PC-Engine Mini - Details, Features, and Emulation Quality / MY LIFE IN GAMING

Coury and Try discuss the new PC-Engine Mini from Konami. How does it hold up against the original hardware and other mini consoles out there?
-----
★ Featured Gear & Games ★
► Turbografx-16 Mini (Amazon Affiliate Link)
:: amzn.to/2X36P93
► Gear, Games & Idea Lists (Amazon Affiliate Link)
:: www.amazon.com/shop/mylifeing...
► Metal print background art provided by Displate (Affiliate Link)
:: displate.com/mylifeingaming?a...
-----
♫ If you'd like to help support the channel, here are some ways to do so ♫
► Support our endeavors on Patreon
:: / mylifeingaming
► One time donation via PayPal
:: www.paypal.me/mlig
-----
‼ We receive a small percentage from sales using the following links at no cost to you, with no influence on the content ‼
► Amazon (Games, Tech & More)
:: amzn.to/2sDGprP
► Castlemania Games (Controllers, HDMI Cables & More)
:: castlemaniagames.com/?ref=mlig
► Stone Age Gamer (Flash Carts, Retrode & More)
:: stoneagegamer.com/?afmc=mlig
► Best Buy (Games, Tech & More)
:: bestbuy.7tiv.net/YaeLj
► Retro-Access (US Based SCART & BNC Cables)
:: retro-access.com/?aff=4
► Retro Gaming Cables (UK Based SCART & BNC Cables)
:: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/?...
► Solaris Japan (XRGB Mini Framemeister)
:: solarisjapan.com/collections/m...
-----
♫ Theme Music♫
"Principle" by Matt McCheskey
matthewmccheskey.bandcamp.com/
nightvoice.bandcamp.com/
-----
✔ Shipping ✔
Coury Carlson
My Life in Gaming
P.O. Box 72172
Newport, KY 41072
Marc "Try4ce" Duddleson
My Life in Gaming
P.O. Box 2684
Indian Trail, NC 28079
-----
❤ Social ❤
www.mylifeingaming.com
/ mylifeingaming
/ mylifeingames
-----
My Life in Gaming makes documentaries, deep dives into retro console hardware, and more.

[@Dragon1276]

Konami owns the rights to all of Hudson’s IP, which includes the PC Engine. NEC was just the hardware maker, Hudson designed everything.

[@jesushenrik8631]

instablaster...

[@AnthonyRiddle]

Just got mine in the mail today. What a cool little console. I think I like it a little better than the NES or SNES classic. I love the UI. So freaking cool with the Hu card and CD animation. It's much more satisfying than I could have ever imagined. The game selection is pretty damn good too, with only a handful of games that weren't included that should have been. Absolutely love the controller. It's the first time I've ever held a PC-Engine controller and I love it just as much as I always thought I would. The d-pad is excellent and rolls really nice.

[@CrixxAU]

Gotta say, I love the conversational format for these videos, feels much more natural and engaging.

[@GoldenSirius]

I disagree. It usually feels poorly put together with very little testing done and it's just "impressions" which ultimately are useless when you want data. That being said, this video was still pretty good.

[@efwefwef4747]

Your audio is perfect Why can no one else do this?

[@AirshBornely]

I've always wanted a PC Engine ever since I discovered its games, so I'm happy I got the mini. I just hope we can hack it soon to add more games in and maybe fix some of the issues of possible

[@TheK1ngFiasco]

They touched on this in their Genesis mini overview, but they said don't be too set on hacking these things. They've found that the emulator inside them is really optimized to run those specific games that it comes with and adding other titles can cause problems in the games you add like lag, audio issues, and more.

[@SpeccyHorace]

@@TheK1ngFiasco I'm just going to be happy with having Retroarch on the side for any added games I think.

[@GoldenSirius]

Why would you hack it to add more games, when you're never even going to finish all the games available on it right now?

[@Mindboggle100]

This isn't a PC engine console. You may as well just run a good emulator on your existing computer, probably have a better experience.

[@j0nnyism]

Try finishing at least one shooter before concerning yourself with more

[@Reluctant_Hero]

Awesome. I’m always down for a new MLiG episode. Thanks, guys!

