Payday 2: Copycat Is INSANE - GAMEBREAKING Copycat Anarchist Build

[@TheKknowley]

Just a quick update on the confusing mechanics of the build: Overkill have informed me that Grace Period is only meant to activate upon taking damage that causes you to drop below half health (as I mention in the video.) As of right now, this is only true some of the time. When your armour breaks and you are already below half health, both immunities will activate simultaneously as your armour breaks, so you will only get 2 seconds of immunity in total. This is certainly weaker than what I describe in this video, but is not the way the deck is intended to work! Hopefully there will be a fix in the coming weeks to see just how good this synergy really can be!

[@taxa1569]

Waiiitttt a minute.... That... means we don't need the anarchist card specifically to trigger a 2 second invuln? We can pseudo trigger it with preemptively low health... ? That's giving me ideas man... Let's just say... When's the last OP berserker build you remember hearing about/using... It may not work how I think... But damn it I'm going to try anyway while it's still 'broken'

[@ivanvasiliyvich9745]

Thanks for confirming this.

[@usernamerequired788]

@@taxa1569 you might be able to use frenzy but the heals from headshots wouldn’t work well

[@taxa1569]

@@usernamerequired788not quite actually. Aced frenzy for the damage reduction and no healing reduction. The heals are more effective per hit point because of the DR. But! It seems that either CC Stoic can't trigger grace period, I'm blind and couldn't see it, or... Grace period can't activate because your health never goes over half health to begin with. BUT ALSO Berserker CC Stoic is ridiculously good anyway! First try beat a safe house defense on death sentence. From someone who plays almost exclusively solo, I'm not the best at loud heists to begin with, but a ctv CC stoic, with berserker/frenzy/AR skills can 2 shot body shot everything up to taser's (3 shot) with high damage AR's/LMG's. Haven't tested much more than that because of time limitations though.

[@CoopaiNuse]

so there is no anarchist damage invulnurabilty, and there isn't supposed to be?

[@TheKknowley]

Yes, I meant to say 2023 at 0:39. We’re only four days into it and I’m already forgetting what year it is…

[@Game-vi2od]

hey, tell me please, what HUD you use? it's look's cool!

[@jolstyn]

@@Game-vi2od VanillaHUD Plus ;)

[@Game-vi2od]

@@jolstyn thx man :D

[@TheKknowley]

Oh and a second addendum: Suit regen with Anarchist is 2 seconds, not 1! I’ve know that for years, apologies for the misinformation!

[@Game-vi2od]

@@TheKknowley ok thx you. And, i have a chance to ask you, so i will. So, what do you think about PAYDAY 3. I mean, it will have the same problems as a second payday (i mean DLC)? (sry 4 englis)

[@thebiolibrary5572]

What I like about Copycat is that, intentionally or not, it makes armored Stoic its own thing because it only takes the perk that adds the deck's gimmick, and Stoic is better defined by "All damage is now D.O.T." than "Your armor is added to your health." Plus it specifically takes whatever perk gives you a throwable.

[@papaspectral]

Im running at the moment a Copycat grinder build using dodge and tombstone slugs on the steak out 12g. Using this build i've done 16 rounds of whitehouse on DSOD without capture solo and im really proud of that.

[@gibustheinfamous]

when tombstone slugs came out my FIRST thought was steakout/aa12. glad to know its viable

[@ethanmullett4799]

Haven't gotten around to Copy-Anarchist yet, I'll have to give these builds a try! I've been having fun with Dutch Courage with the SG 51D LMG and Poison China Puff on Deathwish, and it's been pretty effective! Noticed the Copycat reload perk doesn't actually require that you're holding the same weapon when counting the 10 kills, so as long as you can keep choke points poisoned it's really good at keeping your weapons loaded

[@HennerzLennerz]

It wasn't going to take very long till we found out just how versatile this perk deck really could be, and how busted it can be when you can take from the best other perk decks to supplement this one. As such, might be prudent to ban the use of this deck from any future challenge runs that are made, just because of its innate versatility. Running around with this deck in challenge runs i feel would drop the difficulty a little too much, just like how Stoic trivialized the Robin Hood Challenge. Call it preemptive, I call it noticing a problem before it becomes one.

