🛑 AVOID This CPU / GPU Combo 🛑 PC Build Fails | Boost My Build S3 Finale

[@PCBuilderChannel]

▶Sponsor: Windows 10 Pro ($16):biitt.ly/kPBz6 What are you building? Upgrade recently? What games are you playing? Tell your story in a new comment below!

[@sjd6494]

Hey just a quick heads-up I bought a win 11 key from your sponsor and it didn't work. Emailed them and got no response..highly suspect your sponsor is pulling fraud..buyer beware..learned my lesson

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Mostly WoW 7800XT DX11 workaround, 12700KF doesn't raid as well. Played some movie scenes Avatar on the 7900XTX 12900KF, character creation screen looked cool but idk. Have a BG3 hankering. Have a 12400F 3060 12gb getting mated soon, I had to order another cooler misplaced my LGA1700 bracket. I finished my WoW fomo but they announced fated raids next season so I likely have to push raid achieve mounts before we get inconvenienced with that oh the raid (unfated) we need is only up 2 of 3 weeks possibly (unless a toggle on or off actually is implemented). Am having some issues with the older machines in my fleet, some nvmes work fine but others aren't so am stuck in a game of musical storage. My mother might not be shutting down the machines properly in the evening, maybe that is rearing it's ugly head.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

@@sjd6494 We buy keys from them all the time. Use their Customer service chat on the website. May take 3-5 minutes to start the chat but I've always gotten it resolved. We heavily vetted them and have used them for years, so try to resolve using the website chat.

[@xBetoxSa]

New CPU just arrived, upgrading from R5 2600 to a 5600 to keep up with an RTX 3070 . Mostly play Apex Legends at competitive settings. Thanks for these videos, they help a lot!!

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Such a great upgrade. Truly a gift you can BIOS update, drop in a recent cpu like 5600 (5700X also a good pick). GG @@xBetoxSa

[@atirta777]

5:13 Important!!! 3600MT/s CL18 and 3200MT/s CL16 are *NOT* the same speed at all, only their *_latency_* is the same. 3600MT/s still has higher bandwith, which a lot of games like, and running the memory controller and/or Infinity Fabric at a higher frequency brings a lot of performance improvements overall, especially with AMD. *Also* , tRCD (the second reported RAM timing after CL e.g. 16-*_18_*-18-38) impacts performance MORE than Cas latency, so don't exactly pay too much attention to the Cas latency *only*

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

Not important. Functionally the same.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

There is no difference in FPS between those kits, especially at this GPU level and target resolution of 1440p. For all intents and purposes they are identical.

[@atirta777]

​@@PCBuilderChannel Sorry, I tried to give *overall* info and wasn't trying to "correct" anything but my comment kinda sounded like that, my bad Yes, 3200MT/s CL16-tRCD18 and 3600MT/s CL18-tRCD22 are functionally the same for FPS *_on Intel_* , but on Ryzen a 400MHz higher frequency easily overtakes those small differences in primary timings, still, the FPS difference is literally 1-2% between the two kits but yeah😂. (sidenote, 3600MHz kits also commonly have better overclocking chips in them) Faster RAM = Faster overall CPU performance. ANY cpu-bound scenario will get smoother performance. Your choice on the 2x16GB 3600MT/s CL16-19-19 was perfect though👌 My comment was only trying to be educational. Keep making these awesome videos!

[@hiriotapa1983]

@@atirta777 Here in Thailand you can't get any 3600 CL16 kits, the best I could find was Kingston Fury Beast 3600 17-21-21 2x8GB, which I tuned to CL 16-20-(..forgot) and now I've added another 2 sticks, which gives me both dual channel and dual rank, doesn't it?

[@atirta777]

@@hiriotapa1983 Correct, dual rank & dual channel. As long as the two kits are the same exact model, you should have the best performance possible. Though sometimes 2 kits of the exact same model can have completely different memory chips inside them so tuning could get more difficult.

[@Antonis24]

You should consider adding the White Phanteks Eclipse P400A to your mid-tower case recommendations. It's currently selling for 69.99 USD on Newegg (after a 20 USD rebate). It comes with a tampered glass side window, 3x 120mm RGB front case fans and it has really good air flow. It fits my XFX Merc 310 7900 XTX which is 13.5 inches long without any issues.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the tip!

[@innocentbystander3317]

That sounds much cheaper than my Kediers C-570 case, except I got mine 75% off 3 years ago. Still, I'm happy with my case.

[@SpoonHurler]

That's a great price for that... when it was over 80 there were too many better options but 70 is about where it needs to be.

[@kramnull8962]

Tampered glass from newegg, checks out.... That is a good deal, especially compared to the 4000x Corsair, that skimps on the rear fan. $30 for a Corsair 120mm to match; at Best Buy.

[@ACE112ACE112]

only 2 usb-a, 3.5mm headphone jack, 3.5mm microphone jack oof

[@TheWickerShireProject]

I had a whale of a time upgrading my daughters hp slim UHD 605. They gave her hp 4mb 2400 I got her a matched set of 16GB ($21) up grade and we also dropped in a dedicated AMD Low profile Radeon 550RX used. She was playing Genshin Impact in the lowest settings around 25 - 28 fps it now has the ability to turn on a few high and medium setting at a stable 50-54 Fps. Way less choppy. We may drop in an NvMe 2.0 drive some where in the future as the ssd maybe where those earlier hiccups come from. Budget for both ram and GPU was $85 sucks being poor but she waited 2 years for this to happen and kept her grades at straight A's each year! The old chrome book she used is now my sons to learn on.

[@d4ni822]

this is really wholesome. wish you the best!

[@angpham941]

I used to play League in 25fps for years back in the day so I really understand and impress with your daughter's dedication to stick with the game even with that framerate. Cheers to you and your kids, very wholesome story.

[@TheWickerShireProject]

@@angpham941 Looks to me like Genshin Impact is very hardware cpu, hard drive, ram and video card intensive. The video card upgrade and ram helped out. Cheers!