[@drewirons2646]

Try got that quarantine scruff going.

[@Superdimensional]

Just the video I wanted to see on this lovely quarantine day! Thanks MLG

[@SmokeMonster]

Great overview by my favorite overviewers :D

[@francochan]

I’m still so sour that this pandemic is delaying the release of the other regions, but I’m so thrilled to hear YOU GUYS talk about it. Have you been able to try the Hyperkin HDMI cable for TG-16 and compare it to this mini console, and a RGB-modded TG-16 via a OSSC / XRGB mini?

[@sega_kid4288]

Why would you compare a $100 device to $400 worth of equipment?

[@jbear4433]

It’s from Hyperkin, their HDMI products for anything before the Wii are bad.

[@yobama5288]

@@sega_kid4288 Go blow your money on toilet paper

[@francochan]

I know this mini console is a great option. Just wanted know how the video/audio/lag compares on both options.

[@sjb626]

The card insert startup animation is such a nice touch. Take my money!

[@InglebardGaming]

The issues that some of these 'mini' revival systems suffer from really mystifies me. I feel like in some cases emulators from almost 25 years ago running on 200mhz single core Pentiums work with less audio lag than these brand new systems. I'm not here to trash M2 or anything, I just don't understand why at this point, in this day and age, these games that can be emulated on extremely modest hardware aren't completely perfect.

[@Fattydeposit]

It's called capitalism. M2 were tasked to build the software for a cheap $100 novelty toy and presumably they did everything possible within their time constraints and budget. Konami could feasibly have settled on the system sporting beefier specs than something less powerful than a Raspberry Pi 2 - but obviously this wouldn't have been anywhere near as commercially viable / profitable.

[@Jucelegario]

Because they want to sell you revised versions of them. Like a 4K one with a couple of extra games and so on (now you can do this, you can do that). Also, I think M2 is overwhelmed with everyone telling them to do their emulation compilation of retro games, not only for mini consoles, but for pc, current gen consoles, ps5 and xbox series x.

[@jenniferlynn3579]

Modest hardware and "completely perfect" are miles away from eachother. To this day, you can play very nearly completely perfect accuracy SNES games using Higan/BSNES but you need much more than "modest" hardware. And i get that maybe your wording was inaccurate to what your actual point was, but even then, the reason the pc-engine mini doesnt have better sound, display options, and accuracy/compatability is due to the cost of diminishing returns. The better they fine tuned the system the more time and money sunk into R&D, and since they are on a deadline from Konami, (definitely not a company you want to be on the bad side of) there's a cut-off point where it becomes "good enough" and must be shipped before you start losing money on the venture. Nintendo, on the other hand, is a toy and game company. They have tons of experience with this kind of thing, and are willing to put a lot of effort into delivering the best presentation of their brand. The NES classic was on-par or better than most higher end mini consoles to date, but still suffered the usual complaints, so they went back and improved up the existing hardware as much as possible rather than creating something completely new or different, and thats how we got the SNES classic. The pinnacle of mini consoles. With input latency so low it is actually faster than dedicated Windows, Linux, and Pi emulation machines. Outstanding.

[@InglebardGaming]

I feel like you're letting the developers off the hook, here. I didn't misspeak when I said 'modest hardware,' I was referring to old single core, pentium computers from over 25 years ago and how well emulators for older systems like the PCE ran in those early days . A lot of emulators back then, including for systems like the PC Engine and Genesis ran with less sound lag issues than we see on these mini systems being released literally decades later. The mini systems are using hardware that is way more powerful than those old computers, despite having a different architecture (x86 vs ARM). I don't think anyone can make a compelling argument to say that a 1ghz ARM system isn't sufficiently powerful to emulate the PC Engine in particular without sound lag. Therefore the problem lies entirely with the developers of the software. Yes, they may have budgets and time constraints, but M2 has been at this for a long time now so it just seems they think their flawed end product is just fine. I respect your thoughtful reply and appreciate the time you put into it. If you're talking cycle accurate emulation for older systems with unique hardware like the SNES, then yes I agree with you that you need significantly powerful hardware. But just to run games at full speed, with no perceptible issues and without sound lag for even almost all of the SNES library, you don't need cycle accurate emulation. I'll conclude by saying M2 does a lot of interesting work and I like a lot of what they do... the Sega Ages games they've put out and updated on Nintendo platforms have generally been really good. I just don't get why they can't seem to solve the somewhat severe audio lag on the mini consoles they've worked on.

