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[@charlesdalton985]

That Tudor was the pinnacle of a Model A. What you did, is the pinnacle of love and marriage. Many happy years of enjoyment, and thanks for the education. ~ Chuck

[@ModelA]

Thanks Chuck.

[@scortia22]

Another amazing job. You guys are just awesome. Paul your right seeing your wife's face with enjoyment driving the A is priceless. Nothing better than seeing your spouse light up and make you feel great as well. Makes life worth living.

[@ModelA]

Yes indeed!

[@williamforbes5826]

Again, the info is great, but the humor is priceless! A Bug... higher than Willy Nelson!

[@RaysLaughsAndLyrics]

Paul and T are so Kool when driving and riding in Roadie they're frozen in time.... Forever young at heart.

[@privateprivate1865]

Model A's and T's and pre 80s automobiles have always and always will be cool!

[@davidmspinelli8951]

Model T, your Model A is awesome and I love seeing you work on it and drive it! You so deserve it and Paul is definitely a very lucky man! A good man indeed! You guys are perfect together, it brings joy to my heart to watch these videos of the two of you together working (playing) with Roadie!

[@ModelA]

Thanks David

[@arlenepetek6133]

Love how much fun your having together fixing & driving T’s new car.

[@quailstudios]

Hello Paul, you and Tina are inspirations to us all. I was changing the differential oil, transmission oil, and the engine oil in my car yesterday when this video was released, and all because of you. It wasn't a Ford Model A because I haven't gotten one yet. I was working on my 2006 Mazda MX5. I've never worked on it that much before, but now I have the courage to do so. Still haven't found a Model A that isn't a hooptie. Most cars for sale need a lot of work and I'm not up to that yet. I need one that has been taken care of and needs some nudges once in a while to get me started. Thanks for everything!

[@ModelA]

Thanks Hal! MX5-Model A, same-same. hahhaa! May God be with you.

[@dwilliams8365]

As always You The Man and now Tina The Lady - keep showing Model T doing her own work as much as possible ( she is a good “ apprentice “)

[@timnewman1172]

You definitely made the right move by selling the Tudor, seeing Model T light up even makes my day!

[@ModelA]

Yep. For sure

[@kenkaufman6760]

Two cool people doing cool people things....couldn't agree more!!

[@ronaldspins]

I Love it when you say safety is the highest priority

[@ModelA]

Right after God

[@73technite]

Paul the look on Tina’s face is priceless. I am surprised you did not swap the carburetor for a Zenith while it was off. Happy wife happy life!

[@ModelA]

I should have

[@timnewman1172]

I have seen where "rodders" use tube shocks, but these cars are much lighter than what they were designed for, Thanks for proving the point!

[@ModelA]

Thanks!

[@charlesgall7829]

Nice episode. You are lucky to have a wife who enjoys these Model As with you!

[@vayabroder729]

The occasional backfire is kind of fun and funny every once in a while 💥🤣😂. The couple that plays together, stays together. You have a lovely chemistry between you both; lovely marriage. God bless.

[@alexlail7481]

For what it's worth, If you have a leak due to warpping or corrosion at the manifold to exhaust down pipes clamp I've used a sheet of aluminum foil roughly square then folded over on its self until 1¼"-1½" wide... then wrapped around the down pipe flange with roughly 1" above and trimmed to make a full number of wraps then carefully fold the piece above the flange down into the inside. Now when tightened the the factory collar clamp seals without excessive pressure on the bolts. Works great, lasts years and isn't visible. I have used this method for 9n/2n ford tractors which share the same basic engine design never used it on a model A though. Hopefully that is helpful at some point.

[@brockshields9336]

That was so fun at the end with Mrs. T driving her Roadie. I was thinking how much the muscles in her face were hurting from smiling so much. Such a pretty car, poopy tan fenders and all. Quite distinctive. I almost feel that black fenders would detract.

