New Tariffs could Destroy Gaming

[@vextakes]

it's already expensive enough

[@Digital-Echoo]

𝙘 𝙝 𝙞 𝙣 𝙖 (thats a weird state)

[@techwandoUS]

Lets make it more ...

[@paulboyce8537]

Motherboard Brands: Asus 65% made in China. Asrock 4% (parent company Asus) Gigabyte 14% made in China/Taiwan MSI 14% made in China/Taiwan Servers/CPU's INTEL is 70.9% and AMD 20.5%. Both are U.S companies. ARM 8.1% British company. CPU Market Share Q2 2023: INTEL 83% AMD 17% About year ago. "Intel has said that it is considering moving some of its manufacturing out of China to the United States to comply with U.S. government regulations." "Intel is laying off over 15,000 employees". This was done for security reasons. AMD frying in the socket, INTEL 13th and 14th fails, ASUS W680 motherboards (server) 100% fail, crashed the internet not so long ago and it was made to be a security update. This more than tariffs. It is war. Sorry to say that.

[@Ziyoblader]

Thing is it's going to take about five years before they can get another manufacturing plant like tsmc over here in America or anywhere in the world it's not easy just to plop in to another area I don't know if you guys remembered they were talking about having another plant in India and that was back in 2020

[@AbyNeon]

Maybe you are not aware, but You have a personal debt of over 53,000 US $ to pay mainly to 1 japan, then china, and so on to many other countries, and you have this debt because Your country exports to these other countries les than what You import form them. Complaining about tariffs is absurd in this scenario especially if you don't wanna end up like Venezuela or Argentina by the time u are 40 and beg to be able to afford toilet paper or lucky enough to find any. AND YES IT CAN VERY WELL HAPPEN any day any moment. tariffs help to export ur goods better to those country that are throwing down ur throat stuff all the time made by them while buying nothing u make in ur own country. Think of your country as a glass of water, with a hole in the bottom which is imports and a tap on the top which is exports... ur tap is filling ur glass way less than what you are leaking..at one point the water finishes... if you still don't understand who your country is, ill make it easy for you.. your personal bank account is one fraction of it like everyone else's. Oh yes but government has money.. well government money is the money you give to them form your bank account too. hope u get beyond 20% tariffs which any other country in the world imposes on their citizens EXCEPT THE USA.

[@jaideepsandhu9574]

american gamers are gonna suffer through same overpriced issues that other countries have. gaming anywhere other than America is expensive pretty much double.

[@adity-m2g]

Hopefully graphics card companies there are other countries too except USA

[@BastyTHz]

tripple here in thailand while computer part import tax is 0%

[@spacecookiez5045]

I can see companies setting up production in other nations such as Taiwan or India

[@pdg_strix2447]

Welcome to brazil

[@R3TR0J4N]

@@jaideepsandhu9574 might even hit AAA studios since they had to optimize their broke games. While indie and AA casually doesnt need high end system 🤔

[@Torbulous]

Aah yes. My long history of violent tenancies which was rooted in all the hours spent in... *checks notes* ...Stardew Valley.

[@Torbulous]

disclaimer, I don't actually play Stardew Valley. Just thought it'd make for a funny comment. I do however play various games with guns that seem to have had no effect on my physical reactions with others. In other words, I do not hurt people.

[@TheMallachiv]

Ah yes, and the violent masterpiece *checks notes ……slime rancher

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Alright sherlock ​@@Torbulous

[@Deus_wukong1468]

Cant wait to be labeled as a serial killer for playing farming simulator

[@adri745k]

Ah yes now i'm an arsonist because i play *Satisfactory.* hmmmmmmmm

[@realevermore]

Can't kill what's already dead

[@Epic3032]

Exactly, DEI and far leftist, BlackRock and Vanguard destroyed both Hollywood and GAMING.

[@UltraVegito-GodKiller-1995]

This comment is giving a... 🔥🔥 Menacing Aura 🔥🔥

[@solk.posner7201]

@@Epic3032 Pretty weak excuses from the real culprits: Private equity and greedy corps. Some examples such as ubisoft and EA ruined their games with their greed. The bad story-telling and "woke" stuff are just symptoms of it..

[@maxdamage4919]

@@Epic3032 Left and Right is the same, BlackRock, vanguard, Hollywood, Warner, MGM are HEBREW

[@bignose1752]

@@Epic3032 How are "DEI" and "far leftists" responsible for this? It all boils down to greed. The companies only push "woke" stuff because top executives and investors who do not play games think that means the game will reach a wider audience, and thus be more profitable. Even though we know this not to be true, its what the people at the top think will make them more money. And as for "DEI", do you just think minorities are worse at making games? what?

[@willianperes2697]

Here in Brazil we already have taxes to import stuff that is more than 50$ that are as high as 60% of the product's value (and this is just the base import tax, there are others). Believe me, you will not like this... 😢

[@guilhermeam9990]

If you consider all the taxes we have here, it actually is 92% for every product higher than $50

[@joshw8298]

It’s honestly better to buy a laptop in another country customise it then throw away the box lol

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

@@joshw8298 Hahaha, reminds me of old times in Eastern Europe before 1989: tourist smuggling 😂

[@buckbreaker5185]

We will like it when manufacturing returns to the US

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

@ Standing on one until it happens 😁

[@bes12000]

TSMC they make 90% of all chips globally, they said they aren't concerned about Tarrifs and it won't change anything, because they consider themselves very valuable to the USA, the same statement was made by a government official in Taiwan .

[@jiggerypokery2962]

TSMC doesn't pay the tarrifs. Nvidia and AMD pay the tariffs. It's up to them to eat or pass the cost.

[@JVCFever0]

Sorry, in an investor's call

[@Evan-i4e]

It's what so annoying about this the news has been dooming people who don't know what they're talking about. You will pay very little tax meaning you will have way more money so tariff cost are offset by large margins, most of the companies are not in China, it will create local jobs and finally we avoided a video game burning with bridge and it won't know be illegal to own a game bridge decided was bad like call of duty warzone.

[@jimgorlett4269]

​@@Evan-i4ecope

[@Cptraktorn]

People are just doing the anti trump alarmism bit.

[@TAG_Underground]

Americans will get the European price treatment 😅

[@razorgarf]

Or Elon will install factories with robots and be over, then it'll be about who owns the resources

[@damara2268]

@@razorgarf surely he can do that in 4 years lmao

[@ChiyoBebe.]

@@damara2268Make that 4 years elon time and it will be done in 20+ years

[@makuru.42]

The prices are not that bad in the EU because the taxes are almost always counted in to the product.

