What Did Celtic Swordfighting Look Like?

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Medieval Genie

Medieval Genie

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@livrasyt166
@livrasyt166 3 жыл бұрын
wow that is a big jump on quality improvement you did here sir! that was a really nice video! keep it up your great work!
@jackduncan5311
@jackduncan5311 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this practically implemented with a Celtic scale shield
@jackduncan5311
@jackduncan5311 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatumergo3931 Yeah I've seen the bro tha ks :)
@jackduncan5311
@jackduncan5311 2 жыл бұрын
@@tatumergo3931 If you like Celtic content bro head over to my podcast too "The Celtic History Podcast"
@bmo5082
@bmo5082 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you get more views. Great content!
@braydicus
@braydicus 2 жыл бұрын
Not even halfway thru the video and I subscribed. Great video
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Some viewers felt it needed more research first, so I will be aiming to improve.
@mrfitz96
@mrfitz96 Жыл бұрын
Whenever you discuss swords it's worthwhile mentioning that in most historic periods they were not a warrior's primary weapon for battle, which in most cases would have been some type of polearm like a spear. In fact swords were rare and valuable status item for elites, and either carried as a backup weapon or as an everyday carry self-defense weapon to be used against other unarmoured opponents.
@damionkeeling3103
@damionkeeling3103 9 ай бұрын
As you say true for most of the time but the sword was the primary weapon of the Roman legions from around the 3rd century bc. It seems to have been the primary weapon of the front rank of Celts even earlier.
@paavohirn3728
@paavohirn3728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Fascinating and clear presentation. All of this makes a lot of sense.
@LABCHiMP
@LABCHiMP 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been searching for a long time for a video like this. I bought a celtic inspired sword and came to similar conclusions regarding the fighting style. Absolutely designed primarily as a sword and shield. I'd have a feeling cultural significance were attached to the each. The oval shields reach no doubt was used as an offensive weapon. The blunt force of the top of the shield would rattle you. I've yet to find a local supplier who sells oval shields. I guess I'll have to make one.
@Brett.Williams365
@Brett.Williams365 11 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff. Thank you . (North Wales, UK)
@bazillite
@bazillite 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping the sword back is a nice little tip Also the flair near the hilt was there to stop scabbard rattle and should be a little bigger than the flair further up. I think there are a few examples of bronze swords with edge damage and been hammered flat I think that would make them really brutal if you were to get cut by it. Like a rough sawblade.
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 3 жыл бұрын
I've always found that a serrated edge are far worse for cutting than a smooth, finely sharp edge. Unless you're cutting logs into planks of course!
@giftzwerg7345
@giftzwerg7345 Жыл бұрын
@@MedievalGenie an interessting question is thier use in shield walls, where you cant raise your shield, the main weapon is the spear, and multiple sourses i know one greek that say dont throw your spear uless you have a spare coz a spear is worth two swords in a shield wall. still how would words be used, would that person simply break the wall to fight as an idifidual?, would they use it as a semi spear, / on its own (spears are blockedwith spear in a shield wall) how do you defend against a sword in a shield wall? i mean you got your friends with spears allaround you to support you, but what do you do just relly on them? Block with the spear? break the formation, get your sword out?
@brianmincher716
@brianmincher716 2 жыл бұрын
Instant subscribe. Also, I would think that a shield would cause someone to be much more stabby than slashy. Slashy is fun and looks cool in the movies but the shield I’m standing behind to save my life is going to get in the way of me making big flashy (and calorically expensive) swings of my sword awkward, at best.
@TheAchilles26
@TheAchilles26 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the cuts you're using, ESPECIALLY if the opponent is also using a shield. I've found that slashes/cuts to the weapon arm are much more viable against an opponent with a shield than thrusts to....pretty much anywhere.
@tedhodge4830
@tedhodge4830 Жыл бұрын
No sources? The Romans wrote a book called The Gallic Wars. There were several occasions in which they wrote about direct engagements with Celtic and Gallic warriors. You might call it exaggerated nonsense, but they were contemporary sources, primary sources, from a people that fought them directly on a scale that resulted in their virtual annihilation. I'd say that counts.
@exodojosuetcg1909
@exodojosuetcg1909 3 жыл бұрын
great video i love it, can you please make a vid on "transitional armor" it was used with brigantine and plates on arms and legs and also sometimes great helm... apart from that i don't know much (where it was used, who used it, what battles it was used in etc...) so if you could grant my wish it would be amazing, thanks
@dustinpecor2677
@dustinpecor2677 3 жыл бұрын
most of these shields seem to me to have horizontal grips, so it was kinda triggering watching the positioning of your hand holding the imaginary shield with a vertical punch grip
