He Thought About Riding A Double Black On A 10 Year Old MTB... - Ep 1

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[@PaulThePunter]

Next episode I'll take Shaun on some more serious slab trails so he can get mentally prepped! Become a Part Time Freerider here 👉 bit.ly/PunterStore

[@piercesmith9128]

@Benjamin Silva I had that same profile pic, lol.

[@jinavl]

great job paul🤙🤙🤙

[@PeterPhinney]

yo Shaun's a crazy guy who wants to shave grams of weight on his feet like he's a pro XC racer. choose someone else you going to get murdered in the woods or something.

[@flyfreak23]

Paul turning in Gordon Ramsey. Roasts his pupil, trashes his gear, then proceeds to help him out in the nicest way 😂😂

[@PaulThePunter]

This is accurate

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

Paul is trying to take this student out of his comfort zone, and showing him how to break bad habits, and also go past his limits. He’s a great mentor and a great teacher. I would’ve done the same.

[@GaedeRafael]

A shame... Just a piece of marketing for Giant! We always see guys shredding gnarly trails on old bikes... This thing of "the need to have" the last bike is just an excuse.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@GaedeRafael Old bikes, yes. Old bikes that are well-cared for, don't have any snapped spokes, and the saddle isn't looser than Asa Akira's sphincter. THAT is the point that flew _completely_ over your dense little helmet holder.

[@cvoo5369]

Was literally going to comment this shit

[@owainstravels3381]

Fair enough if his bike was in need of maintenance but there is nothing wrong with a 10 year old bike. I ride an 11 year old bike because it’s what I can afford. I’d prob be quicker and more comfortable on a new bike but I’m having a good time and it doesn’t hold me back at all. 10 years old is not that old... we’re not talking about a clunker from the 90’s. The best bike is the bike you can afford.

[@victigr]

For real, I ride a FS bike from 2009 and the only thing holding me back a bit is the outdated geometry. His bike has way better geometry.

[@Yoda-em5mt]

Aggreed i have always had older bikes hardtails because there cheaper the one major thing with the newer geo bikes is if your tall over 6 foot you can now get a bike with a long reach and run a short stem, shorter riders havent had to deal with these issues so a well maintained older bike with short stem and wide bars is fine and if anything will force better riding technique compared to a new 29 dually. I have a mate who just plowes thru everything with no skillls on his 170mm travèl 29 er and he servives somehow .???

[@DarthFaded80]

Yeah! That trail was there 10 years ago and people were riding it. My dad's specialized Epic from 2003 is still great. On the local trails I ride on, I can probably ride it faster than my Pivot Mach 6 cause it's an xc bike on technical xc trails.

[@thomashardbattle4287]

I ride a 90s frame with older parts and it works perfectly fine and dosent hold me back. Also its 26 what I like coz I'm short and I can throw it about

[@bryden_smith]

I jus bought a 08 reign bc it’s all I could afford and I love it

[@williamalexander4546]

With a service that old trance will be perfect!

[@scoobsm6994]

So what if it's an old bike? As long as it's not a walmart piece of junk. Sure, a new 29er enduro will make things a lot easier, but there are a lot of awesome older bikes around - even with 26" wheels. The "anything that's not the latest geo is a dangerous unrideable deathtrap that you'll break you neck on if you even think about riding it on a trail" is total BS.

[@thecanadian8900]

Yep I still use my 2011 Scott genius and its perfect

[@robhughes645]

Yup, totally agree, I have a few bikes and the most fun is a 2005 Goose Teocali with 26 wheels. This video and Pauls approach is disappointing, and one of the problems with MTBing, it's a rich kids sport only because of this bull**** attitude towards older bikes. Then again, if you can't ride that well, then I guess you need the biggest wheels and best suspension you can get right?

[@balemoran3168]

If you crash and you think your helmet is damaged, Always always smash it before you throw it away don't want any one picking it up and trying to use it.

[@filibustergaming3848]

Good point

[@badatmaths]

Good call. I crashed in a helmet and used it only to take my bike to the pool. Someone stole my bike and that helmet from the pool, so I hope they use that helmet!

[@Yoda-em5mt]

What about poor people ?

