7-10s on 7-10 | All Four PBA Televised 7-10 Split Conversions

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The 7-10 split has been converted four times on PBA national telecasts. Mark Roth converted the split in the 1980 ARC Alameda Open. 11 years later, John Mazza made the 7-10 in the 1991 Bud Light Classic. Later that season, Jess Stayrook picked up the split in the 1991 Tucson Open. All these conversions took place before the fourth player to do it was even born. Anthony Neuer made the 7-10 split in the 2021 U.S. Open.
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@PinoyBowlerGS92
@PinoyBowlerGS92 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Neuer is that not only he converts the 7-10 first time in 30 Years but also he’s the first PBA Pro that converts it on a Brunswick GSX Pinsetter on TV, the GSX is the hardest pinsetter to get any pins flying out of the pit because the pit curtain and pit cushion were separated from each other. The last 3 Pros that converted the 7-10 before on tv were all on easy pinsetters (Roth & Stayrook on Brunswick A2 and Mazza on AMF 82-70) since the pit curtain and pit cushion were connected.
@NateCraven318
@NateCraven318 3 жыл бұрын
I myself have never made the 7-10 split, but I have come close twice on two machine types. My home center of Royal Crest Lanes in Lawrence, Kansas uses Brunswick A2 machines and Brunswick MAX pins. At high school team practice once, I was faced with a 7-10 which was left as the 6 pin was rolled out, like Anthony's here. I threw my spare ball hard and straight at the 10, clipped it against the sidewall, and it rolled about halfway across the back of the pin deck before falling back down. That was the closest I had ever come to making the 7-10 split. The second close call I had was at West Ridge Lanes in Topeka, Kansas. They use GSX machines and Twister pins (Which I REALLY like because of how much they bounce around, they carry well for me). A pocket 7-10 this time, but I hit the 10 pin dead on. I actually got it to bounce back off the curtain, which is a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence with these machines, and it rolled back up onto the pin deck near the 9 spot.
@DarkJak2050
@DarkJak2050 3 жыл бұрын
If look closely on the replay of Anthony's, you'd see the 10 pin bounced off the side wall, into the curtain, on to the ball & then into the 7 pin. *The key thing is the ball being at the right place, at the right time.* If that ball wasn't there to keep that 10 pin out of the pit, that 10 pin would've stayed in the pit; leaving the 7 pin.
@PinoyBowlerGS92
@PinoyBowlerGS92 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkJak2050 Well the Kick Backs (or side walls) on the Brunswick GSX Pinsetter are different than the kick backs on the Brunswick A2 or AMF machines cause it could bring the best pin action since GSX kick backs were extended unlike kick backs on Brunswick A2 and AMF that imagine even Anthony Neuer attempts the 7-10 at the exact way but on other pinsetters but GSX, he can’t convert it cause the kick backs were not extended.
@DarkJak2050
@DarkJak2050 3 жыл бұрын
@@PinoyBowlerGS92 Was it the A2 or AMF he converted the 7-10 on in this video? *No!* Was I talking about different pin setters? *No!* I was simply pointing out that he converted the 7-10 on the GSX because of where the ball was at the time. It kept the 10 pin out of the pit & allowed it to go into the 7 pin. Even *IF* he gets the same exact bounce on the A2 or AMF by stroke of luck, the conversion wouldn't happen if the ball is in a different spot.
@Dickfresh710
@Dickfresh710 3 жыл бұрын
Do you even bowl?
@derekm.toohey538
@derekm.toohey538 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Rob Stone was on commentary for the last one made it even more special, no one else would have shown that much enthusiasm
@MrKeithkerr
@MrKeithkerr 3 жыл бұрын
funny I just commented on Pinoy's post exactly the opposite....enjoyed the old era guy's {Chris Schenkel} commentary alot more but it's a new age I suppose...this post did make me remember the name Earl Anthony for the first time in 30 years though so life's not all bad....
@b.j.thomas3264
@b.j.thomas3264 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear what Gus Johnson would do announcing bowling!
@ringing7
@ringing7 2 жыл бұрын
Andy after converting was still 56 pins down with 3 frames to go ... no chance. Great conversion ... but Rob Stones reaction was WAY over the top ... it wasn't Steph Curry making a 45 footer to win the game at the buzzer
@gregersen80015
@gregersen80015 Жыл бұрын
Rob Stone is actually a killjoy for announcing bowling. For all the posthumous props he gets, I think Chris Schenkel rolls in his grave when Rob puts on a headset to call a bowling event. As a bowler myself (not the best as I have plenty still to work on), Rob overdramatizes every open frame, and would have done so if Neuer failed to pick this up. Yes, Anthony was on his way to being put in his place in the match he was in, but not all open frames need to be frowned upon the way Rob does so. Bowlers will tolerate opening on a low percentage split way more than chopping a spare or especially missing a single pin. The makeable spares are the ones that loom larger in a bowlers scores when they whiff those.