[@TheKknowley]

Interestingly, it might not be quite a good for the Challenge run format where you have to level up the deck gradually. It's probably too versatile to fit into most challenges thematically though!

[@pennydime4562]

@@TheKknowley or you could also use the deck but intentionally pick bellow average or non-synergising perks to handicap it

[@NA-uz7co]

We are talking about overkill, it was going to be busted or useless, there is no other option

[@emred4653]

Full health copycat grinder is really fun. You can build crits and get movespeed (especially the one that gives speed when your armour breaks) and run around at lighting speed dealing massive damage

[@resty4815]

dodge grinder dodging will return the bullet = triggers grinder healing

[@user-sb7wj1vn4x]

@@resty4815 grinder healing is too little on dsod tho

[@gamermoment4641]

@@user-sb7wj1vn4x see, this is why I choose to have fun and bs my way through an overkill heist with three revolvers and a dream.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

@@user-sb7wj1vn4x that's put it midly plus copycat grinders healing is half of max regular grinder.

[@benryder1213]

I tried this and i can confirm this is really fun

[@onji5213]

Full health hacker just feels like cheating. PCMs are already broken. 414 health makes you a tank constantly healing and stunning everyone in the area EDIT: Forgot to mention. I highly recommend giving piglet a try now. With Copycat you no longer have to reload it. Grab a Wasp as secondary and you got mayhem in your hands

[@NardNF]

I don't think copycat's PCMs are supposed to heal you, are they? Cause PCM healing is a separate card in hacker

[@mouthwide0pen]

Don't the Copycat PCMs *only* stun? You don't have all those dodge perks. And you already didnt need to reload Piglet if you ran electric grenades since you could just shoot yourself to reload.

[@questionot_my_stopidiomord2715]

@@NardNF card 2 on copycat gives 10 health on headshot

[@slimeblue4873]

It's amazing seeing builds slowly stray further and further away from inspire aced mainly because perk decks give you enough survivability to just pick people up manually. A couple years ago it was always a "must have" skill for online play

[@magicxmc27]

The best thing about Copycat is people can't see your personal Copycat setup, so you can use fun stuff like this without being kicked from lobbies for being suboptimal

[@zackfoster3208]

i got 2400 hours in this game and nearly only play weird builds, yet I nearly never get kicked because of my build, I never know what you guys do that you get kicked

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

@@zackfoster3208 Maybe these dudes are trying to get into dsod with meme builds or something. I think as long as you aren't on the hardest difficulty people don't really care what build you bring.

[@flyerboy991]

As someone who hates NGBTO with a passion, this is something I should really keep in mind.

[@simonsoupshark8009]

for example copy biker. which is a personal favorite of mine. tried it as a one off for a holdout loadout but then realized it was genuinely fun untill you go above mayhem, at which point it drops off somewhat

[@daedulas316]

I made a similar build when Copycat came out utilizing BB but with health instead of dodge. The combo of the pigley plus crit SMG was really good, and the 2 different 2 second god modes + the armor regen make it really hard to die.

[@thedootlord]

Same but I used lions rawr+judge because I couldn't find a good sign to pair with it.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

@@thedootlord parabellum pistol is always a good one only downside is no shield pen.

[@ylyxa]

My go-to copycat build actually ended up pretty similar to the one in this video. Compared to yours, I drop the entire inspire branch, some enforcer skills, and akimbos. Instead I go up the joker tree all the way up to hostage taker, ace SB and LB, and use the AK17 instead of the akimbos. But the real highlight of my build (imo) is the ordnance bag. I'm really growing to love the (basically) free revives it gives me for 0 skill point investment. Flashbangs for dayssss.

