PC Engine Longplay [018] Juuouki CD

[@dave4shmups]

Wow! The music, at least before the game starts, sounds better then the arcade cab! So does the digitized speech.

[@yohkom.7988]

lol and, "wow", once in-game you deal with hucard music and some laughable sound effects. Actually a lot of PC Engine CD games have bad sound effects which drag down the whole experience, especially some shooters such as Sapphire or Hellfire.

[@infinitecanadian]

The digitized speech is the same as is used in the arcade.

[@DigitalHaze65536]

There are more to graphics than colors on screen. Plus on a very technical level the TG-16 had limits in how those colors were applied compared to the MD/Genesis. The MD/Genesis simply had more overall power. All you need do is play the games from each platform and it becomes apparent quickly. The PC Engine simply looks more "flat" compared to the Genesis, and I don't know if it's lack of ram or CPU...but the levels do not contain as much graphic data or complexity either.

[@jimkrom]

Yeah ghouls and ghosts is a good examp...ohhh wait....

[@DigitalHaze65536]

@@jimkrom Hey smart guy, Ghouls N' Ghosts was on the SuperGrafx, NOT the TurboGrafx/Pc Engine. ohhh wait.....

[@jimkrom]

@@DigitalHaze65536 ok smart guy, how about street fighter 2 c.e., devil's crush, turrican, cadash, air buster, bomberman 94??? Ohh and since you are talking about detailed graphics, let me also remind you that outrun AND afterburner 2 look better on the pc engine and they are a sega property ... such a shame...

[@EssJay00]

"The PC-Engine CD version (released only in Japan) incorporated a story mode, was only a single player game, and also had the arcade version's sound effects and voices." I guess we're both right in a way....

[@Swamplord]

A really nice version of the game, color me impressed lol.

[@pietjebel9130]

I've got mixed feelings about this game. Some graphics are nice, some are bad (a lot of level backgrounds), some sound effects are aweful, some are nice. Same with the music. My conclusion: I prefer the Mega Drive version

[@Mysterious0Bob]

I didn't even know there was a Pc Engine version. That story intro is pretty cool.

[@jeweltara]

Graphically better dose not always mean a better game.

[@CarozQH]

No CD music? Well, that's kinda lame for a 'CD game...

[@yohkom.7988]

Indeed. And the sound effects are quite laughable.

[@GuardYourFlanks]

Very cool! I didn't know there was a CD version of this game on the PCE.

[@AnimatedAF]

Interesting that it has a fully voiced intro, but darn is it long!

[@SEGAbits]

Came here to research a podcast and thought the same thing, haha!

[@bisexualbuffthug]

Thanks for posting! I been waiting to see the long play version!! :)

[@figment1988]

what's funny is that Neff will make a cameo in Wreck It Ralph.

[@retrobeastgames]

Great port of the game. Excellent Long Play Thank's :o)

[@GRANDOVERLORD77]

LOL, his last transformation as a rhino wrestler was the easiest to defeat than all the other forms he took.

[@HyperRoboTenguris1984]

12:09 - Whenever I see the player turn into the Werebear, three words come to my mind: Smokey the Bear.

[@tightlypackedcoil]

PC engine games did not support more than one background layer or any sort of parallax scrolling without some programming tricks, which is why they appear flatter. With that said, this version features scaling effects and animations more closely resembling the arcade than even the Genesis version. It's a mixed bag. Look at World Heroes 2 or Art of Fighting for the PC Engine and compare those to the Genesis versions.

[@imapisces1]

tightlypackedcoil It had multiple scrolling backgrounds on many games, just not this one.

[@tightlypackedcoil]

imapisces1 read my post again. I never said it had no games that featured parallax scrolling, merely that it required a lot more work to pull it off since it wasn't supported in hardware.

[@wwjnz9263]

Now I know where the voices for the Sound Mod on Steam, came from.

[@DGneoseeker1]

Whoa. WHOA. What? PC engine version of Sonic 1?!

