MSI Coreliquid vs nzxt kraken x72 vs EK AIO. Battle of the 360 AIO's

[@shuper_j5819]

Hey man, this was a great video. Informative and well paced. Thanks!

[@gocomputer4947]

super....thanks

[@errieyt]

Hi PCGoblin, Great video! I bought the amd ryzen 9 3900xt with the msi coreliquid 240r. Do you think it is enough to cool my cpu? Watching from the Netherlands!

[@PCGoblin]

Thats awesome! It should be good, it wont have tons of thermal headroom but unless youre trying for high overclocking then you should be great. :)

[@errieyt]

@@PCGoblin Great! Thank you for the quick response :D

[@PCGoblin]

:D

[@Emazingkids]

Just ordered the msi 240r hopefully everything goes well 🤘🏽

[@PCGoblin]

Should be good. :) 🤘🏽

[@Emazingkids]

@@PCGoblin thanks, it came in and is working like a gem

[@PCGoblin]

​@@Emazingkids sweet!

[@Emazingkids]

@cry baby It’s not that loud (: and it work super great, my cpu never passes 50c and it always around 43c during hardcore games

[@PCGoblin]

@cry baby I havent noticed any noise other than what you would hear on camera or from any other AIO.

[@Sneedoss]

Ek with the bigger cold plate for the win

[@Wooskii1]

How are the EK AIOs holding up? Are they still running cool, quiet, and reliably? Or are they failing (compared to the competition)? I really want one, but I have no clue about their long term reliability.

[@PCGoblin]

I love my EK AIO, its been doin a good job and ive been really hard on it. At least one fan is dead on it for a while now and it still keeps my CPU cool. But overall my other AIO's have been solid too including my be quiet aio.

[@toonnut1]

Excellent video id like to see the ek against the lian li galahad 360

[@PCGoblin]

Ill see what I can do. :) Im glad you liked this vid

[@TheSjuris]

Going to be real close. Might be the top 2 rgb aios out there.

[@damons3939]

Great video ;) EK AIO is stunning good

[@PCGoblin]

Damon Shih Yeah its a great aio, but I wouldnt expect anything less from the reference company for watercooling. :)

[@GamersGuard]

@@PCGoblin good to see MSI 360R is at the level of KRKANE X72!

[@GamersGuard]

@@PCGoblin also - for 5800X cpu, the msi better option than coresair h115i 280mm platinum and evga clc 280mm?

[@PCGoblin]

@@GamersGuard of the bunch I like the MSI the most of those listed.

[@GamersGuard]

@@PCGoblin arctic freezer 2 360 be much better than msi?

[@MrEagle2050]

I was willing to buy MSI cooler but now maybe i will change my mind but the only thing i didn't like in EK AIO 360mm D-RGB is the design MSI in design better and the good thing is the temp of course and the warranty is 5 years what's your recommendation for i7 10700k ?

[@PCGoblin]

If you want best performance get the EK. If you dont care about having having your CPU potentially a couple degrees colder than, get the one you think looks best. :)

[@markgutierez9922]

Thanks 👍 I'll get me the EK aio.

[@Reivbv]

Its constantly out of stock :( I ordered one last week on amazon but it has not shipped yet. Thinking about cancelling :/

[@NonyMann]

Bro like i was thinking to buy msi 240r can you tell me that it is safe to mount the radiator on the top because it have pump in radiator i saw some videos where it make bubble sound when you put it on the top

[@PCGoblin]

The instructions for every AIO including this one all show it safe to mount on the top. Its just not the best way. I hope that helps. My experience is just mount it and make sure it has some air flow and you should be fine. :)

[@nottoday90]

Do you think changing the ek fans to corsair ql120 makes sense? could it compromise performance? we are talking about a build with 5600x + rtx 3080 in a case with 3+3 intake fans and 3+1 fans pushing air outside. thanks in advance!

