Peco Bullhead Track what exactly will run on it? Liberty Junction Ep57

[@stretchedits]

Hi Dave, yeah good work on the Bullhead track. It's code 75 rail so the same as the Peco Finescale track, but is Bullhead and has correct sleeper spacing. I have code 75 and everything runs on it fine. Old stuff say Triang Hornby with the course flanges or maybe Lima, not tested, which has large deep flanges on the wheels might be a problem. I think it's mainly the wheels with deep large flanges which have problems, as the bottom of the flange ends up running along the top of the sleepers. Anyway I think most of your stuff I have seen on your videos will be fine. All the very best Dave.

[@doubleodave]

Yeah I think it’s the vintage type stuff that’s going to have any issue isn’t it. Happy New Year 🥳👍

[@stretchedits]

@@doubleodave Happy New Year to you too.

[@Proper_Chuffed]

Dave, 2k 🎉 what a treat before the end of the year mate. Well done and well deserved, still easily the best hidden gem on KZbin. Cheers for the comprehensive bullhead test 😅 but based on how you put it together, I’ll stick to code 100, you can keep your finescale snobbery. Great update mate and happy new year

[@doubleodave]

Haha hey I tell you what mate it’s actually going down quite a treat 😆 I’ll be running trains on it within a few days I reckon cos I don’t piss around 🤣🤣😆😆👍 One day someone will discover me and I’ll be on Disney plus like a modern Thomas and friends 😜

[@bpresolve]

Thanks, Dave. Your Robert Arm Made my Christmas. Still smiling. Bill from Western Australia, I wish you all the best for the New Year. At the club, we call it the Hand of God. By the way, 37s Rule.

[@doubleodave]

Haha Cheers Bill glad it made you smile! All the best and happy new year 👍

[@melkitson]

You don't need a Landrover you need a good old fashioned Metro! Nice episode Dave. You have some wonderful shots and as always the commentary is superb. See you next year buddy. Take it easy.

[@doubleodave]

Cheers Mel yeah the Metro could do those hills easily 😁 👍👍

[@Cromptonman]

Seasons greetings Dave 🎄 Always look forward to your bonkers videos…but you could have knocked me down with a feather when I learned we were to get a science lesson 😮 I put on my best white overall and borrowed my mates thick rimmed specs to look extra clever 🤓 Best science lesson ever..couldn’t believe the auto grab you have produced! Just shows latex had more than one use 😉 Looking forward to more bullhead talk…Im about to embark on buying in quite a bit once I have sold an organ or two!

[@doubleodave]

🤣🤣🤣 I unfortunately wore the auto grabber out using it to polish my Christmas veg 🤣🤣🤣 Have you had a go with the bullhead yet? My god the connectors are like 1/4 the soze of the code 100 stuff 🤯

[@Cromptonman]

@ not tried it yet Dave…just nipping out to pick up my fiddle yard baseboards this morning. I’ve cheated and had them made, although I’ll be making the middle and top boards myself. I’ll go and take some lessons in patients and mindfulness before I tackle those fishplates 😂

[@duncanrhodes4778]

Another treat of a video, thanks Dave. Nice testing with that bullhead track. Incredible progress on LJ2, which you acknowledge is mainly due to your impatience. That’s good news for the rest of us! Also, you make a good point about some of the eBay prices for rolling stock, might as well buy new a lot of the time. All the best for the New Year pal, I am really looking forward to more OODave videos.

[@doubleodave]

Yeah I can’t resist getting cracked on mate, to be fair it’s bugging me not being able to work on it as the family is all at home 😆 Happy new year pal 🥳

[@ModelRailwayShed]

Great job Frank, Get well soon DAVE New years eve soon reach for the lazers you party animal! Good luck for when you get the new 3D printer and Happy New Year to you and your family.

[@doubleodave]

I won’t need luck Deano I’m hoping you’ve already mastered them and are going to play a game of “file sharing world championships” with me 😃👍 Ps. I’ve been reaching for too many lasers haven’t I? 🫤

[@doubleodave]

And Happy New Year to you and your lot too 👍

[@Pugragger]

well deserved our Dave, your content is reyt good pal

[@doubleodave]

Cheers Me Old 🍺👍

[@medwaypeninsulaMR]

Hi Dave - All the best people have their birthday in January and that portal is a thing of beauty !! All the best for 2025 - Cheers Kev

[@doubleodave]

Isn’t it just Kev!!!! The portal of dreams 🥰

[@doubleodave]

Happy new year 🥳

[@Andrew-mb8xp]

Interesting idea that you knoews. At least all your wagons n such will run nice. scenery first.. why the hell not, hope it works out, looks like it is so far. Hope you have a smashing new year. looking forward to the next one...