[@Jucelegario]

@@jenniferlynn3579 They can give us perfect emulation on a more than modest hardware (specially the likes of Nintendo and Konami) and they will still make a profit, albeit not maximizing earnings like all companies mantra these days. I feel like if this mini consoles were released 30 years ago, we would have 101 perfect quality products because I imagine today, their Twitter market research department told them that most of the public feels "good enough emulation" is what they want. These days, we pay the price of normiedom, whether it is with this or with the spreading of the bug.

[@spookylemon4947]

Hope you guys are both doing alright through all that is going on. You’re one of my favourite channels.

[@Ty___824]

Crap. I was about to be productive. Guess I can wait 30 minutes

[@rcmadnessminitruckclub]

I just got my TurboGrafx 16the other day. I loved that system when I was kid. SO happy to have it back.

[@icenode]

Really like the conversational style on this one gents, great work as ever!

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] It's edited but we were taking to each other over Discord.

[@icenode]

@@mylifeingaming Yeah I figured you were separately recording, but still talking directly too. It works really well!

[@guerillagrueplays6301]

I really want one of these things. Alternatively, it would be cool to see something like a TG-16 collection released for the regular consoles. The majority of my Switch library is already compilations (including all 3 of the Konami Classics collections,) so this would be an excellent addition to that.

[@sargesmash1]

Pretty disappointing that they still couldn't rectify the sound and input lag issues that were also there on the Genesis Mini. The NES Classic unfortunately has sound lag as well, but it seems like Nintendo figured things out for the SNES Classic. Between the minimal input lag and sound lag, as well as the better-looking 4:3 mode, I'd say the SNES Classic still stands as the gold standard for these mini consoles. I've also been a bit disappointed in M2 recently - it doesn't feel like they're living up to their reputation. I'm not sure if they've even fixed the broken Castlevania revision in Castlevania Anniversary Collection, for example. I honestly don't understand it, because the hardware between all of these systems (NES, Genesis, SNES, PC Engine) are pretty much identical. There shouldn't be a power issue here.

[@SeveredLegs]

I don't think that M2 really had this glowing reputation that people talked about. I never heard about them until I saw some interview on KZbin doing a retrospective on them. I think everyone watched that video and assumed they had always been respected.

[@sargesmash1]

Very possible. I mean, there's no question they do better work than most commercial products, but nothing I've seen matches what the emulation community has put out there.

[@mscottjohnson3424]

Emulation is the way to go. I have ever so slightly reduced lag (by a frame or two at most) using a Linux computer rather than Windows, but anything outputting over HDMI to an HDTV will have lag. I have an old VGA to component converter I used to use to connect my laptop to my CRT in college (mostly for movies) that might cut lag significantly, but none of my current computers has a VGA port. I do most of my 8 and 16 bit gaming on a Japanese Retro Freak clone console. It's about as high end as they get. Still some lag, but nothing you'd notice unless you're speed running or playing Street Fighter at a high level or something like that. Some minor sound emulation issues with Genesis games, but nothing deal breaking.

[@BigSnipp]

@@mscottjohnson3424 The RetroTink is lag free.

[@mscottjohnson3424]

@@BigSnipp Retro Freak, not Tink. I have a Retro Tink as well that I run old consoles through. You're right, virtually lag free, only that CRTs actually display images faster than HDTVs because they don't have to process the entire image into a frame before displaying. It's why you need a CRT for light gun games. But yes, virtually lag free.

[@MousePounder]

Thanks Try and Coury! 🖖🏼

[@GameplayandTalk]

Great overview guys. Shame about that input lag. I'd like to get my hands on one of these just to see how bad it is for myself. Still great to see all the care put into this thing though. That Super System Card and CD spin-up had me grinning from ear to ear.