@GamingFanactic911
@GamingFanactic911 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy he was there. The cherry on top would have been if the crowds were there but darn pandemic lol
@Zudoarichidoari
@Zudoarichidoari 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Roth remains the only righty to convert the 7-10 on PBA televised events.
@t.r.e.c.elevators8428
@t.r.e.c.elevators8428 3 жыл бұрын
Then John Mazza, Jess Stayrook and Anthony Neuer are the only lefties to convert the 7-10 as well on televised events.
@chilledice6301
@chilledice6301 3 жыл бұрын
Left is walled
@kingpin3292
@kingpin3292 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Walter Ray Williams also did it. Could be wrong
@Zudoarichidoari
@Zudoarichidoari 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingpin3292 Walter Ray converted the 4-6-7-10
@joyeastling5334
@joyeastling5334 3 жыл бұрын
Belmo did it too
@CometMedalChavez
@CometMedalChavez 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that it was only ever done 4 times in PBA history really puts into perspective how hard that split actually is. Sending all my congratulations to all who picked it up.
@Bydey
@Bydey Жыл бұрын
I have actually spared a 7-10 before as a teen many years ago when i used to bowl. I didn't even realize what a rare feat it was until years later. I literally just got a high five and we continued playing 😆
@joeym5243
@joeym5243 Жыл бұрын
It also has something to do with them not getting into a 7-10 split situation
@hermanuslemmer1695
@hermanuslemmer1695 Жыл бұрын
My brother converted one in bowling lessons when he was seven.
@seymourglass26
@seymourglass26 Жыл бұрын
@@Bydey I think it's both really hard and requires some good rebound luck. Still, you did a cool thing. *High five*.
@Eggy79
@Eggy79 Жыл бұрын
Happy Gilmore accomplished that feat no more than an hour ago
@nasty_splashyyt6334
@nasty_splashyyt6334 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to see the transition from the old days of bowing to the atmosphere of bowing now.
@bikeny
@bikeny 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame too, what with the advertising on the pin setter for the car maker and then naming rights sponsor for a play of the match. Geez, does everything have to have a corporate naming rights john's name attached to it. The first 3 scenes were just the bowler and the announcers. No ads to get in the way and to take away from the moment. Of course, it's not just bowling, but virtually all sports and don't forget the every-2-years advertising program that has those 5 rings so you know that you're there. Yes, I miss the times when sports were sports and not advertising platforms. /end of rant.
@buckturgidson1448
@buckturgidson1448 3 жыл бұрын
@@bikeny All that, plus the announcers acting like drunk 5 year olds on speed - so obnoxious it’s hard to listen to.
@rickthomasvendor
@rickthomasvendor 3 жыл бұрын
Whats bowing?
@PtylerBeats
@PtylerBeats 3 жыл бұрын
HE GOT THE 7-10 RANDY!!!
@hulkjelly6876
@hulkjelly6876 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Old days of bowling had class & style.
@sirosis7858
@sirosis7858 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even bowl, so I don't know how I ended up here. But the PURE ABSOLUTE JOY of that commentator at 4:20 is so goddamn great! God bless that guy, he makes the clip 1000x better!
@michaelinhouston9086
@michaelinhouston9086 Жыл бұрын
Same here - no clue how YT recommended this but it was fun
@NutsBeStinky
@NutsBeStinky 10 ай бұрын
He’s been commentating since 2001, and this was at basically the hardest/most important tournament of the season in the US open.
@Zaiqahal
@Zaiqahal 3 жыл бұрын
There were 2 7-10 splits in '91. Thinking we might have a whole lot more in the near future, but it took 30 years for the next one.
@steveboone1498
@steveboone1498 3 жыл бұрын
What's amazing about that is the splits were converted less than a month apart.
@1981troublemaker
@1981troublemaker 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not about the split conversation itself, it’s about the bowlers who can dominate the split conversations, & the 7-10 is the hardest. That’s why it take so long. 300 (perfect shot all through) hard. Any conversation hard. Everything else is just a game of high scoring & excitement of the crowd.
@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan
@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Mark Roth! You will be missed in the bowling community.
@kepler240
@kepler240 3 жыл бұрын
Roth was the man. His 7 step approach was unusual, but it worked for him. Or whatever it was...hell, it might have been 10
@paulfrombrooklyn5409
@paulfrombrooklyn5409 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad used to bowl in a league with Mark Roth at Rainbow Lanes in Brooklyn, NY. He wasn't on the same team. He in the same league and knew Mark Roth. After his pro days, Mark Roth bought the alley and it was called Mark Roth's Rainbow Lanes.