[@ronanvandevyver9843]

Maybe one day we'll get to see the Europeans get the South African price treatment lol. Or God forbid the South American price treatment

[@s-nooze]

China isn't going to pay the tariffs, we are.

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

They don’t get this

[@amerlock2169]

Then don't buy it, it's just a hobby after all. You don't need it to live.

[@cxngo8124]

@@amerlock2169 its not just tech stuff. It everything

[@amerlock2169]

​​@@cxngo8124Everything that is not important to live. Stop over consuming. Stop buying overpriced useless stuff it's just enabling companies to do bad pricing.

[@sickmaduck1181]

@@amerlock2169 you don't need a lots of things to be alive but is that really living

[@ChristianKeithley-jc9mf]

Can't wait for the rtx 5090 to cost $3000+

[@adity-m2g]

In my country RTX 4090 already costs more than $3000

[@amerlock2169]

Cost too much? Simple Don't buy control yourself, it's not important.

[@asdf30111]

@@amerlock2169 Or we, but I have little hope for it, vote at 2026 to shut down all the self destructive policies.

[@Animefan-sn1gu]

​@@amerlock2169are u going to say this when your day to day items start going up like not everything is made in USA

[@RedEverything]

A 5090 won’t save you from Unreal Engine 5 stutters.

[@cael_1303]

Very little is actually made 100% in America. If the Tariffs happen they are going to hurt across the board. I still say if because I hope the best that comes out of this is it being a negotiating tactic.

[@ludwigvanbeethoven8164]

Yeah. He wants them to build factories in America. China is building plants in Mexico to directly compete with US workers and companies. It’s necessary, unfortunately.

[@charlesnix8314]

Because America went from a country of producers to a country of consumers.

[@glorillafan]

@@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 If he cared about American manufacturing he wouldn't be opposed to joe biden's chips act which is bringing semiconductor manufacturing jobs to the US and making us and our allies less reliant on taiwan's tsmc. The fact that he failed to bring back manufacturing during his first term and he is opposed to the NLRB and Lina Khan's FTC is proof enough he's bullshitting and doesn't care about working class people.

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

@@charlesnix8314 A good education would help that consumption is not to purpose of life. And it also helps not to fall for for propaganda and populism. But I think the country is already missed this opportunity and seems to be doomed long-term.

[@asdf30111]

@@ludwigvanbeethoven8164 If you want that to work, you need to Tariff the stuff you can make with in the near future not everything at once other wise your just creating self trade sanctions.

[@Mr.RMartinez]

Wishing you folks luck with this subject. Here in Brazil, things are insane with taxes on tech products. The last elected government decided to charge a 25% tax on every product that comes to Brazil under $50, which was already ridiculously expensive. But after a few months, they increased it to 50% to 'help the internal market' (which doesn’t really exist, since the vast majority of products come from China and other countries). As for products above $50? Well... there's a 97% tax. Yeah, it will cost you almost the same as buying two products. I know the USA has the best economy in the world, but I sincerely hope that you folks don’t have to go through something similar, even if it’s 'only' a 20% tax.

[@templarkid.]

Do the "L" 🥲

[@Amazing-o3q]

eu amo o argumento de ajudar o mercado interno quando praticamente todas as empresas brasileiras de tecnologia só compram componentes chineses e montam aqui, aí depois dão um nome e dizem que é produto brasileiro. Surreal. Fora o incrível varejo brasileiro que 80% do que vende é comprado lá fora e vendido mais caro aqui. minar a concorrência internacional sem forçar o mercado interno a se tornar competitivo é receita pra desastre, nossa "indústria" automotiva é um dos maiores exemplos disso.

[@ignacio6454]

When are you going to "delete" Lula? All talk and no game.

[@Amazing-o3q]

@@ignacio6454 ?????????

[@HankBaxter]

What's Brazil's relationship with China like?

[@zestiny_]

Tldr buy any electronic before tariffs cause everything to be 20-60% higher. Its also important to know that companies are going to use this to increase prices above the amount they're paying under the guise of tariffs. I've been putting off buying another PC, but I'm pretty much forced to buy one come Cyber Monday

[@igortube]

A trick is to import millions of CPU/GPU's, consumer electronics that are guaranteed to sell, into the USA before the tariffs, sitting in warehouses. Then raise the prices and blame Trump whilst not actually have paid taxes because the products were already in the country. 🤣😉

[@edgargarcia6042]

Yup i had put off buying pc parts for a while since i was saving to buy a new phone but recently had to start again after hearing tariffs were going to happen. I already had a 7900x cpu laying around from when i started buying parts the only other major expense i have to deal with is a gpu. Hopefully its not a day 1 thing to have more time to get pc parts before the tariffs are implemented. Hope you get your parts for your pc before you are affected.

[@hochhaul]

Biden put a 25% tariff on Chinese semiconductors early on in his presidency and increased it to 50% in May of this year. Have we seen prices increase 50%?

[@damara2268]

Yeah thats for sure. 30% tariff comes -> company will increase consumer prices by 40-50%

[@damara2268]

@@igortube companies are already doing that lol

[@_boux]

Now you know how australians and canadians feel. Maybe this will force game devs to finally focus on optimization

[@SeasoningTheObese]

Gamers will pay the extra tax + tip + day -7 deluxe edition for $300, play it in sub 30 fps on their 5060 ti (10gb) using dlss performance and frame gen, and that's just the way it is.

[@0x8badbeef]

This works in the favor of not making games for future hardware. Devs better make plans for making games for hardware we have.

[@TwoBs]

Yea, it should have always been the focus. Instead, the modern landscape of gaming is having this constant push to do MORE MORE MORE while most aren’t even able to obtain the first MORE is a terrible business move that keeps going right over their heads. Costs keep going up for newer hardware, and on average, most can only afford to get stuff released a few years back, but even with just the hardware only being a few years old, it _still_ can’t keep up with the slop being pushed out now because it’s all going at such a fast pace to do more and more and more, pushing limits to then complain why most consumers aren’t purchasing the products upon release or why they’re getting scathing negative reviews when they’re only focusing on putting out games with the newest hardware on the market as the sole priority with the rest being a mere afterthought to _maybe_ fix later when it releases (or to just do the bare minimum and let modding communities fix the rest for them). On this channel’s last video about Stalker 2 being so demanding and poorly optimized on release, I kept reading comments from someone that kept trying to justify devs making poorly optimized games that are extremely demanding on even top of the line new hardware because it “incentivizes companies to make better GPUs and CPUs” and that trying to “force” devs to make games that the hardware the average consumer on the market has instead of making every new game _needing_ a brand new several thousand dollar GPU to run somewhat decent is just “holding the devs back”. It’s incredibly ackbasswards.