[@ModelA]

Thanks! I know what you mean

[@alexkalish8288]

You guys have just about convinced me to buy a model A. I have five model T's laying around in various states so a verdict of insanity is more than likely. I still consider myself Packard man but the early Fords are a world of their own - both easy and fun to work on. .The model A's are very attractive - with twice the power and brakes ! They ill never catch a Packard twin six but they will get across country. Great channel I collect old radios as well. Cheers W5YB

[@Dan-qy1rg]

Good job Paul, helping Model T to get the Model A Roadie up to snuff, was nice to see, you make it look easy. I would have watch earlier, but my son and I was pulling and replace a dry sleeve/insert on his Massey Ferguson 285 tractor. Fun drive with you and Model T, thanks for all you do, have a fantastic weekend, what's left of it.

[@ModelA]

Real work! Nice job.

[@ModelARickLasCruces]

Another well done video. Glad that you showed that the gland rings go into the manifold first -- not the ports.

[@ModelA]

Is there any other way?

[@elosogonzalez8739]

The countryside is a beautiful shades of Green! Sure would like to see more time on the road. She's happy!!

[@karltuxhorn1990]

Thank you again, Paul ( and "Model T") for another great video. Most importantly, it's seems that the two of you had fun making it. Perhaps in a future video, could you go over rebuilding the original "who-dey" friction shocks. That would be awesome!

[@ModelA]

That is already in the works. Thanks!

[@GenderSkins]

I have to say this Paul: I’d have done the same thing, if getting an old car is what would have made my SO happy. As it’s what I liked about when my late father and I was able to work on a car together.

[@huntdowse9727]

Sure agree on switching out the shocks. My Coupe rode really rough even with VW bug front shocks instead of the ones that came with the kit.

[@ModelA]

Yep

[@agostinodibella9939]

Great video Paul! I like the simplicity of repairs on these cars.

[@brookside5045]

Just in time. Getting ready to do this on my 29 Fordor. Thanks Paul and Miss. T.

[@ModelA]

Hope this helps you

[@GTP427cobra]

Model T has a great big smile and she enjoying her Model A

[@TooManyHobbiesJeremy]

That repair gaind lots of smiles per mile 😁

[@ModelA]

Yep! Thanks TMH

[@56Spookdog]

I love the the sound of the Model A’s, it’s the only disappointment I have with the six cylinder in my Oakland it sounds like a UPS truck.

[@ModelA]

Haa!! Well, that's unfortunate.

[@lawrenceklein3524]

I love the teamwork, and I love the great videos! 👍 Thank you so much! 😊

[@harveyhaase2030]

Hope Tina’s car gets new shocks soon. I got some new ones for my car so I’m looking forward to that video. Better yet you and Tina are invited to my home. You can put them on my car and Tina can film it. I live close by in Texas. 🤠

[@ModelA]

Ha!

[@douglascox9996]

Your fixit videos inspire. I’ve used your recent vid on replacing the fuel line system as a tutorial on my 1929 Tudor to replace mine; and good, too, finding a crunched up tubular fuel filter inside the “question mark” tube and remnants of filter screen jammed into the old petcock. Have no idea how they got there.

[@ModelA]

Wow. Glad you got that sorted out!

[@FilamentFriday]

You didn’t show or explain the backfire in the title. Was it just actually exhaust leak which is why you replaced the gaskets?

[@ModelA]

Yes. It was in a previous video. This is kind of a series

[@FilamentFriday]

Missed the previous. I’ll go back and watch.

[@jamessoares516]

Can’t wait to see when you guys put on the stock shocks

[@ModelA]

Coming soon

[@Dakiraun]

Her grin hasn't shrunk any - that's great! And haaa - the comment about opening your garage door unlike other KZbinrs - yes, so true! No idea why so many run cars in a closed garage.

[@ModelA]

Right?!!

[@edpickering8075]

Thank you...I have a 5 window deluxe 1930 A....

