Peak Cavern - A Trip to Moss Chamber

[@Akshay-hq7xk]

This channel helps me catch a glimpses of places I would never dare to go

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks for watching. Keith

[@ekuva99]

who's here after mrballen?

[@yolandasandy2262]

Me

[@djayjohnson4155]

Me

[@Qdoggo]

Me as well. Quakando the dog

[@CaverKeith]

I had no idea who MrBallen is. I've just looked at his channel and I'm afraid it's not for me. I've been a caver for over 35 years. I go underground and film all of my own footage, I don't 'borrow' other people's. My caving videos show caving as it is, not over-hyped, or sensationalised. If that's not what you are looking for then you are in the wrong place, but thanks for visiting and thanks for the comment. Keith

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

Me

[@rosshilton]

This was one of my early memories. My father at the time was part of the RAF Mountain Rescue, and was called out to attend in a support role. I remember him showing me a diagram of the cave in the newspaper.

[@CaverKeith]

I only learned of the tragedy after I had started caving. Having done the trip to Moss Chamber and seen the scene of the incident I can only say that the rescuers have my great respect.

[@WhiteN0iz]

No way, no way, no way. You could offer me a billion dollars and I wouldn't step more than two feet into that cave. Can you imagine being one of the first to explore it, and not knowing if you'd get stuck?!

[@mikejohnston4453]

lol !

[@floraflorabunda2216]

WhiteN0iz I went down there today a short way on the tour and I have no idea how those people could do this for fun let alone for work!

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

Nobody every really knows if they’ll get stuck. Body types are all different.

[@CaspersSVT]

Well Isn’t That Kind of What Gets These People Off!?!?

[@ronaldsteele6151]

@WhiteNOiz I think for a billion dollars I'd step two feet into one. Once they see I'm in I come out and collect

[@vaibhavjoshi6319]

RIP to Neil Moss and His Family . Good Luck to You Too So . Stay Safe Forever .

[@CaverKeith]

Thank you. We do take all necessary precautions to stay safe.

[@floraflorabunda2216]

Poor guy 😔 so much bravery for those who endured all that to help him. R.I.P Neil.

[@anaixtar6793]

I was a very active caver for many years. This video re-enforces all the reasons I 'retired'--- for one thing, I like my knees and shins and muddy crawl ways burned me out. "There are Bold Cavers... There are Old Cavers... But there are no Old Bold Cavers......" .

[@CaverKeith]

I've been caving for well over thirty years which makes me an old caver but I'm not a bold caver. Thanks for watching.

[@janicesmith2475]

No, no, a thousand times no. I could NEVER go into a cave like that! Absolutely terrifying! Gives me claustrophobia just watching.

[@AngelicCAKESWIRLZEROsue3221]

Me too

[@Beardedexpat7614]

Watching the progress of the team, i cant help but try to imagine how it was for the team trying to rescue Neil Moss dragging all sorts of equipment through those tight passageways. RIP Neil.

[@mungomidge1090]

My stomach has never done such contortions, big respect to these people.

[@seanrabbitt9281]

love the vid and i love how you put a map of the cave in the video. you should a map of the cave in more videos.

[@dennismiller2fishon]

Probably your best video and it has a great story and a reminder of the dangers

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks. Fortunately incidents like this are extremely rare.

[@markevans2280]

Is there a mc Donald’s half way down ?

[@fbabdiver]

i dont know why you dont have more subscribers! the sound engineering and the music are incredible. by far! you are making the most intuitive and beautiful cave vidies!

[@CaverKeith]

+fbabdiver Wow. Thanks for this great comment. Pleased you like the videos.