[@ivanvasiliyvich9745]

I played around with a setup like this, minus the dodge, when the deck came out. I found that since you only get 20 armor, you are always one shot away from blitzkrieg bop. This means that this ability is almost always on cool down and cannot be relied upon when you are in actual danger. With anarchist, you get a enough armor with suit and joker to take a shot from a zeal heavy and 2 from a light before blitzkrieg needs to be up. Also, anarchist has built in armor gating in terms of doing damage and just passively, which once again extends survivability. From playing, I also noticed that the 2 sec invincibility from copycat may not proc if you have a sliver of health, even when it's off cool down. For this reason, getting all hp and joker to get 2 shot heavy HP procs the invincibility a lot more reliably. This also means that your invincibility won't proc from one heavy shot at full HP, once again allowing you to tank more. I don't really know everything about this deck yet, but from my initial impressions I don't think a build like this fully takes advantage of it's strengths. I will say though I am am a pure rng dodge hater because sometimes you just get destroyed no matter what.

[@TheKknowley]

I get you. I was actually sceptical at first too, as an Anarchist main, hence why I didn’t give it the time of day in my first Copycat video. I’ve had tonnes of fun with this one since trying it out though!

[@ivanvasiliyvich9745]

@@TheKknowley yeah nvm. I played with a copycat dodge/blitzkrieg and due to dodge, blitzkrieg actually doesn't get procced every time so you actually can play around it pretty easy. Definitely a strong setup. I still think I prefer full HP, especially with grinder and damage over time weapons, as I think it's only way to get 3 hit heavy HP without any jokers.

[@lavandereisly4194]

Personally, for Copycat builds, I've been using Stoic ICTV cause it's basically 2/9 Stoic but you actually get a full perk deck, running all 4 health boost cards for a total of over 600 total health between armor and health.

[@CarrotIsBad]

Truly a glow up for dire need 🙏

[@KJ.420]

I've been running this build for a week now, and it's really damn good. This is probably the second build ever that i got from youtube that turned out to be actually decent. This build is so powerful at times that i can destroy 2 minigun dozers back to back without even thinking and just reload the pepe bizons and clean the whole hallway out of zeal units. Doing No Mercy and undercover, rats, cook off, etc. solo has never been easier.

[@Ttvsoullessreapergaming]

Cries in console player 😢

[@basicname1555]

Laughs in Gameboy advance

[@thejuggercat]

Cries in poor (aka cries in Roblox notoriety lmao)

[@fraser._.5878]

*cries in Nokia*

[@memelover-pf4jx]

Cries in super Nintendo entertainment system (snes)

[@mofoman1239]

Just cries

[@TigerKirby215]

I've been having a lot of fun turning non-dodge decks into dodge decks with Copycat. In particular I've really been enjoying Grinder's "Adrenaline" perk card along with max dodge running Akimbo Brothers Grimm DF shotguns and a Judge with the new Tombstone rounds in my secondary slot, serving to kill enemies at longer ranges. It's probably not DSOD viable but with how I play the game (grinding for Infamy in Overkill / Mayhem lobbies) it's really good. You don't need a lot of skill points to make the build work since you're relying on Dodge and Grinder health regen to keep alive, meaning that you can basically just grab Partners in Crime Aced and be sorted for health. Along with the basic armor skills, dodge skills, and crit skills (no Unseen Strike but Low Blow is godly) you can instead focus on getting Aced Inspire which is practically mandatory in pub lobbies. It's a really good build if you're at level 60 or so after having just gone Infamous and don't want to grind out stealth missions to power level.

[@somerandomgamer8504]

Still love my dodge Biker build; constant armour gating between it and Bullseye, constantly healing up between Head Games and Biker, and that extra bit of dodge from the deck and SB along with crits? Chef's kiss- Ran it with a secondary flamethrower and a CAR 4 just to have fun with the auto reload!