@shrapnel77
@shrapnel77 2 жыл бұрын
Saturday afternoon bowling! Loved it. Roth had some of the best raw power of any bowler.
@johnbernstein7887
@johnbernstein7887 2 жыл бұрын
He was an asshole to me. A ten gamer at Fiesta San Jose. He was my first match. Showed up. Announced himself and told me I had no chance. He shot 233. I shot 279 and then announced my self. He finished fifth. I finished 4th.
@rayklatt7818
@rayklatt7818 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbernstein7887 trash talking makes one an asshole? Hmmmm.
@mau88ize
@mau88ize 3 жыл бұрын
Still cant believe I just saw that 7-10 split conversion, like I've always wanted to see that on TV, that day was just amazing, definitely after almost 30 years, it was totally worth it for a lot of bowling fans, a day that i will never forget!!! JUST INSANEEEEEEEEEE
@joecafferata4682
@joecafferata4682 3 жыл бұрын
the difference in the style and content of the announcers is astounding.
@aaacomp1
@aaacomp1 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, the announcers used to be classy and full of useful information. Now they just yell a lot and don't really say anything of value. I guess Randy Pedersen really needs the money. I'd never get on camera with that idiot he was with.
@ringing7
@ringing7 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I Iike announcers that have an inkling of knowledge about our great sport ... Rob Stone and even the legend Chris Schenkel not only were clueless but made no noticeable effort to learn as the years went by. I cringe when they are in the booth.
@gregersen80015
@gregersen80015 Жыл бұрын
Chris Schenkel understood enough bowling to not overdramatize every open frame the way Rob Stone does. Rob Stone treats every open frame like a kiss of death. Working next to Bo Burton, Schenkel eventually understood the high tolerance that even sub-average (yet avid) bowlers like me have for opening on a low percentage split. Failing to convert a split psychology is not as detrimental as chopping a higher percentage spare or better yet missing a single pin. Single pin misses loom larger on a bowler's score than an uncovered split as they fall in the would've could've should've category.
@patrickm6012
@patrickm6012 7 ай бұрын
To be fair to Stone it has been over 30 years since the last one was made and his reaction was genuine. I love the fact that Anthony called for the pick up before it happened.
@Aaron-kz5ek
@Aaron-kz5ek 3 жыл бұрын
its so sad Anthony Neuer didn’t get a crowd it’s part of the excitement
@Sieze_1
@Sieze_1 3 жыл бұрын
I know right
@theseze3675
@theseze3675 3 жыл бұрын
That commentator made sure he knew how special it was though, good on him for doing that
@FranFJB
@FranFJB 3 жыл бұрын
Just an over Exuberant announcer. Compared to the true Pros Of Chris Schenkel and Bo Burton!!
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 жыл бұрын
@@theseze3675 For real. That young man had to be walking on air after that, and the announcer definitely pumped it up nicely.
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 3 жыл бұрын
:(
@justinjoseph6966
@justinjoseph6966 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Mark Roth. One of the greatest ever.
@watson956
@watson956 3 жыл бұрын
Releasing this today was a good call, @PBABowling. Thanks!
@Lexzim9098
@Lexzim9098 3 жыл бұрын
Out of these four televised 7-10 conversions, the latest one from Anthony Neuer is the most impressive. The pinsetter used in the 2021 U.S. Open was a "GSX Pinsetter", which usually is almost mpossible to bounce out pins from it due to its very loose curtains, but somehow Anthony Neuer pulled it off flawlessly. The other 3 televised 7-10 conversions were still legendary and unbelievable to watch as well, especially the 3rd one being 30 yeears ago!!
@Sieze_1
@Sieze_1 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing right?!!
@Luke-1296
@Luke-1296 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because he hit it off the sidewall rather than the back curtain
@Lexzim9098
@Lexzim9098 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-1296 Okay I guess that makes sense then. Not to mention as well, the 10-pin also came off from the bowling ball itself and taking out the 7
@MamiSyakir
@MamiSyakir 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lexzim9098 the 10 pin hit the ball
@PinoyBowlerGS92
@PinoyBowlerGS92 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-1296 Well the GSX kickbacks could bring the best Pin Action cause they’re a bit longer than the kickbacks you find on a Brunswick A2 or AMF Pinspotter.
@FG-Supercharged
@FG-Supercharged Жыл бұрын
As a former Pinspotter & Lane Tech. from the 80's through 90's, seeing this stuff just makes my heart glow! I know the countless nights of pain, frustration, effort that went into making these kinds of feats possible - and without any possible reason for disqualification for what you've just seen. 12 strikes in a row in a game is another level of panic/joy that we experience when you're in charge of the equipment.
