Payday 3 Update 8: Not With A Bang But A Whimper

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Boys in Blue was never about the heist. It was about the memes. However, I must say, Boys in Blue, Blue Balled me.
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#Payday3 #Kknowley

[@zeptier1172]

What a dichotomy, Kknowley over here with "it's mid" and RedArcher over there with "It's great!"

[@RedArcherLive]

I was really surprised to find he didn't vibe with this as much as most other Partners, but tbh I like that. It offers some varying opinions and that's more fun as a viewer, I'd argue!

[@MadWatcher]

@@RedArcherLive That's because you shill for the game

[@MoistCritikalClips_]

@@MadWatcherbruh, red archer is the last dude that shills over payday 3. He’s been vocal about his disappointment with the game in the last months.

[@stretchmtsa5106]

That's because RedArcher has this stupid modern ideal of being positive is super important, spoiler it's not, being reasonable and honest is far more important.

[@TheKknowley]

I think it's fun having these different opinons and discussing them. One of the issues at launch was that we unanimously got caught up in the hype and so there were no dissenting opions to bounce off!

[@certifiedrat863]

> Cancels weekend plans for the new PD3 update > Ends up playing PD2 for two days instead

[@maboilaurence8227]

It hurts how true this is.

[@martinszymanski2607]

if you cancelled your plans for This Game i think you only have yourself to blame at this point

[@teeveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Many such cases

[@AtlasInvicta]

I wish that my reaction to this wasn't "The DLC came out?"

[@tobiasrieper1950]

Agreed.

[@Bonelord69]

Land of the Free? Tri-State City? Black Ops 3? Yume Nikki? Cats and Kitties?

[@calebobry6211]

Bowl of chilli?

[@leowooo]

Initial D?

[@Robo_Spike]

Payday 3...

[@DementedPuppies]

Tee hee hee

[@Moss_Official]

Hotel? Trivago.

[@ampa-3612]

The boys have become blue.

[@shortfuselit101]

Not the only thing this update made blue

[@iknowurip8151]

But is the land free?

[@wyoming2868]

But has the poison become a brew?

[@PizzaHeister]

The boys have been blue

[@drchester2178]

Da bo de da bo die

[@eldiablo303]

Pretty convinced the game will only ever be saved once it's got a couple dozen of 5-15 dollars dlcs like payday 2 (ignoring payday 2s actual popularity). Which really pisses me off, I don't want to fucking have to wait this long just to feel like I have to pay an extra 50+ fucking dollars to catch up to date once they get their shit together.

[@The_great_M0N0LITH]

More than 50 trusted me bro they are greedy p1gs.

[@3magikarpinamansuit281]

This is why im never buying the game, but i didnt buy the packs for 2 either.

[@dawsonh420]

game can’t be saved. STBRZ is already planning on making new live service games and ovk is reportedly a skeleton crew for pd3. game is gonna be shut down next year 100% no doubt

[@EditorDW]

Add in allowing players to make their own custom heists and maps

[@vault6242]

​@@dawsonh420Is there a source for that info or is it just speculation?

[@tastefulavenger]

I don't see why anyone expected this to be "THE" dlc that was going to course correct everything. This game is still fundamentally living in PD2's shadow. No infamy and no skill tree rework which are my biggest request outside solo play.

[@oni1373]

Infamy rework? You mean XP? Cuz that's out already

[@user-ek4ox5qm8w]

PD3 needs a skills rework, gunplay rework and armor rework. What we have so far are band-aids instead. However without that, no amounts of new contents will help the game's health long-term.

[@CBRN-115]

PD3 is doomed to fail in the first place. Don't buy it or refund it. The servers will shut down mext year

[@cheesebucket142]

We didn't, it was just a meme

[@Vambrayse]

My favorite complainer

[@Vambrayse]

Keep up the good work though KKnowley, I think giving criticism is what's best for the game. I'm glad someone who actually cares is a Starbreeze partner!