[@barbackers]

Gotta say, after watching this side by side with your Mega Drive play through, I gotta give my nod to the MD/Genesis version. While the sound wasn't as good, and the stages were much much shorter, I actually liked the character design better, the transformation close ups were done better, and it had more enemies. I notice the PCE version was missing the unicorns and the rhino type things on the last stage. And I like the ability to punch and hit the credits at the end too. That was a nice touch in the MD/Genesis version as well. Cool to see them side by side though.

[@yohkom.7988]

I prefer the sound on Mega Drive. This PC Engine CD version still has the same music as the the regular PC Engine (Hucard) version which is lame and the sound effects are weak. The only improvement is the added voices which were lacking with the Hucard version.

[@CapeWearingSchmuck]

Not quite correct. The CD version does have enhanced sound effects, beyond the just the voices.

[@yohkom.7988]

Enhanced?! They sound terrible, the hit sound effects are weak and the sound when enemies die is laughable ("piouu"). Beside the PC Engine CD version lacks co-op play. Also I noticed that both PC Engine Hucard and CD versions lack two kinds of enemies: the flying imp at stage 4 and the sort of human boar at stage 5. And since PC Engine controller has limited amount of action buttons now you have to press up for jump, not as handy, especially since these versions have stiff controls, the Hucard version in particular which is painful to play. The Mega Drive port is not perfect either but overall is a more enjoyable experience and it's quite revealing since it was a very early release, only one month after the system launch, while both PC Engine versions were released more than two years after the system launch and one with CD support and despite all this none of them top the Mega Drive version! So imagine if Sega had released the Mega Drive port a bit later, with more development time and bigger cart size? The gap would have been even larger... But Sega needed a flagship title for their new console and Altered Beast was quite a nice choice at the time.

[@drfloorpills]

Holy shit the narrator is Char Aznable

[@jimmybiggs9230]

They should have used the actual arcade music from cd and used the processor complete sound for voice. It would have been one step closer to the arcade....

[@shingoldenwarrior]

NEC you need to make the PC engine/turbografx16 flashback like atari did with their systems.

[@braikingboss9137]

and 8 years later, I'm here to tell you that the actually did

[@DarkSparkish]

The image at 00:55 looks familiar to the Sega Genesis box of this game.

[@YoBoiDavidBanks]

It is

[@DarkSparkish]

@@YoBoiDavidBanks Holy hell. I forgot I posted this comment almost 10 years ago. Lol. "Looks *familiar*".

[@ZhaneMasaki]

The Narrator.. He is a Char!

[@DeBurgo]

I think this has more to do with the fact that it's the PC Engine CD version than the fact that it's the japanese version

[@Sandlot1992]

where's the english subtitles for the story while told in japanese!

[@PrimevalDemon]

Best console ever. Even greater than neo geo pocket. No I will not elaborate.

[@shimasterc]

I honestly can't tell if the music is cd data or if it's from the internal sound processor. I can't imagine it being cd, but it seems a bit better than internal sound I've heard from other cd games (like Cosmic Fantasy)

[@Technosphile]

You can roll a turd in crushed diamonds, but you know what it still is?

[@Conan_the_Based]

So why DID the bad guy turn her into a bird?

[@RocMegamanX]

@Soukyugurentai That's the problem. I never owned a Turbo-Grafx. I'm not saying that they're bad. I wouldn't play Military Madness though, since it's a tactical game, and if it's anything like Advance Wars, then I'd have nightmares trying to beat that game. I was just comparing the two ports of Altered Beast. I like that they added the voices from the Arcade version, but at the same time, I don't like the Music or the Animation within the game and this is supposed to be on a CD.

[@gc3k]

Having never played the game it looks like a more accurate port than the MD version, but it's still inferior to the MD port (smaller sprites and low quality sound fx)

[@Ahmadu100]

Dear Cubex55,You need to start your own internet show like "The Angry Video Game Nerd" did I'm pretty sure it would be a hit!!!