@Wolfman12395
@Wolfman12395 3 жыл бұрын
Neuer is the only bowler out of the four to shoot cross lane to convert the 7-10 (being left handed shooting for 10 pin, as opposed to right handed shooting for the 7 pin), it really is crazy that this year marks 30 years in-between the last time the split was converted!!!!
@canuck_gamer3359
@canuck_gamer3359 3 жыл бұрын
I used to manage a bowling center here in Canada and after learning how the machines worked, I always felt that was the best way to get a pin to hit the ball and bounce back out onto the pin deck. I'm really shocked that most pro's don't routinely shoot the 7-10 in that way because in my view the best way to get a pin to bounce out, it has to hit the ball and the best way for that to happen is to shoot cross lane (also depending on whether you're on the right or left lane).
@melodysnowstorm729
@melodysnowstorm729 3 жыл бұрын
The 1st one in the Video was the 10 pin done by a Right handed. 1:06 is the rough time stamp
@bowlersunanimous1983
@bowlersunanimous1983 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And not only that, but the most adapted strategy is to shoot away from the ball return. He went against the grain both ways!
@jimmaloney1121
@jimmaloney1121 Жыл бұрын
Chris Schenkel and Bo Burton. Voices of my childhood Saturday afternoons. I used to bowl Saturday morning league and then watch PBA on ABC at 3:00 PM, with Wide World of Sports at 4:30. Good times.
@Twobarpsi
@Twobarpsi 8 ай бұрын
Exactly the same routine for me!!
@vintagesupermarkets5210
@vintagesupermarkets5210 6 ай бұрын
Same for me!
@Eric-qv2rz
@Eric-qv2rz 5 ай бұрын
Me too I used to bowl bantam leagues at Idle Hour Lanes in Scranton and rush home to not miss PBA on ABC
@dougcampbell8531
@dougcampbell8531 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that brings back memories of a Saturday afternoon watching the tour every week great memories.
@MrNostalgiaX
@MrNostalgiaX 3 жыл бұрын
Man it’s great someone else finally did this on tv. I remember I was like 5 or 6 years old when i saw Stayrook did it on live tv too. That was awesome. I used to hate Stayrooks form but he’s a true gentleman. Nice guy I heard. Man that means the 30 year drought of the 7-10 on tv conversion is over! Congratulations, Neuer!
@zabagar
@zabagar 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Roth hit the 7-10 back then on TV as a kid. My brother and I watched bowling every week!
@mitchweiner
@mitchweiner Жыл бұрын
My mom bowled locally for about 15 years and she and I would watch it on TV. We saw Roth make it on TV and it got me hooked on watching it for years!
@MikeyBranco2007
@MikeyBranco2007 3 жыл бұрын
I converted a 7-10 in league play and I love my patch! I had watched Earl Anthony demonstrate how, the day before. It worked! Cross lane as hard as I could!
@MarcusHalverstram
@MarcusHalverstram Жыл бұрын
Its such an honor to be in the presence of so many great athletes
@billwilliams4877
@billwilliams4877 Жыл бұрын
Don't be a smart ass... king pin. Lol
@Soxruleyanksdrool
@Soxruleyanksdrool 2 жыл бұрын
Announcer: Mark Roth is only going for one pin. Roth: Hold my beer.
@gregersen80015
@gregersen80015 Жыл бұрын
The circumstances of the match gave him the luxury of just going for one pin. Who's to say he wasn't intending to make it? But in most scenarios, when leaving a low percentage split (even if it can be made), it's more strategic to just take the open frame and maximize the pin count out of it. Bowlers tend tolerate those kinds of open frames as they're not as psychologically detrimental as fanning on a single pin or chopping a makeable unsplit spare.
@Xariama
@Xariama Жыл бұрын
I watched Stayrook's conversion with my dad at a bowling alley bar, since he'd just finished league that morning. The entire place just went nuts.
@FUYT888
@FUYT888 3 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Mark Roth. You were a LEGEND!
@tuckerwoodson4134
@tuckerwoodson4134 3 жыл бұрын
Shoutout bowling for paving the way for other “tertiary” sports like disc golf to become highly publicized
@christopherwellman2364
@christopherwellman2364 3 жыл бұрын
We're still missing out on Professional Tiddlywinks! LOL
@jonwalters485
@jonwalters485 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it with that one bro. Disc golf has gotten so big recently with all of these videos and courses being posted and opened recently, and bowling has been leading the charge for decades.
@lazarbro
@lazarbro 2 жыл бұрын
The world of poker night be the best/most "tertiary" TV sport
@robfinlay8058
@robfinlay8058 Жыл бұрын
@@lazarbro I'm always amazed pro darts hasn't got big on US TV, it is huge in Europe.
@blackjacktrial
@blackjacktrial Жыл бұрын
@@robfinlay8058 some day it's popularity in the US will do a ONE HUNDRED AND EIIIIIGHTY!