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@Yoda-em5mt If said poor people can't afford the helmet, they DEF can't afford the extra hospital bills from a failed helmet.

[@balemoran3168]

@@Yoda-em5mt why are you wanting poor people to get defective safety equipment? A cheap new helmet is far safer than a secondhand helmet that you crashed in and damaged already.

[@-tr0n]

Pshhhhh. I'm still riding a 20 year old HT on doubles. But yeah, it's gotta be in working order! Can't wait to see his progression.

[@SansibarRacing]

Yeah I was a bit baffled about the video title... But turns out it's not the age, it was just a totally trashed bike.

[@sendyboiii7]

Same here mate. But my bike is very well maintained

[@sebsbikehacks9644]

I ride a 17 year old santa cruz and its a 90mm xc bike and I do 20 foot step downs on it and it has held up surprisingly well

[@felixfrancisco8112]

Man mines 14 years old, I know your pain…

[@jonahdewitt8464]

@@sebsbikehacks9644 you're an absolute animal!! love to see people shredding the old school rigs

[@Hollaendaren]

Oh yeah, it's definitely the bikes age to blame here, definitely not the fact that it hasn't been serviced ever ;) I'm pretty sure people managed to get down trails 10 years ago too..

[@haydarjasim6766]

This guy isn’t even ready for a green trail yet a double black I’m 15 and I can ride better than this guy I’ve only been riding a year

[@krissv3ctor512]

@@haydarjasim6766 It’s probably because you’re a kid that you are so good. Most adults don’t have the same amount of time to spend biking as kids do.

[@haydarjasim6766]

@@krissv3ctor512 yeah I guess you’re right but this guy doesn’t seem to be ready for a black

[@keelangerken5154]

Lol, I'm still ripping double blacks on a 2006 Giant Glory. Literally everyone at bike parks are overbiked now.

[@diviscadilek1764]

I don't think this whole "over-biked" trend is as powerful as some people make it out to be. Technique is still many times more important than having an adequate bike. If you hand a gravel bike to a world cup pro, he'll still be way faster than you on a top-end DH bike. Yesterday I was riding jumps on my fixed-post full sus XC bike, I saw 4 riders with ff helmets and super enduro bikes, studying my technique. Gear doesn't matter too much.

[@Sarlasin]

I just got a brandnew bike 3months ago and I have to agree with you. I am probably way overbiked! But a few reasons I still got it were that first of all I could afford it and it really was something like a dream bike to me. Now that I have it I am super stoked and don’t regret anything! Second of all, now I have not a single excuse for why I can not ride down this or can’t jump that, because I know my bike is capable of it. So it just comes down to me and that helps me overcome my fear and get better at riding itself

[@bryndon]

Great episode Paul! I think it's an important thing to highlight for all the new riders that have been coming into the sport in the past year. Being able to make it down a Black Diamond and Being able to RIDE a Black Diamond are very different things... as a newer rider, you feel like if you make it down alive you've conquered that trail and it's time to move on, they have a lot more to learn on that Black trail. I love that you're giving him a bit of a reality check and asking him to slow down. I think a lot of people would be wise to take that advice, it's too easy to go fast down steep trails... you just let go of the brake, but that's also how you get yourself killed. Most people that are just learning to go fast down steep trails haven't been killed yet so they may not understand the risk.

[@pavelgerasimchuk1446]

Take him to the pump track to learn bike position! I learned from my local pump track how to be centered on my bike

[@piercesmith9128]

Thank you Paul for helping grow the biking community!

[@twotgfltandahalf]

Oh GOD, a whole 10 years! OMG! edit: Maybe... a bit of sponsor blindness there. Most trail-riders I know have bikes that are 10+ years. The main issue here was lack of maintenance. Aaaanyway, I'm gonna go ride my frankenbike from 2001 now. >.

[@jackmiller1324]

Especially 10 years from 2021 bikes im 2011 where pretty good. In 2011 people were riding just as gnarly stuff as we do now

[@Yoda-em5mt]

Can see both sides of this , yer paul your being a bit of a bike snobb but an older bike does make steeper stuff harder i hope you gave him that bike to keep because he will really hate his old bike after riding the new gen geo this is the no one reason i dont do demos or ride new fs bikes because i know i will want one and cant afford one and never will. Your could go way more gordon ramsey would make fun vid .

