Inside the Fight to Save an Ancient Forest (and the Secrets it Holds) | Overview

[@veggieboyultimate]

Old growth forests are like the grandfathers of forests. They should be treated with care and respect. A lot.

[@monoclesquid9667]

I live in the Pacific Northwest. We need to protect our ecology here.

[@tiacho2893]

Yeah, it's the excuse Brazilian governments have always used when North Americans preach Amazonian rain forest conservation. It's pious hypocrisy unless we are doing the same.

[@sallyl.9606]

I am going to re watch this so that it gets recommended to more people and spreads more awareness.

[@lettuce1626]

Like and share

[@Oltoir]

And I'll reply here so the algorithm helps spread it as well :)

[@woodstockjon420]

Great Work Everyone!👍🏼🌎✌🏼

[@boepeep4568]

Also replying; sharing and keeping it going. Much love and care for all of you, who care 🧡✨

[@aptorres01]

absolutely

[@judylearn7971]

I live in Kitsap County in Washington State. The pace of logging near me has increased. The companies make no effort to preserve soils or habitat. They leave behind a scraggly moonscape of clearcut land. It is heartbreaking. If you ride a motorcycle or bicycle past these areas, you can feel the higher air temps from the baking soil. It harms habitat, and our climate---and the human spirit.

[@GowthamV07]

So why do you guys build huge houses with wood then ?

[@nicoletorcolini5316]

And then they set aside tiny areas of land near roads and with paths through them, like Clear Creek, and think that that really makes a difference. I used to live there, too. My parents still do.

[@idonotliveinparaguay.2361]

@@GowthamV07 you think he commissions suburbs?

[@Lythaera]

I live not far from you, in Jefferson county, and I have noticed the same. It's infuriating.

[@chilluminati1292]

Stop killing the trees says the people living in a wood house full of wood furniture 😆

[@jonasholzer4422]

This beautiful forest sadly reminds me of the fact that we had huge areas of ancient woods here in Europe too. But almost nothing is left today

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Iceland is prime example

[@Pretermit_Sound]

Yeah, I think it’s something like 3% of existing forestland is considered “old-growth” in the whole of Europe. The Bialowieza Forest in Poland/Belarus is about the only one of any decent size. Then there’s the Biogradska Gora in Montenegro. The other 97% is all managed forestland that gets cut every few years.

[@NickManJams]

It's great that we have so many people willing to record the wonders of these environments. Inevitably, when the wealthy and powerful destroy all of the old, natural world, we can have record of its existence, at least.

[@annastasijaspellman2536]

It isn't enough. We need an army that destroyed the machines. And fully "stop" the corporations doing this

[@josefanon8504]

when someone burns down my house, i got pictures at least ?!?

[@epauletshark3793]

I don't think it is inevitable. I think we can save forests. I don't think we should clearcut. Selective logging, yes: allows for new growth and helps prevents extensive wildfire damage. Wood is a useful product. We should be sure to keep trees around instead of destroying it all now. We need to think in more long term.

[@annastasijaspellman2536]

@@epauletshark3793 this entire country was covered in massive trees like that. Look up pictures that people took of cutting them down. There's lots of black and white pictures. Trees bigger than the ones in this video all across the country. know what they use them for? Firewood, that's it, they just burned them for fire

[@GowthamV07]

@@annastasijaspellman2536 Then how do you build houses for the rich and poor in western countries that use mostly wood as primary structure for their houses. People don't think about why these forest are being cut it for their own selfish needs.

[@jaridkeen123]

You can make a change as well. Plant trees in your city. Plant trees in the park. It is technically Illegal but you sometimes have to break the law to do the right thing. I planted 60 Trees in Appartment Complex ls, along Roads, In Parks. No one notices. Everyones like "oh look honey the city planted fruit trees how neat" and the city is like "Hey look what we did" everyone is honestly to busy to notice

[@ChipsReid1]

Great post!Well done. The right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing!

[@fireweed6094]

Guerilla gardeners unite! Thanks for taking the initiative!

