about the Trangia is that the burner is made more efficient and delivers optimum “bloom” when it’s used with the base and windshield provided with the 25 and 27 series sets. Their designs ensure the heat is used efficiently, greatly improving boil times but admittedly bulky and comparatively heavy. As a Scout leader, I’ve taught countless kids to cook and brew up outdoors using Trangia sets and they are impossible to wreck even for hyperactive adolescents. Lang may their lums reek! 😉
@Chris66able
@Chris66able Жыл бұрын
Hilarious using the term ' efficient ' when talking about Trangia !
@lauriebloggs8391
@lauriebloggs8391 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris66able efficient needed mean the quickest?
@Chris66able
@Chris66able Жыл бұрын
@@lauriebloggs8391 No I mean efficient ! Although it is very slow too !
@lauriebloggs8391
@lauriebloggs8391 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris66able sorry, should have read, "efficient need not...."
@krimke881
@krimke881 Жыл бұрын
”Hear hear!"
@MattGriffiths81
@MattGriffiths81 Жыл бұрын
Love alcohol stoves. I made my own from an old shoe-polish container, which has the added benefit of having a lid. Borrowed some loft insulation and bought a coffee filter gauze. Stuff the insulation in, cut the gauze so you can stuff it down the sides of the insulation inside the tin and it's spill-proof. The bottoms of these thinner cans can get a bit warm though, so watch out for that.
@CosmicSeeker69
@CosmicSeeker69 8 ай бұрын
upgrade - to a dubbin tin!
@dougfields5798
@dougfields5798 Жыл бұрын
You could put a coin or a large washer on that burner to cut the heat down .
@aapelikahkonen
@aapelikahkonen Жыл бұрын
If I had to have one stove for the apocalypse, it would be the Trangia. Hell, it is the stove that kept me fed in the army when we trained fighting behind the enemy lines. I do use a Pocket Rocket 2 and sure it is fast and fancy, but when it comes to absolute reliability in freezing temperatures, you cannot beat a Trangia.
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын
wood
@dmythica
@dmythica Жыл бұрын
@@escapetherace1943 depends where you are.
@escapetherace1943
@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын
@@dmythica wood
@maskddingo1779
@maskddingo1779 Жыл бұрын
How are you going to fuel it in an apocalypse? Nah. Give me a stick stove that i can use with multiple fuels like a firebox nano any day over a purely alcohol burner.
@maskddingo1779
@maskddingo1779 Жыл бұрын
@@dmythica if there is not enough wood for a stick stove where you are going (hard to imagine) then I still wouldn't choose alcohol. The fuel is too bulky and risk of it leaking in your pack is much higher than other options.
@magnuspym
@magnuspym Жыл бұрын
AGREE: No noise....no smell.
@coachhannah2403
@coachhannah2403 2 ай бұрын
That is what I understand. But, my stove runs on low for two or three minutes then off. Not a lot of noise. Propane has almost no smell (certainly not like white gasoline! 😁). I keep looking at them, will likely make one someday, and play with it on solo trips eventually. Fuel is WAY expensive in comparison (I refuel my canisters from my 9 kG bbq tank).
@GameDevAcademy
@GameDevAcademy Жыл бұрын
Have you ever fancied a remote feeding alcohol stove Paul?
@perceptionpressurecleaning9948
@perceptionpressurecleaning9948 Жыл бұрын
Love your collection! You have inspired me to create my own stoves for fun and camping
@robinj.9329
@robinj.9329 8 ай бұрын
I really like that ancient stone wall behind you. On a farm in "New England" where I spent part of my youth ( till about age 12) we had ancient "Pasture Walls" of fences built out of shale, rocks, borders pulled out of the fields way back in the 17th century! As I walked down the farm "Lane" between two of these walls, there would be all sorts of living critters living in the cracks! My favorite were the Chipmunk 🐿
@tonyg6103
@tonyg6103 Жыл бұрын
What I love about your videos Paul is that you explain it about as practically and cleanly without so much of the useless banter. ❤From Michigan! Cheers
@Adam-kr7jf
@Adam-kr7jf Жыл бұрын
Cover your pot with a lid, and water will boil twice as quick as what you're making out there, mate!!!!!!