[@doubleodave]

I’ve got the track now so to an extent I’m gonna revert back to standard way round ish 👍

[@Andrew-mb8xp]

@@doubleodave either way, am looking forward to seeing this develope.

[@going2thedogs]

Hi Dave, Great news on the 2,000 subscribers. 👍 When we refer to old stock it is typically the old Lima models that has deeper flanges on the wheels. Probs up until the mid 1990’s from memory. Hope that helps. Colin.

[@doubleodave]

Yeah I think I’ll be ok with it all now - was a bit worried over nothing it would seem 👍 Ps those joiners are small aren’t they 🤣🤣🤣 😬

[@MichaelDavies-pg8td]

Nice video Dave.The class 37 is the of the most beautiful locos ever made.As for your scenery I did mine the same way,cardboard angles rammed full of paper and either paper or plaster bandage over the top.Happy New Year to you and the family.

[@doubleodave]

I fully agree with you mate they’re superb aren’t they! Happy new year matey 👍

[@WayneAtkinson89]

Top video as allways 37Dave, even spoilt us with a bit of science!!😳😳 Nice to see the progress on LJ2, I’ll bring some proper locos to test it once you’ve finished it 👌

[@doubleodave]

I’m taking preorders for the robot arm if you want one - I can do OO (my arm) or N gauge (Libbys arm) £800 + vat + postage + £60 new year tax

[@michaellowe9744]

Happy and healthy new year to you and all.A bit technical this one but still excellent.Can I take my protective glasses pal.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

[@doubleodave]

Happy New Year matey, I’d leave the glasses on for a good hour afterwards then you should be ok to take em off! Happy new year pal 🥳🥳🥳

[@paulspick7304]

Hi Dave Really enjoyed your layout updates and running all the best for 2025

[@doubleodave]

Thanks Paul 👍 happy new year 🥳

[@GarthDavies-cd5oh]

The main problematic rolling stock when it comes to code 75 rail would be the Lima models as their wheels were quite course .With these help is at hand as replacement wheels are available and I have replaced some carriage wheels .

[@doubleodave]

Ah that’s all fair enough I don’t buy anything that old so all good 👍 happy new year pal 🥳

[@IronHorseRailways]

Well done on 2k subs Davie boy, took me three years to get to 2k 😂 Keep on cracking

[@doubleodave]

Cheers Craig, I think I’ve now collected up most of the model community that are prepared to watch such nonsense and silliness so probably won’t ever get to 3k 🤣🤣 Happy new year pal 👍

[@josefbuckland]

Good. It works the plaster stuff I was never impressed I have been on the foam board and hot wire cutter never looked back. Sculptomold where I live takes weeks and months to dry. The foam cut shape paint scatter static can create a hillside in minutes not hours. Otherwise top tat as always. Bull head make sure you curve it to test as well. My 150th appears next Friday with a surprise addition. Stay safe and good luck with the three dimensional printer.

[@doubleodave]

The foam stuff is decent and quick but if you drop stuff on it I find it damages that bit to easily. Sculptamould does take forever to dry and if you get impatient and paint it too early I find the paint doesn’t adhere good enough. I did the hot wire cutter stuff previously too but I find that a bit restrictive with what I had. Will have to see how it all turns out I guess 👍

[@josefbuckland]

@ well you gotta stick with what makes you happy. I’m sure that bullhead will look quite the Sir Elton. I did a short featuring a landy trying to get dopey out the way of a cattle crossing just nabbed the audio from crocodile Dundee. About to buy my first accurascale a little hesitant since I have really only heard bad things but hoping there Deltic will be a right toffee.