[@PCGoblin]

I dont think itll be much of a change for the worse or better. Though you could use both for a push/pull config with the radiator and that would be good, though may be more noisy for you

[@Paul-if1jq]

I'd say no, corsair fan are loud, and you will need to rum them hard, noise wise... they are not so good

[@XxdartvaderxX]

You seem to know your stuff lol i got an nzxt 510 case paired with a msi core liquid i7 10700k temps while im gameing hover 70c or so apex gets a little hotter 80c ish but it does come down to 75's im just wondering if maybe i should look into getting a differnt type of aio or maybe thermal paste thanks this is my first water cooled pc ever

[@PCGoblin]

That could be more just due to poor thermal material between the chip die and the heat spreader on top. A better cooler may help but if the die cant get the heat to the spreader well then it doesnt matter.

[@scarox5138]

Hey man. Do you think the nzxt x53 is enough for the ryzen 7 5800x? Or should i go with the coreliquid 360? Same price in my country

[@PCGoblin]

Id go with the 360 if theyre the same price, more thermal headroom, but if you have the x53 already then i probably wouldnt buy the 360.

[@scarox5138]

Yea i will go with the coreliquid 360 i dont have any cooler at the Moment so thanks for helping

[@newline296]

Salam aleykum from UZBEKISTAN! Nice video

[@talldarkandsam]

Very informative, thanks! Also, is it possible if you could do a comparison between this AIO vs MSI's largest air cooler? It's the Frozr XL. Thanks in advance.

[@PCGoblin]

I will see what I can do, its going to be a bit though.

[@talldarkandsam]

@@PCGoblin it's okay man. No rush

[@EliasDaoud]

I have MSI 360R CPU water cooler. it is really bad quality. - Good cooling performance or efficiency, but The pump stop working after 2 or 3 weeks of idle computer (if you don't turn it on) You need to clean it every 3 months or maximum 6 months

[@PCGoblin]

man thats no good if it stopped working.

[@knightchess4287]

Hi, Just a quick question, Do you think the MSI MAG CoreLiquid 360r would be enough to cool a Ryzen 9 3900XT at 4.2 Ghz? I'm starting a new build from scratch and planning on doing a little overclocking, my first build actually. Thanks!

[@PCGoblin]

I would assume so as it does a good job cooling my i7-9800x and its alot hotter than the 3900 :)

[@knightchess4287]

@@PCGoblin Okay, thanks!

[@PCGoblin]

Anytime. However since this is a new build id recommend amd latest ryzen chips the 5800x,5900x, or the 5950. So if you havent bought or if you can return I would and go with the latest. :)

[@knightchess4287]

@@PCGoblin I haven't bought the CPU yet, but I can't seem to be able to find them in stock anywhere. And wherever I find them, They are really overpriced. For around $700. Thanks for the suggestion though

[@PCGoblin]

Just be patient, set up alerts from nowinstock.net with telegram and you should be able to snag one fairly soon. I was able to snag one last friday cuz of it.

[@mainly_dyutish9]

I am buying a i9 10850k which aio should I buy. 1.cooler master ml360 V2 2.deepcool castle 360 V2 3.deepcool castle 360 Ex with mf 120 fans 4.msi coreliquid 360r 5.lian li galahad 360 white

[@PCGoblin]

I pretty much only have experience with the MSI corliquid out of your list. But id imagine they all perform relatively closely.

[@mainly_dyutish9]

@@PCGoblin which should I pick

[@mainly_dyutish9]

@@PCGoblin I think I should get the deepcool castle 360 ex I'll get better fan as I am buying Lian Li o11D I need atleast 6fans to fill the case so I'll buy Lian Li st220 I will put it in the rad and put the stock one in the front

[@PCGoblin]

@@mainly_dyutish9 That sounds like a great plan. Im sorry for the delayed responses. :)

[@mainly_dyutish9]

@@PCGoblinit's ok at least u replied

[@Deus_Vult_]

Hey, I wanted to ask if a coreliquid 280r would be enough for a Ryzen 9 3900x? I want just play games and also wondering if there is any program that I can change the fan curve, ect.

[@PCGoblin]

It sure is. :)

[@anhiirr]

got the 240mm msi...purely bc de-cluttering RGB control...will also continue building with z490/b550 pro carbon/gaming edge wifi boards...IMO best options considering auros apps/software suite is lacking compared to ROG/Dragon center IMO.