@SuperAnatolli
@SuperAnatolli Жыл бұрын
I use all kind of stoves. But if I am on a tour where the stove _must_ work, I go with the Trangia 28 (mini trangia). Bomb proof. It is possible to use wood in the small stand on the mini if you for some reason can not get alcohol fuel. It is slow, but works. I have also made a 3D-printed tool (aluminium, printed at Shapeways) to grip the pan and kettle.
@Hebdomad7
@Hebdomad7 Жыл бұрын
5:20 - Just be careful asking for some meths late at night else your food won't be the only thing cooking...
@eddieallen6401
@eddieallen6401 Жыл бұрын
I share your love of alcohol stoves and the Trangia in particular. In fact in a recent gear purge the only stove I’ve kept is my 27 series set. Yes it’s bulky compared to some setups but once you’ve added a pot support, pot, windshield etc it soon adds up. It’s rugged, stable, windproof and gives me a childlike joy when I use it. One thing I’ve bought is the winter attachment, which clips onto the bottom of the burner and allows you to preheat the burner in freezing conditions. Blooms super quick even when the burner and alcohol are cold. Great video as always Paul.
@thebikepackingadventurer
@thebikepackingadventurer Жыл бұрын
The trangia (or similar) has its place, I find it works best if our on a hike and only wanting to boil water for drinks or a meal. Silent, and can fill it up ready for the day. Anything longer than I prefer my Soto windmaster and gas.
@jjjnettie
@jjjnettie Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my trangia knock off. It lives in a small soft cooler bag along with a couple of packs of noodles, dehydrated veggies, small tins of chicken, tea, coffee sachets, cup, spoon, knife and tiny chopping board. As I live in the bush you never know when a trip to the city will turn into an impromptu over night camp out. Lol
@pootlingalong8928
@pootlingalong8928 Жыл бұрын
Love alcohol stoves. I’ve just purchased a Speedster 30ml stove and Ti pot support for simple hot drinks, soups and the like. The joy of not fussing over how quickly it will come to a boil - it’ll come to a boil when it does! 😁
@dont_delay
@dont_delay Жыл бұрын
I love the quiet when using it . And being able to know how much fuel to take
@MichiganHiker
@MichiganHiker Жыл бұрын
You are not alone in your addiction to alcohol stoves. The elegant simplicity of the stoves and as you mentioned they are dead silent. I just spent two days in the backcountry cooking on my trangia and I could hear the sounds of nature not a small rocket engine firing from a canister.
@BushCampingTools
@BushCampingTools Жыл бұрын
I think alcohol is great as it burns pretty damn hot and is so clean and can be used for other uses, however travelling outside of the USA, Canada, UK, Australia (to some extent) alcohol is difficult and expensive to buy compared with kero. or petrol (car boat, whatever-avoid leaded- still can be found) or diesel (at worst). All over Nepal and Indonesia, NZ, India etc. easy and cheap to buy kero or Av gas . Maybe someone here knows about African countries and South American countries fuel availability.
@jouzel8951
@jouzel8951 Жыл бұрын
I have been backpacking for 30+ years, I used a MSR whisperlight for the first twenty years, still have it, still works, (it has needed maintenance, new O-rings, gaskets, pump bits....) great stove. For last ten years I have been using a Trangia, I love how quiet and simple they are.
@Hengists_Wild_Camps
@Hengists_Wild_Camps Жыл бұрын
Great video Paul. I love Trangia's and they're my favourite stove (The Trangia 27 storm cooker will always be the king of camping stoves for me). I remember that Trangia used to state that you shouldn't put your pot, with contents, on the stove straight away, as the heat can be dissipated and not provide enough energy for the stove to bloom before cooking. I also like the fact that Trangia's have an internal wick, unlike other spirit burners, which draws the fuel up towards the jets.
@GunnarTheF
@GunnarTheF Жыл бұрын
I started backpacking this year and the x-boil was one of the first things I got. Love its weight and simplicity. Will get a gas stove as well for longer tours with friends, but nothing beats the (missing) noise of alcohol stoves.
@farstrider79
@farstrider79 Жыл бұрын
I've got two gas backpacking stoves, they stay home when backpacking. If you enjoy your alcohol stove, I don't think you'd get much more out of cannisters stoves. But, buying things is fun......
@peterc5167
@peterc5167 Жыл бұрын
Nice, but how many full pans could you boil with the small fuel bottle?