[@rufusthomas3067]

I'm guessing your 2001 bike doesn't have snapped spokes, a bent saddle and worn through suspension tho.

[@twotgfltandahalf]

@@rufusthomas3067 As I said; Maintenance was the problem, not the age.

[@slowmobius2136]

Pretty youtuber of you to be criticizing someone’s old bike. It’s not the wand it’s the magician

[@chrismitchell4665]

I kinda wished that you'd just promote riding with what you've got. People have been riding down mountains on bikes for 40 years and now you "need a 150mm dropper"? I do like your content, but not everyone can buy a new bike every 3, 5, or 10 years...

[@davisa3882]

exactly my tought its all about the flash and rivers of money , kinda sucks not everyone as 2 grand or more to laydown like that.

[@chrismitchell4665]

@@davisa3882 here's the thing. 10 years ago people were riding 26" bikes down Whistler and the reviews were all talking about how capable and progressive those bikes were, but now they're trash? C'mon now. Newer modern bikes are easier to ride, but that doesn't mean the older bikes weren't capable. These people act like they get a new 6 thousand dollar bike every year and assume other people do too. Not just this channel, just referring to most of the mtb content out there. I'm just always more impressed with riders riding cheaper or older bikes, promoting riding what you can afford.

[@davisa3882]

@@chrismitchell4665 counldt agree more

[@Yoda-em5mt]

@@chrismitchell4665 yep your spot on funny how you can turn up to ride in an area no one knows you with a 26 hardtail and full lycra act like a roadie and then smoke all th e wanna be richies on there full enduro bro gear that they have no idea how to ride. This does not help get riding partners but man its fun ha ha .

[@The_RC_Dude]

At the beginning of the video you were a little bit too critical...maybe phrase your "recommendations" in a different way?

[@pauls3616]

Great video. Awesome to see him progress like that. So much easier when you have someone watch you that knows what they are doing. I hear a lot of people helping their friends by telling them to get back further behind the saddle for every situation they encounter on the trail.

[@Biking_with_Akiva]

Paul would take one look at my Schwinn and get right back in his van

[@antoinest-laurentlantagne9347]

the fork that couldn't get all of his travel is because there is oil leak on the damper side of the fork, so the oil is accumulating in the lower, that why the fork can't get to all of its travel. That why you should do suspension service.

[@scblurlt1962]

so exited for this , my first double black in Squamish was hueso , such a progressive trail , well done shaun

[@asquare9316]

Haha, 10 year old bike, sooo old. I ride a 20 year old "super" bike a few days a week. Ride all kinds of trails here in the northeast, roots, rocks, sand, jumps, etc.

[@BrockNessMonster1991]

Exactly lol his so called “old” bike is completely adequate.

[@chrismitchell4665]

Thinking the same exact thing. 10 years old is still modern. The industry is a joke now. You need the latest trend or you can't ride.

[@BrockNessMonster1991]

@@chrismitchell4665 - Agreed.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Congratulations, y'all completely missed the part where his PeRfEcTlY fInE bike was utterly _busted._

[@chrismitchell4665]

@@DinnerForkTongue it would've taken 10 minutes on a bike stand to sort most of it out...

[@murphykim9074]

Hi Paul, you doing a great job in showing the importance of having the right gear for mountain bike! Thanks for the videos!

[@cameronrutten6483]

i really think there is a bit of a lost art to riding solo blind you go out to your trails and you just ride ones you've never ridden before and it is the best i love to do it and its quite a skill and i think more people should try it ps always do trails 1 or 2 grades down from what you're confident on if you shred double black and proline try a single black if you ride black ride some blue instead (some places have red between blue and black) usually you dont do this if you ride greens only or greens and blues but mostly greens.

[@Safewoood]

yeah its fun as hell. might be a bit more risky but the thrill you get is unbeatable

[@bennettweber9318]

cheers to every on on a bike worth less than 400 and is a hardtail and no dropper post

[@liveresist]

Just want to say that this is a great idea. I imagine one of your strong suits is grinding through the hard parts of improving at mtb. You should keep doing teaching series!