[@mr.y.mysterious.video1]

Good luck to those that do it but stories like this are why you'd never get me caving. The though of squeezing through tight passages , arms at my side just waiting for the moment I get stuck, unable to breathe makes me feel queasy just thinking about it

[@markgohl2660]

As someone who used to cave regularly. Getting stuck is quite hard to do and takes either effort or in the case of the guy who got trapped here a fall from height down a shaft combined with very bad luck. I once took a guy who claimed to be claustrophobic on a caving trip. I choose a place called Great Douk which is an easy active stream passage with no tight squeezes climbs sumps or other serious obstacles but still had some nice formations. He had a good time and has a nice selection of photographs to show his friends.

[@Leprechaunproduction]

For those who want to see the shaft where Neil Moss was trapped, it shows up at 9:20.

[@MAllen-ng8pl]

How would the first person to explore a cave have any idea if there is an exit? Or if they even have room to turn around if they get stuck?

[@AthamAldecua]

Poor Neil :( Thanks for sharing

[@ronaldsteele6151]

In 2009 over 50 years later another caver John Jones lost his life in a cave called "The Nutty Putty Cave" in Utah US. The cave (entire cave) is sealed off and is his final resting place. May they both continue to R.I.P.

[@paloma4tigers]

I just watch that, so sad. He was soon to be a dad and it was looking good like hopes he will come out but after so many attempts, unfortunately he was left to stay there. Extremely sad way to perish 😢🙏🏼

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

Yeah, that story is even worse than Neil Moss's, pure nightmare fuel.

[@Huobaojiqi]

We can send humans into space and have them come back without any problems but can't rescue a single human stuck in a tight space😔....

[@GodUsopp34]

This cave has its separate lore.

[@olliesmith2402]

Looks like an interesting explore, will have to add it to my list of caves to check out..

[@CaverKeith]

It is a great trip. I can recommend it.

[@IKS-Exploration]

Excellent video

[@CaverKeith]

IKS Production (Real History) Thanks IKS. I was quite pleased with the scene in Moss Chamber where the caver comes through the pool and then the camera pans up to the flowstone formation. Sometimes things work out OK.

[@weskal5490]

Rest in peace Neil.

[@24934637]

I've experienced fear while rock climbing, mountaineering and skydiving many times, but nothing like the level of fear that I'd experience if I attempted this trip to the Moss Chamber. It's a huge NOPE from me!

[@No_Mask]

Seeing them wriggle through like that, it would be surely impossible to recover a body or even someone unconscious to the surface.

[@alexandros8361]

Thank you. Have been trying to find an account of it. Followed it when it was happening - he was hallucinating at the end as I recall. Horrifying position to be in. Wonder what he’s doing now? Regards.

[@SmudgeDiver]

Once again a great video. We were in there a couple of weeks ago :) One of the best trips and should be on everyone's to do list

[@CaverKeith]

***** I agree, it is one of the absolute classics.

[@misterx3560]

@@CaverKeith There is a tiny house actually built INTO the entrance of Peak Cavern... took me by surprise; I've been there many, many times - and never saw it b4... just the rope making equipment; so, was it just built as a little "extra" for the visitors? Beautiful part of the country, though - village of Castleton and Peveril of the Peak at the top of the (well, I call it) mountain. Wouldn't catch me in THAT??? part of the cavern though... NOT FOR A MILLION QUID!!!!

[@paloma4tigers]

No thanks!

[@rabbitcarrot651]

There was me thinking ‘this looks like fun’ and then they get to the eyehole at 5:22 and I’m like nope! That would make me panic.

[@KCCgoKartMAN]

I’m only 3:50 in and I’m terrified at the fact you’re saying there’s a worse part of this cave

[@KCCgoKartMAN]

Just got to there and I think I’ll take a one way ticket on the nope train to nopeville

[@SirNocte89]

thx for video. Thats incredible.

[@paulavery8862]

I thought there would be many deaths in caving but there's only been a surprising few over the last century and the bulk of those were drownings.