[@randolphpaul5899]

Question for you. What happened to Gandalf the Green?

[@lyndatomlins3448]

It is good to see Tina really enjoying the roadster ; adds a new dimension to the videos. The manifold gasket job was very well shown. I now use gland rings because of Pauls advice. With the original manifolds most of us still use, quite hard to get a 100% seal. Paul, how different would say is the performance /acceleration between your '29 Fordor & the '29 roadster.? I have a Fordor & Tudor ; the Tudor is like a jack rabbit but not the Fordor. Cheers. Wayne from NZ.

[@ModelA]

The roadster can run away and hide from the fordor

[@henktulp4400]

Where Model T is talking at 1:39 the (Automatic?) Translation recognises it as ‘Music’..... I take it you must be a very content husband Mr.Shinn!!! LOVE your vids!!!! Enjoy the weekend!!!.... greetings,Henk,theNetherlands!!! (Ps I purchased my Model A last week!!!!.... a 1928 Tudor assembled (produced?) in Canada and reportedly owned by only one family from new!!!)

[@ModelA]

Hahhaaa!!

[@markreynolds1663]

Paul, I reached out to you awhile back about my 31 Model A truck. I have been working on this for a couple months on and off. I took a break because I was just too frustrated….. ultimately here is my issue and no forums have the same problem. My distributor came loose at the beginning and stopped spinning. I don’t think the set screw was in correctly. Anyways I bought a brand new distributor from Snyder’s with modern points. I have spark. The truck is backfiring through the carb as it cranks and will NOT. Start. I pulled the front cover like you recommended to see if timing jumped and it’s spot on. I have no clue where to go from here. The timing has been checked 10 plus times by your video and the rotor points at 5 o’clock like it should. I have blue spark and I even pulled the plugs out and lined them up to see how they fire. 1243 in order. I have pulled the carb off and nothing looks dirty. Even replaced the intake gaskets twice….. I’m ready to drive this thing and enjoy it but don’t have enough knowledge and want to give up and sell it but love it too much to go that far. Just frustrating. It cranks fine when the ignition is off but seems to almost hydro lock if I keep cranking it with the key on. I bought the clear cap also and see the blue spark. I need help! Any ideas PLEASE. At this point I’m begging for ideas lol

[@ModelA]

Hey Mark. Sorry I missed your message. I get 100-300 emails a day and cannot possibly see all of them. When #1 is at TDC, the rotor should be pointing to about 4 o'clock, not 5. If it's pointing to 5, it is way too advanced. That will cause symptoms you describe. Use a ohmmeter to determine where the points open. With the spark lever just 2 notches from all the way up, rotor pointed at 4 o'clock, the points should be closed, just about to open. I have seen a LOT of "brand new" distributors with modern points where the points are mounted in the wrong location on the upper plate.

[@markreynolds1663]

@@ModelA oh no worries at all. I just appreciate you taking the time to give me guidance. And wow….my points were open…..what do you mean by points mounted in wrong spot? Do I need to send the plate back and ask for a new one? Or can I just readjust the points by loosing up the 2 screws and reset my gap? The plastic guide on the points that ride on the rotor lobe shows at the uphill part of the lobe. Hope this makes sense. Sorry and THANK YOU!!!!!!

[@ModelA]

You need someone to put eyeballs on that. Find a nearby club ASAP. I mean the position of the points where they are mounted on the upper plate. I have seen many that are several degrees off.

[@markreynolds1663]

@@ModelA thanks Paul!!! I have emailed a club and I’ll wait to hear from them. Have a great weekend!

[@James-xo4uv]

Well I'm Exhausted after watching your great video

[@ModelA]

HAHAHAA!!

[@krowbar1969]

Great video! Question…. You don’t retorque after the engine cools? No need?

[@ModelA]

Nah. After a couple drives, I hit it at 35 ft. lbs. just to see if anything moves

[@joemckee6207]

Thanks! please consider doiing a video on solving a probem with fuel mixiing to rich. Carbon coming out tthe exhaust. I think it should be cleaner. Thanks again.