[@Manfresjr]

I'm here because of a channel that I follow and that indicated your channel. Retro Quest is the name. I loved the videos on your channel. I'll follow. A hug bear from Brazil.

[@garycormack]

Lag is a big put off, 4-5 frames on top of built in lag in some games is a bit too hard to swallow for me. You can tell these guys have a lot of respect for M2, sounded quite apprehensive in expressing their criticism.

[@rodrigohonorio]

Yes, you can see the apprehension in Marc's way of speaking

[@Lightblue2222]

They did say Lord Of Thunder was basically unplayable. Makes me think the other shooters may not be so hot either..

[@dadrising6464]

@@Lightblue2222 there are others that compared lord of thunders lag to the og version.. if you are not playing on an crt, your screen will probably introduce way more lag. Calling it unplayable is more a matter of personal shmup skills than to blame on lag.. Sure, if you are going for some top scoring or speedrunning that aditional lag is a no-go.. but those tend to play on og hardware/crt.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Gary Cormack Yeah, I know how he feels, M2’s work has been lacking a lot of important features recently or having obvious issues, I’m sure it’s not their fault (probably not being given enough budget or time) but I hope their work improves again soon.

[@SeveredLegs]

@@justanotheryoutubechannel not enough time? This supposedly legendary company can't do what people working on emulators since the 90's have been able to do? Marine they just aren't that talented.

[@TheK1ngFiasco]

As always, very well done. I do wish a bit more time was spent comparing the differences between the different regions lineups, but otherwise another very well done MLiG Mini

[@ms.ilovecotton9778]

Thanks for the review 💕

[@torokun]

Do you know of any of these mini consuls that updated firmware to deal with some of these issues you’re talking about?

[@ElricSowrd]

I've heard about the PC Engine Mini recently. And I am aware about the whole V**** thing. 15:00- I would use the Bezel Wallpaper. Anything with color just to fill in the sides. 17:44- Now that you mention it, I had this issue with Arcade Contra 1 on the Contra Collection if you Save and it would randomly happen if you Load.

[@Screwy]

I find it super interesting that you can see very clear UI overlap between this and the Genesis Mini, like the settings menu looks almost the exact same in layout. Also I'm still really sad Snatcher isn't translated, even if I understand why

[@RUOK2000]

Oh man that turbo express overlay is a pretty cool novelty. Great video guys stay safe

[@charlesdrake7119]

You guys ought to do a video on retro gaming with projectors!

[@rowanunderwood]

This is exactly why I have to tweak my resolutions on my CRT arcade cabinet on a game by game basis. It is so painful, and a lot of the wikipedia pages list the incorrect resolutions also!

[@johnbcardin]

“It’s much more appealing to me to have the smaller unit”

[@Superdimensional]

John Cardin -She

[@drunkensailor112]

Is what your mother never said

[@livingcorpse5664]

Some people prefer smaller units, some people it hurts and is uncomfortable to have a big one shoved in their space.

[@DenkyManner]

@@drunkensailor112 you're saying his dad had a big dick?

[@xplics]

WHAT UP DUN!!!

[@cinnamondan4984]

The three button for the Western Sega MDs was a good idea. Did not undercut its six button controllers at the time

[@nensondubois]

Definitely plan on getting a TG16 mini.

[@esprithk]

The CORE version that is released in Europe comes with the turbo controller.

[@fernando929305]

You guys are awesome. One the best channel games ever. Greetings from Brazil.

[@awake4ages]

Interested to see if modders can fix some of the issues. Think I'll still keep my TG preorder though, seems serviceable enough and those arcade-restoration bonus ROMs you mentioned are very appealing. I still need to get my hands on a Genesis mini to check out that port of Darius...

[@3ambreakbeats977]

Can they put graphic interpolation or audio no lag in a update/upgrade , do these mini have WiFi to upgrade system or emu setting?

[@SuperLuigiSixty4]

The lag on the Genesis Mini absolutely cripples Sonic 1 & 2. Had to install the Project Lunar mod just to reduce the lag. Not too bad after.

[@proud90skid15]

SuperLuigiSixty4 do you have to change the emulator to get better performance? Or does the mod beef up the performance of the stock emulator?

[@JGRICH61]

Did project lunar actually fix input lag on genesis mini?