[@K4y74h]

Hey Jason, I Know you just did this as a finale boost my build.. but I just found your channel a few days ago.. I loved your content! So useful, informative and entertaining! I'm working on building up my very first gaming pc and I'd love your intel on my setup. The plan is to build something great that will last me for AT LEAST 5 years running AAA games (not necessarily on ultra, but as best as possible for a long time until I have to update it again. Bare in mind: a lot of components here were chosen to stay - for possible upgrades in the future - and others I've made my peace with the fact I'm gonna have to change them later on - like the gpu). I dont stream, and I've got a basic monitor along for the ride, it's just for my own entertaining. Here's the catch: some stuff is already bought, because I got great deals on them. This what I already own: - PC case - GPU - Power supply (not this actual one. I Couldnt find the one I bought in the website - I think its a brazilian brand or something.. all I can say is that it's a 1000w, 80+ gold, full modular, PCie 5.0 compatible + PFC) Everything else Im taking your recommendation on (although Im quite found of the idea of keeping the Ryzen 9 7950x; and I'd rather not go the Water Cooler route). No actual budget restriction. But I think 2,000USD is a good cap. Oh and.. the LESS RGB,THE BETTER. pcpartpicker.com/user/th3s0n1c/saved/#view=LJZ8Hx

[@kelley09162]

That's a bad CPU GPU Combo. Jason doesn't like the 4060 so unfortunately that was a bad purchase.

[@K4y74h]

@@kelley09162 I thought we were already over this..?

[@kelley09162]

@@K4y74h I'm not trying to be mean. I just want you to have a good PC. You want to use this as a Gaming PC yet you have a GPU not great for Gaming. Also the 7800X3D would be a better CPU for Gaming vs the 7950X.

[@K4y74h]

@@kelley09162 I know. Im just saying I've already explained it to you why I got this one. It was super cheap and it was the closest to high-end GPU that I could afford. And why is the 78003d better?

[@kelley09162]

@@K4y74h Jason says the 7800X3D is the best Gaming CPU you can get. I think it's because of the L3 Cache. And that's a totally fine reason for grabbing that GPU. I was just making sure you knew at some point you'd need to upgrade it.

[@aylim3088]

I have personal experience with the NZXT virus, my build from a year ago was bitten hard! But watching all these boost videos definitely gonna help me out for my next build!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you're enjoying the BMB series! Onward and upward :))

[@Robemcla]

If you already have the case and like it, why not put your next build in that case?

[@rangersmith4652]

The NZXT virus is related to the ROG virus and the Lian Li virus, all of which are variants of the RGB/tempered glass/tiny LCD screens virus and the must-fill-every-fan-slot virus.

[@Audiosan79]

Or it is a part of " I actually care about aesthetics" vaccine.

[@scho45]

Excuse me sir...I will fill all of my fan slots if I want to....I feel personally attacked.

[@rangersmith4652]

@@scho45 Go ahead. Make them all RGB if you want. It's your build, and it's your money.

[@ACE112ACE112]

lian li 216 is good based on gamersnexus review. lian li o11 seems bad

[@trueNahobino]

@@ACE112ACE112 The O11 is technically a good case, it's just expensive. If you have the money, and want to make a build that looks like that, you definitely can.

[@SamyAbdelhay]

I actually just picked up the Deepcool CH560 (non-digital) and it's an AMAZING case for the money. Jason, I haven't even repasted my CPU yet and it literally dropped my cpu temps about 15-18c and keeps my 3080 well under 70c. I went for it because I used your general template for an AM5 7600 build for my cousin last week using the Antek NX410 case, and I was like "how the heck is he just running stock case fans and getting these wildly low temps!?" Figured my old case just had horrible airflow (it did, an ancient Deepcool MATREXX 50) but now things are running so great, im happy to eventually do my overhaul in this case! Awesome stuff as always!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you had a great upgrade! We LOVE that case in our Ryzen 7950X + RTX 4090 production build my wife uses. The airflow is so good!

[@austinstacey]

Awesome! Thank you for using my $450 build as an example. I thought it was pretty good, but clearly, I have much to learn from the great PC Builder! For the record, the customer was happy with the build and the unknown SSD brand seemed to work as intended. We shall see though if the power supply stands the test of time, however =////. Also, can this mobo not be upgraded to 14th gen?

[@Robemcla]

You would need to update the bios first. You have to start with 12th gen. The warning is more for people who are starting fresh. if you are starting with the 12100 you are ok. If the 13100 is cheaper when you go buy it then you may have issues.

[@txmetalcobra]

To be fair. The NZXT H5 Flow is an awesome case! I ditched my chunky P500A for it and I can still fit a 320mm GPU in it with a front mounted AIO. It stays really cool as well. The 2 fans supplied should be enough to keep the system cool as well until 2 more in front can be afforded.

[@pharmdiddy5120]

Was the NZXT case really that big of a deal though? Like really, performance left on the table kind of big deal? You got a couple fans with the replacement case and spent the same amount. The idea of investing in a good case to reuse and upgrade isn't crazy enough to flash NZXT virus in big bold letters.

[@hellhammer5504]

You're missing the fans needed for the NZXT case. 90 vs 150 dollars. That extra 60 bucks saved is needed when doing a budget build

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I compare the boosted build FPS with theirs, it's nearly 80% more FPS.

[@bongodoug]

As a tech who builds computers all the time you didn't boost my build but you did boost my day! You always have a great handle on the current market with great advice.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad we could boost your day!! Thanks for the feedback it means a lot (:

[@Shifune]

Haha, NZXT Virus. I'm currently building my first PC and went with NZXT H7 Flow but only because I got a REALLY good deal ($60 for it) during the holiday sales. If I had to pay full price for it, I can definitely see how that plus fans can easily become a money trap.

[@joseph18382]

All my homies love boost my build 🙏🩷

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We love to hear it! (;

[@PCBuilderChannel]

YES!

[@michaelmcconnell7302]

It's me. I'm the homies.

[@MartinFransson]

You have certified homies 😎

[@blackbirdpctech]

Awesome title ... "NZXT Virus" ... we could also say "RGB virus" ... although I actually like RGB, just not too much. Another great video in the series.

