How Good Was Jason "Mew2King" Zimmerman Actually?

How Good Was Jason "Mew2King" Zimmerman Actually?
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[@JeramiJoseph]

How good do you think Mew2King would be if he competed today?

[@idofront]

He'll still be top 10, or at worst top 12 imo

[@JeramiJoseph]

@@idofront I'd love to see it! he was killing it at big house 9 making winners semis! but we haven't seen that type of play from him since.

[@farmingsim9813]

He's still got potential for sure, but his self-confidence and mental game strongly holds him back, he almost got to winner's finals in Dreamhack 2022 but sour spotted down air against Sfop game 5 and lost because of it. The overall playing field has gotten way better as well, but he could definitely make a return to top level play if he truly wanted to and worked on his mental.

[@junkmail9299]

I think he would start out top 35ish and cruise around top 20 level. Unlike Armada, I'm not sure if I believe in M2k's mental game. If M2k got a coach and was very motivated I can see him becoming one of the contenders in the top 8 again (Zain, Mango, Cody, aMSa, Hbox, Plup, Leffen, Jmook). He has all the skill to do so. But practically speaking I would imagine him hitting a wall around Axe, Kodorin, Aklo tier unless he changed things up.

[@ayrtonpavot3096]

He is the most influencial player of all time and I'm willing to fight anyone saying the contrary.

[@Nightwalker86]

I have some stories from this era of melee. 1. I played Mew2King at a ChuDat biweekly in bracket, and with the Gentleman's Clause we agreed to play with Pokeballs. I won game 2 on FD in his Sheik vs my Zelda when he threw a Pokeball at me, and I reflected it with Nayru's and killed him. And he looks at me and laughs "I forgot she could do that". 2. I teamed with Azen at some throwaway VA local event. He was so drunk he could barely hold the controller and walked around with Marth fsmashing and laughing. We still won teams. 3. Mew2King came down to ChuDat's place in 2007 where I was staying for the summer. He invited me to FCD in Indiana, and I said I couldn't go because I had no money. Jason paid for my ENTIRE TRIP. He paid someone to drive from NJ to VA to pick me up, got another NJ player (WarriorOfZarona) to drive me to Indiana, and then the entire trip in reverse. Whenever people talk about the Golden Age of Melee, it really was.

[@Ramzienator]

Umbreon as in Umbreon from Smashboards? Been a while since I've seen you around. Hope you're doing well.

[@spencerweiss6337]

#3 🥹 Goat. Truly the king

[@Jagger02]

Lol Umbreon mow. Now that's a name I haven't heard since like 15 years ago.

[@JeramiJoseph]

These stories are so good 😂 where have these been for all these years

[@Nightwalker86]

​@@JeramiJoseph there's a LOT of stories like these. I just picked a few random ones. I went to MLG Atlanta in Nov 2005 and a group of us went to Hooters for dinner next to the event. And I showed Ken my Pokemon Silver game, and he told me his Mewtwo was stronger than mine. And it was literally Gamesharked for max stats, lol. We were all just dumb 19 y/o kids man. Except HugS. Hugo was born at 35 years old.

[@cadetsparklez3300]

He was #1 in melee and brawl at the same time. No other person has been #1 in two smashes at once. So for me he is the goat

[@JeramiJoseph]

He was so sick. Miss watching him play!

[@archangel8444]

Brawl poopy

[@isuck6049]

​@@archangel8444 just because movement is shit in every smash game besides melee doesn't mean you have to like it lol, you could've just said nothing here.

[@archangel8444]

@isuck6049 Just because you have free will doesn't mean you can comment. You could've just lacked a comment.

[@MeatSnax]

Has anyone ever been the best at 2 games at the same time in the whole FGC?

[@junkmail9299]

I think M2k is rightly rated. He's the gatekeeper of being #1 for an entire year. Probably 6th best all time for me, but I can see an argument as high as 4th.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah true that! He had really high points and maintained for a very long time

[@scrottiemcnubbs5687]

You have Ken higher than him?