[@darinherrick2503]

One thing that's really funny is that I'm using cheap HDMI converters at home and a projector at home. I'm getting like 50 frames of lag and don't notice! LOL The only thing is I have to calibrate Rock Band in my living room.

[@haydenhyde9395]

Do you know how the emulation of Ys 1 and 2 compares to the Wii virtual console version?

[@Protoman85]

I'm interested in this because I'm curious about the PC-Engine but I don't want to start collecting for it either

[@TornacenseDeFuturo]

Hi, Can you check if PVM-X2400 is the best 4K gaming TV? You recommended the PVM-2044QM for retro gaming and now Sony released a new 4K version of the PVM series.

[@Comic_editz17]

Can you guys make a video with the polymega all in one emulator console?

[@livingcorpse5664]

So are we getting a Turbo Duo mini?

[@StandingUpForBetter]

Very well done! I snatched up as many Turbografx-16 games on the Wii VC before they took the service down but there are many games that did not make it there so this mini console really looks appealing to me. Speaking of "snatched", did I see Snatcher is included in this collection? Is there an option for English dialogue? I know the Mega CD/ Sega CD version was the only official release of the English dialogue but if that option is included here that alone would be worth the price of the whole system.

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] No it's Japanese only. :(

[@chutton988]

There's no translation option, unfortunately. Liked your comment since I got a bunch of TG-16 things on the Virtual Console as well.

[@GamerDan89]

This is the most quality and serious content I have seen on KZbin for a long long time! Thank you for spreading that love for videogames! ❤

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Damn, I love the music in this video! Where can I find some of the tracks you guys used?

[@pholly]

I'm happy the Genesis mini came with the original 3 button controller, it's easy to buy a 6 button controller if you want one but nobody else is making the 3 button version.

[@cinnamondan4984]

Mr. Mayhem 100% feeling the same. Also helped Sega’s own Genesis mini from the other clones.

[@WeizHerGigBuddy]

I just got my mini Turbo in the mail 3 days ago, and i've already put in more time on it than the year and a half my mini NES has been in my house. They should have made the hucard slot an expansion port

[@dannylashofficial1669]

Love your t-shirt Coury where can I get one of these?

[@DCGX]

I received my preordered Core Graphx from Amazon Japan today. I'm in the US. I didn't notice much lag. There definitely is a frame or two, but after watching this video I checked out Lords of Thunder again and it played just fine. I had no trouble with it. Maybe my TV and its game mode can compensate enough where it isn't a problem for me. In regards to the turbo buttons, I can't tell if they're actually doing anything. No matter which setting or game I have them on, the button seems to always do the same thing. One thing I'm interested to know is if anyone has gotten any other USB controllers to work with their mini? I tried the 8bitdo M30 2.4g USB controller I use with my Genesis mini, the dongle is synced with the controller, but it doesn't work. I didn't really expect it to, but it would be nice

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Lords of Thunder and Space Harrier are really kicking my ass I dont remember them being very hard before. The lag may be the culprit

[@willmistretta]

Weird that they actually went as far as to make new, improved versions of several of the games, but figured 3-5 frames of extra lag, delayed sound effects, and shimmery scrolling were A-OK. Priorities.

[@TheK1ngFiasco]

I may be mistaken but I think the 3-5 frames of lag is just from being on an HDTV and is unavoidable. It does suck they didn't trim the lag that the games themselves inherently have though, but that's probably a ton of work since it's all on a game-by-game basis.

[@CRISHTANG]

Hello, I was the one who was doing the lag tests. The lag is not from being tube vs lcd; there's only 1/2 frame to 1 frame of difference there and I was taking into that account. Even against the Ootake emulator which is 2 frames behind real hardware, the Mini was 2-3 frames behind the emulator, as seen in the second example shown. Lords of Thunder has 3-4 frames of built-in input lag on an actual system and Space Harrier has 4-5 frames!

[@NCBrianS]

What is the song that starts at 12:22?

[@mjmonjure]

Great editing, for 2 different videos. Actually sounds like you are having a conversation.