[@kico127]

@GustavoMdeOliveira: It is in this version, but the Genesis version makes it sound like Elmer Fudd was saying it.

[@Korgi_Polymer]

is this for CD, was the intro a part of the game, if not then your a good sinker.

[@malducci]

@RocMegamanX Dracula X as a SuperCD game. This was a CD 1.0. Figure it out first if you're gonna talk trash.

[@benetjay]

cd version but hucard is the same without the story scene menu

[@OriginalName90]

Actually, this was developed by NEC Avenue, so I doubt it was a matter of it being an active attempt to downgrade from the Mega Drive version. You're absolutely right though, the game (particularly this CD version) should have been much more.

[@cLaRkDamn]

too many tombstones for that poor stella

[@aryinc]

@deadlygroove1 i like the pc engine to but consider that sega was a arcade powerhouse back then,and they really relied on their console for doing the same and it did that fairly well.we got some good and better ports on the sega,altred beast hang on outrun final fight strider they serve the genesis right even if the graphics lacked colour they're still the best from that time converted to home.And the lack of colour is just a point they brought up when snes arived.

[@MileagePostponed]

How the heck did PCE get permission from Sega to use Altered Beasts?

[@elawson10]

Um... Anyone got an HD/4K Version of a full playthrough of the PC Engine-CD of Juuouki? I can't seem to find ANY decent ones...

[@bugs1yb1ins]

Man, I grew so fond of the Genesis version I prefer its cranky sounds and worse graphics to these ones.

[@DBoy2029]

Um, it'd be nice if someone could volunteer to translate the intro.

[@homejonny9326]

the sound of enemies "exploding" is quite weird and do not fit well

[@Burialhound]

That intro is way too long for a beat em' up, I did not know that altered beast had so much background to it.

[@MileagePostponed]

Strange. It seems like Sega's last two systems (Saturn and Dreamcast) fair better in Japan, lasting a few more years, than it did in the west.

[@AlexOjideagu2]

MileagePostponed But ironically the Megadrive/genesis did far better in America and Europe than Japan

[@chaos120m]

I am confused as the why there would be crosses on the graves if this is based on greek mythology.

[@Da1shocker]

The voices sound great but the sounds effects sound odd and the music seems like it's chip based not redbook audio.

[@thewashingtonguy8746]

Lack of CD space is to blame.

[@RocMegamanX]

@malducci Dude, how was I supposed to know there were different types of CDs for this thing?

[@GustavoMdeOliveira]

@kico127 ??? the correct is: "Rise from your grave"

[@MxArgent]

WEL-Come to yah DOOM!

[@malducci]

@RocMegamanX I dunno. Live and learn? :D Don't worry about it or take it too seriously. People that do know, often get annoyed when other people make ignorant statements and assumptions. It's human nature to correct or speak out. I'm sure you yourself have done it to someone else on YT or in RL ;)

[@davidbermudez7704]

It’s close to Arcade

[@kristophsams5036]

Makes me glad I grew up on the Genesis and the Arcade versions. This was horrible. The only thing it has going for it is their semi ported graphics. Even then it still manages to mess that up as well. They just felt like they slept through the transformations which was one of the best things about this game at the time. The entire transformation of the wolf was missing like they phoned it in. The game feels like a cheap subpar port of the genesis version. Sure the genesis scaled down the graphics but they tried as hard as they good to keep everything as close to the arcade as possible given their limitations with the console.

[@bisexualbuffthug]

This is another example that prooves that pc engine version of goldenaxe was due to lazy programming! Pc engine can duplicate arcade games very well when the programmers take the time to program the correct way on pc engine!

[@MariaElenaHall]

Me neither! I only knew the MegaDrive one!

[@bisexualbuffthug]

Pc engine version has all the animation from the arcade. Not even genesis version had the full animation.

