PAX - MVG CoG | Mew2King (Cloud) Vs. TSM | Zero (Diddy, Sheik) SSB4 WQ - Smash Wii U - Smash 4

[@razmitora2214]

2 games off of ZeRo and a decently close game 5? This would have been a slaughter a few months ago. M2K is improving at a top tier rate.

[@r2dgaming543]

M2K finally found a character he likes, in cloud. And as a cloud main myself, I have to say I am jealous of his skill. And yes, 2 months ago m2k probably would have taken one set at the MOST.

[@bladeOf3]

He hasn't played any character consistently enough to keep up. He stayed with DK for a while but not even a top DK could reaaly compete with high tier.

[@r2dgaming543]

+Carl Zuehlsdorf but now that he has cloud...

[@saulmuratalla1183]

dude mewtwo king doesn't even care that much about smash 4, he has matches where he literally looks away from the TV to talk, mewtwo king is the one who passed his knowledge on to ZeRo, Jason could take ZeRo down no problem. he just doesn't care enough to actually do it

[@r2dgaming543]

+Saul Muratalla you are over-estimating m2k. He can't take down ZeRo with his current skill.

[@Revolver20]

Why Zero have the USA flag in his name when he is from chile?

[@HeedyMooding]

Maybe because he lives in USA ?

[@vgbootcamp]

+Leo Gallardo It was a mistake

[@Revolver20]

VGBootCamp Oh,thanks

[@joshuamuoneke8478]

+Joseph Franc Take this L. The player chooses the flag, and ZeRo has always chosen the Chilean flag.

[@BassDamage18]

+Joseph Franc I'm from Chile and I live in America too

[@swanlesson]

M2k is getting so good at smash4, I'm glad he found a character he really likes

[@BlesterTamer01]

+Cody Littlejohn Yeah, he just needed a character with a good perk he could exploit and start practicing with it.

[@Babaduke97]

its because Cloud has Marth's range from Melee.

[@bladeOf3]

+Cody Littlejohn He has been pretty much destroying everyone with cloud that he has played against so far. This is one of the few times he had to really challenge himself since cloud released.

[@elim9054]

Bodied 3-0 by Zero at PAX like half a year ago, and here he is almost putting him into Loser's. He's lost some of his dominance at Melee, but if there's anyone who can dethrone Zero it's M2K.

[@RoboJean1994]

+EXM don't forget about Nairo and Ranai!

[@GARU7x]

The King will eventually be back...

[@viciosodelcs]

+Gabriel Rivero (GARU) Ken ?

[@augustcelineiii946]

+Gabriel Rivero (GARU) Pretty sure he's actually been winning a few tournaments lately with Cloud. ZeRo just happened to be in this one. I guess he can't officially be back until he beats ZeRo.lol

[@augustcelineiii946]

***** That's what he's saying. He will be, but he's not yet.

[@jessehowell9716]

He is still here in a better smash game

[@Demibrot]

+Jesse Howell He could even start playing super shitty in ssbm and still would be a king. His legacy is just too solid

[@CreamFraiche]

Honestly I always thought ZeRo only used Diddy when he was broken because he was broken but he proved that he's a good Diddy no matter what

[@pokecole37]

+CreamyGoodness He's never really dropped Diddy, it's just that it's hard to make the call to switch off Sheik in a set.

[@that1valentian769]

+Pokecole37 you can tell he is passionate about Diddy. He even has a Diddy shirt. Gotta respect him for that.

[@pokecole37]

+That One Amiibo Hoarder Definitely.

[@fangiscool1]

+CreamyGoodness He's beaten nearly every top Sheik post Diddy nerf. Pretty late to realize he's a good Diddy, now lmao.

[@CreamFraiche]

fangiscool1 I know he's a good Diddy, I just never saw him play Diddy much because he only pulled him out against other Sheiks. I'm just saying that it's good to see him use Diddy from the start and not just a back-up character

[@alliednoble3520]

10:10 I know this joke is getting kind of old but... Did he just walk up slowly and down smash??