[@ModelA]

Thank you Joe!! I put your suggestion on the idea whiteboard. Will do!

[@mackfisher4487]

Tina is your roadster letting you fill your childhood dream of being a mechanic, I thought I remember you saying something about your father discouraging you from that pursuit.

[@torqueitheavytruckservicellc]

Hey Paul, awesome channel you have! I’m restoring a 30 Tudor right now and will be using it as a daily. Would you make a general video of all the modifications and updates you would make to a Tudor like wiring mods, alternator, oil filter ect? All the updates to make a 30 a daily. That would be very helpful for my build. Thanks a bunch

[@ModelA]

My entire channel is about that. There is no onesingle video that can cover that.

[@Go4Corvette]

No finder cover 😂. Great job guys 👏

[@ModelA]

Nope! Hahaha

[@rscruiser3533]

Will have to peek at my exhaust / intake gasket to see if I have the copper one --- My '30 Coupe isn't really on the road yet --- it doesn't have any shocks on it -- it was purchased that way --- for whatever reason they weren't there --- have kept my eye out for some of the original lever type --- I did hear though -- that the --oil filled shocks had a smoother ride than a set of gas filled ones ---- For me -- I have to watch the cost of things ---- I don't know if Tina's tube shocks are gas or oil --- in the harsh ride --- but what is your thoughts on the oil over original ---- I guess in the end --- originals are rebuildable -- so if I can find a set reasonable --- then yes ----- Thanks for Another Enjoyable Video ----------- Rodney

[@ModelA]

In my limited experience, the stock oil filled shocks give the best ride

[@steveduecker9872]

That sounds great!

[@jdgimpa]

I love Model Ts smile. As the saying goes happy wife happy life.

[@ModelA]

Right you are

[@The411]

Hi Paul, with respect to the roadster type body I've heard mention of side curtains and I notice there seems to be studs to attach them on most roadsters I see. Were they optional? Very few seem to have survived. Or maybe they're just stashed in garages? Would you be able to do a video about them? Reason I ask is that I like the roadster type but I'm a little further North.

[@ModelA]

Side curtains were standard. Lots of places will reproduce them. Watch your speed with all that flapping canvas!!

[@The411]

@@ModelA Thanks for the reply Paul. I now own a 29 pickup. I'll be watching all your videos, they are extremely helpful. I need to go over this thing front to rear.

[@billhoy2394]

Hey Paul love u r channel question how rare is the the 31 pu steel roof with wide bed

[@ModelA]

Not terribly rare.

[@michaelrepetto669]

Awesome video as usual y'all 👌 And that big grin set it all!!! Ya done GOOD Paul 👍 😊

[@ModelA]

Thanks Michael!

[@txsailor57]

I used to use lacquer thinner for cleaning but now as soon as I get a whiff I can feel my airways going shut. I don't know what happened but needless to say I avoid that stuff now.

[@ModelA]

Yikes! You need an eppie pen!

[@BlindTom61]

Hi Paul. This is Tommy from Ione. I sure like your videos. One question. Why did you not replace that stud and tight nut? I'm just curious because you're such a master mechanic. Thanks to both of you for the great videos.

[@ModelA]

I dunno. It still works. Maybe someday.

[@mattomon1045]

model T your model A no longer sounds likr chitty chitty bang bang !

[@craigroberts3982]

great content. My car has no shocks lol. Tina's face says it all.

[@ModelA]

Thanks Craig!

[@patickbainintothewild]

I have the same Backfire problem, found the exhaust leak, replaced as you both did. but second ride out it still backfired again'! can't figure that one out, could there still be a leak?

[@ModelA]

Yes. Is it backfire from the muffler or the carb?

[@garyaxsom1815]

Had cracks in my exhaust manifold so I ordered another. When the new one come in its 1/16th longer than my intake manifold. Can't machine exhaust manifold do to the gland ring ledge. What would you do in this case shim air intake manifold to close gap?