[@eugeneketaminekrebs3403]

bisexualbuffthug:I know your comment was from 9 years ago but are you serious? The animation is choppy as shit.

[@LaVeyCharkusVeros]

What's this? You say you had to buy a CD just to see the intro?! I mean, the intro is awesome and very well produced, I liked it a lot, but in the actual game the sounds come from the PC Engine's internal sound chip! Why would someone spend an extra buck just to see an intro while expecting new CD quality sounds just to be disappointed by getting the exact same HuCard version instead? By the way, I've always wondered, how is it that the arcade ending never made it to any of the home ports...

[@thewashingtonguy8746]

That was always my thing too. Why make a CD game and not have CD music tracks? I guess maybe because of lack of CD space.

[@johnedsel]

It doesn't. They just made up a backstory to pad out a very basic platform game to justify the cd-rom re-release with a super-inflated price tag. U can cut and paste this comment apply it to any number of 1990s console games.

[@collinphizacklea5322]

Not cd soundtrack but nice non cd stuff ok then...qwepey power up voice is good as cd ...POWER UP YES TO THIS... good graphics but small looks to them..

[@kico127]

It's weird to not hear "Wise fwom your gwave!!"

[@Abyssal_Mayura]

"RiSe FrOm YoUr GrAvE."

[@Senhordaverdadeabsol]

I guess it has something to do with Atena, and a really scary white bold guy with no eyes and a naughty smile...but is funny how these cutscenes on PC engine versions of SEGA games are able to change even Sonic1 sounds like an epic RPG stuff

[@Incognito1986]

1:20. I'm going to have nightmares for a week now. :-(

[@YoBoiDavidBanks]

Good

[@OriginalName90]

The Sega Genesis(/Mega Drive) was not the kind of success in Japan that it was in the US and Europe -- although people in the west associate Sega with a brief period of great success in the early 90's, it was paired with dismal Japanese sales and overly-expensive western ads. Sega was never really wealthy enough to do what they did (which is why I respect them so much), but here they're desperately cannibalizing their first-party market to make some dough prior to their western console success.

[@AlexOjideagu2]

OriginalName90 Also the Master System outsold the NES in Europe

[@lailanitaganap2402]

PC Engine is capable of doing much better what do you expect Sega gonna have a worst port when it's there game.

[@RigbyIsTheMan]

lol alteared beast box art 00:55

[@DGneoseeker1]

Anyone know what the intro is actually saying?

[@ATARI800XLfan]

is this the CD or Hu-card version?

[@thewashingtonguy8746]

Hu-Card.

[@seik666]

Can you play with 2 players on this version?

[@am8is11]

テッドが、戦ってるwww

[@zenitpro]

Though the arcade ending is not present in the ports, the NES version actually has a great ending, a thousand times better than the Genesis'.

[@jasonlee7816]

if the NES version looks, plays, sounds crap it isn't a 1,000 times better

[@bisexualbuffthug]

This is how the sprites should have been on pc engine goldenaxe! But no they programmed a tacky version of goldenaxe on pc engine with funky lil sprites that looked worse then sega master system version. Sega master system has large sprites like arcade! Lazy programming!

[@RocMegamanX]

WTF?! The music and animation are kinda inferior to the Arcade version. Looks like other than Dracula X and Bonk, Sega can do what NECAN'T.

[@winstong2000]

I had this game for Pc-engine but it was a Hu Card and it was terrible and too hard

[@guitmm]

Nice conversion, but poor game.

[@EssJay00]

Typical that the japanese version has a story and the eur/us versions just throw you into the game straight away.

[@aryinc]

sega version looked a shitload better with the paralax etc.

[@wrathovgod5099]

not very good music for a CD-ROM game

[@emmynonm8091]

No se que dice. Esta como en japones!! LOL jk idk. :P

[@welshfinn1]

weak final boss, sub level 1 sonic

[@atanvardo5730]

What a crappy port. Disappointing for a PC Engine game.

[@poppylevell]

lol the last boss looked dead easy