[@assuming9735]

He didn't even walk up slowly.

[@Adventureruler]

+Angel Flores He did

[@christiandam1583]

+Angel Flores "He really did tho."

[@Adventureruler]

ohhh that's true, it was a follow up from his banana not just a raw attack

[@Sporkyz74]

Yep he didn't even walk though, he actually glide tossed into it.

[@lamfan3591]

master of melee vs smash 4 god

[@XIxCaptainKRulLT]

That's why this is awesome! :D They're both amazing players!

[@geekguru9847]

*master of Melee vs master of smash 4* Sounds better imo

[@Check_5_]

Now let's see them play Melee :]

[@XIxCaptainKRulLT]

+Chugga Chugga Choo Choo That would be pretty cool :p

[@lamfan3591]

***** I'm not sure if that works as well, because I've seen mew2king lose more commonly in melee then zero does in smash 4

[@XIxCaptainKRulLT]

*Looks at video. See "M2K Versus ZeRo." I just had to watch this! XD Two amazing Smash Players, how could I resist LOL!

[@legacy9685]

Same his Diddy is hype af

[@XIxCaptainKRulLT]

+elvis perez I know, right! ^-^

[@culedood123]

spoilers omfl for a second there i really thought m2k was gonna take it. So disappointing...

[@narutwodjf]

same....

[@trixietruelove2274]

It is going to be M2K who truly expands the meta to this game in the long run. Long live the king.

[@mr.d00m37]

expands ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@ABadGamble]

+Trixie Truelove DKWill is the only one expanding as far as I'm concerned. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@thatdude3977]

trixie is expanding my meta

[@jbizabeast1]

hi trish ^^

[@MewTubeHK]

8:18 how close was the blast zone? I could still see Cloud's sword when he exploded!

[@TheLastSliceOfPie]

Why did m2k use regular ledge get up so many times?

[@augustcelineiii946]

+TheLastSliceOfPie I think he gets especially nervous when he plays ZeRo.

[@ChimpRevolution]

It's a good option you gain frames of invincibility but he should mix it up as all can be punished

[@TheLastSliceOfPie]

it seemed like he did it way too often

[@MindAndMyth]

+TheLastSliceOfPie the man is a machine so don't doubt his logic. Gods cant do wrong. if he determined that neutral ledge get up whas the best option it 99% of the time whas the best option.

[@coolguy6117]

This vid is for sure gonna be top vid of the day

[@lilchunnky78]

Yup lol

[@bg5742]

might be the most popular smash 4 tournament video in a while, as cloud is in thumbnail and it's m2k playing him XD

[@coolguy6117]

+BearGamer nah when there's a bayonetta vs Zero that'll probably be it (If zero plays diddy that is)

[@imKozmik]

1:35 what are you Marth from melee.

[@Martyr022]

m2k, the only one to take ZeRo to game 5 this tourney.

[@aorusaki]

+Martyr022 yup

[@dunkinzdad]

Thanks for the spoilers...jerk.

[@SamHuang69]

+dunkinzdad That's why you should always look at the comments after you finished watching the videos, you know there's going to be people talking about the results

[@mr.butter1910]

+dunkinzdad then don't read the comments while watching

[@Mrwaffles04]

+dunkinzdad it's obvious it happens

[@DctrBread]

5:40 was this an accidental attempted L-cancel or something?

[@IsaacG97]

ZeRo's Diddy is unreal. What's his secret?

[@jaadfable]

Magic, his secret is he's magic

[@KingCoreyFTW]

+Pig Oinkerton and the shirt

[@meosk]

+isaac significant time learning the character.

[@DuskChill]

+isaac 100 up airs, 100 down tilts, a 10 kilometer up b, and a banana for breakfast.

[@SuperAaron360]

+Zamochy Every. Single. Day.

[@majoraxx2427]

"Clim Hazard " -D1

[@aninymouse1651]

+Kirito Alverez I mean, that's how it's spelled.