[@GoodTrails]

His right foot dropping through compressions at the bottom of every slab had me clutching my desk.

[@Jamesssbarker]

This is not the way you should teach someone braking and body position, You really need to start from the beginning and learn cornering body position on a pump track and braking

[@TySutherland]

Please get that man on some flats and five tens. He'll feel way less wobbly with some platform under him. I think he'll appreciate not having to lay down as much.

[@gogovitch66]

pleaaase! clipless + rookie + double black = scary! 😅

[@Jamesssbarker]

Thats not what is causing his wobbling, While yes a bigger platform may help a little, its the fact he just does not have the right body positions and real ability to ride these proper yet

[@D4ng3rD4n]

How does a bigger platform help, when the entire shoe is a platform when you're wearing clips? Doesn't make sense.

[@Jamesssbarker]

@@D4ng3rD4n Its like a standing on a skinny pole with a shoe on. You still wobble even tho your foot is inside the shoe. While yes a bigger platform isnt really needed it makes people more comfortable.

[@TySutherland]

​@@D4ng3rD4n Standing on a skinny little spd knob is in no way confidence inspiring. There is a reason flats exist.

[@B1KER]

I hesitated watching this but glad I did. This was a fun video with a great story that makes me want to watch the series. Good job man! Oh....and I really need to come up there to ride. Looks so sweet.

[@jaxongodwin8972]

I did double blacks on a 2007 Santa Cruz heckler

[@mkhitarkhodaverdian7159]

This 10 years old bike is an absolute gem in my country and i wish i had that bike

[@bentsound]

Me, looking at my highly upgraded 2007 Specialized Epic Comp like.... pshh, W/E, I could hit that double black!

[@schnawgalawg]

Hey my bike is 12 years old and it runs great lol

[@davemasek]

He had a nice bike. I ride A 10 year old Fuel, a 13 year old Cannondale HT and a 14 year old (heaven forbid) all rigid 29er KHS. 😱. Black tails all-day, on all.

[@Bogdan-le3bk]

13:09 holy that looks steep dayum

[@thomasspotzl4240]

What I've learnt from this vids so far: never underestimate the power of ignorance. Some people have a lack of technical knowledge that could be deadly for several others.

[@slappdaddy8]

Love this content - You are a tough teacher, a bit cheeky, but very affective! Thanks!

[@simplestones5209]

Man, he had a better bike than i had when i did my first double black

[@sorenoneil3876]

I rode all sorts of stuff on a bike like that other than the seatpost and saddle

[@pochito_javiercito]

Love this series Paul. Keep them coming!

[@stephenkrause6059]

Great job teaching Paul. I still have not done all of Hueso, missing 2 features, so hopefully by the end of the series we will both be riding all of it. Oh and by the way the "H" in Hueso is silent. It is Spanish for "Bone". Oh and there are still two features on Hueso I have not been able to do. Hopefully one day I will see you out there and you can show how it is done.

[@IronPatriot]

This will be exciting. NIce idea!

[@deanpowell2924]

Hi Paul, really enjoy these films you do, taking riders on new trails. Particularly enjoy the bike checks you do with them. Amazes me what condition the bikes are in! Would you also consider coaching someone on something other than a double black? We just don't have anything like that in the UK, make it more understandable. Keep going PP 💪

[@iancockerline2305]

Bike snob! 😉 (Is a winky face enough in 2021 still to let folks know you're teasing?) I still rock my 2010 RM Altitude 70, and more importantly it still rocks! (It's been maintained and upgraded though obviously)

[@tpowell3600]

Excellent looking forward to the next one.

[@hobmarg]

Cool video concept Paul, really entertaining.

[@jacksisson4325]

Hi Paul I think a great upgrade for that bike would be new levers. I recently just bought a bike with those brakes and found that those big chunky levers really held the brakes back I chucked a saint lever on instead of those giant ones and the difference was night and day way more power and control and bite Thanks jack

[@cvoo5369]

You could also.... bleed... the brakes... ummmmmm

[@allanridesbikes5856]

Great series idea! Nice progress, Shaun!