[@ZentaBon]

They'll get shit for removing it if you publicize i

[@jnzkngs]

If it's ok for you to break the rules, it's ok for them to break the rules. "But it's ok for us because we are the good guys!" is the same exact excuse the other side uses. That means that you aren't really on opposite sides, you and them are on the "break the rules" side while the people on the "follow the rules" side are not only fighting the people following the rules on the other side, they are fighting the negative blowback you cause. People like you are why I have no hope for the future.

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

@@jnzkngs So Rosa Parks is the same as the Klan because they both "broke the rules". Makes perfect sense lmao

[@dhindaravrel8712]

These forests haven't been 'lost by logging', they've been destroyed by humans. And while that might have been necessary in the distant past, it no longer is now. Greedy bastards.

[@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647]

Nailed it

[@srpenguinbr]

It's a no brainer to have a whole industry based a resource that cannot grow back in a reasonable amount of time

[@srpenguinbr]

It's just short sighted capitalism

[@philipmcniel4908]

@@srpenguinbr That depends on your definition of a "reasonable amount of time." There are no structural materials more renewable than wood. Stone isn't renewable (unless you live near an active volcano and find a way to build stone structures out of igneous rock). Rammed earth isn't renewable, but it's at least plentiful. The vast majority of logging takes place in regions that have already been logged. They take a forest and divvy it up into 40 sections, and log and replant one section every 40 years, giving each second enough time to mature so it can be logged again. Such logging projects do not cut into old-growth forests that haven't been logged before, and as I said before, they make up the majority of logged areas (hence the "pro-logger, pro-old growth" sign at 3:39 in this video--it's possible to be pro-logger while maintaining old growth since most loggers spend their time harvesting rotating forests that are essentially "lumber farms" on a 40-year harvest cycle, rather than old growth). As for the canopy ecosystem, I--as a resident of the Pacific Northwest--have observed it myself (the things this video describes, such as fungus growing in the moss on tree branches, is a common sight for me when I walk in the woods). It does begin to form on trees within the 40-year logged areas within their lifetime, and fortunately, the animals that inhabit the old-growth ecosystem seem to generally do well within the rotating forests as well. The ecosystem isn't identical, but it's at least close enough to avoid threatening animals with extinction. But one thing that you'll find encouraging is that while the majority of acreage in most of the Pacific Northwest is cyclically logged, when you're in this region, you're never far away from small islands of old-growth forest that are never logged. For instance, I happen to live near this waterfall and the short trail that leads to it: www.alltrails.com/trail/us/oregon/elk-creek-falls-trail I can assure you that it, and many places like it, will NEVER be logged, not only because the land in that little valley is managed by the US Forest Service as a recreational area, but also because the loggers themselves wouldn't want to log their favorite trails, picnic areas, swimming holes, and campgrounds. They make great economic sacrifices to live in rural forestland because they WANT to live there, and counterintuitive as it may seem to a city person, they are loggers because they appreciate the forests, not because they want to get rid of all of them.

[@philipmcniel4908]

@blueseaview 11 Most of the parcels I see are owned by lumber companies and harvested at predetermined intervals, rather than being owned by individuals who somehow are rich enough to afford huge tracts of forestland and yet poor enough to need to cut them down just to retire. I do see the same effect you do, with the thickness of a single row of trees separating roads from clear-cuts (it's not like you can't see through the trees to know what's going on). However, I mostly just see that happening with non-virgin forests that are fewer than 50 years old, not new old-growth that wasn't cut before. Just because you can afford $40 plywood doesn't mean you have to be callous to the individuals, households, and entire communities for whom the high prices of building materials has caused a full-blown crisis.

[@edgar-sama642]

Now that I think of it, it is brilliant that massive trees have the ability to gather recourses from roots in the top and bottom

[@braedonshelton2305]

Thank you for protecting the trees!! I hope it works!

[@nevar108]

Thank you for bringing this into view for more people. The all mighty dollar shouldn’t hold sway over intelligent decisions… you end up buying less than you loose.

[@shogun2215]

Governments need to be punishing these companies for cutting down these forests. It's absolutely absurd.

[@3asianassassin]

Said companies are paying the government

[@SteveHazel]

Therefore said companies pretty much ARE the government. And everywhere.

[@3asianassassin]

@@SteveHazel theyre parasites

[@ntbored7727]

Companies are basically part of the government now.