[@DarrenLewarne]

2000 subs! Nice 😊

[@doubleodave]

👍😃👍

[@AshWeir]

Seasons Greetings Dave, congratulations on reaching 2k subs 👏🏻👏🏻 Got half a dozen of those Accurascale wagons, great value. As I said last time, liking the bullhead track, and for me the rolling stock seem to run quieter and smoother on it! 🤔

[@doubleodave]

Absolute bargains they were I know I’ll regret passing on that deal 😬😬😬

[@HighFell]

Only 2000! This is one of the most entertaining channels on KZbin! The lady robot hand is reet proper, very model railway. Anyway, bullhead rail, is it worth checking across points and crossings? We don’t have this issue in TT:120 so I know nowt! On the sculptormould stuff, have you tried making your own? Dead easy, cheap as chips (technically much cheaper) if you need me to make a video on it, let me know, then you can do it and more people will see it 😉

[@doubleodave]

Haha that lady’s arm was fat betty from the cafe😁 You could make a video on it pal but I’d prefer you to make a hardback book then I could ask for a book for my birthday 👍 (I’d still watch the video) Ps - don’t want much do ya points and crossings tested too! Next episode bullhead loop the loop testing ! 😵‍💫 Cheers pal happy new year!

[@HighFell]

@ okay as I also have a birthday in January, I’ll make you a special Birthday video of how to make cheap sculpting moulding stuff. Ahhh fat Betty’s arms are legendary, I think she is what they call an influencer in social media world. I can see why robot people wanted it. Perfect railing every time….. impressive

[@doubleodave]

She’s Tom Cruise arm stunt double too apparently

[@HighFell]

@@doubleodave if she did the legs as well he wouldn’t need the box to stand on. Is Tommy Cruise that hairy though? Maybe it’s a bit of CGI too. Decent pies

[@TheWoodlandhoBo]

Merry Christmas dave

[@doubleodave]

Merry Christmas 🎄👍

[@DYLINGTONMODELRAILWAY]

Well done, Frank. Nice work operating the robotic arm. I'll tell you something, Dave it looks very realistic doesn't it...cheers James 😁👍

[@doubleodave]

It’s very noisy though mate but it is only version 1 after all 👍 Cheers James Happy New Custard to you and Dylan and the fam 👍

[@DYLINGTONMODELRAILWAY]

@doubleodave Hopefully, improvements will be made for version 2. Best wishes to you and your family for the New Year. Are you venturing to the Doncaster show 😁👍

[@doubleodave]

Defo 5050 😺

[@little_britain]

The PECO bullhead is cleverly made with half the rail buried on the sleepers, and no chairs on the inside, so even pizza cutter wheels can still work. Right clever really.

[@doubleodave]

Sounds clever but reading this makes me want a coulple of slices of Italy’s finest 🍕🍕😋

[@Shauniboy1984]

Merry christmas matey, usually anything made before early 2000s might struggle but really just turn each over and glance at how deep n wide the wheel flanges are, youll soon realise ifany look really chunky/wide/deep compared to everything else youve got. The worst is steam locos really, that might struggle. Well done on 2k subs. Ps it was probably me giving you 37/47 stick 😂. Cheers Shaun

[@doubleodave]

Haha well the postman arrived a few minutes ago with the new ones 🤣🤣🤣 I’m gonna stop buying them now for a bit as I want to crack on with the build so need the spondoolies

[@philandrews5686]

Did Frank get double bubble as well? Nice! 👍🏻

[@doubleodave]

No I waited until the 27th to avoid the extra costs 👍 Happy new year!

[@tonylarkin7564]

G'day Dave congrats on your 2000 subs.Have a Great 2025 Mate.🎉🎉 Great content and you're still a Madman..What is OLD ??? Great question .Can I order a pair of Robot arms to help clean the track..Cheers Mate..Regards Tony

[@doubleodave]

Good those robot arms aren’t they 😆 happy new year!

[@stephendavies6949]

One can never have too many 37s. It's this fleet that's obviously the reason for attracting 2,000 subscribers. Congrats. PS: My old Triang Jintys wouldn't run on that bullhead track, as their wheel flanges are too big. Mind you, they won't run on Hornby System 6 from the mid 1970s either...