[@TheAtomicToaster]

If you do another TF2 run, perhaps you could do Scout? I've come up with some rules that seem fair but change as you like. -Weapons can only be double barrel shotguns, pistols, and base ball bat melees. -Your build must be based around dodge -Your only throwable can be Throwing Axes (similar to the Flying Guillotine weapon in tf2) Tune to your liking, this is just the run specific rules

[@Sav3_St4te]

While I haven't been sticking it in my builds, a couple of my friends have been taking a poison-themed Gridner build I put together and adapting it using Copycat Grinder (which I find kinda funny)

[@silverwarrior8142]

Another pretty fun build I made is stoic dodge. If you pick hp bonus from all the decks, your hp caps at 414. Since no kevlar is needed to be used, you can make a 3 concealment crit build but with 400+ hp as backup. Although it is broken and impossible to properly balance, copycat is fun!

[@akipuffy]

"It's pretty good...might be too good." -Every perk deck/weapon in Payday 2 on release

[@Jordan-kk4iu]

This one immediatly stood out to me an it has next to nothing in skill point requirements. You have plenty of points after you get sneaky and crits to spend on any weapon class you want or jokers if you so please. Shotguns/snipers graze / smg or akimbo pistols. Very powerfull

[@artemis7081]

i took the liberty of notarising the weapon setups akimbo totonka: medved r4 suppresor concealment boost auto fire stealth laser module ak rubber grip uzi: the bigger the better suppresor concealment boost auto fire tactical foregrip stealth laser module riktpunkt magnifier compact profile sight folded stock

[@Carwinley]

Once I saw that Copycat let you take Dodge and 20-armour Anarchist, I knew something like this would be coming, but didn't have the time to sit down and figure out exactly how. It reminds me of a custom perk deck mod I played with once; that 1-second armour regen is *amazing* at covering the weaknesses of Dodge - if I have a 40% chance to not get hit, that means there's a 60% chance I will get hit, and that means that I'll eventually take 2 hits in a row, which for Dodge is just a death sentence. If my armour is guaranteed to recover by any amount every second though, then it doesn't matter - I'm not going to get hit 3 times in the span of a single second unless I'm doing something ungodly, especially with the game having a grace period on getting hit that I believe is 0.5s or so.

[@ZachariusStorkanus]

Honestly burglar copycat with snipers is fun and works basically as "rogue but with health regen. Especially taking double jokers, the nontarget chance gives you an easier time lining up heads.

[@lau1138]

Also i recommend trying Copycat Maniac with max health from copycat other cards and joker with hostage taker aced quick fix aced and underdog aced for more demage reduction. I have managed to finish ds alaskan deal with bots with 3 downs and those downs were at the end when trying to escape with the boat.

[@Th3Supr3m3]

PSA IMPORTANT: Anarchist (and thus, its copycat edition) have been nerfed, and the abilities DIRE NEED and SECOND WIND do NOT work with it anymore.

[@giveluminacat10nobles21]

Kinda hope the customization is maybe a hint towards more customizable heisters. I would love a customizer tbh, having the old crew as an option as well

[@nobbl211]

I find that Copycat is the final Key to unleashing the potential of arguably the strongest weapon combo one could imagine: a primary, and a secondary sniper rifle; the former of course being the Thanatos .50 Cal. Using both the fast swap speed & the auto reloading feature, one can DPS away against regular enemies with the Pronghorn, and quickly 1HKO dozers (provided both faceplate & visor are removed) with the Thanatos. As for the rest of the deck, I find it plays best into an HP play-style, so 1st option card for cards 1, 3, 5 & 7, and Biker as mimic, providing some armor gating, and healing stronger than one assume, in addition to the 10 HP per headshot from the deck natively, of which one will get quite some with this build. Skills for such build come rather organically: 30 points in Medic up to inspire aced, for FAK deploy, 30 points in Controller for 2 Jokers (and even more healing), 33 points in sharpshooter (acing Ammo Efficiency, Aggressive Reload & Graze), usual Tank setup with 7 points for bullseye basic (for even more armor gating), Underdog to get 1HKO breakpoints against Tasers&Co. even up close occasionally, Duck and Cover as always, and from Silent Killer: Optical Illusion, The Professional, and High Value Target, the last of them aced, for those juicy breakpoints. And finally: Nine Lives aced. I just cannot but think that this is the way Payday 2 was always meant to be played, with this specific build so strongly profiting from both Perks and Skills, using perhaps the best weapon category in the current meta.