[@URL.Handle]

It would be a lie to say this game runs smoothly half of the time the servers don’t work when you’re playing PS5 you go to upload your progress to the cloud it’s hours, days behind. Granted this is the only game that doesn’t upload your current progress it’s done this since day one. They rip you off with DLC’s content being mediocre without DLC‘s, but not burning much to the table regardless of what you decide but with this new update if you even want to call it that apparently the servers are down and will be up to eight hours! Basically everything from what I see before playing it is everything is behind a pay wall basically which were talking about a game that doesn’t run smoothly hardly ever did I mention the servers are constantly down!? The last thing I would do at this point praise anybody! Why lie this product we paid for even if you got the basic version is $40. I could only imagine being a person that paid over $100. The game servers are hosted on the worst servers I’ve ever seen. I would argue GTA 5 has been in a better position even when you’re comparing the exploiters on a daily basis, cheaters, being able to not have to grind at all making everybody’s experience that much worse I would argue. It’s a much better experience even before PS5 the days where God mode players were in every session, I would prefer that experience than what shoves down our throat. Once you buy the game, you’re kind of in it for the long run. You will always look to see if it’s got better they trap you they make you wait. I don’t care if I help or not. I know some people put it that way “if you’re a big fan then you will buy DLC’s to help them.” These people at this point should scrap this game and pay everyone back that’s the way I look at it. It’s a disgusting disaster payday 2 from my experience, did it have half of the problems. But of course they threw players in the garbage before payday 3 was ever talked about as we all know.

[@Kero-zc5tc]

@@URL.Handledawg wrote a comment with more effort then payday 3 💀

[@eggofan247]

*critic

[@konstantinoslales4567]

This, but unironically.

[@luckyzruby]

I feel they've gotten too comfortable in unreal, where as the diesel engine's limited scope forced you to really work for that exciting feeling and get creative to make a memorable experience, unreal is able to replicate that just by existing, but an issue with that is if you rely on unreal being a good engine it can cause a lot of the personality to get lost as you lean more and more on unreal just being a good engine. I think a "perfect" heist with that creativity and set pieces ala big bank and golden grin to really flip negative sentiment could cause a turn over in opinions since the actual level designs are fine and the teams are working well to make something that presents and plays well enough. It just lacks that spark that put those old payday 2 heists into our hearts.

[@saerte9403]

exactly

[@meat.]

the original team that made those old heists we loved are all long gone

[@luckyzruby]

@@meat.I’m not asking for those people, I’m asking for heists packed with the ambition and personality those old heists had

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

I expect that as soon as the houston breakout mission is added, hoxton's name will be changed to Houston, and Houston will take Hoxton's name, just to fuck with people.

[@echezeke8532]

I think of boys in blue as more of a big step in the right direction rather than "the great savior of payday 3"

[@PulzeDevel]

Man i was really hoping payday 3 would start looking up after boys in blue

[@devlintaylor9520]

Still hovering around his videos waiting to hear its worth to get

[@jakejs7117]

Then I'm sorry to say that your either very naive, or overly optimistic

[@Unknown_Genius]

How? I mean, they made their best release yet with PD3, but that doesn't mean they somehow skip the years they need to fix the most baseline issues all of sudden. We've seen this once and we'll see it again: It'll be a different game before a lot of things have been fixed - hence why they are soft replacing the armor system (sadly as it's the only reason I bought it, literally grew sick of how PD2 plays) and place in HP reg skills (again...) already (even tho I'm not surprised by it as it's my own stupidity to think they'd spend the time actually refining the gameplay, should've known that they'd rather swap over to a system where they just need to tweak a few numbers and its good to go again).

[@PulzeDevel]

@@Unknown_Genius i cant tell if ur supporting pd3 or hating on pd3 ngl

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@PulzeDevel both honestly. I hate that it feels like they change the reason why people who got sick with 2 bought it (the armor system e.g.) and essentially pull what they did with 2 (turning it into a different styled game) while I'm having a blast playing what we've got for as long as they didn't entirely switch it over yet (and hopefully never will).

[@battletechpropaganda]

I really like that one comment I saw on a similair sadness knowley video that went like "babe wake up another knowley depression video just dropped"

[@RiffyDevine]

Fuck twitch drops.

[@merepseu]

It's getting kind of awkward. If I ever show up in any of Elisabeth's streams again, she's going to ask me how hype I am for Clover - and since I'm still hearing I've got better things to do than play Payday 3, that's gonna get a real disappointing answer.

[@TheKknowley]

Clover is excellent to be fair!

[@effbar2400]

Who are you

[@merepseu]

@@effbar2400 A good question I'm always pleased to hear.

[@jaydeem1264]

But not pleased to answer apparently ​@merepseu

[@merepseu]

@@jaydeem1264 OK, fine. A name in chat that gets recognised and nothing more. The only takeaway from what I said that really matters to anyone other than myself is that no amount of an excellent return of Clover (and I do hear - and trust - that it's quite excellent) makes up for how Payday 3 suffers so much from becoming rote because of how little variety there is and how little impact that variety truly has.