[@shogun2215]

@@3asianassassin Yeah, unfortunately.

[@andreaswagner6022]

Same like in Germany. Here motor ways and lignite exploitation are more important to the legal system than ancient forests. When the police tore down huts in the crowns of trees they even caused a journalist fell from the trees and died. The legal system is sick. Protecting money over future life basics of many species.

[@qwerasdfjkl1990]

We also learned that older forests are the most effective at carbon capture. Planting new saplings aren't as effective as old growth at capturing carbon. PBS Terra also has a great video about this. Protect the old growth!

[@milesprower8]

THERE ARE ECOSYSTEMS ON TREE BRANCHES HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS??

[@mrping2603]

Not to mention the mycelium and fungus ecosystem living in the soil of forests

[@billyboy1093]

@@mrping2603 And that they communicate through this network is mind boggling, I had no idea!

[@schloopSE]

There’s a great story on RadioLab: Forests on Forests. February 4, 2021. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2WTkntooq-bns0

[@theendoftheworld9921]

The world is being ruled by an elite class of degenerate schemers who feast upon the misery and soul starvation of societies spiritual decay simply to extend their wealth. Awaken your spirit and fight back

[@war5561]

If you’ve never stood in the presence of these huge trees, seen the moss dripping off of the branches or felt the ferns against your legs, or taken a deep breath in and smelled the whole forest.. I highly recommend it.

[@ChicagoGuyLivingLife]

Keep up the good fight, friends. The Pacific Northwest forests are stunning and such a blessing to humanity. Protect the forest forever!!!!

[@kevincronk7981]

just commenting to encourage the algorithm to spread this

[@sunnycriti9809]

i SUPPORT YOU FELLOW ACTIVISTS. WE NEED TO DO ALL IN OUR POWER TO PROTECT THE TREES

[@marthadwyer2856]

Just breaks my heart...tears

[@jeevad.tharan4179]

Spread the news. Lets all come together for change.

[@khango6138]

Awesome!! I also think it is way past time to reign in these massive companies and corporations. I hope that the talks about passing laws to criminalize "Ecocide" will lead to actual results.

[@beccig2216]

Thank you for bringing this to the world’s attention. Please can you do a story covering a similar fight to save the ancient rainforests of Southern Tasmania, Australia. The ancient tall trees are among the tallest flowering plants in the world, with unique diversity found no where else on earth. But the constant logging and destruction of our ancient temperate rainforests to turn into wood chips is heartbreaking !! The practices the logging company ‘Sustainable Timbers Tasmania’ is disgraceful! The use of Clear Felling and fire bombing and then aerial seeding of monoculture plantations and aerial poisoning of native wildlife using 1080 inside of carrot baits needs to stop at once! Please help by doing a story on the fight to save our Ancient Gondwana Rainforests of Southern Tasmania. 🙏

[@yourmouse1533]

I only recently learned about Fairy Creek and I was really glad to see it here! Great reporting, helped me see more about it and now I can show others. Thanks.

[@angxin3216]

Thanks PBS for showing this topic, more people should know this and pressure the Canadian authorities to act

[@ridjf]

The value of keeping forests need to be recognized by industry.

[@franceslitmanphoto]

So grateful to the forest and land defenders, plus media, like PBS, for getting the word out about the importance of protecting and preserving these one-of-a-kind biodiverse intact ecosystems. It is total insanity to have these amazing forests and ecosystems sanctioned by the government for cutting. This is not where jobs are created. Shame on the shareholders of forest companies like Teal Jones and the NDP government of British Columbia! Please take a stand for these life giving forests for the benefit of all humanity on this one planet we all call home. Divest if you have stock that may be supporting this destruction and let the media and government of British Columbia know this is NOT acceptable. Thank you!

[@MG-qf2nt]

I did not know such vast ecosystems existed that high up!!

[@theangelbelow88]

The avarice of man never ceases to sadden me...

[@jeevad.tharan4179]

Just amazing nature, just beautiful

[@CanadianMapleleaf]

By the time humanity understands the spiritual connection, it will be too late....

[@tccragun]

Where do we sign up to join these forest defenders?