[@beans3757]

Never beaten holdout by myself. Now that I got my new account, I bet older players are wondering how an infamy 1 is carrying them lol. Thanks for the great build!

[@nylonzero9048]

I'm personally a fan of Kingpin copycat, cause I can't use it otherwise. And also, since you still register hits in Grace Period, that means you can actually heal all the damage you take in that period.

[@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer]

You can get kingpin through 3rd party key sellers. I got mine that way. I have kingpin, scarface and his weapons aswell.

[@fearthedukefeartheduke5916]

@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer this is free tho

[@nylonzero9048]

@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyer Yes, but, 1: A lot of it could be untrustworthy. 2: As Fear said, it's free.

[@rakesiar]

@@AvarageYakuzaEnjoyerHow much would that cost?

[@bluvsred9266]

Damn, i really appreciate your "discovery" of Dire need and Heavy impact! These perks are a total tool, really great for Grinder builds because turning every enemy into a walking first aid kit is so much fun and i dont really need damage boosting skills with it as stun locking enemies is enough for me with Grinder as i almost never find myself with having any armor, that coupled with Copy-Cats health boosts can give you up to 460 health total, totally negating your slow health regen especially if you are careful. And withouth investing into weapon damage skills i can spend them into higher health regen, dodge, crits, drills or general survival. Great stuff.

[@batpunk.]

one of the most fun things to try out with copycat is a high concealment build involving a minigun. if you play it right, the sluggish reload of the minigun will never be an issue

[@epicdude3659]

Overkill with Payday 2 before 2022: if we add stuff, we should probably balance it Overkill with Payday 2 during and after 2022: time to fuck around and find out.

[@michiel97531]

Man the time for the dodge builds becoming meta again is now

[@DeusMachina_EXE]

I have a dodge sniper build planned with the northstar sniper. I just need the final perk or the deck before I toy around with it. And yes, I have use for the ammo refund on headshots with the build. Once I get the deck complete it'll be a speed demon where I don't really need to worry on ammo with good play, and the backup will be BIG GUN. If the dodge part doesn't work out, I do have other possible things to use that would make it work nicely as well.

[@grantplunkett8410]

A very strong option as well (if you're good at gating) is copycat-biker with full hp investment You can play almost more aggressive than the copycat-anarchist suit regen and of course you've got uppers on top

[@simonsoupshark8009]

god yes i love this build.

[@VoltiXHD2]

Tbf your anachist build from 2 ish years ago is my main to, i love being tanky. And yes i don't play DSOD but do play Deathwish. It holds up great, but i'd love to see a follow up for it :)

[@LeBonkJordan]

I've been using copycat anarchist with all health cards, joker skills, and hostage taker aced for survivability rather than relying on dodge, since I'm not confident enough in fast-paced combat to rely on killing to survive, and I prefer to play more carefully anyway

[@PacmanPac-m8y]

are we ignoring the fact that this deck can give you almost double the armor that armorer gives?

[@cptshelly]

When I loaded up the game I had no clue other than your first video to go off in terms of what to expect from copy cat. After looking at it my self I already knew oh yeah the high tier guys will be able to make this borderline broken at least payday2's level of broken ,we all know payday is on the level of goat simulator levels of broken Part of me feels like this is them teasing stuff to come in payday 3 tbh ethire they developed this for us to have fun for the time being or we gonna see some complex stuff in payday 3 which tbh I love about payday 2 in the first place I mean it's fun going from a turtle not knowing anything to slowly realizing the good perks or just doing your own thing

[@xertyo90]

This build is really good, carried me hard in my games 👍👍

[@andreasmaurstad7227]

just wanted to say it was real cool that overkill featured you on thier channel :0

[@aurelliadarkwater1136]

I enjoyed seeing the ‘anarchy’ in this video. Possibly a bit random. But I wanted to figure out a sort of ‘From out of history’ build. With my weapons being the Nagant rifle and broomhandle pistol But I am not familiar enough with the games inner mechanics to get a viable build outside of medium difficulties. Unsure where to start or what to do.