[@doubleodave]

Yeah I think it’s the triangle era stuff that’s going to have the issue so I’m all good 👍 My two new 37s arrived yesterday afternoon 😇 just need some decoders

[@PondersEndModelRailway]

nice video, I think "old stock" refers to pre 90s stock and I'd suggest they are referring to the locos . and run what you remember or actually like yes eBay is getting very stupid for pricing

[@doubleodave]

Fair enough I always think of rolling stock with stock rather than locos, I don’t plan on getting any too old locos so hopefully won’t have any issues 👍

[@krazytroutcatcher]

The stock that wouldn’t run on code 75 was the pre 90’s stuff, the crude Hornby flanges bumped over the chairs. Back then, if you wanted detailed stock, you had to to re wheel with Romford, Gibson, or Sherman wheels, then buy or make your own detailing, cutting and shaving loco bodies of moulded in details, which were also often out of dimensions, Hornby teak coaches were notorious for that. Modellers are now blessed with some very fine stock, being able to take them straight out of the box and run, without any jarring toy like aesthetics. When I put my new Accurascale Deltic alongside my Lima Deltic, I actually wonder how we tolerated it, it’s junk.

[@doubleodave]

Only thing is back in the day you could go into a model shop and get a rake of 20 cheap wagons for £30 I wish we still had those prices 🤣

[@Fred-Wilbury]

All the best to you Dave for the new year , congratulations on the following you’ve got but do as I do post crap and only every few months and your subs will soon disappear trust me it works 😂anyways good one Dave 👌😎☕️

[@doubleodave]

Thing is Fred I think there’s real subs and pretend ones so I only care about the real ones 👍

[@DaventryParkway]

Top production as ever Dave, I can’t really help as I’ve only got new stuff myself but it all runs brill on Peco bullhead. 😉 When can I take my white coat off?

[@doubleodave]

I should give it a day or so pal 🥼😆

[@chugwaterjack4458]

Thanks for the show on bullhead. I found that my Peco points MUST be laid perfectly level across to work well, but when that is accomplished, I am happy with both the medium and large radius turnouts. One challenge with both Peco and Legacy bullhead track is the thin sleepers. It is very challenging to me to get ballast off the sleepers without exposing the underlayment. First, let me comment that all but one of my locos, diesel and steam, run fine on bullhead. Older Lima wagons with pizza cutters don't. Also, I had to replace quite a few Hornby coach plastic wheel sets with new ones from Peters Spares, set to proper back-to-back. My Accurascale Royal Scots Grey Cl. 55 hates my bullhead. Out of the box, it would short on every Peco point, but fortunately, the stay-alive carried on through. Heard a LOT of clacking from my Digitrax box, though. Correcting the back-to-backs, using a DCC Connection gauge cured that problem (It was a brutal process as I absolutely cannot get the keeper plates off the bogies.) The next problem was any slight vertical curve, and I do mean slight. The rigid second axle would allow the lead axle to rock up and derail. I did a great deal of track adjusting, filing, re-aligning, and at two locations adding guard rails for 75 mm, so MOST of the problems went away...until...crossing a high bridge with guard rails (inside the track) it jumped off and dove to the floor. The cosmetic damage was significant, but the biggie was that one bogie came disconnected from the power train, so now frozen, just drags. Back to Accurascale for repairs, and that is a big deal from the U.S. Also, it randomly slows, stops, and reverses, where NO other loco does so. I am so frustrated by this Co-Co that I may never buy another Accurascale loco - and I haven't even started on the Siphon G problems and fixes.

[@doubleodave]

Mate… I’m not gonna sleep tonight now I’ve read that I’m full of worries about my Accurascale stuff 😆

[@chugwaterjack4458]

@@doubleodave I'll keep you advised as to results. I hope I don't have a $300 static display to sit at the back of the TMD.

[@doubleodave]

Hope not pal

[@ChobertonJunction]

'Biggerness' is it a word? It is now. Always a blast watching your videos I just giggle all the way through. Good question about old it's all relative really in the end although a deep flange is a deep flange and that will be the issue no matter how old or new the modelling. Have to say that so far as a bullhead user I have not come across anything that could not run on the layout. Mind you not got that much to run on it to start with lol. 37's are defo delicious seems that you, Hylt and myself covet them and don't know why! As for Scultamod it did go bonkers so I resorted to Finishing Plaster and Sand and it really did the job fine. Have a most excellent and prosperous New Year and see you in 2025 possibly Grosmont, you never know.

[@doubleodave]

We’ve got the 37 bug haven’t we 😂😂😂 Are you up Grosmont/Goathland way Tony? I plan on going to the Doncaster show so realistically that’s a 50/50 as I was 90% up for the NEC and couldn’t motivate in the end 😂😂😂

[@ChobertonJunction]

Dave won't be Grosmont way for a while yet but will drop a line when I am we may meet up yet. I plan on attending a few shows this year but like yourself best I can really do is 50/50, commitments beyond my control.