[@ShinyWaffle101]

+adam paolucci it's pronounced "Climb Hazard" though, lol.

[@aninymouse1651]

Hikigaya I'm not a savant on FFVII canon so I'll take your word for it, but the way D1 is pronouncing it is exactly how it is phonetically.

[@Tohlemiach]

+Hikigaya it's not pronounced anything. It's never been spoken out loud in a canonical form, so it could be pronounced "banana dong" for all we know.

[@ChooChooTrainny]

How I've always said it :B Climb Hazard sounded corny as a kid

[@sebicoolio]

If anyone was wondering why it seemed that m2k was doing regular stage get up like a derp it was because Zero pulled larger combo strings off of covering the other get ups. He took some damage risked it for the biscuit. Also sad to see him go because of a mistake blade beam

[@zipzzo]

I haven't played much cloud but I'm a little curious as to why M2K has non-existent projectile pressure? Cloud has a pretty good one doesn't he? Zero throwing the banana up and down the whole game I figure he'd fight fire with fire.

[@davidcosgrove4136]

It's not too good because there's pretty much a 100% guarantee ZeRo will powershield and have more time to set up whatever he wants. Why do that when you could charge limit?

[@a_stray_dog]

Ahhh, ZeRo proving once again why he's the world champ. Tournaments like these highlight how good he's at reading players, adapting to characters and developing strategies that cover all options. At least it was a close match.

[@Antifrost]

I wonder, when was the last time M2K and ZeRo played before this? I seem to remember M2K mentioning often that he hadn't played with ZeRo in a while. Even still, they both went at it pretty well, it's a shame that M2K SD'd at the end.

[@bg5742]

I think pax, not sure though :)

[@bg5742]

not this one though.

[@strangefate9605]

the match everyone has been wating for

[@youknewthiswascomingpete7249]

That smile at the end...oh my gosh M2K thinks he could have taken it. I have a feeling the king is about to shake up the meta.

[@roboking1020]

I know I'm pretty late on this but why did ZeRo and m2k stop hanging out?

[@BloodHound91100]

Did m2k drop donkey kong?

[@vvolfz3931]

When are youu going to do brawl ?

[@karmalapples5942]

I want to know what M2K would normally be like at a time like this!!

[@Theminimo98]

12:55 Some play to win. M2k plays for homepage of smash Reddit.

[@jaegerbravely8869]

Seeimg M2K flub at the end recovery made me feel bad but something about it cutting to him smiling and shaking Zeros hand felt amazing

[@PapaBear3030]

Is that dm?

[@dahviessss]

How old is Zero?

[@dahviessss]

Oh okay, cool

[@Enteramon]

18

[@prestonlewis8186]

+Narcissus proteus how old is m2k

[@dahviessss]

._.

[@narutouzumakijoshua]

+Black Tsunami zero is 20 and m2k is 27

[@jaysonchiem4924]

How do u make it time and stock?

[@jaysonchiem4924]

Never mind I found out

[@xNeversmiledx]

Are M2K and Zero friends? This match looks very tense.

[@ちるの-s5g]

What does 7^ mean?

[@herovalorwing6426]

I'd be really honoured if I got the chance to fight either of them, even though I've never been in tournaments

[@monkeymandogthing]

Is dmbrandon the commentator?

[@christiansearcy987]

I thought I heard Sky, D1, and Scar all commentating... does anyone know who it actually was?

[@BlaximilianD00d]

I like seeing zero vs m2k

[@maurice9493]

M2K does a amazing job. Im hyped to see more of his cloud

[@varunvenkatesh7077]

Wait, ZeRo wasn't nerfed in the last patch?

[@jello788]

zero isn't in the game yet. zero will be zeros new main.

[@jello788]

from megaman o3o

[@TMAHHLOL]

I had to watch this without sound and I was like"I wonder how hype that commentary is right now"

[@dunkinzdad]

quickest FIRST of 2016. Thanks VG

[@scottroth26]

lol ur not even first

[@dunkinzdad]

+scott roth def was. Bodied.