[@IanBenedict]

Same, I love climbing trees and would happily stay up in one until I get kicked out

[@melissamelissa741]

Rainforest flying squad

[@melissamelissa741]

Rainforest flying squad

[@stevenbridge]

If you are in the States, you will have to wait until the border is open, if you are in Canada come to Vancouver Island. Get to Vancouver and take the ferry, (they are running now), to Victoria then rent a car and drive to Port Renfrew. There you will find the organizers and will help you to protest.

[@benbrown8258]

Once the forest is chopped down what is there will never again be. The thousands of years it took for for that biological peak of development mankind just won't have the time or patience for it to regrow. It must make Lumber corporations livid because they only talk to themselves and only know their own culture and worldview. I'm sure they are putting serious threats to the government to replace people sympathetic to the forest harvesting. I pray there's enough public outcry and enough Integrity in the Canadian government to resist. I'm absolutely certain they will use the fires as an excuse to clear-cut old growth forest. And that is a tragic excuse because it's man-made climate change not Forest made climate change. The forest are doing everything they can do to reduce the carbon dioxide and old-growth trees even more so.

[@confuciuslola]

Absolutely heartbreaking to see that one of these places is being threatened with logging. And the company will probably say they ofset it by planting some saplings, disgusting!

[@an.opossum]

Thank you for covering them.

[@johnstockdale6260]

We can definitely learn a lot from the relationship between fungi and plants

[@majoroldladyakamom6948]

Moved to the Puget Sound Basin in April, 1960. I was 6 weeks old. Do the math. Note my name. In my 60+ years of living here, it's just worsening. 😢 What used to be pristine living has become a concrete jungle where you cannot afford a house, let alone pay taxes, or even buy a vacant lot for under $500K.

[@rvw3022]

I want to live in a little cottage in an old forest like this. I guess it'll have to be in my dreams.

[@philipmcniel4908]

There are more forests like this than this program lets on. Source: I live in an area with lots of areas that are on the 40-year clearcutting rotation, and it's still not hard to find areas that the loggers don't touch.

[@andyroubik5760]

@@philipmcniel4908 yes it is still possible to find remnants, but they are dwindling.

[@peperiveramartinez3378]

I love this channel

[@SungazerDNB]

Spread the word!

[@patricialessard8651]

If I could get there, I would happily occupy to keep them from being destroyed! I didn't realize that this barbaric practice was still going on. Greedy corporations will take everything until they're gone, then blame everyone else and demand corporate welfare from the government!

[@stevenbridge]

It's worse than you know. The land was appropriated from the First Nations and given to the Railway Companies by the Government who sold it to the logging companies who are making a huge profit from lands that don't belong to them. They are also putting gates at almost all the access points and blocking off the use for recreation by local populations because they say "they are afraid of vandalism". To me, they are the vandals.

[@cristinataliani5619]

Smash Teal Jones--Burn Their Machines!!!!

[@patricialessard8651]

@@stevenbridge Wow! The media is just as bad seeing that in years past they would have been all over this. Sadly, they now do as their new masters say. There would be a hell of allot more people there from everywhere if they only knew. Thank you for this info and stay safe!

[@jef13dead]

This deserves more views

[@elfice033]

Across from my place there used to be this big Himalayan cedar. The neighbors cut it down recently. I could never forget that feeling of having company being near a tree

[@bill8985]

Many thanks to the crusaders who sacrifice to slow down the destruction.

[@jillybeanphotokid]

Leaving a comment just for more recognition because there hasn't really been a video on youtube that really gave detailed ideas on how significant these forests are to our ecosystem. Also it's important that we have more indigenous voices explaining this since they have been saying voicing value in our untouched lands much longer than any of us. Bill Jones is a voice for the Pacheedaht community but Canadian government will only listen to the "elected chiefs" instead of Hereditary Chiefs. Hereditary Chiefs are the known voices and officially recognized leaders for Indigenous peoples according to their tribe/nation. Elected chiefs is only but a colonial construct put in place so that Canadian government will only listen to the "chiefs" they themselves have elected. It's a sham. I'm thankful this video gave us some words from Bill Jones and we need to continue on this trend to lending more moments to Indigenous People and their respectful Hereditary Chiefs. They have been on the frontlines longer than any of us.