[@blunderingfool]

I wonder what the most powerful VR perk deck will be now.

[@sarahtonin3743]

I love copycat with stoic cause you get very similar health as with regular ICTV stoic, but can run suit for movement speed so you dont feel like a turtle.

[@SHAdow98V]

Honestly i hope they don't nerf it,afterall this is probably the last thing the game gets in terms of decks and let's be honest it might be the last thing(along with what was already announced) in terms of any additional content since PD3 is around the corner so it would be nice if the devs would send this game off with a bang and let this be OP as an homage to the many many times players have pulled through difficult heists and situations without it, pretty much like a reward for everyone for all the fun times the game and the players had this whole time.

[@GolettLifeinDeath]

ive been hesitant to try copy anarchist because i usually play anarchist and i wanted to try something else, so i never looked into this. i might have to now....

[@etourdie]

Copycat stoic can give you more health while also letting you use armor, for a total of like +200 health, and I've been enjoying that

[@fiyahquacker2835]

It's definitely been an interesting change of pace compared to regular stoic since you don't get the healing effect and you don't have the 4sec no damage cap.

[@user-sb7wj1vn4x]

best thing i've done all hp cards biker perk deck primary:akimbo gen 21 secondary:gen 21 have fun in lobbies with either leech, anarchists or crew chiefs. you can't die.

[@yujirofiliusdei]

This is the best Build Bro. INSANE DAMAGE, ARMOR, DODGE, SPEED.

[@lukcrash8649]

this build looks crazy gonna try it when i can. Great video kknowley

[@Buurazu]

Personally I just use the Burglar card (20% dodge) with the dodge bonuses on Copycat. I've always been old school and used Rogue in loud, but now at the cost of just 5% dodge, you get an even more insane weapon switch speed, free reloads sometimes, health regeneration, your dodge deals damage, and you can get brief immunity at low health. That's completely ridiculous... Also, Rogue got so screwed on its Copycat card; getting targeted less is the one skill from Rogue I wish it didn't have! I think it should be 15% dodge + armor piercing! Things have got to get at least a little nerfed, I wonder what they'll do.

[@acontj7097]

with copycat you can 200% do a Critic + body damage flamethrower build use akimbo Kobus (can be changed btw) and the secondary flamethrower and use the extra dodge of the perk deck

[@bunnythehutt2148]

My current copycat perk deck is going full HP and using the hitman card at the end, it feels like everything hitman should of been but flopped on.

[@crashicle]

I just started playing Payday 2 because my friend got me into it during the Winter sale and I have been having a blast with Copycat Stoic. Running it with Heavy Ballistic Vest, I can play DSOD, but it's kinda hard to do it. Currently at Infamy 2 since grinding Infamy is a pain lol.

[@Conductor01]

Regular stoic is far better than copycat stoic

[@andrevilaca1825]

Okay, hear me out... full armor copycat grinder, but you have a Vulcan Minigun and a Flamethrower. Auto-reloads, fast weapon swap, infinite ammo. Oh yes, it works better than expected

[@christophercrafte]

everything sounds great just subtract "full armor" you cant wear anything more than light weight ballistic vest.

[@andrevilaca1825]

@christopher crafte yes, i know. I meant full armor on the perk deck ahah

[@cabbageashthe1st594]

Thanks to copycat I now know that grinder with hostage taker and HP pool of muscle is very fun

[@edey6974]

I wonder how frenzy and berserk would work with this build, it already looks insane.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

It sucks because one card gives 10hp per head shot.

[@zenith_fn]

Copycat's 10hp per headshot bypasses berzerker's health gain block. It can still be an interesting idea, as with a specific copycat setup, you can get a 3 shot armor and 2 shot health with frenzy.