[@OQR_TC]

They're the most awful deaths when they do happen though

[@iprobablywontseeyourreply.7193]

Mike Anderson huh? That was the dumbest comment I’ve seen yet lol

[@ronaldsteele6151]

Only two that I know of that are in the exact spot they got stuck as their final resting place. Neil Moss and John Jones. Both caves still hold their remains to date

[@mrmadness2699]

Did they seal over the shaft that is Neil Moss’s final resting place? It wasn’t clear at all from the video.

[@meep9963]

@@ronaldsteele6151 Mossdale Caverns too

[@D4CBPQ]

Neil is still down there...

[@CaverKeith]

So I believe. 🙁

[@stephenclarke3990]

Even though I dont think I could handle such tiny spaces, seeing the Chamber at the end is amazing, its beyond words❗️👍🏼

[@CaverKeith]

It is pretty cool.

[@stephenclarke3990]

@@CaverKeith I think that has ti be an understatement ❗️I was like OMG its amazing ❗️

[@jenp.6682]

The eyehole part gave me a heartattack.

[@3rdeyeboxing878]

I must admit never been into caves but you make this sht look entertaining ‼️👌🏿

[@CaverKeith]

We do have great fun.

[@88Kimberly888]

it takes very special people to enjoy this type of hobbie

[@RobFarrowATV]

Cool adventure...but I'll pass on the squeeze parts!

[@CaverKeith]

Rob Farrow The only tricky squeeze is the eyehole and it is a classic caving trip.

[@friendlyplayer92]

That eyehole squeeze. Holy hell. Would think more ppl die

[@white91561]

An incredible video!

[@CaverKeith]

Thank you.

[@connorstrawn7109]

What would’ve also been cool was if they found the engraving in the rock saying RIP Neil Moss.

[@markdillon5494]

I only ever went potholing once in my life when I was a teenager on a school trip. An experienced spelunker and outdoor man took several of us into a relatively small cave system in Scotland near Blairvadach. Thinking back now I'm not sure how I ever did it. It sets my claustrophobia to peak levels. And besides I'm fatter now than I was then lol.

[@CaverKeith]

A lot of people try it once and never go again. Personally I can't understand it as I've been hooked for over 35 years! Still it wouldn't do if we were all the same.

[@larryx314]

The shaft was not covered with cement.They put loose rocks down it. Unless I'm seeing something you can literally see the small hole at the end of the video where Neil entered the shaft.

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks. I do know this now, after reading Graham Proudlove's excellent book, 'A series of short passages'. Yes, the two cavers at the end are looking down the shaft. I do hope that my schoolboy error didn't spoil your enjoyment of the film. Keith

[@mindfulness_channel7641]

So have they sealed the part where he was stuck?

[@CaverKeith]

Yes.

[@mindfulness_channel7641]

Keith Edwards so how can they look down it ?

[@AllenMacCannell]

Keith Edwards - He asked "then how can you look down it?" This was the main flaw in the video. We weren't expecting a 1 second shot of a tunnel that was supposedly sealed with a plaque. Where was the plaque in the video?

[@Luis-bo2uj]

@@AllenMacCannell the shaft is deeper and curve, you cant see Neils Remains from the position they are looking from, cause it was sealed with rocks and cement after that curve. There is no plaque, just a misspelt scratch on the rock with the boy's name.

[@carltizwaz1607]

I have always been told that Neil was trapped in the Suicide cave further up the road. It turns out it was this cave. Why is the Suicide cave called this?

[@CaverKeith]

I don't really know but I suspect it is because it contains a lot of loose boulders so trips in it could be considered 'suicidal'.

[@TheMercury-13]

I hadn't appreciated how difficult it must've been for all the rescuers just having to get to where Neil was. Great video, & very professional lighting /camera work! I kind've like hearing the cave sounds more than the music tho', if that's not too ungrateful a thing to say! 😉

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks for watching. A lot of people agree with you regarding music. Keith

[@serenegreene6984]

You guys go ahead... I'll stay here and watch the stuff.

[@darkcognitive]

That’s a whole lot of “nope” from me.