[@PCGoblin]

Sounds awesome!

[@francisng4410]

Newbie here, just a question this is for the MSI MAG core liquid. what would happen if the motherboard doesnt support argb/jrainbow? will it still light up even though you may not be able to address/control the rgb?

[@PCGoblin]

You dont necessarily need a motherboard that supports argb but you do need something thats argb to power and control it. Alot of cases nowdays are argb, like my phanteks evolv x is argb and i can plug the fans and everything into that and control it through my case controls. :)

[@francisng4410]

Thank you, but will it still work though? because apparently I bought a wrong motherboard. It supposed to be b550m mortar, I accidentally bought b450m mortar max along with other parts including MSI MAG core liquid. I dont mind if I cant control the rgb with this motherboard, as long as it works and it lights up. btw thanks for replying

[@PCGoblin]

@@francisng4410 happy to help. But unless you can plug the d-rgb cables into something d-rgb then it wont work. :( or at least the lights wont.

[@francisng4410]

@@PCGoblin You dont need to, its my fault anyway, I guess Im gonna put it aside the MSI MAG for a while and use the stock cooler of my ryzen 5. Thank you very much for replying, I tried commenting on other channels video but after a few days there's no reponse or whatsoever, you're the only one who answered my question and offer a help.

[@PCGoblin]

All good, i hope you can get it goin sooner rather than later. :)

[@darkdragon1142]

so i feel the need to point out something specific about your testing method. the msi magcoreliquid cooler has the pump inside the radiator and in the installation guide it specifically recommends that you have it at the lower point(tubes down) as well as you should honestly be doing tubes down for any and all radiators for air reasons. just info for future videos.

[@PCGoblin]

The tubes arent very long so it limits this position itsself. However I have installed and used many many AIO's and I havent found any difference in positions. :)

[@darkdragon1142]

@@PCGoblin im sure you have and im not a pro with a youtube channel specifically. but i work with liquid chemical flow systems and theres alot of physics involved. and there generally is a reason for something to be designed the way it is. so i have a horizontal build using a Lian Li 011D case layed on its metalic side with rubber feet. i chose the MSI cooler because the pump would be lower in my configuration as a result. and because the heat spreads out it was more practical for me all around. otherwise my pump in a headblock would be the highest point in my build which can overtime hurt a pump because of the air. but with the pump in the radiator it ensures that its fully submerged 100% of the time so even if air gets in the tubes it will be forced through by the pump. i have a i7 5820k overclocked to 4.0ghz and have a constant 47-50c on my cpu without much issue. im just saying that orientation does have an effect. gamers nexus proved it when they did a plexiglass cover on the pump headblock. this was still informative in other ways, im just pointing out something to consider in the future.

[@PCGoblin]

​@@darkdragon1142 Thanks for the info. It sounds like you have an interesting job. :) Youre PC sounds very nice too.

[@darkdragon1142]

@@PCGoblin eh i like to call it danger juice cause its sulfiric acid. but more or less a glorified soda syrup changer. but yeah just wanted to share the info man love the info and the channel so keep doing you. i like the in depth details you give. and my pc...is nice? i mean it was nice 6 years ago. the new gpu makes a big diff though.

[@PCGoblin]

LOL! Danger juice. CPU's havent changed a whole bunch in the last 6 yrs, so while its old Im sure it still great. :)

[@IPoly]

Ive got an 5900x and an 360r coreliquid and thinking about buying the x73 nzxt what do you think will it perfom better cooling or is the 360r better. The cpu ive got is a monster and i dont know if the temps will get lower or stay the same since i cant really finde a direct comparison

[@PCGoblin]

Its tough to say, the msi kept my intel cpu cool really well. But the ek has always been my favorite.

[@zuezsz]

Have u have any issues with the msi coreliquid? I seen most people comment that the msi core liquid makes a loud noise from its pump, I'm planning on getting the msi 240r for my 5600x

[@tyf6336]

My pump failed within 6 months, died on me yesterday actually. Had it paired with ryzen 9 5900x and all was well till the pump died and computer shuts off due to overheated CPU. I bought the EK today. And I live in Canada so I’m doing some waiting, hope this helps.

