Building our new listening room

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Pearl Acoustics

Pearl Acoustics

Күн бұрын

This video follows the steps in the design and build of our new listening room, in Tienen Belgium. With ever increasing demand from customers to hear our Sibelius loudspeakers, we have built a dedicated listening room that reflects the typical room size of many of our clients. On demo, we have a range of amplifiers that our customers can listen to, to help determine their pairing decisions.

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@kenchow8213
@kenchow8213 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a suggestion for a follow up video - do an interview with the folks at GIK on their process for designing the room treatment layout for your listening room using the REW files you sent them. I'm sure a lot of your viewers would find this very interesting.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Good suggestion. I will reach out to GIK and put it on the list. Maybe they have something already…
@MuzikSonics
@MuzikSonics Жыл бұрын
A little tip - treat the front wall with diffusion and pull the speakers out from the wall and you'll get better depth and more ambience without sacrificing clarity.
@grahamreid-lh8eg
@grahamreid-lh8eg 10 ай бұрын
Outstanding! I was dubious at first - with those reflective parallel surfaces - but now it not only sounds great it looks great. A perfect sanctuary to enjoy music!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers! Indeed, I was very doubtful too!
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432
@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Harley. The room is beautiful and your explanation of the process is terrific. Bravo!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Very much, very kind
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
@RasheedKhan-he6xx 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best ad for GIK I've ever seen and I mean that without the slightest irony. Its so clearly demonstrates how big a role the room plays in your system's performance. And most of all - its an attractive room! I could have one at home and everyone would be happy. If I had to build something like a mixing booth or recording studio at home - well forget anyone else, I'd hate it myself!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rasheed for your lovely comment, I have only just seen it.
@ThomasAndStereo
@ThomasAndStereo 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it would be a dream of mine to have a place like that to display my product.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, dreams do come true. But your place looks great too!
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics 🤗THOMAS,I HOPE YOU GET TO TAKE YOUR GALION AND MAKE A REVIEW…LIKE YOU DO IN CANADA 😁😎💚💚💚
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 now that’s a great idea, Thomas in Europe… he’ll be very welcome indeed!
@armstrongting5665
@armstrongting5665 Жыл бұрын
This is the 3rd video in your channel that I've watched. I like and have subscribed to this channel.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@filipviljamaasvensson
@filipviljamaasvensson 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice room! If I'm ever on my way through Belgium I'll stop by for a listen, or when I start shopping for speakers in that class. Not all the way there yet, but that's what's so nice about this hobby. Things grow along the way. Btw I'm very happy with my own panels from GIK, it has been a great joy tuning my room and finding the sweetspot between liveliness and clarity.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@masterblaster2626
@masterblaster2626 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ... I'm becoming more interested in properly setting up my listening area to minimize reflections. etc., and this video helps to further motivate me in that regard. Keep up the good work.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Good luck with your project.
@RA-1965
@RA-1965 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a real pleasure to watch, thanks so much! Hope to visit your room one day.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TheCharlesAtoz
@TheCharlesAtoz Жыл бұрын
What a fabulous room Harley, the way you presented it was seemingly effortless. Can't wait for your next one.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles!
@velchuck
@velchuck 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice room. Im sure it sounds great! Congratulations.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@carlitomelon4610
@carlitomelon4610 2 жыл бұрын
I say Harley, Splendid! Reminds me of my room project 5 years ago. I have a couple of Vicoustic"London" kits scattered around the walls, including the front wall. There are a couple of GIK curved abfusors across the front corners with bass traps behind them. Since I use magnepan LRS, this breaks up the rear reflection nicely. No ceiling damping required with Maggies. They radiate almost entirely horizontally. Good for lower ceilings. Good to hear how your voice became pleasant again with the treatment. Always a good sign! Belgium? Thomas lives closer! 🎶😅🎶
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carlito! Very kind. Your room sounds great. Enjoy the music
@javonazul
@javonazul Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. They really are extremely informative and detailed. I discovered your channel and I have been binge watching like it’s Breaking Bad. Thank you.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them Javier!
@ZERO-CAPACITANCE
@ZERO-CAPACITANCE 2 жыл бұрын
So inspiring, thank you so much.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it!
@ZERO-CAPACITANCE
@ZERO-CAPACITANCE 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics I went to the record store and purchased Sibelius music and biography.