[@gruntaxeman3740]

@@TwoBs Most of time, best solution for customer is to make it work current, and previous platform. Previous decade also was good idea that everything works on machines that were sold in past 4 years. Today it is at least everything made in this decade and gradually increase it to 6 years. Couple of years it makes sense to take care that everything works on devices made in past 10 years. Also with current and previous platform (like operating system, console generation) covers a lot. Hardware limits less than people understand.

[@iLegionaire3755]

Except that is asking game developers, practically demanding they curb innovation or pushing the envelope forward by making products that need future hardware for the optimal experience, in an age of stifled innovation and creative maladaptive manipulation (lootboxes and microtransactions).

[@0x8badbeef]

@@iLegionaire3755 I'm fine with last gen graphics. The current gen should only provide better performance as in frame rate. That said, I don't want innovation in graphics. I want innovation in content. "I rather game than gaze."

[@gruntaxeman3740]

@@iLegionaire3755 I haven't seen innovation for while. Last time perhaps Rain World.

[@Mo_Moji]

I'm from Ecuador, and here a past president made virtually anything that comes from the outside world (which for us is almost everything because 3rd world tech) is going to cost upwards of 40% more than what it originally would have cost, so we have basic, plain T-shirts for $70 a pop (just to give an example), and on top of that, minimum salary is $440 a month. :/ Hope it doesn't happen in the US.

[@Mr.RMartinez]

Omg that is so sad, similar situation here in brazil too 💔

[@adity-m2g]

In India for some weird reason computer parts are put under 'luxury' category the same category in which BMW Mercedes Rolex comes and due to this government charges extra tax it's funny how at one side government is pushing digitalization and Ai stuff along with game development but isn't removing this extra luxury tax which is main reason for more prices

[@ramanchaudhary2518]

@@adity-m2gthey want domestic chip manufacturing to grow , which is why apple opened up some fabs in india to bypass these taxes

[@dwiggzmasterflex]

The Biden admin put like 80 billion into US chip manufacturing thru the CHIPS act, Donald is not a fan though so that will probably get dismantled.

[@HankBaxter]

What's Ecuador's relationship with China like?

[@AdrenResi]

to be fair we do need a gaming crash with microtransactions and game prices being ridiculous

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

This gaming crash would be driven by consumers. However until clueless kids pay a fortune for in-game cosmetics we have no hope.

[@iLegionaire3755]

The whales will always keep buying it’s not gonna happen.

[@lilshawty2605]

@@iLegionaire3755sad.

[@cyberpuma99]

hopefully this doesn't happen im gonna try and upgrade by 5700xt to a 7800xt after the 50 series releases lmao

[@conductingintomfoolery9163]

Same

[@bloom-mania]

i just got a 7800xt very happy

[@hochhaul]

Biden put a 25% tariff on semiconductors from China years ago and increased it to 50% in May of this year. Have prices increased at a rate higher than inflation?

[@lordlopikong6940]

Why upgrade? What can you even play lmao? No games are even worth that upgrade.

[@cyberpuma99]

@ 1080 to 1440

[@detroit_bum5966]

I just built a new rig earlier than I wanted, just to avoid possible tariff price hikes.

[@POLARTTYRTM]

two videos from Daddy Vex in a single day? im all for it

[@evaone4286]

Daddy vex? Christ

[@VinderUwUQueen]

OwO Oh My...

[@surfingkoala35]

The real kicker is when you look on the back of the box and you see made in China. This is basically where the product was "assembled". Ie. even made in China goods are going to have some parts (chips, wafers, diodes) sourced from other manufacturers, and other countries. The Chinese imports are going to become more expensive and what are the Good Old US companies going to do? They are going to inflate their own prices to have price parity with the imports. Ie. US Tarrifs equals US consumers paying more.

[@Zortec]

To be fair Gaming is already dead. It might be better we crush the gaming industry and build it back from the ground up.

[@wills.5762]

Been thinking the same tbh. Building a new rig now, but I think it will be my last the way the gaming industries been going

[@hugosdrawing2871]

"From the ground up" [Forza Motorsport flashbacks]

[@pietkroon6548]

ja lets Reboot C.o.D WW 1

[@lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

you guys are pussies

[@TralfamadorianAgent]

What a lot of people don't get is that it raises prices even if manufacturing moves to the US (which would take years). It's more expensive to manufacture in the US. Trump's tax hikes aren't going to change that. And it's going to drive prices far higher than 20%. Corporations are going to hide their price gouging behind tariffs.

[@kpg10]

Hence why manufacturing might move to other cheap countries like thaiwan and vietnam or whatever because 20% is better than 60-100%.

[@anreoil]

On a positive note: you'll play Fallout 5 sooner than you think, and with unbelievable immersion level.

[@ricardo762]

Games are currently in a state of decline and show no signs of improvement.

[@raven80wolfx2]

You want it to improve only buy games that you enjoy. It's amazing how that works. That capitalism idea is crazy when people look for other options.

[@niamhleeson3522]

There are a lot of good games out there actually. Just gotta dig for em

[@triadwarfare]

Maybe it's better that way. Let's go back to the good old days when games were simple and didn't need hundred million dollar budgets.

[@hochhaul]

@@raven80wolfx2 It's getting more difficult to find games that haven't had trans/LGBTQ propaganda needlessly forced into the story and dialogue.

[@raven80wolfx2]

@hochhaul Well play older games or only support the games you believe in. It's that simple. This era is dying and sales show it. We can't help what has happened. We can only help what is happening in the future. Feedback is important for companies.

[@RYZEN-4070-TI-SUPER-OC]

Thank god I just bought a fucking 4080 super, like 2 days ago

[@RobloxianX]

50% more FPS with a 50% higher MSRP is not a generational uplift. The only good GPU of this generation I can think of is going to be the RX 8800 XT.

[@FlippyMcGiantDad]

People thinking it will simply cause American companies to manufacture locally, it's not that simple. You can't just find factories ready to go, you have to build them, and they're not like Starcraft where you tell an SCV to build here or there in 40 seconds. It will take to build, time to hire locally, money to do those two things as well. R&D for new products assuming you aren't just cloning the current nearly outdated crop (imagine selling a 4060 equivalent in 2027). I don't think many people understand how complex a process it is to get something like this running (choosing a location, figuring out how to get things shipped, getting permissions, etc), considering you could just shrug your shoulders and say "oh too bad, looks like tariffs are going to increase prices" and bump up whatever they already have coming from overseas. At the end of the day the company probably won't lose money doing that if they just charge us a little more. Would a company for profit really take the gamble? What Trump reverses course mid way through his term, says that's good enough? That factory is still a year away and you wasted money for nothing. If you win the gamble, when will the tariffs be relaxed? When the economy recovers, does the government keep the measures in place? How long will they last? Long enough for the average consumer to buy maybe 2 flagship items from your locally made boutique factory?