[@rocbot9479]

What’s your top 6?

[@junkmail9299]

1. Mango 2. Armada (Interchangeable depending on what you value) 3. Hbox 4. Ken 5. Zain 6. M2k I ranked them this way because even though Retro Ranking's gave M2k #1 in 2008, I personally think 2008 should have gone to Mango, he won the only super major Pound 3 that year and didn't lose a tournament. If you decide to give M2k #1 in 2008, I would probably put him #5 and Mango #2. I put Zain #5 because I do value 2020 as his year despite most of it being online.

[@junkmail9299]

@@scrottiemcnubbs5687 It's arguable. Only because for me Ken had 4 years as #1 even though they were early on and the game hadn't been as developed. Even though I value recent years more, that 4 year stretch hasn't been repeated by any other player. For me, M2k was really ranked #1 only during 2007 until Pound 3. M2k's longevity is amazing and his influence on the game is legendary but he was mostly on the lower end of the top top contenders from 2010 onward. And didn't win enough majors/super majors. Even though I put him #6, I can see an argument for him as high as 4th.

[@spencerweiss6337]

2:06 I think this is what solidifies his legacy for me. He pushed the competitive needle more than anyone else in the scene and it speaks volumes that his work is still being used. He deserves every ounce of respect he gets. Smash GOAT

[@JeramiJoseph]

True that. His legacy was so insane!

[@jungshin87]

there was a show match at a tournament thrown by ken's brother (infamously not publicly streamed/VOD'd and you had to buy a DVD...lmao), where m2k utterly destroys ken and toys with him later on in the sets. i personally think this is what convinced ken to retire. in the beginning its sorta compettiive, but later on m2k is just doing all kinds of wacky gimmick shit and its all working.

[@tappajaav]

@@jungshin87 Do you remember name of the tournament where this happened/year of it happening(I assume 2007?), or specific search term that could be used to find this showmatch, if you can't link an actual VOD/video? I have hard time believing it wouldn't have surfaced in internet in the many years that have passed

[@RetroGrazer]

For me M2K was the player I really looked up to in melee. His marth specifically just had this domineering style, this effortless look to how he would delete stocks, all without quite feeling as campy as he definitely was. Fun Fact he is the person with the world record for most tournaments attended lifetime, attending some near 700 tournaments from what I remember. The guy was and still is just a machine, and we love Jason for that.

[@JeramiJoseph]

He looked soooo effortless it was nuts. Wow that’s actually crazy he went to that many. I had no idea

[@ghostmetalgaming]

I feel like M2K's shortcomings existed purely outside of the game. If they had invented noise-cancelling headphones a lot earlier on, I believe things would have been way different. Regardless of numbers and statistics, Mew2King will always be my #1 Best Smash Player of All-Time.

[@JeramiJoseph]

yeah id love to see him back in the day be able to tune out crowds more. who knows how good he could have done even back then!

[@onetakehoovie5955]

Personally I would put M2K in top 5 all time. He's such a monster and his contributions to the community could be debated larger than his accomplishments as a player, which I always add to a player's 'worth' of discussion of their 'greatness'. I think what hurts his credentials,were his meddling years, where you can debate were partially due to him splitting his time with other smash games. But, like Mango, you have to give him props for being in the game as long as he was.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Easily one of the goats of melee. Hands down

[@pkness5220]

Just behind Mango Armada and Hbox for me

[@oldtownscouts3712]

I love m2k but at this point I think you would have to put zain above him

[@Landmasters]

How good was he? He took an 8 month break after Genesis, only to beat iBDW and No. 1 Hungrybox in the same tournament (and beat Hbox in a set right after, just couldn't close the Grand Finals out)

[@JeramiJoseph]

That run of his was so insane

[@WhoMightThis1Be]

I like the fact that m2k has by far the most registered tournament results in melee still and the 2nd most of any esports player in general. Like he just played so many tournaments its unreal

[@JeramiJoseph]

I found this stat out after making this video. That is absolutely insane 😂

[@alwaysbekind3548]

I think it's pretty cool how in many docs, he's seen as the one who brought the melee scene back to life at a time when it looked most grim. Much respect, M2K!