[@pikasome2585]

Too late. Weekend plans cancelled

[@myleftnut2590]

You know its bad when the Saints Row 3 references get pulled out

[@smokyjs6746]

Which ones ?

[@CYB3Redux]

HOUSTON BREAKOUT LES GO!

[@BitGearStudiosYT]

Hoxton should make a joke about the reversal roles in the land of the free dlc or I’m quitting Payday 3.

[@joeJOE-zy7rw]

franklin breakout*

[@Banana-fv8dq]

How can they eat a doughnut if they have a mask on

[@OberonKin]

In the 2nd game they can drink from a flask while reloading akimbo shotguns. And the idea of barely pulling up a mask is crazy?

[@PanicPakin]

Nah they just sniff up the sprinkle through the mask breathing hole then throw the rest away

[@kayagorzan]

Good old magic

[@Shark-Fist]

Sheer force of will

[@MindOfGenius]

@@PanicPakin those sprinkles made with that "special white powder" to give you that boost XD

[@d33pblu3]

I unfortunately got addicted to crime boss and i don’t think I will come back to payday 3 any time soon.

[@seanwallcroft6272]

Same, that game is just so much more fun and accessible tbh

[@user-vn6ki6gs8w]

good for you

[@xthijsbos6811]

Try Fortnite

[@dontdokidsdrugs2760]

New adventures await, buddy

[@cptjashook]

Lol yall crying because we left a dead game

[@KarlDelaney99]

Boys in queue

[@halo6484]

feel like 2025 is gonna be the year Payday 3 feels like it worth going back to

[@gryph1116]

GTA VI is going to kill it

[@CBRN-115]

By then, PD3 servers will be shut down and you can't even play it

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

@@CBRN-115 Bro out here spreading speculation as if it was factual information

[@ent.8764]

Ah yes, Breakfast in Brooklyn Bank

[@gibbings5534]

The stark contrast between this video and red archers videos comment sections are comical

[@gabrielarruda4083]

poison brew

[@siperog]

pots & stews

[@thudthegod2429]

hatsune miku

[@superabro7003]

Toys for two

[@user-bh1ol5zc7x]

charleston chew

[@wyoming2868]

guys being dudes

[@HonestTrueflight]

Honestly this is exactly the response I was expecting. It's good, not great. Payday 3 still needs work and Starbreeze needs to be a little more ambitious with their DLC maps. Honestly I'll take anything that moves the game in a good direction. Now if they can just get rid of Edge/Grit/Rush and the micromanagement based skills...

[@MB-dn1fx]

“Do you know who ate all the donuts?”

[@simtelefon]

This seems like a heist that should have been free tbf. Way too small scale, I could have seen this being in the game on release but not as a paid DLC.

[@marlon.8051]

yeah adding dlc when the game is in such a mid state is definitely a move i guess

[@levelfive7662]

Well, new blues await, boy

[@Itz_Puxe]

My favorite hiester making a return is enough for me to play the game for a while ❤

[@aidengray3998]

I played Jimmy for the longest time, but I think I've gotten a new appreciation for Chains. Clover... I couldn't tell you why I don't like her. I don't 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 her, not like h3h3, but she's just... missing something? I think?

[@Itz_Puxe]

@@aidengray3998 I like her new voice lines and quips ❤️ I recently played Payday 2 as well so when I heard her say some of her voice lines it literally felt like A call back to the old Payday 2 when she was saying certain lines 🔥❤️ it really shows how much she pays attention to her clover character after so long. I also like how her animation makes her seem a little bit more twitchy given that time has not been nice to her since her time after Bain's death.

[@person10179]

(Preface, I'm messing around, here, I love Kknowley) Kknowley: Always saying PD3 is too easy. Also Kknowley when the devs give him a more difficult heist: Complains it's hard/"brutal".

[@TheKknowley]

I did also say I see that as a positive! But it did kick my ass.

[@MyUsersDark]

Idk if I just missed it but I didn't hear him say "brutal"

[@pocketinfinity6733]

@@MyUsersDark he says it at 5:22

[@Szpecter]

@@pocketinfinity6733 and he says it is low stakes at 1:11. So which one is it lol

[@chaos1061]

Bring back legacy hiests, bring back hiests like rat catchers, or mall crashers, the diamond store

[@jaredfortin6810]

I just want houston breakout 😭

[@TheTber123]

Free my boy Houston! Bring him back!