[@CurtOntheRadio]

And why would TSC etc hand over all their tech and processes? NV only licence the tech and get chips made for them - they can't make chips themselves and they don't own that tech themselves. USA is going to steal it?

[@lordlopikong6940]

Alot of people in this comment section never have been part nor tried a management position before. So they probably can only relate on the little small and narrow jobs that they have completely unaware on how amazing the controls and organization structure thier company has. They'll never realized that most office jobs are just human industrial conveyor belt

[@arkgaharandan5881]

yeah tariffs alone isnt enough you gotta give incentives, cut taxes and you need time to build all of that.

[@GarrettTobyC13]

​@@arkgaharandan5881yeah but trump wants to cut up the CHIPS act so good luck with that. We tried that under Biden and it wasn't good enough for Trump's simple brain.

[@helgisigurd]

Add to that the skilled labor that is required and everyone should see that while moving manufacturing back can have many benefits, it will take a long time. Also manufacturing in the US will be more expensive resulting in higher prices which can be OK as long as average purchasing power goes up as well by the same amount or more. In the 90's and early 2000's I worked for American companies selling manufacturing equipment the the semiconductor industry. My early business trips were to S.Korea, Japan and Singapore, and then I started travelling more and more to Taiwan as factories moved there for the cheaper labor. My last few years I travelled mostly to China because that is where the factories were moved too.

[@HedgehogY2K]

Nothing we buy here is from here. I buy a Ryzen 2600E from China and that ends up being the thing that works instead of an apparently busted A12 9800. Now I have an RX 6400 taking up the only PCIe slot I needed for capture. To top it off, the motherboard doesn't seem to detect my M.2_2 to PCIe adapter. It keeps saying 16X GPU instead of 8x. How do I get the X470-I to detect and utilize the adapter with a capture card attached to it?

[@Epic3032]

I don't think Trump would do that. I'm Australian but Tarrifs will affect us Aussies though...computer hardware prices will skyrocket here.

[@UncannySense]

a 9800x3d is $830 AUD and a 4090 is $3300AUD...Prices are already cooked. If anything USA tariffs might make tech cheaper in Australia.

[@Epic3032]

@@UncannySense so does this mean, our dollar will rise instead of falling? Is that how it works? because majority of the stuff we buy here are imported.

[@paulboyce8537]

U.S tariff doesn't affect Australia. We are not U.S. But we have the idiot Albanese that parrots and follows whatever U.S does having no idea of economics. We have a very strong trade with China where we export raw materials. Albanese will be stupid to destroy this trade.

[@UncannySense]

@@Epic3032 China will likely prioritise tech exports to other countries that don't have the same tariffs as the USA...So we (australians) will see more product /oversupply which should lower prices domestically. We already of GST on imports but no tariffs on tech...And our Government is to cowardly to anything against China...Will the USA try to strongarm the rest of the Western Countries to join the Tariffs...probably not. I'm sure the global corporations aren't to happy about it, which is a good thing.

[@LLJVBass]

He keeps saying it and, both because he's infamous for retaliation against anyone that goes against his will AND the Republicans have full control of congress, this is almost certainly going to happen The only way it doesn't is if someone appeals to his narcissism and convinces him that his rallies would significantly shrink or something dumb like that. People don't get that this guy cares about no one but himself

[@AbysmalEnd]

It's economics, Trump is going to make things really difficult for not just tech but everything else if he gets his way on most of his ignorant ideas.

[@IceNinja2007]

Lmao, your TDS is showing

[@kokaboba]

@@IceNinja2007 Are you just like, a bot that's designed to protect your political god? You're 17 and this is how you're spending your life?

[@amerlock2169]

​@@kokabobaAnd that how you are spending yours. Having the orange man living rent free inside your head.😂😂😂 clown fr

[@kokaboba]

@@amerlock2169 The orange man living rent free in my head? Hmm.. Well, he is the president that affects our domestic policy Silly you! If you didn't know that you can now quit your irrelevant shitposting! Yay!!! 😁

[@AbysmalEnd]

@IceNinja2007 No, it's called a degree in marketing and economics. Try reading a book instead of writing off everything you don't believe in and being an internet sycophant for a dude who doesn't know your name or care about you.

[@internisus]

Politics aren't a game. They lead to policies which affect people's lives. We're lucky if this is all we have to worry about from this election, but many others are not.

[@FOF275]

If Trump's tariffs drastically increase the price of basically everything imported then he'd probably get a lot of backlash since people voted for the economy to improve

[@henson2k]

those people will get the opposite

[@Lockwood360]

Its a long term goal, tarrifs will increase prices initially but bring back US economical power in the long run by encouraging our own manufacturing.

[@lDKJB]

​@@Lockwood360True, but that's not happening in Trump's term these next few years

[@IceNinja2007]

​@@lDKJB Source: Trust me bro.

[@RowsieFox]

@@Lockwood360 and prices will remain extremely high while our economy shrinks. Its an econ 101 principle that trade mathematically improves total economic output. Its called competitive advantage.

[@BastyTHz]

50% is fine compare to 300% sell price here while tax here is 0%

[@holynightofserenitea]

Never works out that way, with subsidies and demand recession, you could see them stop innovating on chips altogether because profit margins are so strained.

[@kerekes01]

Thought I was going crazy but the Vampire Survivors music IS coming from the video lmao, good stuff

[@POLARTTYRTM]

ah yes, americans having a taste of what is it like to buy anything in latin america, taxed plus taxes plus making some items up to 5x more expensive than their msrp

[@interrobangings]

I'm friends with an Argentinian, the prices he has to pay for stuff is absolutely mindblowing.

[@POLARTTYRTM]

​@@interrobangings and all that while most of the time earning 260 or less per month. it's just not fair

[@ոakedsquirtle]

I spent a lot of money on my first pc but now im grateful because i did it before the tariffs.

[@BleedingMem0ry]

Yeah. They might finally get a taste of what it's like to pay multiple times more for something that is not worth even remotely close to that. Then again, their income can still cover it, unlike ours. Have to revisit your videos again!

[@peterrj1973]

@@interrobangings luckily its going down every month

[@lagauchy9310]

All these videos are quality perfection I don’t know how the channel is not 500k I hope u continue making visions like that

[@Wkaelx]

Welcome to brazil, we are living a similar situation with the "Love tax".

[@screenplayergaminginall]

Fun fact: even despite some of the products are being made in that country it doesn't necessarily mean it's cheeper there. For example, some chips are being manifacured in Malaysia but gpu,cpu, hell even the freaking pc cases are expensive here.