[@JeramiJoseph]

Super sick that he had such accomplishments. Especially since he was looked so down on at the beginning and now is one of the most loved

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@JeramiJoseph Yep. No matter how much people wanted to put him down, you have to respect the skill level he had.

[@Tselel]

Mew2King's Marth on FD is still one of the most beautiful things Melee has ever produced. What began as a flowchart became a work of art. Like a stained glass window where all the little pieces have their perfect place. Ay. Ay. Ay.

[@samskott2344]

I honestly think he is still the best Marth on FD.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Dude was a work of art in melee. One of the hardest working people to ever touch smash

[@cmac6345]

I always viewed mew2king as the gatekeeper. He got beat by most of the gods but the players who often rose up to beat some or all of the gods (leffen, sfat, wizzrobe) they all seemed to have the hardest time beating m2k. Where i view mang0 as the heart and soul of melee, I view m2k as the link between old school and modern melee. His marth in particular was the golden standard for a long time.

[@JeramiJoseph]

This was dope to read! I totally saw this as well!

[@TenjinZekken]

To me, I just could never respect mamgo, because outside of his melee skill, he embodies all the bad traits of the FGC. Drama stirring, sloppy, lives in his mom's basement, and just overall a bad role model for anyone who wanes the scene to grow. Players like armada, m2k, Valle, kbr, jwong, and streamers like sajam, dood, jmcroft, are all way better reps for the community if you actually want to be respected as a community. If mango is the heart and soul of melee to melee players, it really explains why the smash scene appears so gross to outsideers, because he is.

[@medkatyt]

@@TenjinZekken he is much better nowadays

[@WFOnaga]

@@medkatytI can agree with that, he’s a much more organized person now

[@cottonmather8146]

Easily one of the best. Pioneered a lot of fundamentals you see players especially with Marth. He wrote the book on how to punish spacies that everyone followed until Zain improved it further (I never thought PPMD's punishes on spacies with Marth were as consistent or efficient). Despite this however, when you go back and watch a lot of classic old sets, it's very infuriating to see how much he got away with in the neutral game, and how much of it would be (and was considered at the time) gimmicky. His neutral was more of a 7.5 in a sea of 9-10's (Armada, PPMD, Mango, and Hbox later on) which is why he couldn't be top 3 in the era of the Gods

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah he paved the road for so much we have today!

[@danielclark612]

I'm new. What's a spacey?

[@JeramiJoseph]

@@danielclark612 short for space animal. Fox or falco 👍🏻

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

I think a lot of people forget that time there was a tourney with Smash 4, Project M and Melee all going on at the same time. All three games had Singles and Doubles. He won Teams in all 3 games, came in first in two of the games and came in second place, I think in Melee. He was definitely the Smash Goat when measured across all games.

[@JeramiJoseph]

that is actually so insane lol. do you know which tournament it was?

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

@@JeramiJoseph All I remember is it was pretty close to Smash 4's launch and before Nintendo made everyone stop hosting PM tournaments.

[@flopraiser7504]

9:10 secret smash handshake

[@JeramiJoseph]

LOL

[@ShamrockShakee]

I think the joy of watching M2K was truly the roller coaster of “is he on today or is he off” Because when M2K is on, it’s crazy to see him play, but when he’s off… you just can’t help but shake your head.

[@JeramiJoseph]

But his tournaments he did well were so fun to watch 😂

[@ShamrockShakee]

@@JeramiJoseph right! That marth combo you included was spectacular.

[@volvomoneygang1178]

I def got a soft spot for the robot, he was the first top player I saw footage of on KZbin with my brother and older cousin. Did not know what I was signing up for at that time in 06 but it entailed in a lifelong journey one that has no end in sight. Met some of the sickest people thru this scene

[@drchowder4605]

M2K is easily the best overall smash player of all time. Top competitor in every game, and contributed so much to the community.