[@NonyMann]

Yes bro i was also thinking of that

[@NonyMann]

@@tyf6336 can you tell me where the radiator was mounted?

[@zuezsz]

@@tyf6336 I heard for that liquid cooler is best to place the radiator on the front, not the top

[@tyf6336]

@@zuezsz yea… unfortunately it was too late by the time I realized they’re revolutionary design only goes in 2 places; bottom or the face, ontop the pump is bound to fail for being in the rad when it’s on top of the build, I put it on the top, didn’t think much of it at the time but yea Oh well, it got RMA’d and my ek water block looks 10x better imo

[@sebastiencollignon7913]

R U Reaaaadyyyy ?!!! Thanks for the review.

[@PCGoblin]

Sébastien Collignon love it!

[@sebastiencollignon7913]

@@PCGoblin So do I :) I'll take the MSI MAG 360r for my 3900x :)

[@PCGoblin]

Sébastien Collignon awesome! Should serve you well

[@CursedEarthPizza]

Coca Cola, Korn, and Computers. You must be my brother from another mother.

[@PCGoblin]

Hell yeah!

[@Aelron]

Which one is the most reliable: MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R or EKWB EK-AIO 360 D-RGB?

[@PCGoblin]

Dunno, I have not done any reliability testing. But both are working well for me.

[@NiGHT-vl9iy]

Hello, MSI MAG Coreliquid 360R should hold an i9-10900k OC to 5.0 GHz or higher?

[@PCGoblin]

NiGHT theres a lot of variables for that but if it cant then theres not alot that will. :)

[@experimental2540]

Bro that background music 🎵 aahh...(msi core liquid)

[@blazegame4450]

hi great video !i would like to buy MSI Mag CoreLiquid 240R but the fans make noise?

[@PCGoblin]

I wouldnt let them stop me from buying it. They dont seem any louder than any other

[@blazegame4450]

@@PCGoblin very thanks

[@PCGoblin]

Anytime

[@rajavarman8555]

Is msi 360 is enough for ryzen 5 3600 paired with rtx 3060ti? Awaiting response:)

[@PCGoblin]

That should work great for you. :)

[@texasblues141]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@hiroomi491]

Hello, I’m using intel5 10400 with Gigabyte B460M Gaming HD motherboard and which AIO would you recommend? The MSI Mag core Liquid 240R or the NZXT Kraken x53 240mm or the EK-AIO 240 D-RGB? Thank you

[@PCGoblin]

Hello, Either one should work great for ya. Run with the one you think looks best. :)

[@saquibkhan6000]

Great video

[@PCGoblin]

Saquib Khan thank you!

[@sos3703]

do u reckon the msi 360r will be enough to cool a ryzen 9 5900x??

[@PCGoblin]

absolutely

[@sos3703]

@@PCGoblin thank you so so much 💓

[@PCGoblin]

anytime

[@zychomaniac1018]

I was thinking about getting the msi coreliquid to sync up with my msi build but my mobo only supports JRGB I believe. It's an msi b360 gaming plus. Any recommendation since it doesn't have ARGB ? I might upgrade my mobo entirely bc I've ran into another issue with the ram I bought recently for it cause I didn't realize it only runs up to 2666mhz so I won't be able to maximize the 3600 frequency that is has :(

[@PCGoblin]

You might have some luck with nzxt since they go off of USB. But from what youve said it sounds like a mobo upgrade may be a good idea for ya.

[@zychomaniac1018]

@@PCGoblin which is a shame because I just built my pc just a few months ago :( oh well trial and error I suppose. I'm just new to this generation of pc builds so I'm still learning. Thanks for the help man and I most likely will end up doing that.

[@PCGoblin]

@@zychomaniac1018 ah man, im sorry

[@Gamix10]

I just bought the msi aio, and a rog Strix helios case

[@PCGoblin]

very awesome, what mobo and GPU is goin in the new case?