[@felixk3899]

Rode my 2010 stinky on a double black last summer , worked better than my buddy’s new meta

[@cogetoergo]

Nice 'let 'em eat cake' moment there Paul. It's not what you meant, clearly. But the guy on the high end carbon bike pointing out the other guys old alloy bike? I cringed. This gent needs more time on single black diamond trails. I've been to Squamish. Nice place. Lots of really good single black diamond trails. Challenging ones too. Shaun needs to address his braking. He further needs to address his body positioning. Lets hope he can gain the kind of (advanced) braking that those slabs require. And letting the bike move around beneath you... that kind of thing comes with a lot of experience. I'm sure he'll do fine. Make sure he understands the risks... Lawyers are watching.

[@gilcarver8852]

patience is a virtue mate well done!

[@walterbrown6388]

Great idea for a series. Love seeing the questionable bike setups and wondering how the're getting through any trails with any kind of fun being had.

[@parthiv9710]

Shaun's just like all of us fr

[@DownhillDesireMTB]

well there is no hope for me then! i'm learning on a £400 entry level hard tail!

[@mikedamisch]

Fine to learn on, but maybe not something to do double blacks on.

[@TheJanope13]

Would say it's more the condition of his bike more so than the bike itself

[@mikedamisch]

@@TheJanope13 400 entry level complete will not have the components (brakes for example) to ride a double black safely.

[@dookie3453]

@@mikedamisch sure you can, people were riding these same exact trails on bikes a lot older and worse than even the one he was riding. As long as you know exactly how your bike handles I don’t see a problem

[@mikedamisch]

@@dookie3453 ofcourse you CAN. And if you're a great rider, sure. But great riders rarely has 400 completes... I would not advice anyone to ride a double black on that kind of bike.

[@BIKINGWITHBOBO]

LOL, The DIAL-UP!

[@PaulThePunter]

That wasn’t even computer graphics

[@paccalarusz1240]

What a legend

[@jameskim7266]

I wish i can be on your video to ride my first black diamond on my 2005 Santa Cruz Nomad haha

[@YTZack408]

Would have been nice to see his bike fixed and then ridden.

[@TheStryder400]

Great video. "One more?", no "Another one" - Top Tip

[@glennvirtudazoglennskillun1711]

Good tutorial ☝☝🙌

[@kadebateman7192]

Not me having a 2008 bike that still rips😎

[@fillfreakin2245]

That seat angle!?! How did he ride that old bike going uphill? That could not have been comfortable. I hope he lubed it well. Also, get that man some gloves - specially if he's going to ride clipless. Kneepads and elbow pads too if he's going to be adventuring on double blacks.

[@51249ca]

I've always found there is "low", "lower" and "cockroach low" when descending

[@thomashardbattle4287]

I ride a 90s frame with older parts and it works perfectly fine and dosent hold me back. Also its 26 what I like coz I'm short and I can throw it about

[@methink7225]

i ride a 15 yr old giant reign... its older than me

[@TK-rr1gj]

Always service your bike! 😃

[@nick_john]

Old timey modem sound - Too funny!

[@lennylightskin218]

This would be so cool

[@Bogdan-le3bk]

I have ridden an allmost stock rockrider st 540 s on a black trail once and i survived :DD

[@TheCrashingDad]

JEEPERS CREEPERS!!!.... I don't think I'M ready for a single black in Squamish! 😳😬

[@PaulThePunter]

Haha pleeeeease

[@mikehaslett3738]

As long as it’s safe. It did it then. It can do it now

[@oliviu3757]

Hey, Paul I'm looking for a new enduro bike... What you can recommend me? I want to have fun with it and ride it every where from green trails (with my family) to whistler...

[@davisa3882]

get the most expensive you can find for that flash factor

[@randallmason9687]

My Mtn bike is 20yrs old. I ride everything on it!

[@duncandehulst2016]

Don't start with 10 year + bikes are not great, I've learned a lot on my old '05 kona coiler 😂😂😂

[@GreatCreative]

This is awesome!