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately I noticed this detail AFTER making the video.
@dustinpecor2677
@dustinpecor2677 3 жыл бұрын
@@MedievalGenie happens bro haha, it's all good 👍 I'm over it now
@shaundouglas2057
@shaundouglas2057 2 жыл бұрын
After having numerous bouts with viking sheild edges facing out, it does work extremely well on a one on one situation, not against multiple opponants though, and having made a celtic sheild with as you said a horizontal grip this works even better. If you are interested it is explained very well on this video about using large centre grip sheilds in this manner kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn_IeKymftCUebM
@andrewmilburn7656
@andrewmilburn7656 3 жыл бұрын
Have you read the study regarding use of the bronze age weapons? Take a look at it. Makes for interesting reading.
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 3 жыл бұрын
There is one that got linked to me on Facebook, which I found really fascinating though a bit overwhelming in detail!
@johnhayes8557
@johnhayes8557 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing common sense regarding Gallic and Brythonic sword play. Given that my ancestors in IReland and Galicia in ancient times actually had swords with quillions, at least on the anthropomorphic hilted swords so commonly used, what should we make of that?
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 10 ай бұрын
It could be one (or more) of a number of factors: - If the shields were smaller, the hand protection would come into play. I recommend looking into Sword & Buckler treatises for more on that. - If fighters in duels or battles did more close up action, they could bind and manipulate much more easily. I recommend looking at general sword wind and bind play. - Similar to point one, there may have been some instances of such swords being used on their own, without a shield at all. - It could be simply about aesthetics, as the anthropomorphic design is interesting and doesn't impede sword quality. - It could be for leverage. I found with a tightly set 'Viking' style sword I made, unlike big-hilted reenactment versions I could use the top and bottom of my hand on the pommel and quillons, powering cutting with my wrist rotation. There may also be other factors that I hadn't considered.
@johnnutter7372
@johnnutter7372 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and your accent. Haha. Keep it up.
@Chroma710
@Chroma710 Жыл бұрын
Ayo, alternate universe metatron.
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie Жыл бұрын
Oh no, another Metatron comparison!
@magnusmaul5447
@magnusmaul5447 2 жыл бұрын
So, similar to Claymore and targe and/or Germanic sword and shield techniques.
@brianmacc1934
@brianmacc1934 3 жыл бұрын
So , when do we get to see
@LaurentLugonMoulin
@LaurentLugonMoulin 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for that ! Just a precision on the shield. The handle is horizontal not vertical, it changes a lot the way you use it. Especially about the "opening" and "closing" of the shield when you strike. It is hardly doable with an horizontal handle. From my experience, striking around your shield is a more valid hypothesis. But as you say, there is no sources... This video from Mr. Vernel illustrate what I'm trying to say. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pn2xqYmwptyqqqs
@CharlesKyle97
@CharlesKyle97 Жыл бұрын
We also had Falcata's
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie Жыл бұрын
Did I forget to mention the falcata? I even forged one (sort of) and tested it in another video!
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
@IosuamacaMhadaidh 2 жыл бұрын
Is this guy the Metatron's cousin? 😂😋 great video 👍
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to get compared to him and Lindybeige a lot!
@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699
@outsideiskrrtinsideihurt699 2 жыл бұрын
I only saw the Metatron part first but now that you mention it, you do seem like a perfect blend of Lindybeige and Metatron Cool video btw
@IosuamacaMhadaidh
@IosuamacaMhadaidh 2 жыл бұрын
@@MedievalGenie that's funny!! 👍
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 3 жыл бұрын
what are the advantages of Celtic shields over Roman ones?
@wilb6657
@wilb6657 3 жыл бұрын
Probably longer reach-at least.
@michaelschudlak1432
@michaelschudlak1432 3 жыл бұрын
The Romans copied or were inspired and improved Celtic weaponry, shield, sword, helmets and the chainmail was invented by the celts. Let's not forget the Celtic Welsh longbow and how the English was inspired to use the longbow. Before you mention ancient Celts and Welsh are related.
@seanpackham210
@seanpackham210 3 жыл бұрын
Oval shields deflect downward blows where the rectangle would bite into the shield. But they are very simular in size grip and construction so I think its down to tactics and skill rather than equipment
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 3 жыл бұрын
Classical Celtic martial cultures are very diverse i guess.
@schreiberundleser5318
@schreiberundleser5318 3 ай бұрын
Why you show mostly bronze age swords? the celts as the romans encountered (and the romans themself) were ironage cultures. the late bronzage/early ironage period, which is called hallstatt-culture is loosley associated with proto-celts, but there is a time gap of 600 years of this swordstyle and the first mention of celts. and some of your swords are eary bronzeage, so the gap widens to 2000 years...
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