[@GeneralS1mba]

RGB is just cheaper than no RGB at this point because of high demand.

[@blackbirdpctech]

@@GeneralS1mbaagreed.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Haha! :)

[@ACE112ACE112]

@@GeneralS1mba wouldn't demand drive up price though?

[@GeneralS1mba]

@@ACE112ACE112 It makes companies want to sell them for cheaper, because they will sell more of them, so more competition etc.

[@trueNahobino]

At the start of BMB S3, I was a noob. Now, at its end, I understand so much more about computers! Can't wait for next year with season 4!

[@mr.guillotine1312]

In just under 3 months that MP34 has gone up in price by almost $30! Glad I got mine when I did.

[@brandonpayne1207]

When my old am3+ mobo finally died, Im glad i came across your videos. I picked up one of the radion pulse rx 6800 for $410 and managed to get a 5600x3d/tuf gaming mobo/g.skill 16gb kit at micro center for $270 and a be quiet 500fx case with 4 rgb fans for $100. Another $70 for a psu and i got a killer setup for around $900. I did reuse my SSDs and monitor. Next year ill upgrade to a m.2 and 1440p monitor next year. I spent enoughfor now. 1080p ultra on everything for now. 😅

[@thatstreaminbdoee.7985]

I CLICKED ON THIS THINKING THIS WAS JUST A REGULAR VIDEO FROM YOU BUT IM FREAKING OUT ITS A BOOST MY BUILD?!?!?!?! ❤

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Surprise!! BMB for the win! Thanks so much for tuning in :D

[@thatstreaminbdoee.7985]

@@PCBuilderChannelyou're so welcome!! the best surprise!! So excited for the next season and 2024 :D

[@CallsignJubilee]

I can't recommend the CH560 enough. Seriously. I just built my rig in the digital version and it was worth every penny. Tons of airflow, VERY quiet fans (that look decent to boot), great build quality, and good cable management. My single gripe with it is the PSU intake filter. While present, it's just a cheap screen that inserts into place with tabs, so you basically have to lay the PC down to remove it. It's genuinely a great value though!

[@CaptainHinesight]

For about 2 weeks I've done a deep-dive into pc building watching tons of content from so many youtubers and this is one of the best channels I could recommend. PC Builders content is straightforward and has answered many questions I had that I couldn't find solid answers to elsewhere.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much for the awesome feedback! Glad we can help

[@BotchPro]

Dang, Ambrosius chose violence today! Thanks for another great Boost vid!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

The cat came to play today (;

[@SpoonHurler]

*EXTREME VIOLENCE*

[@DazednConfused0]

another great video, I built my second 1080 build this year (on your recommendations) for my son for Xmas, it matched your build here almost exactly went with ryzen 5600, a B550M board, and picked up a rx 6800 at new egg. I also used the Bitfenix (black) case. I did some testing on it with games I play and it was really putting out amazing fps. Thanks again

[@PCBuilderChannel]

That's amazing, congrats on the new build! You're very welcome, thank you for watching and enjoying the channel :D

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Very nice. I did about the same. Gives me headroom to up the GPU, going to a 5800x for free after I sell my 5600X, and I can probably move to AM5 in 6-12mo for next to nothing when prices drop by selling the board/CPU/RAM combo because I got mine used, like new condition.

[@DazednConfused0]

Nice, I plan on moving to AM5 also, it looks like all the components are moving in the right direction, I plan to go "lite" on the RAM though because I agree with Jason that there is likely to be RAM improvements for DDR5 in the not to distant future.@@VndNvwYvvSvv

[@amlanmaity2538]

For music production the recommendation (6800) is pretty good except there are more cheaper case alternative & deepcool AK cooler are best for look & performance. But for high level of production work base line starts from 5700x or 13400f Best option is 13500 or 12600k For only gaming the 5600 is the best value for money processor (AM4)

[@desouzaodane]

How about the 7600 ??

[@amlanmaity2538]

@@desouzaodane if you are talking about Ryzen 5 7600, then it is fast & efficient will do the work (productivity) for few more year. (For gaming it is the best value for money am5/ddr5 cpu right now) But day by day productivity software demanding more raw performance. So the more core is gonna give you more benefit in only those software. For now the standard is the 8 core but who knows the future . & If you are talking about RX 7600 then it is just a mixture of 6600 & 6650xt.

[@desouzaodane]

@@amlanmaity2538 I was talking about the CPU. Sorry for not clarifying but thank you for your response. I really wanted to make my new build with the AM5 platform but my budget can only reach the Ryzen 5 7600 for now. I will definitely upgrade after to a 7700x or 7800x 3D over time.

[@pikor666]

Dear Jason , what do you think biostar b650m silver, is biostar a reliable board maker? The board seems like premium, thank you

[@TenFoot]

Thank you Jason and Mr/Mrs cat!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thank you for watching!!

[@di57inct]

Jason is our tech savior. Straight to the point content with exactly what we need. A lot of the other channels just don't show anything useful anymore.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@di57inct]

​@@PCBuilderChannel💪🍻

[@Jeremex67]

I wonder what's the cheapest competent gaming rig/build that Jason could possibly build. This was extremly fun and useful information. Just curious how low in price we could go.

[@andrzejbogdo9527]

Looking for a budget Sim Racing PC to start with (but with possibility to upgrade in the future). Not playing any other games really, only interested in trying out iRacing. The game doesn't have high requirements, BUT it will be played on ultrawide monitor and in the future I might use triple 27" screens (also it uses a lot of computing power for in-game physics etc). Budget? As low as possible, just to try it out if it's even for me

[@RickBeacham]

Don't buy a PC. Use a PS4 or Xbox Game Console then decide. Assetto Corsa and ACC already have highly optimized version on Playstation and XBOX. AC physics are much better that Gran TUrismo so it should provide a good test case. If you like sim racing then buy a AMD x3d based processor are typically better for Simulation racing games with single monitors.