[@JeramiJoseph]

He was revolutionary to smash. Miss seeing him compete!

[@timmasters1195]

Sorry what? Top competitor in 2 games, never a top player in Ult, 4 or 64.

[@GregTheHeffster]

I'd say M2K is 4th best of all time simply due to his longevity and his dominance in 07-08 and late 2013.Some place Ken higher, but Ken was never able to come back and hang with the new crowd, M2K proved time and time again that he could

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah I’m right there with ya.

[@itsbmeGaming]

In Ken’s defense he was on the rise before wrist pain forced him to retire.

[@Kradrice]

Mew2king is an absolute gem in the smash community. His dedication and skill in every game is unmatched. The best overall Smash player. GOAT!

[@JeramiJoseph]

He was insane at all games, so cool to see how cracked he was

[@stop_drop]

A lot of people don't know that m2k actually had the best results of 2013, being up in the h2h against Mango 8-4 and his worst loss being against hbox/ppmd (depending who you think was worse that year). Meanwhile Mango, who got ranked first, had losses to Ice and PewpewU. The rest of their h2h records that year are pretty similar. The 2013 rankings in general showed a lot of legacy bias rather than just looking at the results in that 12 month period (Wobbles should have been higher, Hax$ and Kirbykaze lower, etc)

[@JeramiJoseph]

Oh wow that’s crazy! It def would have been super wild to see m2k go from number 1 in the world from 07-08 and 2013!

[@Goofzillers]

Mew2King will always be my favorite player, at least when it comes to Melee. I loved watching him compete.

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s so awesome! Watching compete was super sick back then. Especially when he came back at big house 9 and went on a run!

[@oughtopilot]

Favorite moment is when Mew2King swept the entire crew, 16-0, in the 0C3 crew battle. Against Ken and Isai too. Ultimately he had some insane losers runs but was often never able to close the deal in singles. But crews and doubles he was always insane.

[@JeramiJoseph]

He was maybe even the GOAT at crews and doubles. He only has a debate against armada for dubs. Crews he sounded like a monster 😂

[@samskott2344]

His run at UGC in 2016 was one of the best losers runs in history. It's sad that he wasn't able to win the 2nd set against Armada, because that would arguably have been THE best losers run ever. But it was still insane.

[@oughtopilot]

@@samskott2344 agreed man. That was one heck of a run. Same with Super Smash Con 2018. But UGC would have definitely been more impressive.

[@eftorq]

People can’t imagine how hard it is to be good at two smash titles at the same time. For a period of time I played Melee, P+ & Ultimate on the same evenings with my buddy and sometimes my hands locked up and couldn’t perform in one game. Even in the same game switching a character mid set is insanely hard on top level. M2K will forever be my favourite smash player!

[@JeramiJoseph]

M2K was such a game changer! In the whole community!!

[@dr_rl123]

I relate to Jason so much on a mental level, but he'll always be seen as such a great player in not just Smash Bros. but video games in general. I have no idea if he'll ever finish the book he was working on, but I would 100% buy it if he ever finished and released it.

[@dr_rl123]

Also he was really good in PM at one point, and is argubly the best smash coach ever from training people like Sparg0 and MkLeo if I'm right

[@JeramiJoseph]

I can’t wait for his book! Will be a fun read. He was really the smash master!

[@LloydFreakingIrving]

Loving this series! Hope you keep making them :)

[@JeramiJoseph]

Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoy. It’s comments like these that make me so excited for more. Between us, I have the next one already in the works 🤫

[@Jayluna98]

Great video! You've made some awesome content lately

[@JeramiJoseph]

Thank you so much! Super happy to see stuff like this 😄

[@MrDfromjersey]

Damn been hearing about this dude forever and he lived miles away this whole time. Pretty cool.

[@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr]

You kinda breezed over him COOOOOOOOOOOOKING Leffen..