[@pseudonamed]

If you've ever been in one of these old growth forests you can feel the difference from the majority that are tree farms. We can keep logging 2nd growth and leave these alone to be nature sanctuaries and hot spots for global eco-tourism

[@reefglider]

Yes! This!! The system is broken that these small bastions of big old growth are being logged to extinction. So sad.

[@0HARE]

Shame on those logging companies, motivated only by profit. Kudos to the researchers and protectors of the old growth forests. This both breaks my heart, and fills me with optimism. Resist

[@reefglider]

It did feel a little hopeful for awhile, until Teal Jones went ahead and logged in TFL 46… set aside by government for logging to generate revenue. So short cited, and the loss is staggering.

[@ntbored7727]

It’s so weird how the world is money-hungry. It shouldn’t be and maybe I should be used to it but this reminds me of going to the beach only to see ugly ass rich people houses blocking the sea line. And it makes me so depressed to see the road full of “land for sale” billboards.

[@agnosticbeliever138]

True heroes. The trees will rule this world again one day!

[@kalexambing2507]

I thought the Canadian government was progressive. Why aren’t they doing anything?

[@squid1524]

If they can look progressive they don't have to actually do all the progressive things. Just look at the recent news that came about about the mass graves of kids.

[@billyboy1093]

@@squid1524 What about the horror that is the tar sands, not only destroying forests but also polluting the air and soil

[@squid1524]

@@billyboy1093 That's not something I know anything about unfortunately.

[@ZedaZ80]

They are about on par with the US, they just have a prettier face at the moment

[@RottnRobbie]

(Lecture time) The federal - i.e. Canadian - government doesn't get a say, because resources were made a provincial matter by our Constitution. So in this case, it's the government of British Columbia that's to blame. But don't fool yourself that they aren't doing anything. They've done lots... they sold the rights to cut the trees... they sent in the police to arrest the protester/protectors. And they fight the native land claims in court, because they want the revenue from selling the logging rights. There's a big difference between not doing anything, and doing the wrong things.

[@Jim_n_the_wilds]

Someone once said We don't ever know what we have until it's gone.

[@deannamactavish3584]

Very informative.

[@qwerty_and_azerty]

You’d think if it’s on a reserve, then the First Nation there would have full control over the land, but… well… welcome to Canada!

[@tiacho2893]

Canadian here. No one cares about Native land until business finds something to exploit. Then the Native Canadians are just "standing in the way of progress".

[@andymackinnon5084]

It's not on a reserve.

[@ChipsReid1]

It is on unceded land occupied b First Nation Paheendhat@@andymackinnon5084

[@susanp7059]

It's not on a reserve, it's on crown land owned and managed by the Canadian Government. The province sets the logging policies.

[@susanp7059]

@@ChipsReid1 "Occupied by" is not owned by. The land is owned by the Canadian Government.

[@raphlvlogs271]

a combination of both planting new trees and preserving certain old trees will be the most effective.

[@susanp7059]

I agree! Simply plant a new tree, wait 1000 years, and voila! Its right back where it was!

[@bethyoung3654]

Great video!

[@durandal4546]

These Old Growth Forests speak...sadly, with too soft a voice for most to listen. Seeing them in person by yourself is truly a magical moment. I'm not the hippie type...but there's just something very much instinctual about these types of woods. You feel like you need to whisper if you're in a small group while threading them even if there's no reason to whisper. And don't even get me started on if you're alone, by yourself in them. It's not creepy. It's not unnerving (unless, of course. You're lost I figure). It very much strikes a primal sense of awe looking up at those towering trees that have been there since before mankind "tamed" most of the continent.

[@8happyperson]

it’s funny, people in NA will criticize other countries for not protecting their forests enough but here we are with beautiful, essential forests that aren’t being protected by law. and for what? a few million dollars?

[@LisaBeergutHolst]

"When the last tree is cut down, the last fish eaten, and the last stream poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money."

[@shadowww7]

see you sunday

[@hackcrew42]

Holy cow I went to High School with Korena!! So glad to see you on here 😃

[@mrping2603]

Is there anything we can do to support these people protecting the trees?