@happycreativemind
@happycreativemind Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame your delivery today is going to cost you a new kitchen… I’m sure you used to work in health and safety 😂
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner Жыл бұрын
Ok…so I burned the kitchen down. Sorry dear 😂
@wanderwithmac
@wanderwithmac Жыл бұрын
The early alcohol stoves of my childhood were mince, 60 years later I am hooked.
@rozmcgarry7688
@rozmcgarry7688 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome video! I love your addiction! Even though I'm super happy with my Jetboil... I think its great to be aware of other options and be able to diversify your kit to be sure you can adapt to any situation and reduce weight by changing up your kit if your next adventure requires it. Thank you Mr Messner
@jamesdonoghue9358
@jamesdonoghue9358 Жыл бұрын
Last night I bought the X boil after watching your review. I have just had an email from X boil informing me I am the first Irish man with an X boil. I replied telling them they can thank Paul messner..
@motorboy23
@motorboy23 Жыл бұрын
Big fan of Speedster stoves myself, cracking bits of kit from a UK cottage maker
@miguelmorales9667
@miguelmorales9667 Жыл бұрын
I hiked the Pacific Crest Trail in 2011 with nothing to cook with except an alcohol stove made from a metal beer bottle. It worked great! 😊
@Amack1966
@Amack1966 Жыл бұрын
Love mine …… brought it because of your brilliant reviews. Got others too (all your fault lol). But my trangia is the never let you down one bit of cheap kit I always take. Thank you Paul for all you do and the knowledge you share 👍
@archer721
@archer721 Жыл бұрын
I love the simplicity of alcohol stoves. I also have quite an extensive collection and have found that they are by far the best stove for my little sailboat. they’re super easy to set up on the beaches, mountain tops or anywhere between!
@TheWtfnonamez
@TheWtfnonamez Жыл бұрын
Great video. Personally I think all stoves have their use cases, dependent on the camp, the group, the location and the altitude. Even as a fan of real fires, petrol stoves, gas stoves and rocket burners, I still love my Trangia. (and alcohol type stoves) Once you get used to how they work, they are basically a super low weight, almost instant lighting, source of low level cooking. For brews, noodles and warming food, they are king. They burn pretty much any fluid, including hand sanitiser, and if you make your own penny stove out of two beer cans they are basically free. (+ one penny of course) They are not exactly "scientific", and if you guess the fuel wrong, you either have to top up or let them burn out. But I dont mind because generally I treat them like a "controlled campfire". I like firing them up, letting them heat up, and enjoying that feeling of a fire, rather than a cooker. (if you know what I mean?)
@TeslasTeaParty
@TeslasTeaParty Жыл бұрын
I have over a dozen of these now (not including the ones I've made myself) but I only have a couple of wood stoves and just the one gas stove! I still don't quite understand my alcohol stove obsession, I just think they're really cool that's all! I don't have an xboil yet but I will by tomorrow 😁
@Nobby77
@Nobby77 Жыл бұрын
My fancee feast was my most used bit of kit till I killed it a couple of camps back. Quality stove
@Robb-jf7vg
@Robb-jf7vg Ай бұрын
This is "my kind" of "Camping" experience! Just sitting and enjoying THE QUIET! All the delightful 😊 sounds of "Mother Nature"! From bird song, to the Humm of the honeybees. To the cheep of the little 🐸 frog down by the pond !!!
@JBwhattodo
@JBwhattodo Жыл бұрын
They say alcohol is addictive, even stoves prove the point!
@c.d.3485
@c.d.3485 Жыл бұрын
Yup, alcohol stove every time. Even use mine in a Kelly Kettle Trekker and Robbens twig stove on occasion. Usually light it with a fero rod.
@luckybuccaneer
@luckybuccaneer Жыл бұрын
Aye, if you don’t use a fero rod you were clearly in the Boys Brigade and not the scouts. Lighters…pfft! 😂
@mokotramp
@mokotramp Ай бұрын
Cracking little stove, only stove I've ever take on my bikepacking adventures. Just ordered a little Lixada Ti as a spare, can't wait to try it out! I've got an MSR Dragonfly multi fuel burner too, it never gets used nowadays, always the Trangia! ✌️
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey Жыл бұрын
I have used some form of a alcohol stove for most of my 79 years on this earth. Everything from home made to the Trangias and the rest in between. My favorite for the last 30 years has been the Evernew Titanium Appalachian stove set. For a combination of a wood burner and alcohol . It's the Firebox , Nano Gen 2 in titanium and the standard Trangia ( *****or Steampunk EDDY-X ) as a second form of heat for it. I like the alcohol ones for their silent operation. Plus when camping I am not in a hurry so what's a few more minutes when getting my food ready. Only more free ( tranquil ) time to enjoy being out there. *****Several years back I found a brass alcohol stove at Goshawk outdoors in Australia. It's the Siphon Alcohol Stove Steampunk EDDY-X. It has the fastest bloom time of any stove I have or have seen , 12 seconds to a full bloom. it's the same size as a Trangia and can be used in their accessories.