[@Japan_Changed_My_Life]

Love your channel. I have a PC Engine COREGRAFX Mini arriving today via DHL. Very excited as I've wanted one of these since I first discovered it in EGM magazine in 1990. Amazon JP is the easiest way to get these. 👍 I may also get a TG 16 Mini for the sake of collecting it but I'm not a fan of how large it is...

[@rDanny]

Is there a 6 button controller available for the tg16 mini

[@mattb9664]

Still looking forward to picking up the TG16. Lots of games included to hold everyone over until it becomes modded. Corona is even ruining console gaming now.

[@NightWolve75]

Hm, I wasn't subscribed, just noticed, sorry guys, rectified that now! One of the greatest gaming channels all around! :)

[@studiokadaver]

Great video. I’ve never invested in these minis but, I’m glad it gives less hardcore/hardware people a chance to experience these old systems. Personally I’ll stick to my SuperGraFx & SSDS3 for PCE & TG16 goodness.

[@IRMacGuyver]

@16:05 is there sound lag on a retropi?

[@dontcallmejon]

Whats the emulator lords of thunder was running on, looks fantastic.

[@HikikomoriDev]

Can you use the USB controller on Windows?

[@GeminiJay654]

Excellent video, guys! You continue to make this pandemic so much more bearable, thank you!

[@fictionsgamepad3497]

I think these mini systems are fine for like a living room that you can play with your kids. But only if you have the real deal stuff in your game room.

[@inceptional]

I would say that the menu here is definitely superior to the Genesis Mini one, as was the SNES menu interface that is very similar to this one on the PC-Engine Mini, so that's one bonus point right there alone. In fact, all round I think this menu might be the best of the bunch with the slickest design, most options and so on.

[@emmettturner9452]

The reason Sega/M2 released the Genesis/Megadrive Mini with a 3-button controller in the west because they sold off the design to the western 6-button controller years ago. The Japanese 6-button arcade pad had a different design.

[@nitronamous]

I basically have all of the original hardware for the TG-16 but still want a pc engine mini. In the end it will be easier to have the mini connected to my 4K tv.

[@PixelOutlaw]

The TurbografX-16 is costly these days to enjoy. I was only able to get my console and Soldier Blade. Happy to have it but I look forward to this.

[@caseykoons]

I appreciate the point you made here. While I can appreciate that a system like this has faults, the price difference between this mini console and what it would cost to play all those games on original hardware (with a modern TV, properly up-scaled) is something that should be considered here. It's not feasible for many people to legally play these games 'the right way.'

[@Drinkabeerandplayagameofficial]

Coury and Try were social distancing from each other before it was cool Far as the mini goes, it looks pretty nice and I wish I had preordered. Great video as always

[@lutyanoalves444]

lol

[@thanksbetotap]

Drink a Beer and Play a Game It hasn’t come out yet, so still plenty of time to preorder it. It even doesn’t have a release date currently because of COVID-19.

[@j0nnyism]

I think m2 did a stellar job with the genesis so I’m pretty confidant with this. Choosing which variant is the hardest job really. Systems with a lot of shooters are my favourites

[@kupo1upofficial549]

best channel on YT

[@mindscan420]

is it definitely just the PC Engine thats available? Cause on amazon japan you can pick between any 3, and they all say est delivery April 7-10.. but idk, maybe its just glitched or soemthing? I kinda want a Coregrafx cuz it looks cooler.. but not sure whether to just order it or get a pc engine

[@SpeccyHorace]

People are starting to receive their Turbografx ones from Japan.

[@JeffYPbPr]

I enjoy it for what it's worth. I am selling my PC Engine Mini because my TG16 mini comes in from Japan today. I own an original tg16 and play on a CRT and PVM and of course that is the better way to play but the mini's do a decent job if you are a fan of the systems and just want to get quick fix on a flat panel tv without all the $ on scalers for original hardware.

[@MrAnon-fc4nz]

I saw Snatcher in there, that’s cool

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] But only in Japanese because the Sega CD version was the only English release of Snatcher, sadly.

[@32_bit_gamer]

I have my Core Grafx mini. It just came in today.

[@proud90skid15]

Señor Tiz feelings towards it?