[@monoclesquid9667]

^

[@ChipsReid1]

Simply google” Rainforest flying squad. They are on the ground and in the air as defenders and could use your help.Ask them please,

[@mrping2603]

@@ChipsReid1 Thanks! That provided a good starting point

[@TheyCallMeNewb]

I have never seen so much detritus on a tree branch. It's hardly any wonder that the mycorrhizal relationships normally associated with ground soil, would get a start there too.

[@outsideview9052]

I used to criicize these type of protestors when they did it in California on private land. Now, I want those old growth giants to be protected even on private land. When I visited the Sequoia Parks in CA and saw the few remaining giants still standing I felt like I was at the scene of a previous massacre.

[@origamipoke86]

I've seen these old growth forests , they are very close to where I live. Living in WA all I've seen growing up is people pouring in and land being clearcutted for development. Most people I know don't care about trees or the environment , it hurts me so much seeing trees and habitat being destroyed. I've been planting trees and im to the point where I dont even want to have any kids. Hopefully mother earth cleanses the parasite human race but unfortunately most of her progress will be erased 😔

[@headlessspaceman5681]

Wow so your solution to saving old growth forests is for "mother earth" to destroy all of humanity...? WTF?! You're wishing misery and suffering on 8 billion people? Just pass a couple of laws, protect a few forests... What's stopping you? Humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Old Growth forests weren't under threat until just the last couple of centuries. i hardly think that humanity=deforestation.

[@Kiraiko44]

It's so insanely distressing watching our planet being torn apart for money with zero regard for the future or even just any sense of respect for life, not even human life. I don't know what the world is going to look like when i die, but I don't think it's going to be any better

[@DanielZeilstra]

Is there an update to this situation? This video seems to have slipped under the radar, and I feel the cause behind it might succumb to the same fate. Gorgeous photography with a vital message - this needs to be seen.

[@ThePeoplesStory]

I highly recommend the Radio Lab episode on this

[@TheaHFrancis]

Do you know the title of the episode

[@epauletshark3793]

I think we should save forests. I don't think we should clearcut. Selective logging, yes: allows for new growth and helps prevents extensive wildfire damage. Wood is a useful product. We should be sure to keep trees around instead of destroying it all now. We need to think in more long term.

[@yourlordship1119]

Humanity really needs to put its priorities in order, destroying the planet like we are the rulers with unlimited resources instead of rebuilding the planet and caring for it and being a part of it.

[@ArtifexExMachina]

How comes the logging company can press a claim to cut down trees in first nations territory if the local first nation seems to be against it? Can someone elaborate?

[@nickmale4167]

great video

[@skybluskyblueify]

Greed is at the root of thousands of crimes against populations of both humans and living organisms. These greedy people have no heart, at least not enough of a heart to resist their greed. How does our society create these people?

[@ChrisLeeW00]

I think the more pressing question is how we are going to get rid of them.

[@mallomon]

Nice video! Just a small correction, a douglas-fir is not a fir

[@aptorres01]

Great wrk guys thank you

[@akiyamada2306]

I think the video title and thumbnail could be better for more click through. Like, "Why we need Old Growth" "Fight to save the OldGrowth" "The last giants in America" "Save Fairycreek" Also, maybe include more First Nation voices and traditional knowledge holders. These indigenous scientists will know a lot!

[@bluefleet1655]

yeah, when it comes to money, they really stop caring and will try anything to get it

[@itbeat7899]

Buy off their logging contract by turning the forest into tourist attraction. I sure would pay to visit forest with such backstory. Persuade them it worth more to have as forest than logs.

[@rickythe2nd63]

So depressing. What an unjust system. I hope the tree sitters keep fighting!

[@Ambient_Scenes]

This mossy forest 8:36 is amazing. Anyone know where exactly it is and if it can be visited?

[@nickdolivo2434]

Yes!

[@raulitoalvarez]

Awesome 🌲⛰ video y’all 👍🏽✌🏽

[@creecrew]

Save lonely Doug 😢😢😢

[@mailasun]

This could be made into a film. Maybe change the set to an alien moon, and the natives into tall blue aliens. It will be a blockbuster! What’s that? Oh.