[@paulsonsons425]

It's a game to keep you poor. I live in Quebec. It produces hydro electricity, so much it sells extra power to New York. You would think Quebecers get some kind of deal right.. Nope they keep rising prices and adding all kinds of taXES AND EXTRAS.

[@simonsays3582]

Says someone who has the lowest cost of computer parts on the planet...

[@AAjax]

The sky is falling!

[@BearZA_91]

Well, my country tends to slap pretty high tariffs on things, I remember years ago, a GPU cost about 1/3 less in the UK, my dad went over on a business trip so he got me one. A friend wanted to import a monitor, the customs duty was more than the monitor itself... The Americans will start feeling like a large portion of the rest of the world.

[@HelloTher1313]

Would have been nice if all these gaming channels said something before the election

[@igortube]

still some time to buy things before the tariffs are implemented (mid-late next year earliest) at least.

[@HelloTher1313]

@igortube I guess so, but the real concern is more essential goods, like tools, ingredients, etc. For this policy to work the government would have to help set up US manufacturing beforehand, and since this is probably just a big shift of taxes to poorer people from the wealthy, that's not going to happen even afterwards

[@nvire]

going off the replies across this video, channels like these avoid political topics on purpose cause people can't behave themselves lol

[@HelloTher1313]

@@nvire not a good excuse given the situation :/ It's like the analogy of not saving a someone from drowning in a pool because you didn't want to get wet

[@ochitokes]

If you're a PC gamer that votes for Trump you deserve a 3050 6 GB for $350

[@AluminumElephant]

Love the stalker music in the background. With new tariffs we will all be feeling like we're getting ripped off by Sidorovich. May the zone 2 be worthy of wandering one day soon.

[@HellGatyr]

good, asian dev is better anyway

[@dareczek2974]

Hi Vex, great video! Could you share what type or model of keyboard you're using? It looks awesome! 13:16

[@JeremyKingTech]

10:50 US could manufacture these products but it wouldn't result in avoiding tarrifs because importing all of the raw materials that aren't produced in the US would also result in being tarriffed. There's no avoiding being taxed. Life is about to get a whole lot more expensive for a lot of people that are already living paycheck to paycheck.

[@JeremyKingTech]

11:40 exactly. It's going to be an interesting 4 years!

[@igortube]

Punitive taxes on the raw materials to incentivize local manufacturing, would mean tarrifs never have worked to incentivize such local manufacturing because the end user prices were just as expensive with tariffs.

[@henryt9731]

Thing is, labour costs differential is definitely more than the 20% tariff, so there’s literally no incentive to have things made in the US.

[@Gamez4eveR]

6:35 nah, the only way countries the imports from whom end up "paying" those tariffs is by less sales made. They don't actually pay the tariffs, they potentially earn less money because of them.

[@nathankellogg2640]

I mean all of his economic solutions aren't designed to benefit people who work a 9-5 they're designed to benefit the people who own those jobs and makes those products.

[@shalashaska9946]

Not exactly true but even if it was, the stuff that benefits those people will almost always benefit the workers in the long run.

[@GameBoyDame]

​@shalashaska9946 If youre refrering to trickle down economics its been proven for decades to not work properly.

[@shalashaska9946]

@@GameBoyDame Proven by whome? Not sure where you came up with that but that economic style is the reason fewer people are in poverty now than ever before in history.

[@GameBoyDame]

@@shalashaska9946 Look at how Regan wrecked the economy then come and talk to me. I’m not about to do 40 years worth of research for you. He started the whole “trickle down” nonsense.

[@GameBoyDame]

@@shalashaska9946 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXSvgWaan85-rK8si=WlnRhi9-2ynckWEd

[@heads49]

Don't forget, Mike Johnson, the current Speaker of the House, has stated that he wants to repeal the CHIPS act, so much of the current fab construction in the US might stop.

[@bill2731]

I paid over $300 in income tax last paycheck. Donald Trump said that he wanted to replace income tax with tariffs (a fact that is convenienly obfuscated in the news). The price increase from tariffs only negatively affects stuff imported from China, but positively benefits and promotes products MADE IN AMERICA. So, if a gpu like a 4060 was $300 and increased to $450 (im not an economist, but the thumbnail says +50%) and i only bought American for the rest of that paycheck (which is reasonable if you are buying groceries and not over processed foods or gadgets every paycheck). I saved $150 due to this change, which is a net improvement. Overall, this will improve sales of US made goods which would mean that money gets to circle in the US economy, instead of paying Chinese employees and a Chinese company that will not go back into the US because everything is made in China. Chinese workers work what's called 9-9-6, which stands for; work from 9am until 9pm, 6 days a week, plus mandatory overtime. There is evidence that China uses forced labor on the Uyghur's and Turkic's, and we still buy most of our stuff from China. We need more stuff made in America and tariffs would definitely incentivise this while giving America extra bargaining power (such as saying "we will lower your tariffs if you do x, or increase them if you do z") Overall, im no economist. But people saying "this will ruin the economy" or "make this x thing unaffordable anymore" is a liberal talking point and not representing the wider picture. I voted for this and so did over half of this country and nobody knows deals and the economy quite like Trump. So i say let him cook.

[@rudy1999]

Bullshit, he already was president in 2016 and his economy was shit lol

[@sSteppingStones]

real, i wish my government would do a similar thing

[@10secondsrule]

Wait and see how wrong you are.

[@elibolton6235]

Haven’t took the time to read that whole thing. That said, as a student studying economics I can say that tariffs don’t raise money. The whole point of a tariff is to not pay it. Therefore they won’t bring in much money. If income taxes got replaced by this, it’d involve dystopian levels of debt. Some economists said these plans would increase debt from $25T to $35T in only 10 years. Also moving manufacturing back to the U.S isn’t necessarily a good thing. Factory jobs might help the uneducated. Dirty, low skill jobs are what make mexico and china more “poor” than the U.S. The U.S moving from a tertiary, service-based economy to a secondary manufacturing-based economy would be a backsliding of development.

[@TheBottleneckedGamer]

300$? that’s insanely low, in the uk I pay over 1000£ tax a month (1200+ USD) and that’s before the stealth taxes like NI etc. whaaaaaaaat

[@armandomartinez2699]

Tariffs are import taxes. The importer pays the tax upfront. The country exporting gets there money regardless. No tax on them. American companies will pay the tariff, and the Chinese company gets there money regardless.