[@JerseyBill-x9r]

Let me start by saying congratulations on reaching 2000 subscribers plus and I only see more coming in the future. Sorry to hear about the elf infestation and they are still using double edged Gelets, lol. I added a pocket protector, hard hat, and steel toed boots to my ensemble and I'm ready for the LAB. I have two of those robot arms, but they are getting very old so I might be interested if you will be selling them 3D printed ones and maybe steer me toward a Frank. I had a calculator in my pocket protector and used it to determine you are 46 years old, so you are almost the same age as me only 26 years apart, lol. My birthday is in January also, so nothing changes. I find if you are having problems with car flanges just change the wheels and hope you only have one of those cars. Loving what's happening with the new layout so have at it. Great video and Happy New Year, Jersey Bill

[@doubleodave]

Isn’t it rubbish having a birthday in January when everyone’s skint and everything in the shops is junk that people didn’t want at Christmas 🤣🤣 I tell you what JB you’ve got a supernatural gift of age guessing 🤯😆😆😆

[@colwichjunction3366]

Another long one DoD…. Might have to view this in two parts. I’m just wondering whether to go code 75. I’ll get back to you on this one…. Merry Christmas John b 😎 (always got a hard hat on standby)

[@colwichjunction3366]

Paused at 6:46

[@doubleodave]

You’ll have to keep the hard hat on until you get to finish it 😁

[@megamanmuppet]

Great layout Dave - what is the tune @18:05? Cheers from Melbourne, Jim

[@doubleodave]

Haven’t got a clue I’m afraid Jim, some Jazzy Drum and Bass tune I had playing in the room 🤣 didn’t realise I’d left that in 🕺🏼💃🏽

[@steelbird1]

Congrats on 2000 subs, although it's criminal that you don't have more for the entertainment value alone. The returns process is ridiculous. If you can get away with not sending them cremated pets, they do make an excellent ballast when mixed with PVA 😂.

[@doubleodave]

And authentic wagon loads 😺 👍👍

[@presidentxd]

Dave iv gone digital.santa got me a sound chip for one of my 141s.they be irish trains. Can you recommend something better than the hornby select I have as its really not a great bit of kit. Cheers Dara

[@doubleodave]

I had a hornby select to start with, they’re very basic aren’t they. I use a Z21 with I pad but those powercabs are really popular - and cheaper. He’s a good un is Santa, you’ll like Dcc I reckon 👍👍

[@t147han]

Two notes.If you have old stock.Turn loco upside down.on power and hold flat file across wheels on 100 to much for 075 .if rolling stock .you have to change wheels.Also bullhead is not pro tipical.It comes in flexy track which is used on curves.Sleepers are closer together on curves.601 mm in real life.Also closer on fish plates.To be pro typical they should have made flexy track smaller spacing.And a set track for the straights.Also all main lines bullhead had been removed in sixties and replaced with concrete.If you want to be a little more typical.Buy code 75 stream line.Use flexy on curves.And make alumium jig to set sleepers holding them together with small strips of masking tape.when set remove tape.I also cannot believe the price they want for a bit of plastic and metal.

[@doubleodave]

Yeah the bullhead is just for the upper section then I’ll be running concrete sleepers further down 👍

[@ausfoodgarden]

Hey, can you send me a transcript of the video? I put my PPE on like you said and I couldn't hear you with my ear protectors on.🤣 Seriously though, it's only the really old stuff like Triang with the massive wheel flanges that will cause you grief I think. I run locos and wagons from the '70s on code 83 track without a problem. (I don't have any code 75 yet) Happy New Year mate. Cheers!

[@doubleodave]

🤣🤣🤣 yeah I was panicking over nothing. Now I just need to worry about those tiny fishplates! Happy New Year! 👍

[@hollyruston2444]

Early 1980s Lima stuff runs like a dog on code 75.

[@doubleodave]

Ah that’s ok I don’t get any locos that old 👍👍

[@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway]

Code 75 is an excellent choice

[@doubleodave]

Absolutely Steve, I’m not regretting it 👍

[@dinmorejunctionmodelrailway]

@doubleodave I was hoping to use my rewards points in part payment for another class 50, but they can only be used for new orders, not pre-orders. Time to cancel and reorder.

[@doubleodave]

Seems a bit nuts having rules for reward points that you’ve earned