[@RickBeacham]

@PCandSimRacing This channel focuses on cheap PC builds for Sim Racing. It will cost you about 400 to 500 to get a descent PC for sim racing. You might be able to find used parts... But like I said nothing out there will beat a PS4 or XBOX since the games are highly optmized to the CPU and GPU on those devices. AT 200 dollars or less you can't beat it. You won't have to worry about setting up the simulator either its already prepackaged for you on Assetto Corsa PS4 versions. Also make sure you get a descent Wheel like a Logitec or if you can DD direct drive wheel base. Otherwise it will not be very fun...

[@andrzejbogdo9527]

@@RickBeacham Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it! I already bought Logitech G923 (PC/Xbox version)

[@ThomasPaine01]

Talking about NZXT... I'm living in an annoying situation atm. Since a NZXT CAM update, earlier this week, my Z63 has been giving me air bubble noises. What a bummer! Do you have any tips, brother? BTW, Ambrosius demands some scratches, Jay. Don't fail the cat, man.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Hi Thomas! Sorry I missed this comment a couple weeks ago. Is it possible it changed the pump speed too low? Air bubble noises can happen sometimes, and you can actually take the radiator off and shake it (carefully) like in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIXCppKbgbuif8U

[@ThomasPaine01]

@@PCBuilderChannel Everything is ok now. Thanks!

[@biobrat86]

That first ($1000) build practically describes mine! I did use a Fractal Pop Air for the case though. That Asrock Velocita is a really good "budget" mobo and it has a debug code light (shows numbers/letters).

[@fitah47]

Like I don't get why he doesn't like the SSD, it's a top tier drive, crazy fast

[@biobrat86]

@@fitah47 It's a terrific drive, but for a "mostly gaming" build you really won't notice the difference between a good x3 and a good x4. He put the money he saved there (and elsewhere) towards a better GPU.

[@Curiefeld]

The moment I saw that thermaltake smart power supply, I laughed and knew he wouldn't be happy. $450 is roughly what I spent on a NAS + server build. I bought an old office PC with a 7700k and upgraded a few parts, including the PSU because I didn't trust the one in it already. I looked up the Thermaltake PSU on the cultists list while doing my research.

[@alohaitsjeff]

One thing I'm noticing with these build lists is that Windows is not listed ($140), neither is HQ Thermal Paste, Fan hubs, or any thing else like that. Any particular reason not to list at least the OS in the build budget? It's a huge expense.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

You don't actually need Windows (I often don't bother activating it on my builds) but if you want it you can buy full price or buy a discounted OEM key for around $15-$20. Since these are big variations I let people make their own decision there. Thermal paste often comes included or is a minimal expense. And if a build required fan hubs I would mention it but I don't generally design builds that use them.

[@MadMackz]

I think its the first time that I 100% agree with your build swap. Good finds, Great value for the perf/dollar on that build. 100% agree on the SSD swap, the WD Black has been decent for me, I also have a corsair p600 but the star of my show is the cheaper and surprisingly much faster old A-data XPG s11 pro. This ssd has been rock solid and bl;ows away the other two in actual read write speeds. holding a higher transfer rate much longer during high GB loads.

[@venomsspider1]

Hi so I just want to start off by saying love the channel and quickly becoming a pc enthusiast. I built the $1000 pc in this video... well kinda. Had to change a few things mainly the gpu because the one recommended wasn't in stock so I subbed it out with the phantom Gaming rx6800 xt. Overall this was a great build. I use it for gaming and primarily playing warzone. So one issue I ended up noticing is I think the ryzen 5 5600 is a bit of a bottleneck for the system, at least with warzone. I was regularly hitting 80%+ cpu usage in game with nothing else running in the background. So I just ended up switching to a ryzen 7 5800x tonight and definitely a big difference, I'm now down to about 60-70% cpu usage while gaming. Again overall love the build and love the channel, keep up the great work!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Fantastic! Thanks for sharing and congrats on your build!

[@chumbawumba1959]

The BitFenix Nova Mesh M ARGB is sold out at NewEgg. A great alternative case is the BitFenix NOVA MESH SE TG White, which is currently $54.90 at NewEgg (fan configuration may not be same, tho). I have done recent budget AM4 builds in both and very easy to work with and with great look in white.

[@PapaMav]

I have a the Zalman S2 and correct, I bought it when the case market was upside down and bought it after Newegg shipped me a banged up Phanteks P300A, LOL. When I bought the Zalman, they only had acrylic side panels, now they have glass available. Case has very good airflow and IMO is great for a Mico MOBO.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Nice!

[@erabbit777]

Just a heads up on that MB. It needs a WIFI card

[@hiriotapa1983]

Nice video! Very informative and you, Jason, always sound so enthusiastic... what SSD would you recommend instead of the Team Group MP34 2 tb? Here in Thailand it's not for sale, so I went with a MP44L 2 tb for about 2800 baht=80 usd, actually our 3rd SSD after WD SN770 and Silicon Power UD85. Over a year ago me and my son bought a i7 11700KF with a huge discount, for +- 192usd, instead of a gen12 i5 12400, about the same price back then.... very content with it, even though it's a dead platform.. hopefully it lasts a few years and combined with a used Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT for 355usd and 32gb 3600CL17 (tuned to 16), it's pretty powerful.. do you have experience with using a 42-43" 4K TV as a monitor? They're very cheap compared to large monitors, although my son prefers a 2K 34" ultrawide as a future replacement for his 24" FHD screen. Is the 6800XT+11700K powerful enough to drive an ultrawide 2K screen at high fps?

[@ovistech]

Look for MP44, it's DRAM-less but mind blowing. I'm working on the video for the 2TB model.

[@hiriotapa1983]

@@ovistech I already got the MP44L which is DRAM-less too. It's pretty fast too, but probably different controller and NAND flash? I use it in a PCIE 3.0 slot, so no need for the faster version than the L. Yours is the fast version, with Maxio 1602A controller and YMTC 232-layer flash?

[@ovistech]

@@hiriotapa1983 yes

[@Averagedude-mi3fl]

On the 1000 dollar build, good call for the 6800, but Newegg has an asrock 6800xt on sale for 449 right now.