@craigdyson3089
@craigdyson3089 Жыл бұрын
I am not the only one!!! I too, as soon as my alcohol stove arrived, I made a cup of tea with it. I now have a 1 man tent and all the wild camping gear to got out on multi day hikes. So I am officially a person with all the gear and no idea at the moment.
@stevenboyd593
@stevenboyd593 Жыл бұрын
Over and over again with the quiet of the woodland thing, ( it took me several hours to let the whining noise of the city actually subside ) you are gently guiding us in the way we MUST go...oh and by the by, the world is in a state of financial crisis. Your heart is a little medicine to the average bloke. God bless you and your family. In His Shalom
@rocketronnie1500
@rocketronnie1500 Жыл бұрын
What mug did you use great videos
@Ideriken
@Ideriken Жыл бұрын
I love my alcohol stoves. I was afraid you should talk bad about them, luckily you like both the size, silence, price and the excellent possibility to choose the size of the fuel canister yourself. Who cares if it takes a few minutes more to cook.
@SnowyAspenHills
@SnowyAspenHills Жыл бұрын
Alcohol stoves can be lauded for their lack of noise and in certain situations that would be very useful. I actually find the noise of a gas/white gas stove quite reassuring and know I will have boiled enough water for two cups in under two minutes. Cold weather not really an issue if one has a stove that will work with an inverted gas canister. I also have quite a few Alcohol burners and stoves to accommodate them but they don’t get used that often.
@ianhassall3757
@ianhassall3757 Жыл бұрын
Alcohol stoves are relaxing, mellow, peaceful, quiet, simple, and contemplative. If I wanted to boil water quickly I'd stay home and use the kettle. I hate being in a group where everyone's using a Jetboil to boil water in 3.58 seconds, the noise is mental. 100g tuna tins make great ultralight disposable stoves.
@SeanTolan_illuminated_imaging
@SeanTolan_illuminated_imaging Жыл бұрын
COME ON DUDE!!! HOW IRRITATING...must you wrinkle and krinkle the packages RIGHT BY THE MICROPHONE??!!! Great information, and love your other things you do...just please spare us on the package opening right in front of the microphone...
@jaymercha3859
@jaymercha3859 Ай бұрын
Maybe its because i'm from california but those dry leaves near an open flame are CREEPING me out. get a fire extinguisher PLEASE!
@hmemichel
@hmemichel 5 күн бұрын
I love the silence of them but I am such so clumsy. I worry I’ll know I it over. I like the X-Boil idea!
@henriccarlsson9052
@henriccarlsson9052 Жыл бұрын
My goto is the Bushcraft essentials ultralight and a Trangia alcohol. Great setup :)
@gedeon2696
@gedeon2696 Жыл бұрын
For an "experienced" outdoors person, putting a burner on ground full of dry leaves is ABSOLUTELY STUPID !!! That is why we have so many Forest fires!!
@Rob_65
@Rob_65 5 ай бұрын
I love my Trangia so much that I decided to buy a new burner after almost 35 years of loyal service (well, that and the fact that I accidentally flipped my pot and dumped food in the Trangia ...). The cooking time is actually not that bad at all when comparing to my gas stove. My new pot with heat collector at the bottom cooks water almost as fast as my gas stove with my regular (titanium) pan. Yes of course: that heat collector pot on the gas stove is even faster. That Trangia fuel bottle is also great: perfect dosing and never spilling any fuel. I do love to cook on gas but as soon as it is getting cold outside I only use my Trangia. An almost empty gas can will not cook water at all withou me warming it up (and getting cold myself)
@Bikepacking
@Bikepacking Жыл бұрын
Been using alcohol stove for years for me love the evernew design only one that can simmer .. but saying that fuel can be hard to come by in Some countries so which to Optimus Polaris Optifuel - Black Edition. Now it ticks all the boxes
@HardyBunster
@HardyBunster Жыл бұрын
The fascination for me with alcohol stoves is all the different ideas that are out there. Some good some not so good but there’s much more creativity going on with alcohol stoves than there is with gas burners. 👍
@steviezxr
@steviezxr Ай бұрын
Do you think noodles are just the best lightweight food for this sort of thing? Say a hike for a few days. Price vs energy noodles have to win? Grab some water from a stream, noodles, cant be beaten?