[@hunterramirez8348]

Congratulations on beating M2K! You’re my new favorite smasher now

[@JeramiJoseph]

Hell yeah 😂😍

[@Bludgeoned2DEATH2]

Bro imagine learning your first major opponent ever is going to be fucking Mew2King omg 💀

[@redd91]

I got to play M2K in melee a fair bit in 2007, I was still in high school and couldn't go to much outside of the region but made it to several Chu biweeklies. To this day I don't think there has ever been someone more ahead of the pack by the margin that he was (including Armada)... it was messed up. LOL great vid :)

[@JeramiJoseph]

Thank you so much 😄 so dope you were playing so early

[@robertfrost6421]

Lol the thumbnail is classic

[@JeramiJoseph]

Probably the best pic to come out of smash lol

[@lurimay997]

I guess it also says a lot that a lot of the considered best sets in history are between him and armada (smash con and canada cup). He really is one of the GOATs imo

[@CrosserxD]

Bro the fist bump of armada at 14:18 is so wholesome. He is genuinely happy for him

[@fly7188]

Heres the thing, winning every match is not likely for anyone no matter how good, so looking at how often he placed in the top 3 and even top 10 says a lot about how good he is.

[@Dyleniz]

I remember that smash summit I was such a massive M2K fan during that era before being won over by Zain but that marth is still a work of art on FD

[@JeramiJoseph]

Such a sick run. I remember watching that too!

[@corbindewaal7294]

who was the guy blurred out at 5:16 and why

[@T1J]

i got to play m2k once in melee and once in brawl. absolute destruction each time of course. there was always all this talk about how weird and awkward he was and I guess he was that but in my experience he liked to laugh and have fun. i dont know why i'm talkin about him like he's dead or something LOL but definitely top 3 all time if we're going off pure legacy. and also he proved that if he focuses on a game he could still beat anyone in the world on any given day

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s hype you gotta play him back in the day. Dude was a monster at any game he touches. Glad he still plays to this day 😄

[@TheCalisthenicKing]

Lmaooo that thumbnail will never get old

[@JeramiJoseph]

Shit is golden !

[@sheldon903]

Why is dj nintendo's face censored at 5:13 lol

[@4sfield527]

Who is that blured out at 5:15 ? DJ?

[@adamquenano8563]

All time he’s the 4th best player ever in melee, in smash he’s the GOAT.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Agreed!

[@Xivinux]

My favorite ever. Love Armada and Mang0 but M2K is special. His sheik was so elegant, maybe not the combo's you see today but his sheik had style and elegance.

[@JeramiJoseph]

So sick he was your fav! A lot of his fans are coming out this video! I miss seeing him play too

[@asterixdx]

All time he’s probably my 5th favourite singles, and my favourite doubles player. Absolute fucking king 👑

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s so hype 😄

[@SkrappyQ]

Without M2K, Melee wouldn't have made it past 2007. Neither Marth or Shiek would be played how they are. Some of the places I see people ranking him are absolutely insane.

[@The_removal_artist]

Him rocking the bk crown before the plane guy is OG

[@JeramiJoseph]

OML 😂

[@Krass.Estranged]

Ive seen that picture in the thumbnail hundreds of times online over the years and never realised it was mew2king.

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s actually hilarious lol

[@greghuffman3061]

he looks like my warcraft 3 compatriot Alex "ricethebackstab" Sabol

[@dynamic283]

Love to see this style video for Melee after seeing it with UFC fighters

[@JeramiJoseph]

Glad you enjoyed it! I actually got the inspiration for this vid on an NFL video!

[@andreperez8961]

I came for the thumbnail.

[@xXspringsXx]

Is it just me or is the algorithm spot on lately with promoting up an coming KZbinrs… I keep getting these awesome videos made by people with less than 10k subs it’s been refreshing

[@JeramiJoseph]

I hope so! Glad you found the channel and enjoy the stuff! Appreciate it dawg! 😄

[@Dan_PM]

One thing I value about M2k and why I have him ranked 4th ever is just the sheer amount he pioneered for how the game is played today. Also just insane volume of quality performances.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah he truly evolved the meta and has changed the game in so many ways

[@adamquenano8563]

M2K forever will be my favorite Smash player ever

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s so hype 😍

[@DemonAngels7]

Man, knowing some of the history of these people are very interesting videos, get better and better

[@ashtar8630]

So I asked him in his twitch chat if he feels that Melee or Brawl was his best game. He said Brawl.