[@lamfan3591]

+scott roth Who was?

[@between_mistral_and_mahrinui]

why do people still find "first" important? jeez...

[@dunkinzdad]

Awww shucks! Are people so corny and bored and overly dramatic socially awkward hipster too-cool-for-the-room douches that they can't take my shitty attempt at "first" humor and try to kick off some super serous KZbin comment back and forth nonsensical argument that is embarrassing and cringe-worthy to even think about? They're not? Oh pheww. Thank god. Literally my first time ever putting FIRST in anything. So let's all just relax and agree that we're all equally as up-to-date and hip and cool as each other.

[@TheSsbcandidates]

When will ZeRo and M2K fight Reggie?

[@TheWagn156]

m2k's cloud lookin so clean. Glad he finally found his character. Zero is the shiek, esam is the pika, nairo is the zss, and m2k is THE cloud.

[@jeffreygreene5969]

6:28 - "If ever you are met with Cloud's Forward Smash, just pray... pray to the Heavens." Seriously, there should be a reel of the commentators' most memorable quotes during matches.

[@PAPERskillord]

17:40 Usually at times like this Mew2King would be really... what?

[@augustcelineiii946]

+PaperSkillord I think he was going to say depressed. M2K has a pretty bad history of getting depressed when he is consistently beat by other top level players. He went through a period of depression in melee when Hbox kept beating him, but he bounced back. He went through a similar state of depression with Smash 4 when ZeRo kept beating him, but it seems he has also bounced back. He still hasn't beat ZeRo, but you can tell by the smile on his face that he now knows it is possible.

[@PAPERskillord]

August Celine III I see. I think he doesn't take so much care about it. It would hurt him more when he would lose against top players in Melee.

[@augustcelineiii946]

PaperSkillord I would say that, but when this game first came out I feel like it really got him down to lose so easily to ZeRo early on.

[@jojoisepico82]

I thought he was gonna say salty..

[@warturtle6]

Great to see a close set!

[@thevisi0naryy]

That first stock is a work of art!

[@iCantPickaNamej]

For the announcers I believe it's climb hazard. not clymb hazard

[@Lucain24]

"We almost had PGA Golf Tour with that up smash" XD had me dyin Bruh!

[@KlldbyCuriosity]

I'm new to competitive Smash, any tips?

[@thestrawberryshogun8373]

Draco491Central practice every day.

[@protomania3177]

Who is the commentator in this who isn't D1?

[@lazyKong64]

Holy shi- I did not know ZeRo was only 20 years old! He's a young champ.

[@lazyKong64]

Forever alone.. f'in reply button not werkin... dammit,,

[@yalebass]

I like how m2k used the "newly discovered way of recovering with cloud" a lot in game 3 ;P

[@MrIcewarrior10]

are these two still best friends

[@Adventureruler]

Damn.. I was really hoping for M2K's Cloud to win, it's a good idea to practice what Cloud can do off stage and still reach the ledge in time.

[@travisscott1833]

Man... This is so much faster than when I play. The game recording was definetely sped up. There's no way the game is that fast.

[@DzlDizzleDzl]

I like how the commentators laughed when they said "brawl, melee.. any other version of smash(project m)"

[@udet2158]

But the question is... Will they get re-married?

[@icebear6757]

Yes

[@FabianR87321]

What happened to M2K´s DK? I thougt it was his main too?! Maybe M2K focuses too much on Cloud, because playing with DK might make him less predictable for his oponents. Also DK has a good recovery (on low to mid level skill that is, dunno about pro level).

[@davidcosgrove4136]

Because DK isn't that good.

[@FabianR87321]

David Cosgrove Maybe not. But in a game in which even low tier characters have been made into high tier over night, a character with huge range, fast air attacks, good shield pressure moves who also has the ding dong combo and is hard to kill can be worked with.