[@makerudji6682]

I feel like ryzen 5 5600 is weak for that gpu

[@snowmansan]

i got a 5900x what should i pair with for 4k ?

[@hiriotapa1983]

New or 2nd-hand? Budget? Games?

[@snowmansan]

@@hiriotapa1983 new or budget. second hand also possible

[@ovistech]

RX 7800XT ?

[@BesharamLive]

Can we do streaming 1080 p Gta online with 450 dollars pc build that you suggest ??

[@SpoonHurler]

You can stream GTA online at 1080p60 at 7000-ish bitrate and play at 1080p60... might dip on max settings if you need to us nvenc, which you probably will.

[@BesharamLive]

@@SpoonHurler any other suggestion to build under 450 $ build i will buy used gpu

[@SpoonHurler]

​@@BesharamLive for a 450 usd build the only thing I'd try to change is the case. I like that case but not enough to go over 10% of the budget... I'd try to find a case+fans for around 45-50 bucks which that might drop back down to as I type 😂

[@SpoonHurler]

Feelings on the A380 6gb for 94 usd for ultra budget? I personally would roll the dice on a used 1070 or a refurbed 580 but the low profile variant doesn't need a power adapter so less psu needed.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

If you have rebar support 8th gen/newer or recent cpus they seem okay for low power/SFF builds. You probably won't be playing day 1 games without driver issues and Starfield FPS might still be an issue from what I've heard (&/ if you change settings it becomes one). I wasn't much into Starfield personally so if that doesn't matter they seem new and decent for that price range. Could also look AMD budget maybe a 5600 or something cheap. 94 is decent though, I like the not needing a power adapter, you can just slot it in. Haven't used myself but that seems appealing just have the newer cpu limitations with rebar for performance.

[@SpoonHurler]

@@dianaalyssa8726 oh, I forgot that it needs rebar... that definitely could be a deal breaker for some ultra budget builds. I'm going to sound like a jerk but if you are building a 400-500 usd build then playing games day one shouldn't be a deal breaker. I haven't bought an arc card yet either... might get one when my nas is up and running just to test out.

[@NerdAttempato]

Thanks for this video, although here in Europe we're persecuted by extra prices due to VAT taxes around a +20% compared to US prices :)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yep! These prices don't include tax because different states have different tax amounts (including a couple lucky states with so sales tax at all) but most states will see totals somewhat closer to what you are seeing with tax

[@EatLeadPal]

Mr. Bear wasn't in the mood to do a video. 🤣

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Mr. Bear appreciates your concern and thanks you for watching :D

[@JahonCross]

Honestly you missing out on montech chassis they are king of price budget buyers

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes we recommend a lot of them in our best case 2023 video!

[@Physics072]

I have to say you did great at fixing the first guys NZXT virus :). Yea the Ripjaws are stable and quality over teamgroup ram for sure. And the 16 latency will get a few more Fps. Shiney objects lured him to NZXT and he tossed out a ton of gaming performance.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

Team is pretty decent, and there are only a few companies actually manufacturing most RAM (just like most PC "brands" are just Foxconn or Compal), but yeah. I was surprised that most Oloy (whatever the heck that is) seems to use high quality chips and run just as well. Geil has been cheap lately too, and they were top shelf before all this Ripjaws and LED dgaming hype existed.

[@konstantinlozev2272]

What about a Rx 5700XT in that super budget build? Nothing against that GTX 1070Ti though. Solid GPU (at a certain point I had 3 of those in the 3 PCs in our house) and can even do some local AI work. Can certainly do even 1440p with FSR.

[@ezecskornfan]

Cat couldn't calm you down so he is away lol. Great video as always.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yep, he gave up on me (;

[@nostrum6410]

for the first build get the 12600k, throw a 240 or 280 aio on it, use the 2 included fans as intake and your good. unfortunately i really doubt you will find a 6800 for 400, better chance of getting a 7700xt for 400

[@Algorythmfpv]

I recently built a new rig. Ryzen 7 7700, 7900 XT 20GB, 32GB 6000mHz CL30, MSI Mag tomahawk, with a Noctua U12A, in the corsair 4000x. Love the thing. Rips up 1440 and maxes out my 165 hz monitor on most games. Decent frames at decent graphics settings in demanding things like Ark survival ascended (the reason for the upgrade). To save a little money, and because I don't plan on doing 4k gaming, just wanted to future proof my system for my 1440 monitor for the next few years, I didn't go top of the line GPU. Therefore I decided to go with the 7700 non x version CPU because of it's ability to overclock so similar to it's x version but topping out about 30 watts less and 15--20*C cooler with a steady overclock I knew it would be a beast for what I'll use it for.

[@Algorythmfpv]

For my budget I could have gotten a better system for sure. But I like aesthetics too. On the system itself, purely power. I probably spent about 1900, after taxes just over 2k, but in total with cords and cables, adapters, RGB, fan cable splitters, vertical GPU mount, fans, an overkill CPU cooler and sending it to my guy to have him overclock everything and stress test the unit it was closer to 25. and I'm not mad about it

[@sologamer3122]

So much better than linus tech tips, especially since their scandal

[@gockel_behind_you]

Hey Jason, what is the difference between those OEM keys for like 20 bucks and the windows keys from Amazon for over 100? Are they the same? Is there anything wrong with it?

[@SpoonHurler]

OEM keys are just for 1 build (generally tied to one chipset but Microsoft has historically not heavily enforced that unless you change parts more than once a year). Retail keys (which you can buy from vendors with long track records, I use urcdkeys but there are others) can be tied to your microsoft account and move to more builds. They are usually around 20-30 usd. Just buy from a place with a good history and isn't ebay.

[@sjd6494]

I bought a win 11 key from sponsor...didn't work and they never answered thier email..stuck with a useless key and poorer

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Honestly in practice not much. Spoon sums it up pretty well but how often do you need to port your windows key over to a new build after you've just built one?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

I buy keys from them all the time. Their customer service is pretty good at answering any issue, including if the key didn't work. Try their support chat on the website. Sometimes it takes a couple minutes to get a CS rep but when you do I've never had an issue.