@DEADLOK69
@DEADLOK69 2 жыл бұрын
JOHN MADDEN CALLING IT with chalkboard action: Here is the ball taking out the 10, ball shifting to left "BAM!", 10 hits the wall, "BOOM!" 10 bounces of the ball, "BOOM!" 10 taps the 7.
@Golfkid100
@Golfkid100 11 ай бұрын
R.I.P. John Madden. 🙏
@gredangeo
@gredangeo 3 жыл бұрын
Showing the previous shot leading up to the Split was a great choice. Shows some tension and importance to make the Spare. :)
@jerryalexander8803
@jerryalexander8803 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Roth's conversion will always be the best
@BillC518
@BillC518 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Definitely the cleanest, with the least amount of pin bouncing.
@quattobeast
@quattobeast 3 жыл бұрын
If you wern't there, I simply can't explain to you how colorful EVERYTHING was in 1991. Neon was so in, dayglow EVERYTHING
@annaenana24
@annaenana24 3 жыл бұрын
i miss the old neon amf decorations. they're making it a red/black/white theme now, it looks so boring
@davidmckesey7119
@davidmckesey7119 3 жыл бұрын
Neon is pretty cool
@madixj
@madixj 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the reactions get progressively more enthusiastic each time it's done😂
@dlopezdlo11
@dlopezdlo11 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how all 4 7-10 splits hit differently! Roth's split came from the pin ejecting from the back! Mazza's split was fonr bouncing from the back! stayrook's split 7 bounce from the left and rolled into the 10! Anthony's split 10 bounce from the right onto the bowling ball rolled left into 7! All were crazy but great exciting conversions!
@hermanuslemmer1695
@hermanuslemmer1695 2 жыл бұрын
Prior to Neuer’s conversion in 2021, all three 7-10 splits made on television occurred in years that started on a Tuesday. (2021 started on a Friday). The first and the most recent conversions were made in years that Georgia won the national title in football (the Miami Hurricanes won the title in the year that two such conversions were made). Also, three of the four conversions were by left-handed bowlers.
@surferguy837
@surferguy837 2 жыл бұрын
And I thought baseball had obscure stats...
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 жыл бұрын
The only interesting stat there is how 3/4 were by left handed bowlers
@skiptowne5724
@skiptowne5724 2 жыл бұрын
Were all four bowlers suffering from constipation and had recieved a parking ticket the day before also?
@mastod0n1
@mastod0n1 Жыл бұрын
These are weird facts that I will probably put deep into my brain and never ever use or think of again.
@thomasmalloryevans2932
@thomasmalloryevans2932 Жыл бұрын
GO, DAWGS!!!
@osu_fishy
@osu_fishy 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that two happened in a single year, and hasn't one been televised in nearly 30 years.
@ronaldshank7589
@ronaldshank7589 3 жыл бұрын
Makin' all four of those 7-10s was JUST TOO SWEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!
@mattmcbrayer2687
@mattmcbrayer2687 2 жыл бұрын
1991 was the craziest year for bowling fans. Two 7-10 split spares in the same year televised? Unreal
@shawnaeby7220
@shawnaeby7220 7 ай бұрын
Yes. And on the other end of the spectrum, I think that was the year of Del Ballard's (in)famous gutter ball too.
@aydengianes2515
@aydengianes2515 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the 5th one
@toaster7254
@toaster7254 3 жыл бұрын
you might have to wait another 30 years lol, 1991 was the last one, and the most recent one was 2021, so you better hope lol
@FUYT888
@FUYT888 3 жыл бұрын
Was watching for all 4.
@billspruce8368
@billspruce8368 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the Rpth 7-10 conversion on the original telecast... a 12-year-old bowling fanatic at the time and a huge Mark Roth fan. Those were the days!
@karenhilker8074
@karenhilker8074 Жыл бұрын
MARK ROTH was my favorite bowler. So cool and colected.
@Bvinent626
@Bvinent626 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is wow.
@roberthuot7887
@roberthuot7887 Жыл бұрын
I nailed two of these back to back.
@b.r.fowler785
@b.r.fowler785 3 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace, Mark Roth.
@jakegarcia7156
@jakegarcia7156 3 жыл бұрын
when i was a young kid, like 5 or 6 my dad had a video from ABC sports called "bowling, the perfect game" and i saw mark roth make that 7-10 and thats when he became my favorite bowler, then i saw him in kingpin, and bowled with him at a pro am. Mark Roth and Earl Anthony one my favorites.
@christopherdunne7848
@christopherdunne7848 Жыл бұрын
Stayrook’s shot looked so smooooooth and almost effortless!