[@biggieshums]

Aren't Jason (the king) and ZeRo good friends? Pretty sure they lived together for quite a while

[@augustcelineiii946]

+Riley McClarin My honest theory is that they have drifted apart due to a number of factors. I have no real idea though, I just like coming up with theories about two of my favorite smashers... and shipping them.

[@blastoi5e]

video just started i have chills

[@thefoundation9143]

Apparently, no one uses the Wii Remote.

[@TitanAether]

The reason that Zero elected to pick that stage on the last game is because it lets him set the pace and the pressure. The idea is in Smashville, Mew2King would charge his limit on the platform and being Diddy, that involves plucking and throwing a banana and/or then picking an approach that wouldn't result in a punish. With a Sheik change and that stage, it allowed Zero to put pressure on the limit charges and put it on quickly because of Sheik's needles. By being able to do this, it lets Zero be the one who sets the pace for the game instead of letting Mew2King doing it by being able to charge limit and punish a bad approach.

[@MoistMarsupial]

Cloud's campaign slogan, "Limits are meant to be broken."

[@augustcelineiii946]

Good to see M2K smiling at the end of a match with ZeRo. Maybe because he knew how close it was, and he pretty much threw it away at the end, so he knows exactly what not to do next time. Can't wait to see the day that he beats ZeRo in tournament. Anyone know what's going on with their relationship? M2K smiled at the end, but ZeRo seemed to be treating him quite coldly.

[@BrookieSmallz]

I want to know how many hours a week these guys play this game and practice. This is insane...

[@brodyweedsmith1650]

Am I the only person who wants too see a Jtails Vs Zero Diddy Set???

[@gd5466]

+Brody Weedsmith Yes, you're probably the only person lol.

[@brodyweedsmith1650]

+GDGuitar95 Both of there diddys are soo good its hard too guess who would win which is why its so interesting

[@gd5466]

+Brody Weedsmith No it isn't. I could understand if this was during Apex 2015, but Jtails Diddy is not on the same level as ZeRo. Angel Cortes and MVD are better Diddy players than Jtails.

[@brodyweedsmith1650]

+GDGuitar95 MVD better diddys a fucking joke (no disrespect) and Angel has fewer acomplishments that Jtails so its hard too back up that statement.

[@gd5466]

+Brody Weedsmith Angel Cortes and MVD have better placings than Jtails.

[@ike_of_the_greil_mercenari465]

that punish at 16:18 was sick. There is a reason that M2K is the King.

[@jared3743]

@juiceDiem Is probably one of the best smash 4 commentators. Entertaining, insightful, and has a nice voice ;)

[@scottroth26]

zero is so good

[@alexvietzke6027]

Better nerf greninja

[@KingCoreyFTW]

+A Vietzke let's fix Sheik... *makes character less heavy*

[@pizzashark7067]

+Cookiez FTW Yeah she's really balanced now. Dying 2% earlier makes her needles completely unviable.

[@joseramirezcora7876]

+scott roth nope, he just grabs.

[@9000twister]

+Cookiez FTW Cookiezi*

[@Trisander]

why does zero have the USA flag ?

[@ZeusPluchinoish]

"And that's Mew2king, has the audience clapping when he recovers" Could not stop laughing

[@oliviawang2808]

0:33 "is it like 97?" I thought he meant zero was 97 years old XD

[@rygar342]

The king vs. The champ... this is gonna be good.

[@Xaasrevile]

Now tell me M2k isn't the best cloud player, this is pretty legit.

[@comet8157]

+Xaasrevile Komorokiri is probably better, but he's quickly becoming better and better. I'm really glad he found a character he actually enjoys in this game.

[@BrickNGames]

Komorokiri won Wombo Wednesdays and beat Ranai in the Grand Finals the day before GENESIS 3. He's hella good, don't think M2K knows the Villager matchup. Wouldn't be surprised if M2K surpassed him by 2 months from now tho.

[@Xaasrevile]

+BrickNGames Maybe he can't beat Ranai, but we've never seen it for sure. To be fair though Zero can stomp both Ranai and Komorikiri .

[@themeowboss9972]

If only audiences were like this ten years ago...