[@JeramiJoseph]

He dominated for a lot longer, I can see that for sure

[@junkyardsoul3757]

When I was following melee, I always considered m2k as an s minus ranked player. He was kind of the gatekeeper to the absolute top-level. Always in top 8 serving as a barricade for the guys trying to break through to the top, while still capable of breaking out and beating the other top players but not very consistently. Some players would be able to beat Mango or Leffen here and there, but would get smothered by m2k. If they couldn't get by him, there's no way they would get through Armada and Hbox. There were a few lower ranked players that did well against his style and also the occasional lolm2k tourney, but for the most part he was always there to smack aspiring players back down to earth. I always loved seeing m2k do well the most out of any player, and any mango vs m2k set was guaranteed to be a banger.

[@naudiatf2791]

feel like i saw this video months ago, why was this reuploaded? o_O

[@JeramiJoseph]

I def never made this before 😅 just finished it and uploaded for the first time!

[@mikenukerudy160]

epic! good stuff Jeremy

[@JeramiJoseph]

Appreciate it Mike! 😍

[@mylittlepimo736]

I don’t think M2K’s proficiency at Brawl can be overstated enough. He wasn’t just the top player, he was untouchable. IIRC he never lost a single set in tournament in Brawl’s first year.

[@JeramiJoseph]

It’s so insane how good he was at both games. Dude really is the smash master

[@kode-man23]

One piece of underrated M2K lore that you left out, and I really wish that you would have touched on: Look up his loser's run at UGC, a late 2016 tournament. He is responsible for THE single greatest loser's run of all time, and had he managed to complete it, this would be the greatest tournament win in the history of Melee. I feel like it never really gets brought up, and it is by far his most impressive accomplishment.

[@JeramiJoseph]

Oh my god you’re so right. I totally forgot about this! That tournament was unheard of for him to do especially a losers run. M2k had so much good stuff to talk about about. Thank you for pointing this out though!

[@kode-man23]

@@JeramiJoseph Yeah it's crazy how everyone just kind of forgot about this one haha. It's what I think of when I think of prime-M2K. Good content, by the way. I love the "How Good Was___" format a lot.

[@FirePuff12]

No Pound 3 is still the greatest losers run of all time. If he completed it it’d be debatable

[@Bitter-Wounds]

Legit did not know that thumbnail pic was m2k 😂

[@JeramiJoseph]

😂😂😂

[@poffpoff1]

Who is censored out at 5:16? And why?

[@rubinong]

Whats the song at 2:38 called again? Man the nostalgia is strong with this one

[@JeramiJoseph]

Machinimasound Queen of the night. Got ya dawg

[@rubinong]

@@JeramiJoseph thanks brotha

[@JeramiJoseph]

@@rubinong gotcha homie

[@TheDobleQ]

To me there’s two players that pushed forward Melee. One is HBox, there was a point in history where everyone was trying to beat his Puff and developing techs to do it Armada developed Young Link and perfected Fox. And the other is M2K, he contributed so much in the early stage of Melee to even make it a truly competitive game. There’s no Melee esport scene without him. To me he is top 3. 1. Armada 2. Hungrybox 3. M2K

[@onysill7222]

1:15 are his glasses just resting on his nose?

[@JeramiJoseph]

I thought the exact same thing 😂😂😂 I think he had the other side of his glasses around his ear, but hard to tell in the pic lol

[@loganfoote622]

Glad to see him playing SF6 now!

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah, super dope he’s still playing something!

[@nategraham1487]

Goated thumbnail

[@MoneyBark]

Gotta love M2K. Very polite and respectable character.