@linuskarzig350
@linuskarzig350 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it funny, that a 7-10 conversion is pretty much more spectacular than a 300 game (Even though that's perfection)🤔😅🤣
@kjwilsonator3333
@kjwilsonator3333 3 жыл бұрын
It's a different kind of perfection and you're absolutely right!
@zanti4132
@zanti4132 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, I did some research on the Internet to find out the success rate of each for a PBA bowler. It turns out a professional bowls a 300 about 1 in 460 games, while making the 7-10 is about 1 in 150. I'm surprised the conversion rate for the 7-10 is that high - with odds like that, it took 30 years after the third one was made before it happened again? Apparently, though, a 300 game is somewhat harder to pull off.
@mikep3813
@mikep3813 3 жыл бұрын
@@zanti4132 assuming it's 1 out of 150 attempts. And seen as the 7-10 isn't left that often, the opportunity to pick it up is less frequent than to bowl a 300 game. Every time you start a new game you have a chance to get a 300. And converting the 7-10 is pure luck as seen in this video. You can hit the 7 pin dead on and just get a crazy bounce. Perhaps all of the conversions of the 7-10 to maintain that 1 in 150 rate occur before the televised portion of the tournament starts.
@notatroll5993
@notatroll5993 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how many 7-10s have been converted off TV
@hardhatjack2207
@hardhatjack2207 9 ай бұрын
It’s much harder to do. With the best roll, you can throw 12 strikes even if it’s by accident. To get a 7-10, you need to make the one pin hop enough to kiss or drop kick the other one.
@russellgilbert3453
@russellgilbert3453 3 жыл бұрын
Stayrook's wife's reaction was priceless!
@quattobeast
@quattobeast 3 жыл бұрын
Between you and me... she is FINE
@kenkenwaterfall6353
@kenkenwaterfall6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@quattobeast I agree dude, she looking real good.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns
@Gunners_Mate_Guns 3 жыл бұрын
It sure was, but damn, was she ever pretty. Dude scored in more ways than one getting her.
@blahblah6227
@blahblah6227 3 жыл бұрын
@@quattobeast she's as tight as that bowling
@ManFa_Q
@ManFa_Q 3 жыл бұрын
@@blahblah6227 She keeps up with the figures
@darklordojeda
@darklordojeda 2 жыл бұрын
10 years between the first and second, 5 months between the second and third then 30 years between the third and fourth. Pretty wild. It also goes to show how infrequently these pros cause splits in their games.
@stephendiamond9893
@stephendiamond9893 Жыл бұрын
I met Mark Roth at rainbow lanes, Brooklyn, New York Emmons Avenue. He started there and wound up buying it. I was sitting in the restaurant when he walked in and I asked how he was doing. He always had a problem with his thumb, but never let it get to him and never affected his performance rest in peace Sir Mark Roth.
@stevehilgeman5252
@stevehilgeman5252 Жыл бұрын
I delighted in hearing Chris Schenkle's voice again!
@bodeghost
@bodeghost 2 жыл бұрын
@ 4:17 you'll he what it sounded like when, Kurt Gibson hit it out of the park! Love that announcer's enthusiasm! 😉 KZbin somehow brought me here... 😂 Glad it did!
@mikemccormick8115
@mikemccormick8115 Жыл бұрын
It was much more exciting in 2021 to pick up the 7-10 than it was years earlier, for some reason.
@BobbyLCollins
@BobbyLCollins 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being in such an exclusive club of athletes. But then imagine everyone calling you "The Ginger Assassin."
@michaelethangross3395
@michaelethangross3395 10 ай бұрын
Mazza's pickup was nothing more than pure skill that was such a hard hit.
@bobbyricigliano2799
@bobbyricigliano2799 2 жыл бұрын
For any non-bowlers: I grew up around the sport and have been bowling since junior leagues 40 years ago. I've never converted the 7-10, and I can't recall ever witnessing a conversion in person. It is a very common split to leave, but even the best bowlers will chalk it up as an open. The 7-10 is often the result of a perfect shot with unlucky carry. All you can do is pick one of the two pins and heave a ball at it and cross your fingers.
@Sweetguy1821
@Sweetguy1821 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen quite a few 7-10 splits. I play candlepin though so you can use the dead wood to assist your shot. I knew it was hard in 10 pin I just didn't realize how rare a feat it was.
@PopPunkFanatic
@PopPunkFanatic Жыл бұрын
I don’t watch bowling much, but it’s crazy this has only happened 4 times on tv in the many years. These guys make it look like picking up a 7-10 is easy lol
@patrickwall8517
@patrickwall8517 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Mark, we'll miss you buddy.
@johnegli1308
@johnegli1308 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t have even thought of that. The pinsetters. Wow.
@Justin-Outdoors
@Justin-Outdoors 8 ай бұрын
0:44 ned flanders?