[@odvon2963]

​@@TheTber123You see... I need my Donacdum too

[@aaron50snickers79]

This still shows that payday 2 did right that payday 3 did wrong

[@isaacwillis6042]

I haven’t played since syntax error. And I don’t plan to till a handful more heists drop. While things are looking slightly better with every addition it’s still not enough to pull me back in after the 80+hours I put in at release through syntax

[@crazedchangeling]

Good to know it's moving in a positive direction, but I am still going to hold off

[@redfoxdog1]

"nebula data error" 😭

[@Leire788]

Servers are down. Thats why

[@redfoxdog1]

@@Leire788 and they're three hours late

[@TheTrueChuster]

PAYDAY 3 - The Blues of the Blue Balls.

[@cleanboi9136]

“you might want to cancel your weekend plans”

[@holyaubergine]

The boy is blue

[@Z2ombie5S]

No radio circles? 10/10 heist, we're so back

[@NovaAge]

G3 being bland is complete nonsense even from a game design perspective. Even arcade-style gamers easily recognise battle rifles at a glance, they expect them to have damage comparable to the game's semi-automatic offerings with decent rpm but a massive kick; so when adding what is probably the single most recognisable full-power select-fire firearm in all of gaming, why not make it behave as such?

[@seanmatthews6091]

I think it’s fun. But maybe I have a little too much patience with the dev team. Few people remember just how little content was in Payday 2 for the first couple years. Now I’m not trying to give them an excuse, I just hold onto hope that they will keep adding content. Instead of giving up.

[@Virtualsinner]

I'm looking forward to the rest of summer.

[@TheKknowley]

So am I, actually!

[@marioluigijam3612]

@@TheKknowleyas negative as you have been. I can believe that. You like many of us just want the game to be good, but Starbreeze has been really bad at inspiring hope.

[@mostfinnishperson]

if you think its so mid then how about you beat payday 2 as gordon freeman

[@SolaeterAtheos]

The RG5 (G3) is actually more in line with the VF-7S (Scar) rather than the KU-57, as its damage, AP, and Headshot multiplier is high enough to one-shot most cops to the head in a single shot with Edge, while having substantially better recoil and pickup than the VF-7S. In that case it is boring, but very strong since a controllable 1-shot headshot AR with 35 in the mag makes it the best automatic in the game.

[@ectotrix7399]

Yep when you say most cops it's all of them except dozer

[@chrisburns514]

They took Donacdum off Apple Music so let’s hope a new version is on the docket in the future

[@SigtryggrWithWhiskers]

I will just wait until all 4 dlcs are out and the gold pass gets a sweet discount

[@gavinvannoy5082]

I got gold edition half off for 40$ just recently

[@merepseu]

@@gavinvannoy5082 People who bought the base game alone had been waiting for the option to upgrade to gold for a while now and are now waiting for a non-insulting price for it. The current "more than the base game" is a seriously insulting price for it. The current "more than actual Gold Edition right this second" is beyond aggravating.

[@wildlymediocreoriginalrecipe]

Donwloaded the update and now I can't login. Nice to see the consistency from overkill.

[@11Assassinator11]

In Solo Mode, After one restart you get more favors, I restarted 5 times and got 4 favors. After replaying the hiest the favors keep going up. Restarting might not be the culprit but could be a cause for it to break. One person i was showing it to was getting multiple renown rewards but the were not leveling up renown

[@ectotrix7399]

I was doing Rock the cradle. It give me like around 8 favors everytime even without restart I am also getting multi renown rewards. I'm not complaining

[@TheUnstableThinker]

The fact that Clover's VA work is so stellar here just really goes to show you what hiring good VA's can do for a project.

[@TheKknowley]

I think she's been really well directed and written , but it's unbelievable how much personality her and Vlad add to things when they chat briefly in the opening cutscene. It's a tiny glimpse of what could be if all the characters organically interacted during heists.

[@TheUnstableThinker]

@@TheKknowley I highly recommend checking out some of her live-action work, she's excellent in a fair few projects. Her being left out of the launch of pd3 was a major misstep IMO.

[@pilotsayshello1758]

I will say, LOOKING at the gameplay reminds me of PAYDAY a lot.. so that's good. Maybe this is just the Armored Transport of PD3, a kind of lukewarm starter DLC.

[@Waldherz]

Its just not acceptable how much money they want to charge for most of the improvements. After already charging money for the game which should be free to play with this DLC model.

[@benjamingoto2099]

Do more Rockay City content pls.