[@HedgehogY2K]

My Life in Gaming, I changed my channel name from Jarod Skaff to Retro Guru just to let you know I'm the same person.

[@mmpsp693]

12:39 - where can I get that Phantasy Star poster?

[@mmpsp693]

This one: twitter.com/mylifeingaming/status/933448231098470400

[@TimDavis77]

Really disappointed at the lack of interpolation on this and the Genesis Mini. I might still pick this up, though, if the price drops. A shame only the SNES Mini got interpolation.

[@brunor.1127]

yeah interpolation is so useful, wonder why those two didn't get it, and the SNES/NES we didn't get to set the values but use a preset..

[@AceTrainerX3]

I don't think M2 believes in interpolation.

[@gameplayfirst6548]

@@AceTrainerX3 I believe M2 is overrated.

[@lovelorn88nick]

I noticed the screen issues right away with R-Type, VERY noticeable. And I'm curious why, on my Raspberry Pi running Retropie I've never noticed this with ANY Turbografx-16 games, and I have the screen size the same. Anyone understand this? *Edit* I believe it's due to Interpolation? Maybe these settings can be added in with a Hack/mod?

[@noneed4me2n7]

Maybe because I’m colorblind I’m just not seeing this shimmer everyone is noticing. Either way I think it’s a solid system and can’t wait for it to be hacked.

[@rowanunderwood]

Here is a zoomed in version of non-integer-scale shimmer :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5vQn4qneL1gaJY Horrific isn't it?

[@bigshrimpn]

I want the game Splash Lake on this!

[@Sinisteve]

Why is it that every single scanline filter you see made the whole image dull, looks nothing like a decent crt

[@awake4ages]

It's because as Coury mentioned they're not including any gamma boost, even optionally. When you overlay a lot of dark lines over an image it's only natural it's going to look darker. I don't understand why so many of them don't boost the gamma to compensate for that. Like you said, the image looks basically nothing like a good CRT because of this and I find that disappointing because I'm a huge fan of scanlines myself.

[@DenkyManner]

Has been the same with emulators for decades. The people who make emulators don't seem to be very aware of what scaliness are or what they look like. Most of the image options that include are all wrong, look objectively ugly and nothing like the real hardware they purport to replicate. It's very strange

[@Lightblue2222]

@@DenkyManner they emulate the system well, not the old TV it use to run on. Scanlines aren't actually a part of the games. And on a real CRT I barely actually notice the scanlines.

[@antonymcewan9987]

Thing is, the scanline options on the Analogue FPGA consoles allow for gamma boost and they work really well, making everything customisable. So yeah - why can't every system that has a "filter option" do the same?

[@puma0085]

Very interesting video guys. Under normal circumstances i am not a fan of these mini consoles I prefer to purchase original hardware. I just like the real deal. Unfortunately the Pc engine is a very expensive system to get into. So I am giving to get the mini eventually.

[@IronsWorks1990]

I love all these mini consoles especially when once you hack them and put pretty much what you want on there. It's much more convienient than paying over the odds for these old consoles and games which sometimes don't work and most of the time look bad on a modern TV becuase most of us don't have nor have the room for CRTs anymore.

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

I would like to replace all the RPGs on mine with SHOOTERS fuck all the rest

[@3ambreakbeats977]

What are the 4 hidden games again ?

[@iiCkabodcrane]

Can you use a turbografx mini controller on this?

[@sidearmsalpha]

As much as I enjoy learning about the tech behind video games and the hardware side, I'm glad I'm not so tech savvy that I let it ruin my enjoyment of my retro consoles. I still haven't bought any of these mini systems but I have several of the original consoles. I just need a decent CRT tv to play the older ones on and use the light guns. I have been able to play so many arcade and console games through emulation that seems like it's perfect to me.

[@giacomovalenti8619]

How a 320-pixel wide game manages to still have shimmering when scaled x3 if the resulting image is 4:3? Am I missing something?

[@polycube868]

So I have a couple of questions about these mini consoles...if they output 720p, wouldn't they have really bad input lag because it's being upscaled twice? And secondly, how do these mini systems compare in lag and overall image quality to the Pound Technology/Hyperkin/Level Pike etc adapters?