@laudanum669
@laudanum669 Жыл бұрын
I miss Bowling being part of saturday sports on TV. Growing up in the 70's it was on TV all the time. Once in awhile they still put it on TV and I enjoy watching it.
@monexpo86
@monexpo86 Жыл бұрын
I remember the Mark Roth one , Saturday afternoon bowling
@kristenanderson5273
@kristenanderson5273 3 жыл бұрын
4:21 that’s why I love Rob Stone.
@FSUSean2112
@FSUSean2112 3 жыл бұрын
especially when he says hambone
@christopherangel6690
@christopherangel6690 3 ай бұрын
Stayrook was a very underrated bowler. Bowled in a pro am with him
@stephenmanuel9860
@stephenmanuel9860 Жыл бұрын
Professuonal bowling is simultaneously memey AND legit AF. Truly the everyman's sport.
@theknow7557
@theknow7557 3 жыл бұрын
I watched it. Mark Roth one of my favorites.
@cnpeters3
@cnpeters3 3 жыл бұрын
“The man from Mount Clemens - he is thanking the great spirit” That’s just an unbelievable call by Schenkel there. Wow. I mean, not so much for the religious overtone, but to capture so much in such a simple turn of phrase.
@roygoodhand1301
@roygoodhand1301 3 жыл бұрын
MOUNT CLEMENS? REALLY?!?!?! Dude. I live about SIX MILES from Mount Clemens! To think, one of the four men to do it is from not just my home State, but my home COUNTY!
@jderocha19
@jderocha19 3 жыл бұрын
I heard the same thing and had to look it up. Apparently hes from Bay city then moved to Shelby Twp at some point and then Mount Clemens. I'm about 5 miles from there myself
@dustyc324
@dustyc324 3 жыл бұрын
@@roygoodhand1301 SE Mich is a bowling Mecca
@aaacomp1
@aaacomp1 3 жыл бұрын
Schenkel was the best there ever was, high class, smooth voice.
@mjproebstle
@mjproebstle 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaacomp1 he is buried in his home town of Bippus, Indiana not far from me. Bippus is a very small town of maybe two dozen ppl. It’s those small town, midwest humble beginnings that fostered a legend like him.
@bibsp3556
@bibsp3556 Жыл бұрын
I think the pin heading for the bowling ball rebound off the curtain seems the key. There's still energy in thr ball as it spins and it's solid enough to bounce off.
@t.r.e.c.elevators8428
@t.r.e.c.elevators8428 3 жыл бұрын
Happy 7-10 Day!
@NeonDruid13
@NeonDruid13 2 жыл бұрын
The ginger assassin...i died, you killed me. the announcers are perfect. Bowling has a chance to make a comeback now.
@edyoung2621
@edyoung2621 2 жыл бұрын
The most exciting bowling shot since Walter Ray Williams Jr converted the Big 4!
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 2 жыл бұрын
This should give you an idea of just how rare this is. It's said that one of the rarest feats in pro sports is the unassisted triple play. Between the last 2 televised 7-10 conversions(7-13-91 and 4-11-21) there have been 7 unassisted triple plays.
@fionam3554
@fionam3554 10 ай бұрын
ah, but they have only been done 2 ways - caught ball, stepped on 2nd, tagged runner, or caught ball, tagged runner, stepped on second. Here they had a couple ways. Also weird stat - in 1927, there were assisted triple plays on consecutive days. Next one? Over 41 years later.
@basehead617
@basehead617 2 жыл бұрын
the most impressive thing was all the commentator calls knowing the history
@bufb
@bufb 3 жыл бұрын
Miss days of Mark Roth bowling
@DCBeers
@DCBeers Жыл бұрын
:O I was born between the 2nd and 3rd televised 7-10 split conversions
@alexdiep4462
@alexdiep4462 5 ай бұрын
Because today is July 10th, I decided to watch these bowlers convert the 7-10 split.
@skiprockjr.6881
@skiprockjr.6881 3 жыл бұрын
That was such a great call by Rob Stone. You can't fake that unbridled enthusiasm.
@themyriad0574
@themyriad0574 3 жыл бұрын
That's what led to Billy Mumphrey's downfall.
@skiprockjr.6881
@skiprockjr.6881 3 жыл бұрын
@@themyriad0574 That's what some say. I chalk it up to his cockeyed optimism.
@Cuuuuuuurtis
@Cuuuuuuurtis 3 жыл бұрын
You've read one too many Billy Mumphrey stories
@davidrhodes5245
@davidrhodes5245 Жыл бұрын
When you see these 7-10 spares on tv, it initially seems crazy that there have only been four of them, when the pin you hit seems more than capable of flying all over the place and hitting the other one. Clearly they are so rare because bowlers good enough to be on tv very rarely actually leave the 7-10 split.