[@Mystic_Chizu]

I think most countries have tariffs on tech though. Thats pretty much the main reason why 3060s and 4060s sell like hotcakes even though they're the "worst value for money"

[@g0nz0theGreat]

No, mid range cards sell high because nobody has enough disposable income and also, there's not enough competition to start a price war. Australia doesn't have tariffs on this stuff

[@takehirolol5962]

Lower salaries than Developed countries is another reason the 60 GPUs sell like hotcakes...

[@fransindongo3207]

Mystic is right...I live in Namibia, where PC Parts are expensive... The only thing that was affordable to my mom was a 75 watt 4060 laptop that I use for school & gaming...as everything else above it, is expensive...

[@davinhunt7558]

in the long term the strat will have better monetary outcomes. I think its a bummer prices may increase here in the US for PC part users but people everywhere else outside of the US has had these similarly high prices since forever

[@toufusoup]

Some of my pals rushed to the nearest Microcenter to pick up a 9800X3D and flocked to the used market to pick up some GPUs like 4080 Supers and 7900GREs. They were waiting to upgrade for a while but decided to pull the trigger with the incoming garbage with the tariffs and whatnot. I'm chilling with my 13700 and 4070 but I'm glad my pals finally ditched their 1st-Gen Ryzens and 9th Gen Intels before shit hits the fan.

[@Joshua_Uwadiae]

When did Trump say he wanted to ban video games

[@rev696]

Malaysia, state filled with ONLY American GPU manufacturer's, we're lucky to have such an amazing state 🦅🦅🦅

[@Arejen03]

at this point USA should just claim Malaysia as their state

[@drumyogi9281]

Kuala Lumpur would be my expat city of choice but it is nearly impossible to become a citizen if need be.

[@eleongo]

@@Arejen03 Ah so he's juz being sarcastic by saying Malaysia is a US owned state which isnt, its an independent country

[@googlefish80]

Gaming has already become 3xpensive with prices going up and games asking for your kidney to run them, now you're going to $2,000 for a single component of a computer.

[@icemuckbanggg]

1:55 Was trump a businessman before the 1st bankruptcy or after the 4th bankruptcy? 🤔

[@IceNinja2007]

Tell me you don't understand economics without telling me you don't understand economics. 🤷

[@RowsieFox]

yeah hes a complete fraud. If he had put the money he got from his father into the S&P 500 he would have significantly more money now. The apprentice showrunners have come out and formally apologized because they wrote his character as if he was a savvy businessman, even though he absolutely isnt one lmao

[@aviatedviewssound4798]

​@@IceNinja2007you must know a lot about bankruptcy.

[@thegreenbolt2819]

@@IceNinja2007 ??? If you knew economics, then you would know tariffs are quite literally the worst thing right now since there are no infrastructure and factories for chips built yet in the U.S. Quite literally implementing those tariffs will do nothing but reduce consumer surplus and produce a deadweight loss, overall just hurts both the consumers and businesses that rely on them. Producers won't gain anything either as there is no chips being made domestically. How about you actually take an economics class or at least a microeconomics class before you start saying things you clearly don't understand.

[@hochhaul]

@@RowsieFox Sounds like a lot of BS from weak libs in the entertainment industry that wanted to join in on defaming his character. Fraud? He's living in Mar-A-Lago and owns skyscrapers all around the world. You're sitting in your mom's basement drawing Sonichu cartoons.

[@massimonigro72]

Just to clarify. A tarrif is a tax that the importer pays when bringing in products. So if there is a tarrif on Chinese products, China doesn't pay anything more, the importer pays the tax and ultimately will get passed onto the consumer. Ultimately same message... Product cost increasing.

[@KnightofAges]

You DID notice that Biden placed a 25% tariff on Chinese products at the start of his term, and finalized raising in September even MORE of them - the one on electrical vehicles went up to 100%, the one on solar cells to 50%, a 25% one on electrical vehicle batteries, critical minerals, steel, aluminum, face masks, etc. Biden's Trade Representative Katherine Tai said then that the “tariff increases will target the harmful policies and practices of the People’s Republic of China that continue to impact American workers and businesses". But I guess all Harris voters got amnesia. And is disgusting seeing here how so many are willing to just hand over manufacturing to the CCP just so they can MAYBE pay less for a top of the line GPU that is already massively overpriced and that odds are, they don't need because they have a 4090 already.

[@Betonoszlop]

If american factory workers willing to work 6x12 hours per week for dirt, then manufacturers will move back to America. My guess? This won't happen.

[@TkoddaLee]

😂😂😂 haven’t u see there ain’t no job left anymore ppl getting layoff job report last month was only 12000 job added

[@rudysmith1552]

I have already done that still couldn’t pay rent. Welcome to the USA. Where we play pretend of the first world nation.

[@Betonoszlop]

@@rudysmith1552 Sorry to hear that. People of the free world deserves more.

[@budsatawny]

The tariff's will only be applied to things that are already made here if we don't make it here it won't be taxed. As we don't make all these things, they won't be taxed. They won't be putting a tariff on all products.

[@emptyfueltank]

You are right! We foreigners still live in trees and anything the village elder shaman says is the law! We don't have hundreds of parliament members who vote and decide in each country! If a person is dumb it's not because he's a foreigner, they don't know how politics work in their country either.

[@jiggerypokery2962]

$700 5060. Tariffs are able to be set without congresional approval. Tariffs are paid for by the importer not the exporter and typically passed on to the consumer.

[@hochhaul]

The Biden administration has had a 25% tariff on Chinese semiconductors since the beginning of his term. In fact, he increased it to 50% in May 2024. Have prices increased 25 to 50%?

[@CougnoustucH]

In France, they tarif us. 20% on every product, hardware or not 😭

[@jclosed2516]

Yes, but in return we have a lot of things, like free (or very inexpensive) health care for instance. I don't like 20% either, but I prefer that to being in debt for my life for a simple surgery or something...

[@Razor2048]

President Trump actually used countries like France and a number of others as an example of what not to do with tariffs, as he is against the idea of taxing imports for products which the country does not make. Due to the control the executive branch has on tariffs, he instead focused on it as a way to improve the US's role in global trade. For example, most US made goods do not get exported due to extremely high tariffs on them. For example, a number of countries have 50-100% tariffs on US made cars. Part of building up manufacturing, is to also provide US businesses with opportunity to export goods. This is why a common example given by many who looked at the nuance, is one of explaining that Japan would quickly drop their 100% import tax on US made card if we implemented a reciprocal tariff on vehicle imports from their country. Same with many European countries that have similar high taxes on US vehicles and various other goods. Many European and Asian countries have a unique set of tariffs that apply to the US but not other countries, thus singling out the US for even higher tariffs. Part of Trump's plan is to put a stop to tariffs like that, by leveraging the US's position as the number one consumer of many of the exports from those countries.