@DeAudiofilosyLocos
@DeAudiofilosyLocos 2 жыл бұрын
I see that you have been busy, that may explain things 😁
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I will reach out to you very soon!
@matzeflamingos
@matzeflamingos 2 жыл бұрын
Great room- this is what I looking for
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea and job well done! Anyone with the priveledge of having the experience are surely in for a treat! If only Belgium werent a universe away for me : /
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very kind. Where are you based?
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Small town in northeast USA, just outside NYC.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@AllboroLCD well, in that case we might be able to arrange a listening session for you in New York…. Feel free to reach out to us via ‘enquiries @ PearlAcoustics.com
@AllboroLCD
@AllboroLCD 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Wow.... thank you so much Harley! My birthday is just around the corner as well and im past due for a nice day trip to the city. Will be reaching out for sure sir, much appreciated!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@AllboroLCD enquiries @ PearlAcoustics.com
@zackpetrovic3029
@zackpetrovic3029 2 жыл бұрын
Nice couch / sofa / lounge
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 2 жыл бұрын
🤷‍♂️ JUST NOW GETTING TO WATCH THE VIDEO HARLEY 😁 😎we really appreciate what you have done with your room 💯 but I don’t think I will be able to visit in person…SO LOOKING 👀 FORWARD TO YOUR REVIEWS, I also hope you can get a GALION from THOMAS…to test out your room and see how it Sounds 💚💚💚
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I hope to get a Galion too!
@imosolar
@imosolar 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome room treatment which helps me with ideas
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@paulstemp9662
@paulstemp9662 2 жыл бұрын
Wow great looking room Harley, properly done. Looking forward to some videos/sound demos from it :)
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul!
@Unker_Spunkanathan
@Unker_Spunkanathan 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video... Always enjoyed your sharing. Your presentations are kind of more artistically done than the rest of hifi reviewers/sharing videos... the visual, the content, the pace... no info overload. Lol... I understood what you meant about 'disconcerting'... That's the kind of feeling I get when I watched some of these hifi reviews😉
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very kind.
@andredevries4987
@andredevries4987 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Hartley. That is a beautiful room you got there. I have a perfect room to it is our livingroom with special treatment. My wife is oké with it and enjoy it too. I love your channel. Gr André de vries.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Andre, so pleased you enjoy my videos and so happy to hear you have a great room (and wife too) - we are the lucky ones!
@andredevries4987
@andredevries4987 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics yes we are.
@salvelegio1425
@salvelegio1425 10 ай бұрын
Dear Harley, I have to say that You and the lads have made a marvelous change in that room and that it now sounds perfect, not "dead" but soft and comfortable. Very nice indeed. I have a few questions that i would like your thougts on. 1. The placement of amps ect between the speakers......? 2. One speaker room......? 3. The importance of "Beat/on Beat".....? Looking forward to hear your thoughts, all the best
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 ай бұрын
Hi thank you for your comment. Usually, it is considered best not to have anything between the loudspeakers, and in HiFi, there often has to be some kind of compromise, especially in a listening / demo room. Unfortunately, the room is not ‘perfect’ but it’s way better than it was 😉.
@harrisedgar
@harrisedgar 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video... (room) let's hope you do a lot of content there...
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I definitely intend to make more content
@ricardocoloma-md
@ricardocoloma-md 2 жыл бұрын
Thnk you for your video sir.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Harley, thanks SO much for the video presentation of your special listening space from start to finish. I certainly enjoyed every minute ! Looking forward to what you will have for us next. ((O: Gary here, from the north-eastern seaboard of the US.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, you’re very welcome. More videos coming soon!
@garysmith8455
@garysmith8455 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics I smile.........was that reply meant for moi (Gary)? I see you wrote 'Harry' (O:
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@garysmith8455 Woops! I fat fingered your name! A thousand apologies
@spunkthecombo
@spunkthecombo 2 жыл бұрын
The transformation of your listening room is truly amazing! Thank you so much for doing this video for those considering building a dedicated listening room. The video explains how to go about taking care of problems in the room. Your before and after miking of your voice sounds so much better, it's even better than your older listening room. I really enjoy your videos, carry on! PS: would you consider making a video playing the Sibelius loudspeakers, maybe the same track of music but through several amps?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks so much for your kind appreciation. I always have a problem with the concept of recording music through a system for KZbin: a. Because they often block it. b. because People only hear the sound through their own systems and c. Because KZbin heavily compress the sound quality. But I’ll see what I can do. More videos on the way!