[@tonysimmons2274]

Good video, going to subscribe and you are extremely brave for doing this, don't think I would, but the only thing I didn't like was the dramatic music throughout your climb, would have been better to maybe here your thoughts at this time either in cave or afterwards when editing, but great content apart from that.

[@CaverKeith]

Thank you.

[@savroo]

@keith edwards. Watching this, how did they do it back then, they did this in pitch darkness maybe a torch 🔦 per person? I don’t understand how you can go through those tight gaps and so far from the cave opening? I caught covid 3 years ago in the first wave and watching this gave me the panic when I was finding it hard to breathe. The logistics of a rescue so far into a cave, so hard to understand it. Amazing humans can do some real amazing things, but I’d prefer to stay Mr Average lol. 😂

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks for watching. Early cave explorers used candles. When I started we used old miner's lamps. Modern LED lighting is much brighter. We also always take backup lights. Statistically caving is very safe with very few accidents each year. However, you are correct that the logistics of cave rescue are complex. It is cavers who rescue fellow cavers and in a large rescue call-out in South Wales in 2021 over 250 unpaid volunteers turned up to assist in a successful rescue that took over 50 hours.

[@Vicmot]

Can you share video or photos as far as Neils tomb is visible? To this memorial sign?

[@terencehill3972]

Nah, there's not one photo of the alleged concrete grave and inscription on the Internet. Would be a million-dollar shot, I guess.

[@nateb7130]

ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=21652.0 Scroll down on here to see pictures of his engraving

[@Luis-bo2uj]

i mean have you watched the whole video?? its in 00:09:21

[@vortexcortex6817]

That's incredible

[@CaverKeith]

A very sad tale.

[@aaaaaaaaaa97]

How sore is the body after those kids of crawls?

[@CaverKeith]

Novice cavers tend to bruise a lot. Experienced cavers can usually negotiate Pickerings Passage without any harm.

[@aaaaaaaaaa97]

Ah, you just learn to negotiate terrain better. I don't think I have to do those consistent long term crawls but I do love to see the videos. Unreal respect for people that where trail blazers in this field.

[@AllenMacCannell]

Keith Edwards - What happens if you do body building along with this sport?

[@hellnotno]

Have you seen the movie, The Descent? god, all of this gives me the creeps

[@CaverKeith]

skovacs__ Hi, I have seen the movie and I can assure you that caving is absolutely nothing like it is depicted in the film.

[@hellnotno]

so... no humaniod monsters that try to eat you if you venture too far?

[@CaverKeith]

skovacs__ The scariest things are the people I go caving with!

[@ariesbaby647]

Have u seen the last decent?

[@ronaldsteele6151]

@@ariesbaby647 yes I have and own the movie. Hard to watch at times

[@James-pyon]

How do you know you're going the right way?

[@CaverKeith]

1. By consulting the survey. 2. By going with experienced cavers who know the way.

[@andywilliams949]

I don't see the fascination in getting stuck in a hole for bugger all

[@biggtrux]

@5:30 confirms my "NOPE" about going caving. Wet or dry.

[@CaverKeith]

Hi Peter. It was only a little bit cosy/snug.

[@bushlovesska]

After watching this its no wonder people get stuck, it blows my mind that people go against their survival instintx for this stuff. No tha ks!

[@CaverKeith]

Isn't it a case of "Anything that gets your blood racing is probably worth doing?"

[@sd5458]

Dang, looking at that crevasse moss went down sure does make ya wonder why anyone in their right mind would go down that, but I guess that's the nature of spelunking. Never know till you go down!

[@CaverKeith]

Spot on!

[@CaverKeith]

@Wassup-Doc Sweet dreams.

[@dukeofnuke2446]

What boots are you using ?

[@CaverKeith]

Dunlop wellies.

[@dukeofnuke2446]

Keith Edwards ok

[@gabepeirce5336]

I'm about to have a panic attack watching them go thru the Eyehole lol. I could never do that

[@CaverKeith]

It is a little committing but it's really not that bad. No need to panic.