[@CougnoustucH]

@@jclosed2516 true true but I want cheap pc parts 😭

[@arkgaharandan5881]

thats eu in general bro.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

@@jclosed2516 nonsense its very expensive, is swear americans knowledge on europe is viewed through the lens of liberal media, like when those feminists protested texas abortions laws in france, not knowing that france has more "Extreme" abortion laws than texas. This is what its like being divorced from reality because you are brainwashed by the media.

[@jonathanstephens2466]

Vex I finally got to watch this vid. Another blister vid! You made some good points which makes me nervous. Glad I went ahead and bit the bullet and purchased my gaming machine now. Going to be bizzaro world for a while.

[@user78405]

also in 2016...prices in tech was getting out of control under trump term....scalpers , price raises , and more crpyto boom that result tech space getting more expensive ...

[@michaelthompson9798]

People around the world saying “wow the US is going to charge the same prices I pay for my pc parts” ahahaha 😅😂🤣

[@ChristopherYeeMon]

In case this is not obvious, Americans pay tariffs. It's a tax. The importer pays the foreign company for the stuff. They ship it. It gets to the port. It sits in customs until the importer in the US pays the tariff to the government at the port. The importer can't afford that hit in cost so they make their money back by raising the price that we the customer pays. And tariffs by themselves don't suddenly mean we can buy the alternative made locally because manufacturing is hard and takes a long time to get good at. You need to pair tariffs with subsidies to grow local manufacturing, or not do tariffs and just do subsidies. Which is what the CHIPs act that the Biden administration passed is. And we won't see the fruits of that labor for a long time. The start is when Intel and TSMC, who took some of that CHIPs act subsidy to build chip fabs, get their fabs up and running in the US. Think about what's going to happen if we did grow local manufacturing while tariffs are in place. The local manufacturer will charge a little bit less than the existing price which is tariffed, rather than charging the pre-tariffed price. So you have a price that is 160% of the real price and then the local manufacturer will charge 155% of the real price. So you still end up with higher prices

[@tomthomas3499]

There's a reason why we offload our manufacturing abroad, beside cheaper production cost, they also placed near the resources needed to build a chip, price hike it's guaranteed if this goes through, by how much, only time will tell, the thing about economic war is that it goes both ways..

[@lDKJB]

Bro you got a lot of political trolls in your comment section rn, this is exactly the reason why I hate politics.

[@Touma134]

It's not all bad I see several comments explaining themselves. I'm ignorant about economics to the highest degree but it's interesting to read.

[@paulsonsons425]

@@Touma134 most are clueless. Take it with a grain of salt

[@deucedeucerims]

@@Touma134if you’re ignorant about any topic don’t read KZbin comments to learn about it Open a book

[@AngelicRequiemX]

Bro, it's a political-based video, what do you expect? Stop being so sensitive.

[@thatsmean2929]

I care about politics when my community of friends is targeted by religious nuts that are infesting the GOP.

[@ericwatson4624]

Gamers are still a very small market segment when it comes to computer hardware. Taxes/tariffs like these will be for businesses that deal with. That will bleed down to everything that uses electronics, increasing prices across the board. It will also take years for the US to spin up foundries and factories to create silicon based electronics.

[@ReaperX7]

I think in the next four years we could see US based branches of CPU, GPU, RAM, and other component makers pop up catering to Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Micron, Samsung, SK Hynix, and others. Reason being, tariffs only target ready to market goods. This actually could be a good thing and reduce the cost of components significantly. Instead of paying an import fee that's tacked on to your computer hardware that you bought at Newegg or MicroCenter, you'd actually be only paying the assembly fee, which would be much less expensive in the long run. Tariffs never target raw materials or components of products so there is an option for a workaround which could benefit everyone.

[@pira707]

noooooo! you're not allowed to see the good side!!! only the bad side!!!!!!!!!

[@ReaperX7]

@pira707 Oh fudge... 😂

[@birdgang8890]

10:09 Microsoft is actually based out of Redmond, Washington. Which is about 30mins to an hour NE of Seattle.

[@rano12321]

Turmp's son is a bigger gamer than all of us, so he ain't banning gaming lol.

[@hochhaul]

Trump literally has hundreds of other far more important issues to worry about. It was the Democrat party that always used to threaten video gaming back in the 90's and early 2000's. Particularly when Mortal Kombat came out and again after the school pew pew event in Columbine.

[@christophermullins7163]

​@@hochhaulit's hilarious for anyone to suggest banning video games in 2024. Will. Never. Happen. Trump's kid would still play even if it got banned.. let's be real here.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

@@hochhaul its funny how a democrat jew named joe lieberman went after video games and everyone blamed "christian conservatives" for wanting to ban violent videogames.

[@markisaki979]

@@christophermullins7163 "Trump's kid would still play even if it got banned" That's some North Korea shit right there.

[@dwiggzmasterflex]

@@christophermullins7163 Donny gets what Donny wants and if lil grown man Barron wants to be playin fornite by golly he's gonna. Right when Baron was born his ditched he mom and banged a pornstar. Gosh, they just don't make em like him anymore.

[@00Cubic]

good thing i just bought all my graphics card literally today

[@Projekt1251Official]

Trump, you better not mess up the GPU and CPU prices or will suffer the wrath of gamers across the world.

[@CombatMedic1O]

The Government is artificially propping up the dollar and the economy. Any tariffs might have a initial suck, but in the medium to long run it will be better for the country. We've been spending and printing money we don't have. which has resulted in us paying for it in inflation, which is a tax/tariff if you wanna call it that. .

[@LLJVBass]

Too many dumb gamers are all aboard his train for morons

[@JustADudeGamer]

​@@CombatMedic1O He's kind of counteracting that new revenue if he passes more tax cuts for the rich not to mention the economic cost which reduces revenue. It's more likely if things don't go well short term he'll use more debt to boost the economy like they all do.

[@pf100andahalf]

@@CombatMedic1O "initial suck"? Prices will go sky high for years.

[@hochhaul]

We would have found out by now considering Biden put a 25% tariff on Chinese semiconductors at the beginning of his presidency and increased it to 50% in May of this year. People are so utterly clueless lmfao

[@RobinGething]

THE EXPENSE IS NOT IN THE CHIP ITSELF BUT THE POWER DELIVERY.

[@ZERARCHIVE2023]

you"ll own nothing and...

[@CkVega]

The tariffs will initially cause a price rise, but it’s designed to encourage companies to do at least some of the manufacturing in the US. Local manufacturing means more US citizens being paid, which in turn is supposed to improve the economy.

[@puppykitten4779]

Hot take, there are 7 billions people on earth, with only 400 millions of them living in America. It's not going to do as much encouragement as trump wish

[@CkVega]

@ compared to the average person around the world, US citizens are incredibly wealthy, there is an incentive to do what it takes to sell in that market.