@m.9243
@m.9243 2 жыл бұрын
What a great little project Harley! Money well spent and, I am sure, it will be conductive for many visitors there to fall in love with your excellent speakers. I wish I could book a audition, however, Sydney Aus. is not exactly around the corner for such visit! Perhaps in my next European trip, I could include Tienen in the plan, just to hear and admire your creation, both the speakers _and_ the room. Wonderful staff!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You are very kind. You will always be welcome, either here in Belgium, or London or New York.
@jdavis234
@jdavis234 2 жыл бұрын
Great space, Harley. Giving me some ideas for my own. :) I’m surprised the Sibelius can be positioned so close to the wall and front treatment didn’t end up being needed. Nice to see.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. In fact we were surprised too at how close they can go to the rear wall without any apparent loss of image or quality. For decades, our customers have been placing them right up against rear walls and loving them. But also moving them forward is just an option because they do not need boundary walls for bass enhancement
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius Жыл бұрын
One little trick I use is placing rock wool behind art canvases,
@rndm4642
@rndm4642 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the remaster of Animals is played in there. Oh my!!!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
😉
@r423sdex
@r423sdex 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work ! Now get that topping PA5, It's insanely good.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
😃 thanks! And thanks for the tip! I will certainly check it out.
@danielgeiger7739
@danielgeiger7739 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulation on your new room! I noticed in the design some ceiling absorbers, but did not see them in the video. I also notice you have a bare wood floor between speakers and couch, where most people, including myself, would put some sort of carpet/rug down. I certainly noticed the rug (and even a coffee table now moved to the side) when I set up my room. Any comment? In the next 2 years, I have to go to Leiden and Brussels for sure, so pretty close to you. I may try to make an appointment to listen to some different amps. That would be a great opportunity, indeed! Very happy with my PLEvo300-XA25-SG combo, but curious about different amp sounds. I'll bring Swiss chocolates🙂
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel, thank you for your kind words. The ceiling panels are certainly in place and doing a great job. As for the rug, we decided against a rug because we did not want to over damp the room and to avoid the soundstage coming too far forward. How it is, sounds perfect to us now. You would be very welcome indeed. Just let us know, in advance and we’ll have music, amps and a glass of wine waiting for you! Looking forward to the chocolate 😃
@rotaks1
@rotaks1 2 жыл бұрын
Well done and congratulations!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rohit. Very kind.
@oldschoolaudioenthusiast
@oldschoolaudioenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! I hope someday to be able to purchase a pair of the Sibelius loudspeakers. From all the videos I've watched, as a life-long musician and high-end audio enthusiast for over 50 years I believe they would be a perfect choice for use within my transparent / minimalist / idiosyncratic audio system in support of my eclectic musical taste. For Harley, if you ever decide to give a pair away perhaps as part of a Pearl Acoustics marketing promotion / contest, sweepstakes, etc., please think of me first! Thanks and take care!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You’re very kind. I will certainly think of you in such a situation Alan! 😀
@oldschoolaudioenthusiast
@oldschoolaudioenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics You're welcome Harley! GREAT! I will continue to hope for good luck in this way in the future! All the best!
@Kah0ona
@Kah0ona 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video. I think hifi people could talk more about room design, very inspirational. Thanks for sharing. If i'm ever near by, I might wanna take a listen, we do have customers in your area with our company :-) who knows.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marten! You would always be welcome. If not possible in Belgium, maybe another somewhere nearer to you, wherever you are.
@Kah0ona
@Kah0ona 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Netherlands :-)
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kah0ona ok - that’s not so far! 😉
@barrybrennan2135
@barrybrennan2135 2 жыл бұрын
What a room. You can by the quality and natural, clean timbre of your voice that it will make for great reproduced sound. Do you have a favourite go to amplifier, Harley?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Barry! My go to amplifier changes with my mood snd the season! In the Summer, I switch off the Class A amps and switch to AB or class D. One of these days, I’ll make a video on my favourite amp. But I need to make my mind up first! 😉
@tothemax324
@tothemax324 2 жыл бұрын
Try moving the electronics out and off to one side, helps with speaker imaging in that space
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed you raise a very good point here. We made the compromise for practical purposes. In fact, with our loudspeakers, in this setting the central island is not causing any real issues (luckily)!