[@MegaSilverBlood]

8:45 "Im gonna call that a bait, I believe Mew2king meant to do that" Meanwhile in Mew2king´s head: "Holy shit!! that was lucky"

[@augustcelineiii946]

+MegaSilverBlood Capitalizing on luck is evidence of a great player though. :)

[@MegaSilverBlood]

August Celine III I was making a joke. "Luck is when preparation meets opportunity" very true.

[@obg98]

Are they no longer best bros?

[@sobosswagner]

M2k is gonna have a good year. I can feel it.

[@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegion]

pax deserves a better audience

[@kosmic_koala]

What a great match dude

[@Grchman]

have you guys seen zero's reaction video to cloud? He's DEFINITELY never played Final Fantasy 7.

[@ellisonkenh]

This commentary is actually pretty good.

[@triplechocolate887]

They both have their games though, you see zero going crazy in smash 4 but M2K destroying zero in melee

[@nickmemories9903]

This is gonna get 100k views isn't it? Maybe 200k?

[@SIDDqlo]

I'm a M2K fan. I'm pretty sure that he will eventually surpass everyone in this game, like he did w/ melee.

[@TheSavagegamer69]

Siddharta Genet as the great parapa the rapper once said "you gotta believe"

[@Flynnieman]

12:59 M2K forgot which game he was playing

[@UltraKirby464]

Are zero and mew2king still friends?

[@r2dgaming543]

... Yes, why wouldn't they be?

[@carterdebruyn8637]

+R2DGaming actually their not really good friends any more. Maybe their friends, but not good ones. Ever since MVG came around ZeRo and mew2king became distant and now I'd say more then friendship they have a rivalry.

[@r2dgaming543]

+Carter De Bruyn ... Well damn, I remember watching ZeRo's video of drunk m2k stream highlights way back, and they were talking about how good friends they were, it was actually amazing... If they aren't friends anymore that's really sad.

[@carterdebruyn8637]

Yeah it really is quite sad... would be great to see the old ZeRo and M2k stream together.

[@carterdebruyn8637]

I wouldn't be sure about that. They haven't streamed together and if you check m2k's twitter/FB you can see some irritated post about ZeRo but only on a tournament bases not in reality

[@leafeon9369]

First a close game against dabuz at Genesis 3 then a close match vs zero man his cloud is getting good

[@carpr2013]

This set was cool. I love M2K Cloud but a don't agree on most of the limit Neutral B he throws out.

[@DKMRFCBrlz]

M2K is amazing!! And Zero's playstyle is scary O.O

[@rgilX13]

Finally an enjoyable announcer.

[@r2dgaming543]

As a cloud main, m2k makes me jealous.

[@augustcelineiii946]

+R2DGaming I think he's the best Cloud around. I haven't any Clouds that play like M2K.

[@weenee4714]

8:24 Dash dance OP.

[@bidenator9760]

I love M2K's Cloud, but I feel he doesn't use his Limit wisely at all. He either goes for a ridiculous read or just throws it out there.

[@OsojiNosferatu69]

I feel the same, but I only dabbled in cloud week one so I can't really say anything besides the fact that I know he's fun to play.

[@BrickNGames]

M2K is more consistent with it than any other top Cloud

[@bidenator9760]

***** I think Komikiri uses it a lot better. He's way more patient with it. I can see why M2K uses the Limit the way he does though; sometimes I can't help but throw out off stage Finishing Touches and Crosslashes lol.

[@Massamom]

Shame the match had to end that way. I also wanted to see Zero use Diddy all the way but I guess Sheik was the safer option to finish.

[@netweed09]

This is 1 of those legendary matches in all of gaming, let alone Smash. It's funny people don't realise it as it's panning out but at a sweet spot of a HD release of a premium fighting game, it's a no brainer. Super. Giants were felled and made this match, gr8 props to Zero but sadly for m2k; this 1 set the tone for his downfall

[@jacobpullen6949]

The auto snap climmhazzard is not as difficult as it looks.