[@edey6974]

@@zenith_fn I guess it would need some hyper specific setup, so the point investment might be too high

[@medic7107]

This is too good, I got stuck in a police car on Brooklyn bank and it was a damn chore tryna die

[@catbugtf]

now i see this build in every other ds loud game i join cheers 👍

[@Spectral-Spiff]

I found out aswell that extra dodge on an already survivable bonus with the virtue perk

[@ebrules]

Does the health refill from headshot kills that the copycat deck has work the same way as Bullseye? That is, using a shotgun and getting the non-crit headshots count for it?

[@SwissChez]

I live the content im just coming back and i remember the days when u only had like 20 vids in the channel ❤

[@JohnQDarksoul]

Balance? Make it so it's unlocked by unlocking the other perk decks.

[@memesareanswerforeverythin9927]

U cannot get the kingpin injector anymore tho

[@CaullyD]

That's not "balance" that's giving it to veteran players

[@JohnQDarksoul]

@CaullyD This isn't the argument you think it is. I'm infamy 6 or 7 and it was only about infamy 5 where I got all the perk decks. That's 500 levels into the game. That's a lot of work for one perk deck. Would you rather nerf the payday send-off perk deck or make it an actual objective for the people staying at infamy 1?

[@tiredlink15]

you should do an Team Fortress 2 Engineer challenge at some point Title: Can You Beat Payday 2 as The Engineer? you can use the sentries. sorry if this challenge sucks I'm new to payday 2 (Edit ty for the heart) Keep up with the great content man

[@benryder1213]

Laughs in Full hp grinder

[@Beginnerss]

Having a bit of trouble with the ammo management on Holdout despite hitting my headshots. What's a good alternative to the Uzi?

[@thegamerdudeabides]

Absolutely loving this build. I have a question about your secondary weapon. I do not have access to the mcshay pack yet so I cannot use The silencer that you have what would you suggest as a replacement?

[@DethMetalDurgn]

😅 Been taking Joker, Medic, Armour and Akimbo skills, mixed with pure Health gains and the Hitman's skill. I switch off mentally and go nuts

[@pengdaw2nd]

This is cool and all but im not aware of the uzi buffs. I had to grind the hotline miami achievements for it which was boring as hell lol, but im wondering what makes it "overbuffed" this year?

[@WD_724]

I am curious if u (or someone else who would know) what visual mods u we’re using in the video (eg: how many SAWTS are left in the top right corner)

[@RhinoNZ]

Have you done a video going over the UI mods you use?

[@danis8702]

Im sure you tried but copycat stoic is soo good armor that works like stoic and it regens faster then health

[@llmkursk8254]

Honestly, having your secondary be auto reloaded is huge. Peacemaker no longer has reload issues!

[@OmegaRC59]

Not just your secondary, either, can bring a primary with an ass reload like the Piglet too

[@giveluminacat10nobles21]

Still thinking this might be a tease for payday 3? Maybe we'll have perk cards to unlock instead of decks thst we personally assemble into a deck or something

[@shottykale6894]

Hey knowley! I am just getting back into Payday2 and had a question, How do you get your mods to always work? My game keeps crashing on startup to the point of it taking upwards of 10 minutes to launch the game a single time. Thanks!

[@namanex5210]

So quick question I did this build for fun and notice that even though it’s been copied I do not have as much crit chance as you do

[@Zwaluu]

Are you certain both damage gates work? I've been running Copy-Anarchist since copycat came out also thinking two gates are OP but came to the conclusion that whilst you have two activatable points for the gate, both share the same cooldown. Meaning getting your armor broken blocks the health gate for 30s. This might just be a HUD thing though with HUDs not being updated to show the health gate when both are on cooldown??

[@TheKknowley]

If this feels as strong as it does without that working as intended then that’s even crazier! HUDs haven’t been updated to work with Copycat (hence why mine is underestimating my dodge chance) but I’m almost certain I’ve experienced both forms of invulnerability at different times. It’s difficult to find a surefire way to test though given the tight health values involved!

[@TheKknowley]

Done a little research on my own video! Looks like Grace Period is activating at around 1:30 and 7:18, really hard to tell though as the armour gating of this setup is so strong anyway!