@paulthomas7985
@paulthomas7985 Жыл бұрын
100% with you Mr Messner. Why spoil a bloody great camp with the constant hissing of a flipping gas stove!!!!!! I'm a believer 😜. Like you I'm an addict, and loads of different alcohol burners. Trail designs ti-tri fissure is my favourite at the moment, very much like a stormin norman, but I've got a caldera keg system on the way too!!! Like the look of this though. Which toaks pot is that? I've got a UL650 and the website would suggest that falls between two sizes as its 102mm external diameter
@lizkent2624
@lizkent2624 Жыл бұрын
I have one of the original trangia 27 stoves which I bought over 30 years ago. Used it extensively and also a mini trangia. I find it really interesting that a lot of people are using them now without the windshield and pan package but just with a small lightweight support. Haven't tried that setup but may give it a go; I enjoy using gas stoves now! One safety point I haven't seen mentioned, it's really important to let the burner cool right down if refilling. Interesting video, thank you!
@jarmosalonen2068
@jarmosalonen2068 Жыл бұрын
The cross stand what Paul used for the Trangia burner, is no where as fast as a Trangia stoves you mentioned (excluding the mini). With a proper wind shield around, it is a very fuel efficient system though.
@davidcann6021
@davidcann6021 Жыл бұрын
Home Bargains still pretty cheap in there for Meths, £1.99 for 500ml.
@davidcooper6704
@davidcooper6704 Жыл бұрын
Too late!!! I already Have 6 wood stoves, a couple of Trangias (one ex-military) and about 30 Optimus/Primus type paraffin pressure stoves....oh..and a Kelly kettle. Half a dozen gas stoves not to mention a Trangia gas burner to use in my Firebox. Its a disease for which there is no cure.
@johnw2758
@johnw2758 Жыл бұрын
Lol....I was led in bed last night thinking that I could just put an alcohol stove below (about an inch) a couple of rocks if need be to cook. I have a few gas stoves, Soto, MSR etc but love using alcohol stoves (meths mainly), in fact, whenever the missus is cooking pasta I boil it on the Trangia or Fire Dragon or whatever stove I fancy using at the time. My favourite 'dish' , at present, is toasties on the Ridge Monkey..........................
@martinhafner2201
@martinhafner2201 Жыл бұрын
I only tinker with other stoves for fun, like butane, butane-propane and white gas. Mostly because a couple of them are very vintage - Hank Roberts Mark III mini stove and the Optimus 99. My main cooking method is via alcohol stoves. No moving parts and no clogged jets to worry about. Starts in all temperatures. I have a couple mini-trangia clones (Esbit) using the 3 piece triangular Esbit pot stand and wind screen, and a Brasslite Turbo II D for when I camp with Boy Scouts. They don't allow improvised liquid fuel stoves, so I must purchase consumer items. When I am on my own, I can use my home-made stoves. I have a couple pepsi can stoves, a couple super cat stoves, a couple cat stoves (a.k.a. Fancy Feest) and a convertible double shell soup can stove that does wood sticks in a wood gas re-burner style, or a similar approach to burning alcohol. There is even a cat stove that has such a close can fit that it does not need a wicking material - it wicks from the close spacing. And both are aluminum, so it starts quickly. And no fuel held by a wick. There are a few others too, but I forget which ones. I mostly use methanol since it is cheap from the hot rod racing store. Currently $6 per U.S. gallon. If I need extra performance, then adding 25% acetone works nicely. It adds some energy and lowers the boiling point a little. Good for extra cold weather. Use slightly thicker polyethylene bottles when adding acetone. I also have some solid fuel stoves, such as hexamine tablet and wood stick burning stoves. Some are bought and some are made. The soup can stove that burns hexamine is made to U.S. army specs for diameter and vertical spacing. They heavily tested a simple optimized setup and published it. I like the military's approach on field issues. Test, test, test and then tell everyone how to do it. Spacing around the pot of about 3/8 inch (9-10mm) and the pot should be 1.625 inches (41mm) above the tablet. Use a heavy chunk of base metal under the tablet for slower burns and a lighter chunk of base metal for faster burns. 12 holes around the bottom of about 0.25 inches (6mm). One day I will purchase a full Trangia cook kit, probably from Varusteleka. That will be a good day.