[@Cruxis_Angel]

Realistically they’re just gonna pass the tariff on to the consumer. Some might build here but most won’t and it’ll take a long time for those that will anyways.

[@inkredebilchina9699]

tariffs might also backfire and result in new 2008 crisis as well.

[@hatchetman3662]

They will. And the implications are global.

[@hochhaul]

We would have found out by now considering Biden put a 25% tariff on Chinese semiconductors at the beginning of his presidency and increased it to 50% in May of this year. Thus far the only crisis has been the out of control inflation caused by the progressive's "Build Back Better" agenda and the UN's "Sustainable Development Goals 2030".

[@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity]

We're already headed in that direction tariffs or not.

[@strelok2036]

Do we have any data or information to show this? Or are you just speculating?

[@pira707]

@@hatchetman3662 printing trillions of dollars a year without any backing will also do that

[@elibolton6235]

I’m glad you talked about this. Most people in your space are too scared of disenfranchising the ancient gamers of last century. Tariffs have never worked for an economy, and never will. In fact when the U.S government tried to save us from the great depression with tariffs, it made it worse and turned it into a proper depression. They only benefit American millionaires and billionaires, and leave everyday people like us gamers paying for their success.

[@AMK281]

1:00 with all due respect but a lot of Americans don't even know how their own political system works 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dansmith1661]

Israel controls it.

[@mnd9166]

Vietnam and Malaysia are usually where they are put together, not really produced. Parts will usually be built in China or so, then essambled in those countries to avoid tariffs. Also TSMC already started building a foundry in USA and Intel already does, there was also a Nvidia deal that said they would use Intel Foundries.

[@HEAD123456]

All americans crying about tarrifs makes me laugh..We in EU already paying much more than you in US and rest of the world is same or worse than EU...So welcome in the club

[@SatoshiTajiri]

Problem with the EU is that their tariffs don't really aim china, they are just trying to squeeze that last penny from your pocket for budget purposes.

[@hatchetman3662]

If you thought inflation was bad, you might wanna sit down for this one. Its gonna be a doozy.

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

Chips Act was awesome. It HAS been bringing manufacturing back to the US in a meaningful way. Sadly it was signed into law by Biden so expect Trump will be seeking to undermine that as well.

[@TkoddaLee]

😂😂😂 chip act just cause inflation and didn’t achieve anything printed more money and factories haven’t even been built

[@RowsieFox]

@@TkoddaLee theyre literally being built as we speak, my guy

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

@@TkoddaLee lol tell us you have no idea what inflation is without telling us you have no idea what inflation is

[@TkoddaLee]

@@kenshirogenjuro873😂😂😂 u must be one of those price gauging ppl

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

@@TkoddaLee Trump has some shoes to sell you

[@thseed7]

trump had a Republican House and Senate in the first half of his 2016 term. They passed a 10 trillion dollar tax break for rich guys. Tariffs are paid by the importer. In theory, that would limit the amount of imports. In the real world, everything is made in China, so we have to pay more because it's the only place to get anything and the tariff the costs are passed down.

[@YungSock]

The amount of people in these comments who dont understand conversion rates is astonishing. 4090 is $2300 to $2600 in the US now. Which is the same price in Aus $3300 and UK $1900 for example. Learn money.

[@CidPsy]

And thus, one of the reasons I'm leaving the PC MR. It's expensive to get into it and now it's expensive to keep upgrading/keeping it up. And before any troll comes in with the broke card. It's not a matter of not being able to keep up with it, it's a matter if it's worth it for gaming alone for it's price and even more now on this landscape. Games are so unoptimized even beast rigs can't run the game properly. Devs seem so lazy and we reached the ceiling on what you can see on screen. Like it makes you wonder: What's the point?

[@domino4843]

A lot of armchair experts in this comment section.

[@BonusCrook]

Every time someone makes the excuse that inflation is driving up prices always remember that Nvidias profits continue to go up and that GPU prices have gone up much more than everything else.

[@bignose1752]

crazy how a lot of the comments acknowledge trumps policies will make pc hardware more expensive, but are glad because its "owning the woke" or something.

[@TkoddaLee]

No it just mean ur gullible for believing everything the media say and write in their articles..u should learn tat our legacy media do nothing but report propaganda now

[@amerlock2169]

You god damn right, let it crash.

[@lDKJB]

Fr,

[@doodledee3348]

Making life harder for themselves to own the libz, classic.

[@UMADl3RO5]

They also acknowledge he is a rapist and are okay with that. These people have the iq of a whole sack of rocks.

[@Integroabysal]

i mean , we here in EU are paying tariffs from the get go :) Some people might not know but Euro is about 10% more expensive than USD on average , so if you see that something that in US costs for instance 500 USD and in EU its 550Euros , it is not 10% more expensive it is actually close to 20%.

[@jaxzor]

are you guys stil buying woke garbage? the gaming industry is long dead.

[@rudy1999]

Most popular game are Minecraft, Counter Strike and Dota 2 lol.

[@Kyle-v6u]

If there is a large consumer base here, why not just open a factory in America to derail tariffs for that company? That’s what ford and GM did

[@k66iz39]

were so cooked

[@jonathanscherer8567]

I really look forward to the RX 8000 series. I know it's not going to compete with the top tier NVIDIA cards, but if they reach RX7900XTX level, I'll be happy. With better efficiency, improved RT, updated encoders and implementation of these things, it could be a really good series.

[@ikeelu259]

This panic over tarrifs is truly one of the dumbest things ive ever seen. The problem is inflation with is caused by government overspending. This is what causes the prices to rise lile we've seen.

[@lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

"this new information is not compatible with my current ideological disposition so instead of changing it here's something completely unrelated that is consistent with what I already believe"

[@2012knp]

Ironically, since Russian retailers are now sourcing PC components through parallel import directly from China and Korea, they might and up giving Russians a better deal despite all the sanctions 😂😂😂

[@BearfootBob]

We are looking down the barrel of WW3 and you’re worried your GPU might cost more

[@Daltonisntabot]

A GPU is definitely more important. Going to need to find something to do if nukes go off in your underground bunker.

[@amerlock2169]

​@@DaltonisntabotCalm down it's a hooby after all.

[@Daltonisntabot]

@@amerlock2169 What's a hooby?

[@GaboH-h7s]

Ridiculous comment haha

[@JustADudeGamer]

Or people are having woke hysteria while the future of our country and the world is at risk.

[@itsprod.472]

Get ready for 499$ 60 class cards and a 5-6% percent uplift lol. Those tariffs are scaring companies especially ones in China