[@ModelA]

No. I replace them both at the same time. If purchased together, they will already be machined and ready to rock

[@garyaxsom1815]

@@ModelA thanks

[@johnds6621]

so do you recheck the tork on those nuts in a few engine cycles?

[@ModelA]

Sometimes

[@brandtmagolon454]

What kind of paint did you spray on? Was it just for corrosion protection?

[@ModelA]

Engine enamel. Yes, rust problhibitive

[@brandtmagolon454]

@@ModelA ah ok thank you!

[@busterdee8228]

Sweet success.

[@curtcooper9447]

What a great video happy for you both 😅

[@ModelA]

Thanks Curt!

[@jmh119]

Thanks for sharing!

[@garyaxsom1815]

Is there any shim to use if air intake is about 1/16th less than exhaust manifold? Thinking of putting another copper gasket just on the intake! What ya think?

[@ModelA]

No. you need to machine the manifolds together or replace the one that is low

[@garyaxsom1815]

@@ModelA ok thanks. If I machine them it would be right at my gland rings. And I'm afraid if I buy a new intake manifold it would be short as well! Like anything it seems anymore company's just don't care. You wait on parts then there not right! Do you have a good company to try. Got the Exhaust manifold from Ecklers . And it should have been closer than 1/16 th

[@garyaxsom1815]

@@ModelA is it that bad that I machine away the gland ledges?

[@ModelA]

yes, that would be bad. Better to replace both manifolds at the same time. If you buy them together from Snyders or Mike's A-Fordable, they will already be machined perfectly

[@garyaxsom1815]

@@ModelA thank you will do.

[@deanjernstrom3760]

Totally worth it for us all. Thanks guys.....ENJOY

[@ModelA]

Thanks

[@scottmagyar]

Another great video Paul, Thks I am new to model A content from watching videos like these, can you give me a class on why a car that been out of production for almost 100 years? Why are there so many parts available from vendors catalogs that you could build a new model A from, since i don't see that many model A's on the road as daily drivers or at cars shows, the demand doesn't seem to justify the vendor catalogs variety and longevity for the last 100 yrs,,Lol thks

[@ModelA]

Thanks Scott. Model A is and has been a very popular car in America. Some call it the best American car ever made.

[@DoYouWantTaBeFree]

Do you retorque the manifold after a heat cycle or so?

[@ModelA]

I go back after a couple drives at 35 ft/lbs and make sure they don't move.

[@VintageCarHistory]

Henry Ringer would be proud.

[@ModelA]

For sure

[@MrBrendog67rat]

More smiles per mile!

[@tomstark8529]

Paul, im from Oklahoma and if you're not Cherokee indian, ill eat my hat.😂

[@ModelA]

You guessed it! What was the giveaway?

[@johngodbey9199]

Always great to see y’all. God bless

[@ModelA]

Thanks! God bless

[@nancywright2932]

I think the roadster body is a 1928 basted on the tail light connection to the body not the finder.

[@ModelA]

No. It's a 29 for sure

[@JesusTorres-qr1gz]

Hi Paul, how's going? Question, what if we retrofit a 1928 engine distributor and fit it with a centrifugal distributor? Of course it wouldn't be original but wouldn't give a sweet and smooth engine torque? From the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.

[@ModelA]

Hola Jesus! Some people do put an auto advance distributor. I just prefer to control it myself

[@JesusTorres-qr1gz]

@@ModelA hi Paul to my most expressive thanks for your kindness, blessings to you and your love ones, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.

[@ModelA]

God bless!

[@JesusTorres-qr1gz]

@@ModelA likewise gentleman, to you and all your love ones, indeed you are a very noble person, may God be with you, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.

[@pipefitter1728]

Regarding the torque wrench, I don’t think they will available when those cars were built and if they were Ford wouldn’t have used them, too much time!