@toml.8210
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
I started with a Peak1 fuel stove, but I have recently built penny stoves and wood gas stoves, and prefer those. I just don't understand why people (morons) thing alcohol stoves will BLOW up!?? Have you tried to refil your stove while it's warm (just after heating a pot?)
@Bigblueone
@Bigblueone Жыл бұрын
Recently seen meths at between £3-45....£5-50 for 500ml ....I buy bioethanol from b & q 2lt for £8 I find it burns cleaner than meths too
@jimmycliff810
@jimmycliff810 Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, Do you think the X- Boil is a great stove and worth the investment? Which do you think is better, X-Boil or Trangia? Regards, Andy.
@brianbartulis9709
@brianbartulis9709 Жыл бұрын
When I found that many people use Yellow bottle Heat, gasline anti freeze I just had to get one, along with a Firebox Nano. Come springtime 6 packs of Heat are on sale. ~ Fun use is with my 14cm Zebra Billy pot with a small (folding type steamer) steamer basket. It opens Just enough inside the pot to steam veggies, etc. and didn't need to drill holes in the dandy bowl that comes with the Zebra Billy. ~~ Thanks to some youtuber I found the dandy Trangia fuel bottle as you have, although the 500ml version for justin case. 1day I'll have to kick it over while in use to see what happens. Many others that may pop in have dogs, and due to the semi wild I go to, dogs are nary leashed. lol, heck, a good sized lab's tail can knock over lamps on low tables.
@effyleven
@effyleven Жыл бұрын
That "90p" packet of Nissin Soba noodles is currently available from Amazon @ £9.20, so I recommend you get them from someplace else!
@harduphiker
@harduphiker Жыл бұрын
"Still only 3-4 pounds" - has the X-boil suddenly got expensive? They are £45 now!
@robertkoper3039
@robertkoper3039 Жыл бұрын
Nice that you spend some time on trangia (type)stoves.I like cooking normal meals instead of these expensive add water blubber bags 😊.Got the big 25 size and the smallest trangia too ,so easy when I need two burners.I go camping to enjoy the slow pace so spending a bit of time to make a good meal is a part of it.
@eddarby469
@eddarby469 Жыл бұрын
Wish I could come visit with you, share some tea, and trade outdoor skills. I enjoyed watching you, enjoying the wilderness, and enjoying your outdoor hobby. Happy holidays.
@garier6652
@garier6652 Жыл бұрын
I think everything depends on what you want to do. For a one or two day trip an alcohol stove is a lightweight option. But a small gas can with an ultra lightweight burner that fits in one cup is an option, too. If you travel around countries, a multifuel could be the best option. If it depends on weight, a gas stove with small canister weighs just 100 gramm more than an alcohol stove, both included fuel.
@stef2198
@stef2198 9 ай бұрын
I’ve just went and bought an alcohol stove. My go to for years has been an MSR dragonfly. I just think there is something therapeutic about the quiet, laid back alcohol burner. I can’t remember using one of these some 25 years ago when I was a kid. The dragonfly is good on longer trips. 4/5 days easily out of a bottle of kerosene including plenty of water for dishes etc.
@Pezzer81
@Pezzer81 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video I was debating if I should get rid of my first Trangia which is the Trangia mini but after this video I actually think I would have regretted it
@Jason-iz6ob
@Jason-iz6ob Жыл бұрын
I usually carry a ferro rod to light mine with. Since I burn myself with a lighter. Don’t know why it never occurred to me to just dip a stick in and light the stick….. I use 190 proof grain alcohol for my fuel. Non-toxic if I store it in my pot and even drinkable…..