[@Gamix10]

@@PCGoblin At first i was only gonna upgrade my gpu to a 3060, but then i realised, that i would need to wait 1 year, in order to get it. So instead i stayed with my gtx 1660, and my i5 9400. I know, i should have upgraded, but i have wanted to get that case since the first time i saw it lol. Especially the white edition is an awesome looking case.

[@PCGoblin]

Its all good, its pretty impossible to get any GPU now so at least you already have a 1660. :) Thats a really cool case too, congrats.

[@Gamix10]

@@PCGoblin Thank you :D

[@_wee_.]

Hello do you msi mag core liquid 240r is enough to cool my i7 11700k?

[@PCGoblin]

Yes, but you wont have as much headroom for overclocking, if at all.

[@raul771]

I am going for core liquid 240mm Do you think its a good choice?

[@PCGoblin]

Itsme Rahul depends on what your cooling, but it should be ok

[@raul771]

@@PCGoblin i think I might go for upcoming 5800x

[@PCGoblin]

@@raul771 That looks like an awesome chip. Im thinking bout getting that one too.

[@raul771]

@@PCGoblin do you think this aio would be a good pair with 5800x for mainly gaming

[@PCGoblin]

@@raul771 oh yeah, for sure. It wont have as much headroom for overclocking as a 360 but it should still be great.

[@tldrinfographics5769]

I bought EK it's awesome

[@PCGoblin]

Agreed.

[@mariospanayiotou6644]

How do you control the rgb with that one?

[@tldrinfographics5769]

@@mariospanayiotou6644 The fans have daisy chain RGB cables which you can connect to the motherboard and you control through motherboard.

[@genshininsufficientrewards533]

Is ek 360 aio enough for either 10700/10700f or 5600x?

[@PCGoblin]

It sure is. :)

[@techguy7755]

Which would you recommend for a ryzen 9 5950 paired with an rtx 3080 and an asus strix b550 E gaming am4 atx mobo

[@PCGoblin]

Id do the ek, but both are great

[@ricks_toys]

Have a 5950x paired with a 6900XT in a lian li O11. On max load CPU only temps dont get above 59C with SAM and PBO enabled. On stress test with GPU max, it maxes at 67C. One thing I change was thermal paste to Arctic Silver 5 as before with included paste it went up to 87C. Config is 3 bottom intake, 3 side intake and AIO at top with top filter off.

[@PCGoblin]

@@ricks_toys Thats awesome

[@nottoday90]

@@ricks_toys what is your aio? EK?

[@ricks_toys]

@@nottoday90 yes I have the EK 360

[@TheBigsam51]

your vid makes no sense... you said the MSI got over 100C, but the highest point in your listing says 78... wtf

[@PCGoblin]

sorry for the confusion.

[@randomtrigger1378]

Im about to buy 360 coreliquid , do you guys think it will work with my 10700f

[@PCGoblin]

absolutely, theres not much better

[@muyeedgaming4942]

Please Tell Me what should I use to Ryzen 5 5600x...😔😔

[@PCGoblin]

Either brand will work great for that chip

[@muyeedgaming4942]

@@PCGoblin Thank You..😊 BTW Daily Viewer Of this Channel...😊

[@PCGoblin]

Ty! :)

[@dqdinh9426]

why dont you use an x73? I thought that one was newer

[@PCGoblin]

I dont see much difference between the two, but the x72 is what I had available.

[@matthewclemons1574]

Just picked up the msi core liquid 360 for 120 bucks. I’ll keep my eyes open for an ek though. Thanks

[@zjakdekoomen]

Just got one as well for Black Friday... how’s it going for you and what are you using it for? Also how much are you clocking it?

[@matthewclemons1574]

@@zjakdekoomen ended up returning it decided to go full liquid cooling instead. Wish I had kept it would have been way cheaper.

[@zjakdekoomen]

@@matthewclemons1574 yeah it’s not a crazy performance difference compared to some nicer ones... I paid 115 with tax bc of Black Friday but it hasn’t come in yet

[@zjakdekoomen]

Crazy thing tho actually... Microcenter has it for 170 or something... could be outdated price tag but that’s what I saw

[@damianhurtado313]

@@zjakdekoomen same , how it working for you?