[@Machistmo]

power color 6600xt with a 5600x is about 11.8 k in Timespy, with the 6800XT Nitro its 16k

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Yes significant performance difference.

[@Yametzy-PC-uj2zo]

Hey there, Jason! I'm reaching out to get your opinion on building a budget-friendly PC that I'm currently working on. Could you recommend a cost-effective CPU, motherboard, and GPU combination that can handle maximum settings at 1440P and provide entry-level 4K gaming capabilities? Additionally, it would be great if you could also share your preferred brands for these components. Thanks!

[@kelley09162]

Depends on what your budget is, but the cheapest GPU I think that could handle entry level 4K is the 7800XT. As for the CPU the 7600 or 7800X3D are good options. For the Motherboard any B650 with good reviews should be fine. The new Gigabyte Eagle (which is the cheapest ATX B650) looks good but doesn't have any reviews yet.

[@Arkangel0187]

LOVE your content, thinking about becoming a channel member next year!

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Thanks so much! Yes, please join us, we'd love to have you--including in our livestreams! :D

[@greeshmaisave5410]

Yeahhhhhh boi lets go my favorite youtuuuubbbber !🎉🎉 thank for video mate Is 7900xtx faster than rtx 4090 in davinci?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

:) hello! 7900 XTX & 4090 are both insanely fast, and I think NVIDIA made some additional optimizations in Da Vinci so I'm not sure which is faster now.

[@zonemanbobo]

I'm curious what your daily computer is? Case, fans, parts ECT? The PC you use for Warcraft.

[@bigdaddyautism5563]

thoughts on liquid metal thermal paste?

[@FieryMeltman]

Only useful for extreme overclocking, which is not necessary at all. Liquid metal is potentially dangerous for your motherboard. Just use regular thermal paste, and make sure it isn't electrically conductive.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Not a fan as it is conductive and you need to be very careful with it. I'd just go Kryonaught paste instead.

[@SlimP515]

How long is the discount code good for? I just built my 1st pc: Powercolor 7800xt hellhound (before price went up) 13700k (MC bundle) Asus z790 p wifi (MC bundle) Gskill-32gb-ddr5-6000 (MC bundle) Galahad II sl inf aio (overkill cinebench never went over 87C) 2 t500 nvme ssd 1&2tb Deepcool PQ1000M 1k watt psu(on sale) Lian li 216 rgb case Your video's helped so much with setup

[@Leo___________]

Hey Jason, love the content as usual! I know the channel is called PC builder, but I've seen some crazy deals this xmas season on gaming laptops with the latest gen mobile GPUs. Perhaps they could be worth mentioning as entry level options?

[@phantomboy51]

If i use deepcool ch560 case and put 360 mm aio on the top side of the case then it will make a negative airflow so should i remove the back 120mm fan for a efficient airflow or it's not a problem to have 3 140mm front fan 3 120mm top and 1 120mm back fan configuration?

[@christophersanders8172]

I have a Dell G5 5000 series, my buddy told me I needed to upgrade the graphics card, so I got the rtx 3060, which ended up having 2 more pins for it than the original power supply has attached. So I upgraded the power supply to a Corsair RM750, which apparently can’t plug into my motherboard since the H470 chipset doesn’t have a 24 pin plug in. So now, it appears I have to get a new motherboard. I plan on upgrading the processor also, but at this point, I’m not sure if I get anything it’ll even be compatible.

[@kelley09162]

Why not just build a new PC using the 3060 and Corsair PSU? I could try and help you pick out the parts if you want.

[@christophersanders8172]

@@kelley09162 I just about did. I have an I5 12600K coming today and a MSI PRO Z690-A WiFi ProSeries Motherboard coming in a few days.

[@ltsJoeMama]

I need some help a bit. I have a 1060 with an old i5 from 2017. Fortnite runs awful on it (60 fps with huge drops and stutters) Overwatch runs surprisingly great on it (over 160 fps) I have a 7700t model my friend gave me but i dont think its worth upgrading to it. Should I buy a new cpu and motherboard? Like an i7-12700? Or do you think a 3070 for $300 is a good deal? I'll upgrade whichever one I dont get in a couple months.

[@bradn2399]

In the uk I built myself a ryzen 5 5600, rx 6750xt, 32gb 3200 Corsair vengeance, gigabyte b550 arous elite, a 2tb hard drive 2 500gb ssd and a Thermaltake tough power gf1 850 cost me less then £1000

[@kdbrier1]

Where do I submit a boost your build? I like to build 5 year PCs and just bought at AMD 7800xSD and have nothing else and it kills me to spend over $200 on a motherboard. Play New World and Call of Duty games.

[@kelley09162]

He has a Community Post every month asking for submissions. He'll have another one in January.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

What Ty said! And we also announce its time on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason

[@ShadyButFresh]

THANK YOU for iterating why the Asrock Mobo was terrible Asrock themselves aren't a terrible brand overall, but their mobos are pretty bottom-tier across the board

[@Peytonwatson14]

Can you have an air cooler, can you still vertical mount your gpu? First time builder buying parts

[@GaspoweR]

For the 450 budget build i would have just went with only a CPU with integrated graphics and no GPU just to leave that option open for an upgrade path. I could already see the PSU being a tough bottleneck for upgrades too.

[@RagnarokCo]

Don't do this people. Just buy a used RX 580 for $50. Integrated graphics will make an internet browsing PC not a gaming PC, why waste the money.