[@JeramiJoseph]

I love you

[@mrm64]

M2K IS The 4th best Melee player of all time, idc. The man was in the top 8 for 15+ YEARS. He was the brige between Ken and Mang0, two different eras. He was THE one to beat. And the man was number one in both Melee AND Brawl, AT THE SAME TIME. No other player in history has that title. Yeah, Mang0, Hbox and Armada have arguments for best Melee player of all time, but none of them dominated Brawl or placed high any ANY other Smash game. M2K did. He's the Smash GOAT until proven otherwise and I'll die on that hill. I'll never forget seeing his Dashizwiz set back in the 2000s and I didn't even know Smash had a competitive scene at the time (I was an oblivious scrub who played with items lol). Good times...

[@JeramiJoseph]

Yeah I’m in the same boat that he’s number 4!

[@isthatdunn]

best thumbnail I've ever seen

[@JeramiJoseph]

I can’t take the credit for it 😂

[@Vegemitetoast24]

@5:20 who’s blurred?

[@EZdelFresco]

Mew2King is my all time favorite smash player and the reason I even took an interest in the competitive scene almost 15 years ago. Great video.

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s so sick. Appreciate you watching dawg ❤️

[@puunk_9240]

At low tier city 2 in 2014, mew2king was in all 4 events' grand finals. He got first in melee singles, second in melee doubles, first in project m doubles, and first in project m singles.

[@JeramiJoseph]

That is absolutely insane 😂

[@frubam]

"I am just participating in one small part of the middle of the ride and there are many talented people who helped build the ride before me and there'll be many talented people who help finish off the ride after me."

[@morebanks_]

I was wishing for him to shave his hair the entire video 🤣 glad he finally did at the end, he looks much better 👍

[@novadmd1118]

He’s was the best at both games for like 2 years!! He’s the goat

[@JeramiJoseph]

He was undeniably incredible at smash

[@novadmd1118]

@@JeramiJoseph hbox next 👀

[@rrrrog]

He may not be the highest rated god but I love watching M2K play when he's at his peak. He is an absolute beast and you can really see his game knowledge shine through. He is tied with Mango for my favorite player.

[@JeramiJoseph]

So glad to see his fans coming in hot for this vid!

[@niezyje8922]

man is fully bald now, accepted his fate

[@Rafikichu]

He's the GOAT of Smash, and I put him at #4 all time in Melee only behind HBox, Armada, and Mango. For me, his accomplishments and tenure far outshine those of Ken, Leffen, Zain, PPMD and everybody else.

[@JeramiJoseph]

He’s no doubt the smash goat. Yeah I put him there 100%!

[@boomstickYT]

Would be cool to see him compete again, he's a likeable guy I think.

[@JPrince6]

His last name Zimmerman man? Damn and that thumbnail with the Burger King crown…

[@JeramiJoseph]

He’s a legend

[@Hershgee]

Another top tier doc video Jerami 👌🏾❤️

[@JeramiJoseph]

Appreciate it homie ❤️

[@woodenhouse8531]

He is a legend, thats the answer

[@jason-sp8nb]

I just love stuff like this best players in the world thankyou for making this video

[@JeramiJoseph]

Of course! Glad you enjoyed! I have a bunch more on the channel 😄

[@tonydigital808]

M2k is who I’d consider the absolute Melee expert. His knowledge of the game can not be overstated. He may not be the best of the best but his knowledge is unmatched

[@JeramiJoseph]

Even to this day I still think he has the most knowledge!

[@julioluque2589]

The day Mew2king comes back to a tournament they need to play Stone Cold Steve Austin’s theme song while he walks in.

[@JeramiJoseph]

😂

[@biblical_figure]

I miss this man

[@thelordkingsim]

Finally, I was waiting for this one

[@JeramiJoseph]

Glad you were excited for this! Hope you enjoy 😁

[@thelordkingsim]

@@JeramiJoseph twas a great episode 😎 mew2king4life man

[@mayonnnnnaise]

That thumbnail always cracks me up. I ate dinner at her house, with her boyfriend once. Great hosts, considering we were all college students.