[@davidpugh8772]

i'm kind of torn atm thinking about getting the msi 360 but replacing the fans with the fans i currently have (corsair 120mm pro) but i'm also about to upgrade from a asrock b450 with a ryzen 2600x to a msi b550 gaming edge mobo with the zen 3 ryzen 8+ core preferably a 10-12 core (if they'll hurry up and release it) i don't really OC my components but i want everything to run as cool as possible plus i think it'll look good in my case

[@PCGoblin]

I think youd be pretty happy with the configuration and were getting close to the AMD announcement so im guessing that will be zen3. :) Why upgrade from a 450 to 550?

[@davidpugh8772]

@@PCGoblin I cheaped out on my b450 and have been having issues with it in the last few months so figured that I would spend the money this time on a good motherboard with good vrms that will hold a steady voltage instead of bouncing around like a kid eating sugar

[@PCGoblin]

David Pugh ah! That makes sense. :)

[@davidpugh8772]

@@PCGoblin otherwise I wouldn't be worrying about it. It had been over 10 years since I built a pc and I didn't realize just how much power phases and vrms mattered my last build was a 4+2 and my current is 4+2 which is causing my cpu to throttle due to the vrm getting hot but that is to be expected with a cheap mobo lol

[@PCGoblin]

David Pugh oh yeah, definitely get what you pay for or at least to a degree. :) Im hoping they get zen 3 out for us soon.

[@DavidHernandez-ss5rm]

what is the sofware to change the color for the msi one?

[@PCGoblin]

It depends on what hardware you have but if you have an msi motherboard then you can use “Mystic light” to control. If you dont, then you have to use whatever software is available for whatever you have it plugged into.

[@tldrinfographics5769]

Doesn't that MSI have pump in the Radiator?

[@PCGoblin]

Yeah, it does

[@_chri]

I really want the x72 but the ek have more good temp help me. For a 10900k 5.2 ghz

[@PCGoblin]

Id choose the 360 ek for that. My sister is running a 9900k with a x73 and it handles it fine, it has pretty no headroom for overclocking. But im not sure thered be much with any AIO. :) So id say get the one you think looks best.

[@_chri]

@@PCGoblin what do you think about the cappellix?

[@PCGoblin]

@@_chri I hadnt heard of it til now but it looks really nice. It looks like direct competition for the EKWB AIO Elite cooler

[@_chri]

@@PCGoblin how many degrees of difference are there between x73 and ek

[@PCGoblin]

@@_chri Theyre about the same but the EK is a couple degrees colder from what I saw. Also I mispoke, she has the x72

[@salmark9080]

how does this match up to a noctua ? im scared of technical difficulties with these

[@PCGoblin]

Thats an understandable concern. From my understanding the Noctua NH-U12A. Is similar in perf to AIO's.

[@Ricochico187]

Bad testing for aio! Never ever put tubes on top by the radior and never never ever put the cooling block higher then the radior!!! U got allot of air in it and it works no more or very bad!!

[@PCGoblin]

Its no different than if it was on the front of a PC case which is also how the manufacturer says it can go so im going to go by what they said. But thanks for the input.

[@temptemp1192]

Could you test all of these with a intel cpu

[@PCGoblin]

Ill see what I can do. Do you think there will be much perf difference between them on intel?

[@temptemp1192]

PCGoblin from what I’ve heard I think it might be because of the heat spreader being different some coolers will perform better on an I9 than a Ryzen 9 Like a cooler that’s good on a Rison will be all performed by the different cooler on an Intel

[@PCGoblin]

@@temptemp1192 Intel generally performs worse no matter on their mainstream chips because up until the latest series, they havent cared much. Ive had to delid my intel chips to get them to cool correctly. Like my 7700k when it was under a full custom loop with an EK waterblock I had issues cooling it running it overclocked to 4.9ghz. After delidding it I was able to cool it at 5.1ghz with a kraken x73

[@complicated2359]

what did you do is unknown

[@PCGoblin]

Huh?

[@tonyfrunk4029]

Useless numbers with it out side a case tempes are going to be different outside vs in side donto air flow got any real numbers on this

[@PCGoblin]

Case numbers would be just as useless since every case is different with air flow