[@darrenjackson2800]

Just dl the game, is it actually good now? It was so bad at first😂

[@ridhosamudro2199]

​@@darrenjackson2800Rockay City? More like Okay City

[@elCamaradaR]

@@MadWatcher I disagree, Crime boss is a good game without comparisons

[@Unknown_Genius]

@@MadWatcher It's good - but who compares it with PD3 directly? That sounds pretty dumb to me honestly as there's entirely different reasons as to why you'd like/play both. Or are we talking about all the people who didn't notice that PD3 was their best release yet (honestly by far better than I and most of my friends realistically expected) and that anyone who played PD2 for a long time knew that it'll take years of fixing up for sometimes even the most baseline issues? Because I usually ignore those people.

[@Tman2bard]

@@Unknown_Genius Payday 3 takes itself too seriously and will take years, and way too much cash, to get as good as PD2 ever was. Overkill weapons are stupid, the weapons feel like shite, everything is slow, and as much as I enjoyed the beta, the heists overall are mid.

[@GojiraChief]

Hey Kknowly, i'm a recent fan of yours, and I was wondering. In your honest opinion, is any edition Payday 3 worth it for a fan of Payday 2? And if so you which is the best?

[@Spec1ops616]

The update imo as a whole I give a 7-8/10 I wanted clover to come back and she’s an amazing character her lines are great she adds new life the map I think is very fun I love the idea of going to a police station a good change of scenery I don’t think this update is a holy grail but I think it’s a good update and good step in the right direction of what I’ve been wanting

[@GeneralCam]

We're getting Huston back lets gooo

[@maythomas4591]

This feels like the type of small scale heist I want to see, I personally enjoy Boys in Blue probably the most out of any heist in Pd3, while I do hope bigger set pieces return, I need less wifi-hack circle objectives. As in like just forget that was even something they wanted to do.

[@rabidbadger5260]

It's just more of the same that wasn't very good to start with afaic, so It won't be bringing me out of retirement. It's great to see Clover back, but will it be enough to make a difference?

[@dumitruana8745]

i can't even login wtf

[@fowlskully9150]

would be nice if the maintenance was over and could actually play the update

[@LasagnaLover23]

It’s very difficult to maintain positivity for Payday 3s future. I played Payday 2 on console and stuck with the devs through the lack of content and bug fixes and even through the botched launch with PS5 after preordering gold edition. Just disappointing.

[@Call_Me_Sparda]

I feel this way about a lot of games, but steam workshop support would go a long way.

[@sal_monella]

Hey, at least we got Dawntrail for a “weekend plan canceler”

[@robloxmythsandlegend]

Hell yea brother!!! Finally I can roleplay as Bob Ross.

[@Oliver.Pfahl.]

It feels like launch payday3 again. Nebular error and a heist on our wallet. Not much is going right for the game sadly

[@TuftyTaltan]

I wonder if PD3 is getting bogged down in realism and missing out on the bombastic nature of PD2 and even the original

[@harrybuhse8622]

As a pessimistic onlooker I just wanted to say I like Clover's gun. Escape from tarkov has really made me enjoy assault rifles with scopes like that. I'll give the game another year or two to cook.

[@officalonzieboi7304]

The Assault theme of the song should be slightly faster 1.25 Speed

[@mikeg0007]

Payday 2 is so good still. It's crazy how good it is and how it holds up. I heard they were working on 3? No news I've heard makes it sound like it's out yet tho.

[@ShinyLightzInTheSky]

I think this update is a good springboard for payday 3.

[@TheKknowley]

I agree. It's not a statement, but it's a good building block.

[@heyday1233]

Is it not a bit late to be adding building blocks... the game has been out coming up to 10 months, and it's still in a truly sad state. Not to mention they're already selling dlc and for some reason that just goes unnoticed? I mean It's still mostly negative on steam

[@hauntedastolfobeanplushie1956]

Wait, so is this included in the silver and gold editions? Is this "DLC Chapter 2" then? I haven't kept track since I only now came back to pd3 due to some error that was crashing my game lul.

[@chrisk_04]

It seems like the heist design team is ALLERGIC to new ideas and just keep doing the same thing over and over again. They really can’t get rid of the drill.

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

if " the land of the free " DLC doesn't include any land borne heists for free, there will be protests.

[@arbert....8654p]

Can't wait to play 🎉

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

I wish they used the same name from Payday 2 for the guns in this game

[@antynomity]

You just had to post this before the maintenance ended lmao.