@madmedic
@madmedic Жыл бұрын
Paul, I noticed you really love that teriyaki.. Tip: Bring yourself some dehydrated spring onions or chopped spring onions.. You'll be enjoying it even more
@starlingblack814
@starlingblack814 Жыл бұрын
Hello Paul; thanks for the video. I love alcohol stoves and prefer them to everything except maybe twig stoves which I can also adapt to be a pot stand for my alcohol burner if needed. I've also made my own plus purchased several others.
@pedroclaro7822
@pedroclaro7822 8 ай бұрын
For me the alcohol stoves’ appeal comes from MYOG. DIYing them is so fun and addictive - and cheap. Plus they’re super light and the alcohol is always handy as a disinfectant. I mainly use a twig stove, so alcohol is there in case any park ranger comes around. I always make my coffee an alcohol stove though - it’s just simple enough where I can set things up at night and light it up in the morning without leaving the comfort of my sleep system. Alcohol stove’s so light that I can carry a spare for boiling in my pot AND my mug. As said, alcohol can be bought anywhere - whereas gas or even gasoline is sometimes scarce. Where there isn’t wood there’s alcohol. Alcohol is also nice to light up a wood fire, so it doubles up as a fire starter. Free, available, versatile. Can’t get much better than that.
@matthewfrostmedia3286
@matthewfrostmedia3286 Жыл бұрын
Living in and around the Surrey Hills, I ride my Gravel bike a lot. I carry my Hammock/DD Tarp and my alcohol stove. I either use liquid or ge, my go to gel is the Fire Dragon, as I find the pouches great for packing down small. I love it, as like you say it is quiet. I am out for a relaxing and enjoyable time, and sitting in my hammock in the woods with the sound of a my Fire Maple blasting away ruins the experience. I am not in a rush for my brew, the relaxing wait all adds to to experience. Strangely it helps me feel like I am really in with nature. Riding with my saddle pack, it is all about packing down as small as you can. Best adventure was a ride in awful storms, pitched up in the woods up Boxhill, set the tarp up above me, set the hammock up, got a brew on the go and just chilled in the hammock with the rain lashing down with me nice and warm. I soon dried out and spent 6hrs in total silence bliss :-)
@James-gf9jl
@James-gf9jl Жыл бұрын
I use my Trangia inside a gasifying twig burner which all tucks inside an MSR 750ml pot. So I have two options for cooking. Only issue is the soot!
@christimartin8512
@christimartin8512 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks, Paul! I just got an X-Boil and Toaks pot for Christmas, but have not used it in the wild yet. Where did you find that squatty little fuel bottle? I have been looking for one that will fit in my pot, that is big enough to hold enough fuel for a weekend.
@davewalton2358
@davewalton2358 Жыл бұрын
I have several stoves now of various types (yes, I have the bug!) and am always poking around online looking at new and used ones. The wife gets suspicious whenever I hang around the mailbox now! I replaced the rubber Trangia o-rings with silicone ones from ebay and these are excellent. Handle heat really well, don't go hard and crack, fit firmly and don't fall out, make the lids easier to open and seal beautifully. Love cooking on alcohol stoves, and do so quite often on the table in the garden out in the backyard when I can't go bush, just for the sheer enjoyment of it. In cold weather, stick the Trangia in your pocket and warm it up while you get things ready, lights much easier as the fuel evaporates better...
@JamesWhiting96
@JamesWhiting96 Жыл бұрын
Hiya Paul, been really enjoying your videos lately especially the alcohol stove videos. You mentioned you can get Bioethnol in B&Q. No B&Q within a 30 mile radius for me has any Bioethnol in stock dispite it being on their website. Anywhere else you can recommend getting some. Or is amazon my only option?
@pauledwards499
@pauledwards499 4 ай бұрын
Great video Paul. I'm also a stove addict, love testing them out and i've tried all kinds but my favourite is one I made with an old shoe polish tin, some fibreglass loft insulation and a piece of fine wire mesh, very similar to your X Boil. It's spill proof and can boil 3-4 mugs of water on one fill. I got the idea from Gareth from Gareth & Zoe
@hip2bsquareguitar
@hip2bsquareguitar Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff. Great little video. Ceramic wool is cheap and a stainless steel camping mug with a bit rolled up with some gauze tucked in makes for good portable cooking and heating kit thingamebob. Watching from the North East of England. Cheers 🔥🍷
@maskddingo1779
@maskddingo1779 Жыл бұрын
I used to use alcohol stoves when I was a newb, but I quickly moved on to better things and no longer get the appeal. The fuel is ridiculously bulky. The weight of the burners are usually pretty heavy unless you build your own from aluminum. They work very poorly in the wind and when it's cold. I now use a multi-fuel Firebox Nano. Usually will burn sticks in it, but I also take solid fuel tabs with me for emergency. A lot less likely to have fuel spill out in your pack if it's a solid hunk. Alcohol stoves just make very little sence to me.