[@anemone104]

Just found this. Nice. Did the Fairy Creek watershed get clear-cut? Canopy soil is a new concept to me. Makes sense....

[@megamanx466]

The bigger question might be is who wants this wood and do they know the importance of the forest it comes from? Always seek out the monetary motive. 🤔

[@RaoulDukeSr]

Excellent point friend !

[@philipmcniel4908]

The answer is this: Remember how many people complained about the spike in lumber prices last year due to lack of availability? (I remember the meme offering to trade a sheet of plywood for a classic car, and saying "Don't lowball me--I know what I've got.")

[@5pecular]

Save the trees

[@bandhansangha9462]

when i was kid every body told me that peoples in our world are bad but when i grow i realise we made it bad and only we can reverse it in my region looks like only me concern about environment and only i can do something about it

[@aptorres01]

people who would destroy this for $ are evil.

[@roman-still]

Omg it's such a gorgeous video about such a painful matter. 2 years have passed, what's the status atm? Have they stopped logging Fairy Creek? Or does the fight continue? I would love to contribute however I can

[@susanp7059]

Like loggers say, just plant seedlings to replace them. Except they forgot the part about waiting 1000 years to get back what we had. Meanwhile life on earth will be over due to the climate emergency we have been ignoring.

[@philipmcniel4908]

I'd say the ecosystem this video describes forms within the first 50-100 years. I certainly see the beginnings of it in forests that were logged 35-40 years ago. The news you might find encouraging is, no matter where you go in the PNW, you're never far from an area that's not part of a periodic logging rotation (usually either a recreational area or a tract of land that's not worth the trouble to log it).

[@treadwell8481]

@@philipmcniel4908 The first commercial harvests occurred in the late 1800's. There hasn't been enough time from when that first tree was cut to observe the succession from clearcut to old growth. Until we have been able to observe and document, the time it takes to grow old growth out of a clearcut, claiming that it only takes 50 - 100 years is purely speculative.

[@philipmcniel4908]

@@treadwell8481 I think that answer depends as much on how you define "old growth" as it does on how long it's been; you see the moss growing, decomposing, and producing soil and the ecological niche mentioned in this video in far less than 100 years (I've seen it myself), though I'm not an expert on underground fungus ecology so I can't say anything about that or some other aspects. If it depends on the size of the trees, that depends a lot on your definition as well.

[@treadwell8481]

@@philipmcniel4908 I don't understand your motivation? You don't seem to care about Old growth forests, you've stated that you're not Canadian, and that you don't have any expertise studying forests. Preservation of this small block of Old Growth would have zero impact on you and nearly zero impact on the industry. What is it that you hope to accomplish by spreading misinformation?

[@OldBrownDog]

Good luck

[@Talon19]

They speak for the Trees!

[@dannysteele4013]

I can’t believe that were just cutting these trees down.. that is so sad.. we should be protecting them an helping them grow.. once there Goan that’s it..and what for so sad..

[@andyroubik5760]

Any place that has never been logged never should be.

[@Helaw0lf]

Enough reason to switch to hemp for wooden needs.

[@susanp7059]

What good is smoking pot gonna do?

[@hollymurrison1562]

god damn Shawna you inspire me.

[@uggali]

We have lots of epiphytes growing in our old trees too in NZ. I wonder if our trees grow canopy roots like your trees do? I’m planting native plants and controlling weeds around our gardens, around our paddock, and in the wetlands and springs below my house. Before Pākehā came here and logged the trees and altered the waterways and cratered the mountains i live at a place where once stood lowland temperate rainforest and swamp rainforest. In the swamp grows kahikātea which can grow 60m the tallest tree in NZ. NZ forests are composed of trees which can live 2,000 years so i think our forests share some commonalities

[@derek-64]

I find this absolutely disgusting. People are willing to destroy beautiful places like this in favor of making money. They are greedy and should be ashamed. We should do everything we can to help protect those forests.

[@jakobraahauge7299]

beautifully spoken - beautifully terrifying!

[@EricAbroad]

How is logging the old growth even legal? It should be protected like National Parks. Shame on companies who want to destroy the tiny amount of natural old growth that remains.

[@seanc6128]

Just in time for the wildfires.