[@JeramiJoseph]

That’s so funny lol

[@danielrabinovitz478]

As someone on the Autism Spectrum, think it's a little weird that you talk about M2K's social difficulties, problems reading other players, and extreme technical dedication to the game without bringing up that he's on the Autism Spectrum. It's an important part to include in his story because it has influenced everything from his dedication to the game to his play style to his offbeat and quirky sense of humor that he's famous for. One common Autism symptom is that we got overstimulated by sensory stimuli very easily. He probably dropped out of sandstorm because of the strobe lights. Those are a killer sensory trigger for people on the spectrum and a lot of us can't handle strobe lights for longer than a few minutes at a time. M2K's difficulties playing while crowds are cheering against him are also probably an Autism thing just as much as they are a psychological thing, because a lot of people on the Autism spectrum struggle greatly with loud noises, and our sensory problems get worse when we're stressed or under pressure. These are just a couple of examples but I really can't stress enough how many times his Autism diagnosis comes up in the varying stories I've heard about M2K.

[@JeramiJoseph]

I really appreciate you bringing this up. Though it’s known and people have been told by him that m2k has autism, he hasn’t stated it publicly I don’t believe. I know he has said publicly in a video that he has a caretaker though. It felt like it wasn’t my place to bring it up since he hasn’t said it to my knowledge. I asked my girlfriend who’s brother has autism and she said it was best I don’t mention it if I can’t find him saying first hand that he has it. I wanted to be as respectful as possible without assuming what he has. I hope this helps 😄

[@drifter402]

I think the exact opposite.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

5:29 M2K with DaShizWiz's hat on 😂

[@JeramiJoseph]

He’s the legend 😂

[@JeramiJoseph]

Quite the pic lol

[@deliciousfewd]

6:26 Pretty sure it's Cutting-edge Games Conference... at San Francisco State University... 19?

[@JeramiJoseph]

thank god you now lol. I was stumped haha

[@c1recha0s]

M2K is honestly my favorite smash player of all time. And I would put him in top 3 of all time. Mango, Armada, Mew2king

[@Gnarfledarf]

1:45 Don't put these intrusive subscription "reminders" in your videos.

[@003scorn]

M2ks intellect is his most Valuable asset. He created frame data charts, alone, in his room, for years. Before anyone would even consider doing anything of the sort

[@JeramiJoseph]

Dude is actually a genius

[@jackcampbell2021]

Bros got the Toby McGuire charm

[@typhlosion7872]

Easily my favorite esports competitor of all time and it's not close. Been watching Jason for over a decade

[@JeramiJoseph]

The Jason fans are coming out this vid! It’s so exciting!

[@typhlosion7872]

@@JeramiJoseph Interesting enough, I was able to talk a lot with Jason through commenting on one of his twitch streams about his autism because both of us have the same kind of autism, that being Asperger's Syndrome. We talked a ton about how when we're down even the slightest bit, everything just snowballs down hill awfully and how we get extremely in depth and overanalytical about things we enjoy, but have extreme trouble putting any focus into things we don't have interest in. That's probably what makes him my favorite player, not the autism, but how he feels human. He's not some unstoppable, impenetrable force like 2019 and early 2020 Ultimate MKLeo or early smash 4 ZeRo, he's a real person who struggles with emotion, with tilt, who has his demons and who, no matter how hard he fights, he can't overcome them. It's nice to see a storyline where the protagonist isn't unbeatable

[@JeramiJoseph]

@@typhlosion7872 yeah this was a very awesome response to see. And I wanted to touch on those types of things that he struggled with as a competitor. But it didn’t really feel like my place to say everything, especially since he hasn’t come out on his channel or anything saying he explicitly has Asperger’s. Didn’t want to over step any boundaries. But he really overcame some serious shit and became an amazing competitor. I can’t wait to read his book where I bet will have everything. I also find it so cool you get inspiration from mew2king with your guys similarities. That is so dope to hear

[@inf_echo4200]

hey man great video i think this will hit the algorithim well

[@JeramiJoseph]

Thank you so much! I hope it does! Excited for people to see it 😄