@Dreyno
@Dreyno Жыл бұрын
I have a Coleman Sportster as a power cut stove. Doesn’t get much use but nice to have. Coleman fuel isn’t easily available here (Ireland) so I use unleaded petrol. I love the fact that I can siphon it out of the lawnmower in a pinch. Wouldn’t bring it to the woods though. Big and heavy and total overkill for my needs (tea and noodles). Wonderful bit of kit though. Gas stoves are really handy. Clean and quick and more control of temperature. Sometimes they’re too noisy. Alcohol stoves are the lightweight, quiet and simple option. Nothing to break. Either a Trangia or one I made from two beer cans. I don’t think the titanium ones are worth the price. They all work and they all weigh sod all. They all have a place.
@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΧΩΡΑΪΤΗΣ
@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣΧΩΡΑΪΤΗΣ 11 ай бұрын
Alcohol burner For cup of tea around you're house....... And thats it. I want a alcohol burner myself too.... In real Mountain use, seakayak trips all year around, mtb bikepacking, only gas stove.Great video after all, but i advice someone to have a gas stove and a alcohol stove as second choice.
@frodelangset9790
@frodelangset9790 6 ай бұрын
I loaded a Primus eta pot (the 1.8 l version) with 1 kg of snow and put it on a Trangia triangle with an ordinary Trangia burner (I think it is named B25, the same one that you have in the video). It took 17.2 g of alkohol (denatured) to melt all the snow and then 26.7 g of alkohol to get it to the boiling point. That is in total less than 50 g of alkohol to get 1 liter boiling water from snow. No need to refuel the burner (I think it takes about 75 g alkohol).Total time was 20 minutes from I lit the stove (10 min to melt the snow and 10 min to boil the water). I think that is awesome! I love those little burners too.
@steTaylor85
@steTaylor85 Жыл бұрын
I'd never owned a alcohol stove until I watched your channel lol was saving for the jet boil but after seeing your vids I went for a couple of trangias and a couple of bush box type things and boom... I'm addicted I now own several lol. Great informative videos keep it up 👍👊
@paulotoole4950
@paulotoole4950 Жыл бұрын
Check out Poundland for a four pack of noodles for £1. Love my Trangia as well however going to experiment with Greencraft's Vaseline stove. I have recently seen a mod for the trangia burner were you add that carbon felt so it becomes spill proof.
@kenwebster5053
@kenwebster5053 10 ай бұрын
It's simply an oldy worldy nostalgic thing & thats all it is. I have a couple of these stoves & I like using them, but they are definitly not the go for light weight multi day hiking, except perhaps if you reserve the alcohol for wet day use only & just do a twig fire in your wind shield/pot stand the rest of the time. It's an abundant & never ending fuel source pretty much everywhere most people hike. People allways object citing bushfire risk, but realistically, you'd have to be an absolute moronic twit or criminal arsonist for that the happen.
@miquelbech5580
@miquelbech5580 Жыл бұрын
I too love my Trangia burner. I've tried gas burners, and they're so noisy, and I've had the misfortune of not being able to buy gas once. I've never had an issue finding some sort of alcohol to burn. But I do wish the Trangia was lighter... I've built my own X-biol style burner, but I don't feel good about bringing it out into the wild. I've tried it on the porch, and the flame seems much less controlled and with the slightest wind, the flame will go horizontally across the ground.
@jonathansmythe6273
@jonathansmythe6273 Жыл бұрын
Love my Trangia, not fast but reliable. "2nd goto is a gasefying twig stove, but 10 mins to light & needs dry fuel. Those Soba noodles are nice, a step up from pot noodles, add a bit of protein, makes a meal.
@TJ-cg8mq
@TJ-cg8mq Жыл бұрын
Hi mate - what was the 'clear' fuel you used in this demonstration? I agree with you - they are inconspicuous yet functional! Do your titanium pots/cups come with lids.??!..
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