[@mickaelht598]

btw he is not droping his heels

[@marko-zt5hc]

Idk how you manage to make mtb boring

[@Jamesssbarker]

Ahaha so true

[@ianseda]

Meh. I ride a '99 Superlight with rear V's. :D :D :D Tossed in some KoolStop pads and she's as good as new. Did find a SID front shock pump up adapter last year, so that was a nice score to tune that up. :D To the sky!

[@spin2win721]

Hmmm does he have a roadie background? I mean he basically had a roadie helmet and he was worried about grams. Not to mention he looked real stiff. All common things you typically see when someone makes the transition from road bike to mtb.

[@TwoWheeledAddict]

Im seeing a lot of statements in the comments regarding old bikes, and how paul is addressing some of these bike "issues". One thing everyone needs to realise, sometimes its just EASIER to replace things, than it is to wait weeks and weeks for new OLD parts (standards etc). Of course, being sponsored makes it even easier. Since paul had a bike to provide, why not right? Honestly, though, the thing that kept getting me was the...lack of ..... understanding where hes at, bike maintenance etc. Maybe I am deluded, but even when I was getting into MTB 10 years ago, if soemthing was wrong with my bike I NOTICED. Monitor that shit. How are people unable to go "Well that doesnt look right?". Good for him getting into it, but holy smokes it was painful hearing it in the video regarding some of the things he was doing wrong. Maybe it was just the way Paul portrayed it, I dont know. Either way, sweet video, wicked to see another rider getting into the sport! After riding countless days in WBP, I am still stunned at the lack of risk management of some people too. There is a difference between being "Dumb" and "Pushing Limits". its really good to see Paul putting the time and effort in to educate newer riders in the sport and show them the light as to how amazing it can be when you manage risk, keep your bike and gear in safe/working order. Etc etc

[@Osscar12356]

My bike is 20 years old, has rim brakes, no suspension and 1.9 inch tires. I have done double black traills, dirt merchant, a_line and have had no problem. Pual is just a snob

[@davitmargania6169]

ive never ridden a double black as well

[@Firebrand.886]

Hey Paul, what happened to the Joey podcast?

[@TheMediocreMountainBiker]

This couldn't be helped with the bike he rode, but I personally have a rule against installing new parts at the trailhead as it invites errors such as the cleat position.

[@aaronenduro3168]

That dropper is a lot shorter than 100mm! That was like 50 mm or something

[@mtbville]

This is great! 😃👌

[@davisa3882]

sucks that these days the price of bikes rivals the price of cars or motorcycles .kinda chokes the sport if your a beginner , unless mommy and daddy are loaded

[@Cowboy_Builder_Reviews_Org]

I've worked out what you are missing from your videos... You don't have a try hard you tuber following you round with a super high pitched fake laugh every time something minor happens. Good job too.

[@robhughes645]

Hahahaha, think I know who you're talking about. he also needs a Lambo and back yard the size of a football pitch to build a jump line on -)

[@vt6spd]

Well, my KHS Velvet is a 2009, but I also keep it in good shape. Has 180 mm travel, Bomber Forks...this bike in the video, is a little sketch.. but, hey we ride what we can.

[@zdream720]

Did you and Bobo get matching pineapple tattoos?

[@BIKINGWITHBOBO]

Yes 🤘🍍

[@zdream720]

@@BIKINGWITHBOBO now that is love 😍

[@youtubeviewer9523]

I ride double blacks on my 7 year old xc hardtail

[@BGbikeandski]

he better take care of his new bike😂

[@MrGman400]

Can there be a better place in the world to ride slabs??

[@jameszeolla1792]

When your down hiller is 10 years old 😳

[@Oscar-or7iz]

Episode 1 of Paul roasting other people’s bikes...

[@hightowermensclinic]

I can't pay attention because the guy looks like the main character from the Big Friendly Giant.

[@bikerx]

helmet smash LOL awesome

[@HUKIT.]

Huh it’s almost like the trails were like Mount Everest before 27.5/29ers were invented…

[@brass289]

Vid needs to be retitled to "Listen to me shame and dump on this kid non-stop for 10 minutes".

[@rlkmtb6272]

Advertisement of his sponsor: Your lucky mam, Here in the philippines as long as the bike is working properly we ride on it even it is a 20 year old bike. Remember the most important is the riding skills on a rider.