[@StarPunchproduction]

honestly...i'll wait until solo mode is truly out...until then i'll be hanging with Touchdown and the Graves

[@UnkleSanik]

Close enough, welcome back Boiling Point

[@Ab23_1]

"Burnt out payday youtuber isn't enjoying the new content as much as he used to."

[@MS-he5cw]

It’s still not out on pc, I’m so upset it’s been over 10 hours whyyy

[@ElAndoro]

yeah, Im mad too, its relase day all over again

[@gergojuhasz8552]

I can't even launch the game to try this out

[@Ztc1996]

Payday 3 DLC doesn’t have the hype Payday 2 DLC did. There’s no live action trailers or short movies like Horton Breakout has so I wonder if Houston Breakout will

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

Why do vlad look like that

[@TheKknowley]

They stretched him.

[@PulzeDevel]

Why are there two different thumbnails

[@IAmUnderscore]

new yt feature to compare thumbnail performance

[@gaz5396]

KZbinrs can (I think) select up to two thumbnails to gauge viewer click rate. Then you can, as a youtuber, decide going forward what will work.

[@mistersalesman]

It's called A/B testing.

[@EvilAmy_]

My game still isn't letting me log in.

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

I don't mind "boring", normal guns. I think they fit the setting better than all the joke weapons Payday 2 had

[@MyUsersDark]

I think the problem is that they do what other weapons already did, rather than not being crazy concepts

[@Grayson-tk5hn]

imo they should try to balnce out the goofy weapons and the normal ones

[@alfdog83]

i dont know about you but i want silly weapons, they make the game so much funner, look at call of duty, almost every gun in those games are generic and feel no different from any other weapon in its architype

[@angeldlacruz4257]

Someone have the extra content added to te Gold or Silver Ed? I have it, but i dont see in my inventory.

[@user-fe2yt8bk5l]

Still cant make an account on this game 😐

[@glennmellaerts1831]

Lmao i read it in killbane's voice

[@StarWrath21]

Their is a bug on Xbox where if you were past level 39 when the zap grenade came out you can't unlock it....

[@Moonistic]

have been existing since the progression update

[@crittomato7043]

Honey wake up.. Wait I'm single, anyways new Kknowley video dropped time to grab some water and watch the video

[@chrisk_04]

It’s actually over

[@despacitodaniel801]

What the fuck was that Payday 2 true ending for. Sunnuva

[@MakusinMeringue]

Wait this came out today? Or was it yesterday or something?

[@Leire788]

Today. The date was today

[@watchedsmile]

It feels like the base game is being ignored in favor for dlcs. I dont plan on buying a single dlc until the base game is solid but it isnt. Its hard to put my finger on exactly what is so disappointing about payday 3 but when i think about it, all i wanted was payday 2 with better stealth and better graphics. It feels like they needlessly changed everything and the game feels so soulless.

[@ectotrix7399]

Yea the heists themself are not very inspired. There is not a lot of heisting action on the screen and the objectives are kinda designed to be boring for a 2024 game. Also it's lacking RNG for most of the element like spawn points, camera, obj, layouts, random events...

[@fakenickib6245]

Man i will say not playing at ALL since me and my buddies played all the heists once on launch. Looking at my steam and seeing “DLC REDUCED PRICE!” Im really really thinking about saying “mmmmm fuck it” even though i have SO SO SO much im playing right now 😭😭

[@BAMFZone95]

I wont be excited until they put in a server finder for the game. If modders can do it, then the company that gets paid can do it. They can put it in as a "alpha" then a "beta" like theyre doing with the single player. Also i really dont like the skill tree of 3 compared to 2. In 2 i could say im the team medic. When i say get the fuck up, you get up! This just feels like bland, samey skills no matter your build. No one is roleplaying as the medic, or the heavy weapons guy with the ammo and saw. Which how is there a saw in 2 but not 3? Im just around to watch the boat that is starbreeze sink. Im more excited to get any type of news for den of wolves than dlc's for pd3. And thats sad. Ive loved payday since the heist days. I guess it all comes to an end sooner or later.

[@ozalduin4383]

Omfg I really want them to get some crossover characters back like these too xd

[@RickRate]

Should i buy payday3 on the summer sale?

[@annadelsiena]

Get crime boss: Rockay City instead

[@Waldherz]

No.

[@gamingodyssey4328]

buy payday 2 legacy collection if you don't have it already

[@MOCHIII01]

Still haven't managed to get in yet on PC lol