[@paulplatt5074]

SWEET!

[@Endymion766]

i can appreciate dedication to conservation but if people insist on caving then why not bring some tools to slightly widen the very narrow passages?

[@CaverKeith]

That would spoil the fun 🤩

[@gustavoapariciofernandez8510]

Hello! What is the name of the cave? where is it located? Is there topography? Greetings and good work!

[@CaverKeith]

The name of the cave is in the title of the video. The show cave has a website at peakcavern.co.uk and surveys can be found online.

[@gustavoapariciofernandez8510]

Keith Edwards thank you very much 👍

[@pxraid9613]

Wow that amazing

[@CaverKeith]

Oliver and me Thanks. It's a great caving trip.

[@DodgeMan74]

5:35 sod that for a lark,

[@CaverKeith]

It's just a tiny bit cosy.

[@LaurenceWilliamson]

Good

[@vortexcortex6817]

R.I.P.

[@contentdeleted3124]

The caves and cliffs is good

[@CaverKeith]

👍

[@mermaidatheart7152]

I cant even sleep in bunk bed because of my claustrophobia

[@CaverKeith]

😢

[@markevans2280]

Beautiful but deadly !

[@notdrivingaminimetro]

The eyehole gave me anxiety

[@Tomtoms-tomtoms]

My palms and feet are sweating jets 😅😅

[@CaverKeith]

😢

[@jenniferellis7419]

The logistics of filming this, who is coming in before you to film.

[@CaverKeith]

Thanks for watching. I did all of the filming during the trip. Positioning myself in the middle of the group meant that I was able to film cavers both coming towards me and moving away. I used two fairly small cameras and a combination of torches packed in a waterproof case.

[@jeffyu3838]

Did you find the body of Neil Moss?

[@TheMercury-13]

The area where the shaft was respectfully covered is shown on the video; you want them to dig it up for you?

[@Mr_SexyTime]

​@@TheMercury-13yes

[@somethingnew966]

Cameraman is everywhere 😂

[@CaverKeith]

You better believe it.

[@MariusFusariu]

Eureka - by Huma Huma

[@sunnyscott4876]

You go first...it might be dangerous 😳.

[@rickelmonoggin]

NO thanks!

[@alexandredasilva5843]

Ok. We'll take you down there someday.

[@c_b8s4]

F that. No chance id ever end up in there

[@CaverKeith]

As we say, "We do these caves so that you don't have to."

[@pns1967snp]

👍🔥😉

[@Oozaru85]

Movies like The Descent think they need to add creepy creatures into these caves, when in fact the caves narrow and dangerous passages (and what they can do to you) are much more frightening to me, than stupid unrealistic, mutated naked humans.

[@CaverKeith]

I like to think that my caving videos show caves as they really are - nothing exaggerated. Like you I'm not a fan of films like The Descent. Mind you - stupid unrealistic, mutated naked humans, sounds a lot like my caving chums! 😀

[@Enigmatt_eu]

I loved this cave! Nice to meet you btw 😁 Check out my video of Peak Cavern: kzbin.info/www/bejne/faGXkGVqqd19pLs

[@prisonmike9673]

Doing this is just so schewwwpid innit.

[@bushlovesska]

You are insane lol

[@talkinghead3169]

So, guy goes down a hole and gets stuck and dies, and others think "Hey, let's follow him" ?? Seems like a good idea!!

[@TheMercury-13]

No-one else went down that passage, other than the rescuers trying to help Neil 60+ years ago, if you watch the video the cavers are going past that area, not 'down' it. It's a very large cave btw, people used to live in the entrance where the show-cave tours start & it's been explored for hundreds of years.

[@johnscottfrasier4045]

No thanks, I’ll pass.

[@johnscottfrasier4045]

P.S. make sure to bring a lovely Pelican case w/you also. Happy cold, muddy squeezing!!!