@carlosquijano2827
@carlosquijano2827 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Harley 🎉! Cool music room. I notice that the panels behind the speakers were not placed as designed. Regards.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true Carlo. We found no need for them. We tried with and without. To be fair to GIK, they weren’t sure if we needed them or not, but I ordered them to try out, just in case.
@musiclassica
@musiclassica 2 жыл бұрын
Good job, Harley! And GIK, whom i got to know thru hifi-KZbinr, John Darko from Darko Audio. You two should definitely get in contact. All best from Antwerp, Van.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏. Indeed I have a deep respect for Darko, it would be nice to meet him one day.
@cremersalex
@cremersalex 2 жыл бұрын
Tienen is famous in Belgium for its sugar refinery. Because of its sugar cubes everyone in Belgium has heard of Tienen.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
The great story is that while fighting the French, the British cut off the sugar supply to Europe (they had a monopoly on sugar) but a clever Belgian invented a way of refining sugar from beet, and the problem of supply was solved! And all this happened in Tienen, so they say!
@yournightmare9999
@yournightmare9999 2 жыл бұрын
All real audiophiles put nice rug too
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. They should only put a rug in front if it is needed. In our case, the rooms’ Acoustics are very well balanced so we do not want absorption from the floor in front of us. In real life, there’s no rug between you and the musicians. 😉
@domtomas1178
@domtomas1178 2 жыл бұрын
haha... most child bedroom's are usually 2m x 2.6m in the UK. You must be talking about the Queen's apartments in Windsor 😂
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dom, that’s the big advantage of living in Belgium, however, I think the ‘small garage’ analogy works for the UK? 😉
@andrewaajohnson7584
@andrewaajohnson7584 2 жыл бұрын
What I would like to know ! Is where can I get that sofa ?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased it, on the advice of an interior designer, in an independent furniture shop in Mechelen, Belgium.
@nicklegrand5017
@nicklegrand5017 Жыл бұрын
hi Harley, I had one question : I don't understand why you put Q7D diffusors behind de listening position.. on the side walls.. To me it seems to make more sense to put the Q7D diffusors front wall behind the speakers and put some diffusion between the speakers (front wall)...for example some panels of the Gotham quadratic diffusor? I would love to hear your reasoning. kind regards.. (nice room btw)
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, thanks for your question. I think you’re going to be disappointed with my answer. When I believe in the Competance and professionalism of a group of people, that work together in a well established company, I tend to give them my challenge and then let them come up with the solution. If the solution does not work, then we discuss. At the time we were building the listening room, I was very busy with recording projects and other stuff, so I let them get on with it. As it happens, it worked out fine. We made a few Tweaks but for the rest, nothing. So all I can suggest is that you reach out to GIK, i am sure they’ll be very happy to give you a scientific explanation. Tell them I suggested this. Hoping that helps? And sorry not to have answered your question directly
@amankarwa1305
@amankarwa1305 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely. Can you give us some more information on the rack? The legs and the plinths/shelves are made from what materials? I'd be very interested in making something similar!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Aman. The shelves were ordered and made in a local timber merchant, while the metal feet came from a DIY store. We placed little screws in the shelves that the feet of the pillars sit over, so that it is very sturdy, especially if we accidentally knock one while loading up a big, heavy amplifier.
@Drackleyrva
@Drackleyrva 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful room! They did a wonderful job. How much of an 'acoustic' difference would it make it if you had a small rug in the room---perhaps under the listening chair and ottoman?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. All rooms need some life to them, otherwise the effect is very unnatural. It is possible to ‘over damp’
@petekutheis3822
@petekutheis3822 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics yes what I told GIK--I did NOT want my small 11X12 room too sterile. We went with scatter plates on the panels.
@petekutheis3822
@petekutheis3822 2 жыл бұрын
C Sharp by EAT not ear..lol. Jozefina will be mad at ya ;) btw love my EAT C Sharp. My room is also treated by GIK. Your D-Sonic video inspires me to try Class D. D-Sonic is in my neighborhood (well 3 hour drive), but I opted for an Audiophonics from France (shipped today).