[@ACE112ACE112]

have just gone*

[@alexbowler2871]

Do you have any advice regarding the microcenter cpu mobo ram bundles they seem like really good deals not sure why I don’t hear about them more

[@babyinthewater948]

Hi Jason! Any recommendations for a 1080P gaming PC for early 2024? I don't mind the future proofing and stuff, I just wanna play lmao

[@lordpanda2463]

I need some help, I am considering building my 2nd PC and i want to majorly upgrade from a ryzen 5 5600x/3060 rtx to a ryzen 7 7800x3d/7800 xt....basically starting over with a whole new build as i want to give my existing PC to a friend for his first PC. I dont necessarily have a budget but I still want to adhere to price-performance for 1440p gaming.where do i send the link to the potential parts i have added to my shopping list for your review? (PS also with enough future proofing that i wont have to swap out major pieces in the next 2-3 years in case of a gpu upgrade etc etc)

[@PCBuilderChannel]

We'll be putting out the call for Boost My Build submissions later this month for a community post. We can't cover everyone of course so if you are looking for more feedback check out our "How to Pick PC Parts 2024" video where we go over places we recommend posting builds to

[@logo8009]

78003dx or 7900x are they close in gaming? I game, but I also do a little video edit. they have a good price bundle with both CPU, but the 7900x close with a much better mother and memory for $100 more.

[@plasticdegree]

While yes you did get below his total cost, its actually little less. The total cost for him was 1,006 because he already bought his fan controller

[@JaySosaNY]

How do you think the 6800 compares to the 7800xt I’ll be doing a new build soon considering going ryzen 5 7600 and one of these cards budget between 1000 and 1200 mostly Fortnite gta and maybe call of duty

[@RickBeacham]

It depends on the games you play. 7800xt vs 6800xt has like a 10% difference on average based on Daniel Owens tests and handles Ray tracing better also includes a hardware based VIDEO encoder for streaming. If you can afford the 7800xt then buy it. It will likely have a longer life than a 6800xt. I have a 6800 RX and it works for the games I play currently. I use the video encoder on my 7800x3d for encoding videos for now.

[@avery4528]

I'm planning on getting a Zowie XL2546K 240hz 1080p monitor for $400 so I need a stronger CPU. I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen 7700 and 7800XT. Is this overkill? I would like single-player games to utilize strobing so I'd need to lock in at 100fps in modern titles and the CPU needs to lock in at 240hz at 1080p for multiplayer.

[@PCBuilderChannel]

7700 is overkill for this, I'd recommend 7600 instead

[@Chrisa2008]

Loved the video Quick question could I pair a ryzen 5 7600 with a 6800?

[@kelley09162]

Yes that's a good combo

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Agreed, good combo!

[@Chrisa2008]

Kelley and pc builder u guys are amazing always replying to me thx much love

[@Daniel-ur3mw]

starting a new build with a $3500-$4000 budget. What is your opinion of the Asus Z790 Gaming A wifi II vs the Aorus Z790 Pro X ? Both in the same price range.

[@kelley09162]

So if going for a White Build I would actually look at the MSI Pro Z790-A Max because of its price. The other two also seem good though.

[@spit8437]

Jason what is your opinion on LHR graphics card? Do you recommend them or should they be avoided?

[@trueNahobino]

LHR gpus perform the exact same for gaming. They were only created to make them worth less to crypto miners during the pandemic.

[@Mikaaaaayswan]

Hi! Not related to this video, but just want to ask if I should upgrade from a windows 10 to a windows 11? Is this already optimized or does it have better layout? For context I have a Ryzen 5 7500F Xfx Rx7800XT 32gbs of 6000mhz, CL38 ram 1TB storage (Only 300ish remaining)

[@The_Lexik]

S3 was great, and i thank you for all the advice from it

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ally_vc]

Idk what's really wrong with the Thermaltake smart psu. I know it says 600w even though the 12 volt output is closer to 550 if you look at specs but that's what I've had in my built since 2020. An explanation would help

[@Audiosan79]

Well. fire hazard, explosive hazard. pc hardware hazard, take your pick. they have been blowing up do to failing over current protection.

[@zero2dash]

Hmm, I haven’t seen reports anywhere of them blowing up. Quite the contrary, even Gamers Nexus did a report on the Smart PSU line and said it was “fine”. I’ve used them for several customer PCs and have no complaints, going on several years now that I’ve had them in service. Not everyone needs an A tier rated Gold PSU.

[@Audiosan79]

@@zero2dash A simple google search reveals page up and page down about this problems.

[@gabriel.hongkong]

I got a H7 Flow on sale during Cybermonday. Not sure why NZXT is getting the bad rep.

[@HarshMTAGaming]

Hi, I am planning to make a build with an i5 13500. Could you please suggest the other components to me. And thoughts on both ddr4 and ddr5.

[@kelley09162]

I can try, I just need to know your budget and what you're using the PC for.

[@HarshMTAGaming]

@@kelley09162 gaming and video editing. Budget 700-800$ without GPU. I will get rtx 4070 or ti later.

[@kelley09162]

@@HarshMTAGaming here's a build for you. It's over budget at 802 and doesn't include Tax but should be a good build for you. It's list / RyZZWt in PC Part Picker. Intel Core i5-13500 CPU ID-COOLING FROZN A410 BLACK MSI MAG B760 TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM ADATA Premium For PS5 2TB SSD Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750W PSU

[@bjrnchrstn]

Currently running a 7600x and rtx3080 with 64 ddr5 ram for DCS in VR. Feel that I don’t get the best out of the game, specially now that DCS uses multithreading. Would you recommend a cpu upgrade? Or is the gpu the bigger bottleneck? Love your channel btw! ❤

[@RickBeacham]

I have a AMD 7800X3d with a 6800 RX, Auros ELite 650, 32 Ram, 850W Gold Thermatake 2023 power supply and Lian Li 260 Case, Peerless Assassin .... How can I safely under volt the 7800X3d to decrease heat and power consumption? Is it advised? Assetto Corsa with Shader packs all extensions on by default : 80FPS at 4k 44" Screen.

[@swie-g8w]

Hi Jason, I was wondering if the 12100F would give me better performance in games such as Fortnite or Valorant on the lowest settings than the 10400F?

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Depends on the GPU you pair it with but yes probably

[@milad-kh892]

Hi Jason and everybody

[@Cloudninja927]

I have a question very new to PC building. I bought a pre built Lenovo with a intel i7 4770 and has 16 GB Ram (2 yrs ago) but I want to upgrade but I don’t know how to go about it whether to get a New Graphics card and the 32GB of ram. Or just build a new one from scratch I’m not looking for anything crazy. But would like to be able to play Hell Let Loose and resident evil 4 with better graphics n stuff

[@kelley09162]

With that old of CPU you'd be better building a new one from scratch.