[@ModelA]

There were torque wrenches back in the late 1800's. However, you are correct that we don't see any torque wrenches in use in old Ford factory videos. They seemed to be so good at what they did, they just knew.

[@chrisborey1734]

Another amazing video.

[@ModelA]

Glad you enjoyed it Chris!

[@johncharlton2602]

WOW very surprised you have left the Tilley on Mode "T" s roadster !!! .I would have removed the stuck nut easy heat with propane and dunk in cold water then it screws right off . Not sure you get an accurate torque on that coarse block thread.

[@ModelA]

I left it on there so she could experience it and then she will know first hand, the difference between a Zenith and a Tillotson.

[@ModelA]

It already dies when she stops on a hill. It is going to cheese her off enough that she will finally want the zenith.

[@SGTDuckButter]

It is cool.

[@theodorerogers9168]

Where do you find the Mega Copper for the gasket?

[@ModelA]

O'Reilly's sells it. Most of the Model A parts place do too.

[@theodorerogers9168]

Is that the same as Ultra Copper?

[@ModelA]

I think so

[@theodorerogers9168]

Thank you.

[@WACRE44]

Did you know Willie Nelson was in the hospital!!! He’s been playing on the road again lol

[@ModelA]

Good one!

[@joekiser-v3y]

What block is that with a spin on filter

[@ModelA]

Model A

[@jamesmorgan9080]

I missed where you tell people to Adjust their points when it starts backfiring or did I Miss it at all? Did you mention Yet many model A s were junked over this

[@ModelA]

Is that the one trick that fixes all backfiring?

[@woodsontr]

I don’t see how you could torque those manifold nuts without an extension. Some people are just silly. 😜

[@MauricioRavanelli]

Muy bueno .....I LOVE YOU FFFOOOORRRRDDDDDD

[@williamforbes5826]

Look at that 🌽 to 🌽 grin! Her face is going to freeze in that position! Isn't that worth it? Absolutely!

[@bobblankenship3427]

Great!!

[@Twiztidmind]

Anyone else notice the fram filter?

[@ModelA]

I think that ugly orange blob is noticed by everyone.

[@Mccabone]

I need a running A Engine... My 31 is seized!

[@ModelA]

Call Bert's Model A Center

[@JellyrollHorton]

So where’s the part about backfiring and stopping problems?

[@ModelA]

We solved it.

[@MrBrendog67rat]

its funny, when you have the top up you can hear all the noises in the motor and the trans, its actually quieter with the top down. be sure to wear a hat and sun screen with the top down, i need to take my roadster out

[@MrJeep75]

A mile a minute

[@ModelA]

Ha!

[@blxtothis]

It makes a change to see real people actually restoring a classic rather than a hairy, tattooed, noisy, shouty, bearded, ego maniac destroying said car wit modern parts and “an LS”!

[@ModelA]

Oh, amen to that!!

[@johnmccool4851]

Model T is definitely happy with her Model A. 🇺🇸

[@ModelA]

Yes!

[@mr_paw_t]

I highly suggest anyone new to watching this channel.... Subscribe. 👍

[@paulmathews5686]

lucky you got a " WIFE " that appreciates that old stuff ! most women are like ; " when are you gonna stop dragging all that old " junk " home !!!! better known as the " piss & moan club " !!!!! there are plenty of guys that bring projects home & spend countless hours out in the garage but , never finish them , " why " cause that is how they " escape " the tongue lashings from the " piss & moan club " !!!! If they finish the project , they will then have to spend time with the " piss & moan club " !!! fact of the matter , this is how a lot of men stay " married " !!! but if you ask these guys they will say , " yepper been happily married for 42 years " or what ever time it has been !!!!! yeah , okay , if you have to " hide - in - the - garage " from the wifey, just to stay married then I don't want no parts of gettin married again !!!! GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS , KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK , LIKE YOUR CHANNEL !!!! the Mack truck guy