[@mylifeingaming]

[Try4ce] Oh they look WAY better than those HDMI cables. They are very improperly designed. The internal scale shouldn't add any lag, but the emulation itself does. In my experience, 720p doesn't add much/any lag on most 1080p or 4K TVs I've tested. Most progressive resolutions don't. The bigger issue is 480i, or 240p, because 240p is often treated as 480i.

[@yoman8027]

I'm not sure, I don't notice those differences in sound. I don't notice sound lag in Bonk, and bot Neutopia displays sond the same to me. Maybe this is something only trained ears will notice.

[@flexchief7102]

anyone know the song at 9:15?

[@shoked99]

Thanks for the nice video. So maybe better to get an everdrive for the same price if you already have a console? Of course that is only Hu Card games.

[@jackofallgamesTV]

How do you play 5 player Bomberman games?

[@solidunit]

What's it like if you stretch it to 16:9 then squish it back to 4:3 using your TV setttings ?

[@FirstLast-jm1xl]

There is almost no information anywhere online about whether we can avoid buying the expansive extra controllers (update: 1 video) and the multitap sold by konami on amazon japan. In other words, will generic usb hub and or 3rd party wired usb controllers work with these 3 minis (PCE or TG16 or CG)? On my TG16 mini, I tried 3 different wired USB controllers (sega genesis mini 6 button and 3 button controllers and playstation classic controller) and they did NOT work. I also tried a targus 4 port usb 2.0 hub with the TG16 mini controller and it also didn't work. It seems konami/hori has done this to force purchase of their expensive peripherals, but it would be helpful to know if some other 3rd party personals (wired, not wireless) would work before ordering expensive peripherals from Konami on amazon Japan. Please try out any peripherals you have and post here or anywhere online and or provide links here to any information on this. I can't believe the units have been reviewed by many and yet nobody has mentioned anything about this. It would be a video that would get lots of views ;) The one video (3 days ago) which tests 4 other controllers is helpful but the hori controller that does work is actually more expensive than buying the Konami pc engine mini controller from amazon Japan, after duty/shipping costs, the difference in price is very little so would prefer to get the pc engine controller. Would be helpful if more other usb controllers were tested. And, we need people testing usb hubs and sharing results please.

[@StefanDieWaldfee]

12:14 I could see a few Let's Play episodes in that style, just zoomed in a bit maybe :)

[@jamesgauthier4956]

I don't consider myself hardcore but I really want the turbo Graphics 16 mini if it'll ever come out if you don't I'll try to get the PC engine

[@TheCoolDave]

Ah, the lag... that kills it for me, I'll pop out my original TurboTuo... with a bunch of games. It was cool system back the day. I used to go a game rental store (just a fellow hobbyist place) and I used got BOXES of Japanese shooters.. I used my Duo a lot back the day. I wish I didn't have to return them, I would of had a ton of games for the system... AMAZING shooters...

[@SilverCRXX]

Why was NEC scrubbed from the console ? Coury said that “it made sense” but i’m not sure why that is.

[@NightSprinter]

Neon partly due to licensing, partly due to the fact that Konami owns HudsonSoft and their properties (since HudsonSoft made the system for NEC).

[@MrSadface]

The "ownership" of the PC Engine I find a bit intriguing. I guess people who actually had the real hardware back in the day consider it a part of NEC's computer line. I admit to being younger so my main introduction to it was through the Wii Virtual Console, and that was back when Hudson Soft was still around. I've been under the impression that Hudson Soft designed the console and held the rights but it was manufactured and marketed by NEC?

[@rickylovesyou]

The TurboGrafx-16 or PC Engine was a collaborative effort between Hudson Soft, who created video game software, and NEC, a company which was dominant in the Japanese personal computer market with their PC-88 and PC-98 platforms. NEC lacked the vital experience in the video gaming industry so approached numerous video game studios for support. By pure coincidence, NEC's interest in entering the lucrative video game market coincided with Hudson's failed attempt to sell designs for then-advanced graphics chips to Nintendo. The two companies successfully joined together to then develop the new system. -wikipedia As for "ownership", that would be NEC. Hudsonsoft would however be classified as a first party developer back in those days.