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the correction. Indeed a silly mistake
@JuanJose-wt5yj
@JuanJose-wt5yj 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and congratulations for the room. Do you have measurements without treatment vs treatment? Can you share the REW .mdat file? It is simple curiosity to see the acoustics of the room. Written with translator. Greetings
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Juan. Feel free to reach out via our website m. Take care.
@JuanJose-wt5yj
@JuanJose-wt5yj Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Thanks for answering. I will be attentive to your channel in case you make a video of the treatment with measurements made with REW for example.
@SuperMcgenius
@SuperMcgenius 2 жыл бұрын
If you are doing a new room why not make the walls or ceiling non parallel, I have done this and the cost I found worth it. 😊
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good option but wasn’t possible in this case. But thanks for sharing
@lmstefanini1
@lmstefanini1 Жыл бұрын
Do you use power conditioners in your room? I am curious about your opinion about power conditioners. thank you
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Very good question! It’s a very sensitive topic, as you know. The short answer is ‘no’. We have a pretty good power supply from the provider and the sockets are fed directly from the main board. We are not against power conditioners but decided that in our listening room the equipment must run on its own merit. Unless a manufacturer stipulates it is required but then they need to provide one. Until now that stipulation has never arisen. My rule of thumb is to reach out to the equipment manufacturers and to ask them specifically: do you recommend the use of a power conditioner with your equipment?
@hansiangng2808
@hansiangng2808 2 жыл бұрын
No treatment/diffusers needed for front wall ?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
No, we thought we might need Them and we ordered them, but the were not needed in the end. It is possible to over damp and then the room sounds flat
@Ricky-cl5bu
@Ricky-cl5bu 2 жыл бұрын
Class
@hoobsgroove
@hoobsgroove 2 жыл бұрын
what do the speakers sound like with croft acoustic amps, I got, work well don't know!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
I have not tried yet but I hope to soon. Thanks for your question
@TombstoneTube
@TombstoneTube Жыл бұрын
Harvey, I have a room with exactly the same dimensions and I have this terrible room null around 50hz. Did you manage to get rid of big peaks and nulls? Thanks!
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi, yes absolutely we did. (GIK) did. We still have small bass boost, but that only happens when standing up and near the front of the room
@yizhiyang8786
@yizhiyang8786 Жыл бұрын
HI,that's a my dream listening room could you tell me how much just for the room approximately (same size as you not includ the equipment)? thank you
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
That’s tricky because it depends how much work one does oneself. For example we have a real oak floor. The panels were around 5500EUR
@yizhiyang8786
@yizhiyang8786 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics thank you so much almost as same as my imagination i will do it next year thank you for your sharing
@totalplonker824
@totalplonker824 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable video. Curious to know... is the artwork diffusion or absorption?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your kind appreciation. The artwork panels are absorbers.
@samuelsalins8309
@samuelsalins8309 Жыл бұрын
😢How about different speaker behavior in this room.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi we built this room specifically to demonstrate our Sibelius loudspeakers. However, a well balanced room will bring out the best of all loudspeakers. Some adaptation might be needed for some kinds, like electrostatics or omni-directional. I hope that helps?
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 2 жыл бұрын
Great set up. I wonder how much the room acoustic treatment cost?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Petra, thanks for your comments. If I remember correctly, it worked out at about 5K EUR but that included two panels that we did not use in the end.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 2 жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics Surprised at that - bargain. I valued that couch at 5K EUR 😁
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@PetraKann the 5k is good not for the GIK panels and does not include the couch or the tables etc.
@markhouseholder
@markhouseholder 2 жыл бұрын
Could we see before and after curves?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest difference is the length of the reverb, more or less cutting back from 450ms to under 150. We had a little drop at around 32Hz but nothing that causes any real concern.
@andyb155
@andyb155 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as usual thanks! Great idea to provide the opportunity to demo a selection of amps as well. Did you run roomperfect on the lyngdorf and if so did that make any changes?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andy! Good question about running Room Perfect, and yes we did. Because the room is so good. The difference was minimal and, in fact we prefer it without. But it’s always nice to have. Abd the mono / stereo option is great 😉
@stepan32106
@stepan32106 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics hello Harley, do you mind me asking, did you use lyngdorf analog out with all those amps?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
@@stepan32106 yes indeed.