@buffaloben15golf88
@buffaloben15golf88 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 Way to go John Mazza! Michigan man shocking the world!
@Randy-ry9ss
@Randy-ry9ss 2 жыл бұрын
I am more amazed at the number of people in the stands watching bowling.
@RobH0421
@RobH0421 2 жыл бұрын
As far as televised pickups, the 7-10 isn't the most difficult split but indeed the 4-6-7-10 which has only been made once by WRWJr. To put it another way, the 5-7-10 could possibly the most difficult but is rarely left by hook bowlers lefty or righty.
@bryceinnerst7963
@bryceinnerst7963 2 жыл бұрын
it is the most difficult, the greek church is just hit less because people just go for the 3 pins instead of the spare, so it is hit less. out of the times people went for the spare in the greek church, they get it about once every 15 tries, while the 7-10 is converted about once every 150 tries
@ravenfuckantifa2000
@ravenfuckantifa2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryceinnerst7963 7-10 pretty much relies solely on the luck of the bounce as well rather than a well-placed/executed shot, which is the case with the Greek Church where it's less on the luck (but still needed) and more on the shot.
@bryceinnerst7963
@bryceinnerst7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@ravenfuckantifa2000 yes, while the 7-10 is harder to do the greek church is hit less on average due to people simply going for the 3 pins instead of a spare
@plutoniumcore
@plutoniumcore 2 жыл бұрын
Picked 1 up during league play a long time ago. Got a nice little patch for it.
@paparamirez7399
@paparamirez7399 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hardest spare to pick up. Harder than shooting a 300. I picked it up bowling a Friday Reno league in Pinole California, Pinole Valley Bowl. The funny shit was nobody on my team saw me pick it up but the whole other team did. They were my proof.
@jeremypilot1015
@jeremypilot1015 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a 7-10 be made twice in my life, both times the strategy was to through thunder down at the 7 and hope you cause enough chaos to make it to slide across the back of the lane. Crazy.
@SuperHeimen
@SuperHeimen 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most difficult shot in sports if not the most.
@toomanyhobbies2011
@toomanyhobbies2011 3 жыл бұрын
That's the only time Mark Roth smiled on the tour. Not really, but that really go to him. LOL OMG, that announcer on the last conversion was aggravating!
@vincesmith2499
@vincesmith2499 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that Neuer bowled in the opposite direction of the other two southpaws. Is one way recommended over the other in picking up the 7-10?
@osiris829
@osiris829 Жыл бұрын
Weird algorithm...But I must say...worth it. Sure wish major sportsstickballhoopbasket sport commentators were as enthusiastic as the guy in the last one though.
@stevebulota4687
@stevebulota4687 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the first two 7-10 conversions.
@Amor1990
@Amor1990 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know if it has ever been done that you slide across?
@Redcom001
@Redcom001 2 жыл бұрын
Closest I ever got was a 6-7-10 as a 14 year old in a local league... And nobody saw it. Never picked up anything close to that again
@PrinceTrexus
@PrinceTrexus 2 жыл бұрын
Do they put any hook or spin on the ball or just throw it straight?
@729MendicantTide
@729MendicantTide Ай бұрын
Honorable mention to Norm Duke going out in style after hitting a 7-10 in the last frame of a series.
@dejabowler873
@dejabowler873 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Neuer is the only one that went for his non side pin (lefty it's the 10 pin righty is the 7 pin)
@mitchelldoye3469
@mitchelldoye3469 3 жыл бұрын
He hit the 10 pin
@dejabowler873
@dejabowler873 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchelldoye3469 yes I said in my comment he hit the 10 pin
@mitchelldoye3469
@mitchelldoye3469 3 жыл бұрын
@@dejabowler873 but you said lefty its the 10 pin, so there for he didnt hit his none side
@dejabowler873
@dejabowler873 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchelldoye3469 non side means hitting your non dominant pin
@koryclarke1991
@koryclarke1991 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a lefty and I’d go for the 7 pin. Also 7 comes before 10.
@TheEvilRayquaza
@TheEvilRayquaza 2 жыл бұрын
Nice shot!
@walshnormandy1605
@walshnormandy1605 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why this only just occurred to me, but do we realize that Jess Stayrook is the only one to have a televised 300, *AND* a televised 7-10 conversion?? Pretty damn rare
@numberthree267
@numberthree267 6 ай бұрын
This is NOT the first 7-10 conversion on TV. Back in the 50s, on "Championship Bowling", a pro named Bill Bunetta (I may have misspelled his name) converted this split. Anyone else remember it?
@Nic5Cyprus
@Nic5Cyprus 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly getting the 7-10 should count as a strike because of how difficult it is
@brianwade4179
@brianwade4179 Жыл бұрын
How many 7-10 conversion attempts have there been on PBA national telecasts?
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