[@cedricgoffin606]

Love the build! I was wondering what mods you use for the HUD layout?

[@TheKknowley]

Thanks mate! Just Vanilla HUD Plus for this one.

[@Coltongoold]

I want this advance kind of mechanic to be put towards skills idk if it is me but I find them lacking perk decks seem fine oh well

[@JustCallMeBreeze]

What hud mod are you running?

[@basicname1555]

i made another version that uses that same format of dodge and anarchist but it uses the Lions roar instead of the dual smg and the attachments are in the reply if curious

[@basicname1555]

cqb barrell, medium suppresor, concelmeent add-on, auto-fire, Stealth laser module. and thats it. also for the skill tree then since u dont have to speck into akimbo u can put it wherever but all the perks are the same except that

[@basicname1555]

the secondary is mini uzi with these attachments: stubby comp, concealment, auto-fire, pocket laser and then the unfolded stock

[@RealReduxM]

I still can't believe Payday 3 has a steam page now...

[@halitahmetaktasaktas3205]

Why does my skill tree require 2 more points than yours to open the top skill? Because of that ı cant fully do your skill tree since ı need to open other skills to unlock the top skills

[@l2_linksklix]

I think it has something to do with infamy

[@fiyahquacker2835]

My favorite use is with using all +20%hp, using crits alongside the parabellum pistol with no pistol skills as the main weapon and the thanatos with graze for both dozers and when sh×t hit the fan and the crowd is massive.

[@sandpaper1711]

Any subsitutes to the Uzi SMG? I dont want to spend money on DLC sadly

[@yummalex9016]

Can u still get copy cat by the first option or no or do I have to get 250 looted for it and if I do what map u recommend I should farm for it

[@tucatheman]

I'm not gonna buy Hotline Miami just to get access to the Uzi folded stock, would the Micro Uzi be a good alternative? Or is the 5/7 good enough? EDIT: After first-trying Undercover and Counterfeit, I think the micro uzi is a good replacement.

[@Slayer76751]

Whats the best alternative for the Uzi? I don't have the folded stock and I don't think im gonna get it anytime soon

[@beewyka819]

the heather may make a decent alternative.

[@oberont5743]

I'm running copycat with crew chief. take full armor cards + ictv. I also got friend who is running actual CC so damage reduction is doubled. pretty tanky i must say

[@bal_ln]

What build did you use for the other pistol?

[@Pluvillion]

Just finished 9/9 my Anarchist deck. Now grinding for Copycat. Has anyone made a Copycat Anarchist deck yet?

[@cheezkid2689]

I like Copycat, but I still have to use Stoic. Copycat Stoic is really weird and lacks the additional 25% health regen that base Stoic gives you, which I've gotten so used to that I just can't stand not having it. Really throws me off. It's a great perk deck, don't get me wrong, and it's pretty nice that you can use literally the exact same setup as you'd use for regular Stoic, but I just don't do as well with it. Base Stoic my beloved.

[@TheKknowley]

It does take some getting used to. I played a fair bit of Stoic 2/9 which really helps!

[@smallbutdeadly931]

It's probably too late to get back into Payday 2 for me knowing full well that PD3 is coming out this year I just hope they add VR support again but better this time

[@aaronhammack4599]

Hey TheKknowley I just recently got Payday 2 legacy collection and was hoping you might be able to give me an honest estimate of when I might be able to get Copycat and the other goodies provided? I only ask as I want to be sure I'm ready before heading in. Thanks in advance. Edit I am most likely going to be perma solo as I have satellite internet but it's ok. Just wanted to put this out there in case any build suggestions came my way.

[@TheKknowley]

As in how quickly could you unlock it? I’d say roughly within a couple of days of casual play if it’s the deck you focus on!

[@aaronhammack4599]

@@TheKknowley Ok thanks for the reply. I'll hop to it then.

[@bassclarinet69]

i just came back after a two year break.. holleee shit

[@godman0649]

As if stoic wasn't dumb enough they added I frames and healing fir head shots and armour gating