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 Жыл бұрын
What's the ceiling height?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
265,5cm or 8.7 feet
@Oneness100
@Oneness100 Жыл бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics I looked up the Axial modes for your room dimensions and those corner bass traps aren't really going to absorb that much. Do some research on Axial room modes, they are typically along the entire wall surface and they are the most audible. What GIK and other companies do is sell products to treat more oblique modes, which aren't as audible. I have only found one company that sells products to really go after Axial room modes and really go after the lower end frequency problems that plague small room acoustics. Also, I'm surprised you pushed the speakers closer to the front wall and don't have some quadratic defuses against the front wall and rear wall. The rear panels you have don't have as wide of a frequency range as Quadratics. Oh well. Maybe next time you'll try another brand of treatment that's going to elevate the room acoustics further than what GIK did.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi @@Oneness100 Thanks for your informative reply. Axial room modes are indeed the most important and, of course GIK is very aware of them and took them into account. They even have a white paper on the topic, they will supply it to you, if you ask, or simply visit their website. Here is a short extract: Calculating Room Modes Since it is exact, we need to know how to calculate room modes. Use the formula below as a room mode calculator for all modes, not just the axial room modes. Room Mode Formula: F = c/2 * sqrt(p^2/L^2 + q^2/W^2 + r^2/H^2) F= Frequency c = speed of sound (1130 feet per second or 344 meters per second) sqrt = Square Root ^2 = squared L = Length of Room W = Width of Room H = Height of Room p, q and r represent the mode we’re solving for in the room mode equation. If you want to know the axial mode for the room length, p=1, q=0, r=0. If you want to know the 2nd axial mode, p=2, q=0, r=0. To find a tangential mode, use 1 in 2 of the variables from the room mode calculator. So, if you want the first tangential of the length and width, p=1, q=1, r=0. Generally, as you go higher into the multiples (harmonics) of the modes, they become slightly less intense, but also occur at more places in the room.
@huangjin800
@huangjin800 2 жыл бұрын
Harley, what is the length of each speaker cable? My room is similar in size. Thank you.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
We are using 4m cable (so we can switch between amplifiers easily but, usually 3M would be fine
@huangjin800
@huangjin800 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Harley, I am not familiar with this award. Suffice it to say I have done nothing to earn it. I am sure there are many people more entitled especially existing owners. But thank you for the kind gesture.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@huangjin800 sorry the award thing is spam
@spencerjohnson8026
@spencerjohnson8026 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Decware Zen Amp and my listening room is roughly the same size. Being that I’m in the States, I can’t swing by. I’m curious as to what DB levels the Sibelius speakers will comfortably play with the Zen Amp?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Spencer, the Zen amp (as you know) is fantastic, extremely holographic. However, unless your room is very small and not too damped, it runs out of steam if you want to play at reasonably loud levels. I have ordered a Tori 5 from Decware, and hope it will deliver the same magic but with a bit more power.
@spencerjohnson8026
@spencerjohnson8026 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the response! It’s much appreciated. My normal listening levels are 70-80db and your video on, how loud does 1 Watt play, was a huge help in understanding what the Sibelius can do with just 1 watt. I also love your approach with the listening room with many respectable products and not just showing what may work best for the room. I hope to own a pair someday. What’s the best way to enquirer and understand lead times?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
@@spencerjohnson8026 70-80db should not be a problem with the Zen / Sibelius combination. It’s when you want to push the peaks over 90db that it starts to become tricky. Feel free to reach out to us via enquiries@pearlacoustics.com Enjoy your music. We look forward to hearing from you.
@scottchegg1209
@scottchegg1209 2 жыл бұрын
No ming da?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, my monoblocks are staying in my private home, great room warmers and with their custom transformer covers, way too heavy to lift 😀
@danbuffington75
@danbuffington75 Жыл бұрын
I was disappointed at the slight-of-hand with the microphones. It really wasn't necessary to not use a lapel mic for the "noisy" introduction to the room and then follow up with a lapel mic in the treated room. I can't unsee it and can't unhear it. I wish you would have been honest. Really, of all customers for any product in the world, how would an audiophile not notice?
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I am not sure what you mean? I used a lapel microphone throughout. No tricky dealings at all. That’s not my style, philosophy or approach at all.