[@Cloudninja927]

@@kelley09162 damn it’s old?? And here I thought it was one of the new ones😭😭

[@kelley09162]

@@Cloudninja927 Intel 4770 mean it's a 4th Gen CPU. We recently got Intel 14th Gen.

[@trueNahobino]

@@Cloudninja927 You were probably thinking of the 14700k, not the 4770 (both share simialr numbers). Always make sure to pay attention to the number after the i# and see when it released, specs of the chip, etc.

[@nimrodpaul6875]

Just curious to any opinion on my mb in the prebuilt i bought a month ago, ( heres what im getting at) its an i5 13400f with the 4060, ( mb- asrock b760m-c), 32 gb ddr5 teamgroup vulcan red 6000 mghz, adata 2tb gen4 legend 800 gold, amethyst ll case and a 600 gold psu.... my goal is to eventually upgrade the 4060 to a 7800xt or a 4070. I put so much info because im really new to this and wasnt sure what info is needed for the question i have.,,, which gpu upgrade and will i need a new psu and is my mb good enough. Im enjoying the 4060 for now but pretty sure soom i will not be. Its very quiet and cool temps,, when i run old games on 4k i do hear the fans but its still so cool temps.

[@kelley09162]

So for Gaming the 7800XT is better than the 4070 unless you really care about Ray Tracing. As for the PSU you'll need to put your build into PC Part Picker and times the watts by 1.5 to see what watt PSU you need. I assume you'll need a new one if you go 7800XT.

[@michaelvandermaas5871]

Few issues - but a big one - that i3 will bottleneck that GPU by an enormous amount.... This wont allow that GPU to work at its full potential at all. Maybe at 1440p you might catch a break but thats not really a 1440p card

[@malvinchau2056]

How much percent of the budget should gpu be? Mine was more than 50% of my budget.

[@bhgpharmacy3540]

Hi, Jason I was wondering if I should upgrade my i3-1200f to a i5-12600kf or save up and upgrade my rx 6600?( i play at 1080p but have a secondary 1440p monitor which i also use)

[@kelley09162]

Your 6600 would be imbalanced with the 12600KF.

[@bhgpharmacy3540]

thats what i was thinking but didnt know for sure@@kelley09162

[@gamrjph]

hi. can i also show you my pcpartpicker build for my first gaming pc build? i am not an experienced pc builder, actually this will be hopefully my first time building a system, and I am somewhat clueless at this point. thanks

[@kelley09162]

He has a Community Post every month asking for Submissions. He'll have another one in January though if you don't want to wait that long post yours in December's and I can take a look.

[@jbirdjbc1]

Hey Jason I currently have a 5600x with 3070 is is worth upgrading to a 7800xt for gaming or will 7800xt bottleneck the 5600x?

[@kelley09162]

The 5600X and 7800XT is a good combo so it should be a nice upgrade for you.

[@jbirdjbc1]

@@kelley09162 should I got higher than that I game at 1440p

[@kelley09162]

​​@@jbirdjbc1no. Jason says the 7800XT is the highest GPU he'd pair with the 5600X.

[@jbirdjbc1]

@@kelley09162 thank you i appreciate it

[@PCBuilderChannel]

Its a fine pair.

[@garym9691]

How can I share my pcpartpicker build to get some help?

[@kelley09162]

He has a Community Post every month asking for submissions. He'll have one again in January.

[@robertlucke4964]

Love this Playlist awesome videos Jason thank you for all the content love your channel

[@PCBuilderChannel]

So glad you are enjoying! Thank you for watching

[@JoTaSan]

Im so sad i bought RX 6650xt one month ago for 245€... I still ddnt upgraded my CPU and Motherboard, i have i5 2500 with Asus Z-77a, very old, big bottleneck and im crashing in CS2, i was thinking to get i5 12400 or 13500 with a B760 DDR4 motherboard, do you think it's a good idea or should i try to get my RX 6650xt refund ?

[@kelley09162]

So if you're using the PC for Gaming an AMD CPU would be better. A 5600 AMD CPU would go well with your 6650XT.

[@JoTaSan]

@@kelley09162 i'll do computer music too

[@kelley09162]

​@@JoTaSanoh okay

[@Juniorgalle21]

Hi there, question? Is this a good build for an upgrade XFX Mer319 RX 7800 XT, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Corsair Vengeance 32GB 6000MHz DDR5 Intel XMP, MSI Mag B650 Tomahawk WiFi Socket LGA 1718, Corsair 5000D ATX MidTower Case, Corsair CX750M Watt 80+ Bronze, Corsair ICUE H150i Elite Capellix XT 120mm Fans + 360mm Radiator Liquid Cooler System.

[@kelley09162]

So the Cooler is overkill, the Case isn't the best as it only comes with 2 Fans, and you should get a higher rated PSU. The CPU, GPU, and Motherboard as are good choices though as is the RAM if it's 6000 CL30.

[@Juniorgalle21]

@@kelley09162 I have 3 extra Corsair single fans connected to my current build, well to the Corsair ICUE commander. The commander could connect 6 fans. So in total I have 6 right now. 2 on top, 1 in the back and then the Corsair liquid cooler fans in the front which is the one I mentioned for the upgrade. What do you mean by overkill? Sorry I’m not use to these pc terms yet. I’ve had my current pc build for about 4-5 months.

[@Juniorgalle21]

@@kelley09162 which PSU do you recommend? The RAM is CL36 6000MHz 1.4V

[@kelley09162]

@@Juniorgalle21 by overkill I mean you don't need a 360mm AIO to cool a 7800X3D. I good Air Cooler can cool a 7800X3D. As for the PSU a Fully Modular Gold rated PSU would be better and maybe get an 850W one.

[@carolynbeck-no4qe]

so im building a pc is 60fps good for single player games? i hear 120 is ideal for fps games but im trying to save cash. thanks