@danbuffington75
@danbuffington75 Жыл бұрын
​@@PearlAcoustics Hi Harley. Thanks for your reply. In this video at the 2:31 mark, I can see something that I might assume to be a wireless mic unit in your back pocket, but I don't see a microphone on your shirt or lapel, or anywhere else, and it sounds like a camera microphone might have been used for your dialogue. No doubt the room echo is present, and any microphone would demonstrate the noise problem. Also, there is no doubt the echo is gone after such a superb room treatment. Continuing, at 4:24, the mic is visible and the tone of your voice is certainly different. Perhaps it's a different mic. If I'm wrong, I offer my apology. Frankly, I'm touched that you responded to my comment. Thank you for that. I sincerely enjoy your videos and have watched many of them several times. As a side note, you might link to this video from your VMV A1 review video where, at around the 7 minutes 30 seconds mark, you suggest room treatment for budding audiophiles. That advice connects these two videos nicely, for what it's worth. Thanks again for your reply.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
@@danbuffington75 Dear Dan, thank you for your response. I used exactly the same Sennheiser lapel microphone throughout. The reason why you sometimes cannot see it is because I tuck it just behind the flap of my shirt button holes. Depending on the angle it becomes visible or invisible. I use the same technique on all my videos. Thanks for the tip re making a link in the VMV video. So glad you enjoy my videos, until the next one! Best wishes from Belgium
@howardskeivys4184
@howardskeivys4184 10 ай бұрын
If you take a group of 10 experts, om any subject and ask them a specific question, likely you’ll get 10 differing opinions. This is never more true when applied to audio. So you took an empty, shell of a room, which is bound to echo/co/co. Paid GIK an undisclosed figure to ‘acoustically correct it and yes, there was a notable reduction in the reverb time. However, back in the real world, many audiophiles, including me, have to make do with their family lounge to accommodate their hifi. In many instances, the carpet, rugs, curtains, sofas, cushions and other soft furnishings are more than sufficient to ensure an acceptable RT level. I wonder, if you had not gone the route of GIK and simply carpeted and furnished that room, how close would the finished product reflect the results achieved by GIK and how much money would you have potentially saved I note you positioned your hifi rack between your speakers. This practice would be frowned by numerous, so say, experts who would proclaim that it would kill the soundstage, and destroy good imaging. I’m not denying that room treatment does change audio performance. Whether that change constitutes an improvement? Must surely be down to personal taste as illustrated when you had to make changes to GIKs work to get the room to sound more to your preference.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics 10 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment and contribution to the topic. I have made a video on how to make your own room treatments which maybe you have already seen? As you stated, there is always a compromise. The room is our Belgian listening room, people travel from all over the world (we have even had visitors from the US), so we wanted to make it absolutely as good as possible. Interestingly, the cost was not as big as i thought it would be and certainly less than many people spend on an amplifier. (It cost about the same amount as a PassLabs Int 25. and the result was (with my sincerest respects) way, way more than could be done with some carpets and a few rugs. See my other video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5K8fY2meNl4pa8si=GT8df8s7BUQriwzI Putting equipment between the loudspeakers is again a compromise to allow our customers to easily hear and see the amplifier of their choice. Plus we do have a wonderful soundstage with all the instruments nicely spaced and in great detail. You’re always welcome to come and have a listen! Best wishes from Belgium
@howardskeivys4184
@howardskeivys4184 10 ай бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics thank you for your response. It’s appreciated and respected. I will relate to you a recent experience that guided me to my current opinion. I recently visited multiple ‘bricks and mortar’ hifi retailers with the aim of upgrading my trusty British integrated amplifier. For every audition I took with ne, that trusty amp. I requested that all auditions were performed blind. Easy to do, because I am! Without exception, regardless of electronics further down the chain, the speakers being employed or the acoustical listening environment, literally within 15 seconds of any track commencing, I could unquestionably identify my amp. This must surely indicate that room acoustics aren’t the dominant influencing factor that manufacturers of room treatment claim it to be.
@howardskeivys4184
@howardskeivys4184 10 ай бұрын
@@PearlAcoustics 👍
@pigkachiuahaha2176
@pigkachiuahaha2176 2 жыл бұрын
hi friend,Your youtube contents about gear review are really impressive. May i have your collab email? wann invite you to test our new bluetooth hifi speaker.
@PearlAcoustics
@PearlAcoustics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Feel free to reach out to us via our website.
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