Pecron E2400LFP Vs Pecron E1500LFP - Which Battery Backup Would You Choose?

[@todd.parker]

Super in depth testing, great stuff. I like the new load tester but the chicken cameo is my favorite part of the video. I want more chicken content Jason

[@Jasonoid]

The chickens are always trying to ruin my solar charging tests! haha

[@katers22]

Todd, I've thought about taking you up on your advice and starting my own chicken channel. Stay tuned. This is Jason's wife btw 🙂.

[@todd.parker]

@@katers22 Awesome! I'm sure it would be popular

[@katers22]

Thanks for the in depth review and for all the time spent into making this video! 👍

[@garagejim1956]

Another informative review. Nice to see Pecron is not shy with DC ports available power. Thanks Jason!

[@Jasonoid]

The DC port on the E2400 is very impressive! All brands need to offer that!

[@OUFan2]

I believe all larger power stations should have at least a 150 volt dc solar input. Just makes paneling so much easier. Liked your video.

[@Jasonoid]

150v minimum!

[@woppini]

this thing smokes the jackery for the price. Nice review btw!

[@Jasonoid]

Jackery is a premium product line so they will definitely cost more

[@RustyMisterTwo]

They will certainly smoke your house when their cheap Chinese insides go up in smoke after a year or two.

[@ernieschatz3783]

Everything smokes Jackery for the price.

[@i_LOVE_solar]

Thanks for the video! I appreciate your thorough testing!

[@shelley131]

I've always enjoyed their products but past experience with customer support left without the desire to purchase anything further from them. Glad that they are going to finally pick up the tab for shipping. Great in depth testing of a product as always.

[@fscottgray9784]

I love the pricing and features on the E1000 right now. I have one and a couple of E3600s.

[@Jasonoid]

I'm looking forward to finishing the testing on the E1000!

[@twloughlin]

The DC side is spot on with Pecron, and one reason I really like their products. Your thorough DC testing is also unique and commendable. Thanks Jason!

[@Jasonoid]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm always looking for additional tests I can run on these units and improve my testing!

[@voodoo36x]

As someone who has been using the E1500LFP since it debuted, 'upgrading' to the E2400LFP has been eating at me. Jason, this video is exactly what I needed to help make that decision a bit easier. Much thanks!

[@Jasonoid]

What do you think? You gunna wait till they come out with something better?

[@voodoo36x]

@@Jasonoid // probably not. The 2400 seems like a solid option; at a fantastic price. I live full-time out of my Jeep so weight and size are critically important factors. The 2400 appears to meet most/all the criteria I find important......no reason to wait for the "next big thing".

[@WiseManSolar]

Thank you for your honest and unbiased in-depth testing! The DC output has me intrigued! 30 amps is perfect for what I need. Interesting fan noise, I don't think it would bother me though. I also would have loved to see the 150v/1200w solar charge controller on this model....but how many people are going to be using that many solar panels in a portable application?

[@ronbridegroom8428]

It would be nice to see a 48 volt output as that then could be used as solar input to other solar generators. For example, if you have a main unit for house backup tied into a transfer switch, like the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra. If you have extra solar panels that you cannot use with the Ultra you could use it with a solar generator like this then DC to DC charge the Ultra though it's Low Voltage solar port at night. I know, kinda of a weird scenario but I can see cases where this capability would be useful

[@Gravitational234]

Hi Jason, great to see a measure of how efficient AC charging is, not the most efficient though. Many people are charging up when prices are low so this is useful info for them. You measured DC at 1845wh over 14h15m = averaging pull of 129 watts. I would expect that to be at least 90% efficient. But what about at the high 350w-400w load how efficient is that? I would be presently surprised if it was still around 90%. I have a feeling it will be less. The DC is after all 48-54vDC to AC then back to 13v DC. The shorter runtime isn't going to save much power (unlike AC) because the DC parasitic draw is so small.Thanks. Your reviews are much better than most on you tube. If a review is worth doing it's worth doing well. 👍 cheers!

[@Jasonoid]

All good questions! Thank you!

[@warrior9086]

Nice review. With the customer service tel number and 3 year warranty they are really stepping up their game. Finally a decent DC capacity with 30 amps and at 90% efficiency I think this is good quality Over all finally a power station that can handle all the off grid situations in automatic mode... plug and play > set it forget it and for a reasonable price. A few minor things like the battery capacity, the fan not an issue and not a deal breaker. Yes You are right. The 1200 W charge controller from the 3600 and this would have been the perfect match to have sufficient off grid capacity for this class. The battery size is enough to get through the night but then next morning You have to have enough solar capacity to run high loads and recharge the battery for the next night. Well, let´s hope they come up with this model. Of course there is the 3600 but it´s just too heavy and not practical in many of my situations. Anyhow that is a lot of power station for the money

[@Jasonoid]

I hope they put the higher voltage charge controllers on the future models! The E3600lfp charge controllers work well!

[@warrior9086]

@@Jasonoid1200W-150V. I consider that a good size. Give it or take.... that´s somewhere in a range 5 - 8 kWh per day depending on time of the year and location.You add on an extension battery and something like a Honda 2200.with an extension tank. That´s 1800 W continuous and You have a very good system to cover the basics 365 and all plug and play. No skills and tools required. Add on an induction cooktop and a Diesel heater. Now the world looks different. Of course there is bigger but most don´t need more.

[@johntate5284]

Great price! Great 12 DC section! The inverter is okay but pretty inefficient, especially when compared to the 95%+ that Bluetti has achieved in their Elite 200 V2. Where they loose a few points though is only one PDP 3.0 100 watt port where most of the competition has 2 or even supports the PDP3.1 standard of 140 watts (EcoFlow). But that price is killer! Looking forward to their upcoming split phase all in one! Thanks for a great review:D

[@Jasonoid]

I'm kinda more excited about the new E1000LFP and yes, the F5000 too!

[@Gman-26]

As always….good review!

[@Jasonoid]

Glad you liked it!

[@ernieschatz3783]

I wonder what your dirty EMI gadget would read from a Bluetti AC200P. If I place that unit's input side against the metal wall of my truck, the unit fails calibration check on startup...presumably because EMI gets reflected off the wall and into the pickup coils used for measurements.

[@barneslandcare]

The whirling fan noise is a big deal for me. It's so loud I can hear it even if I'm in another room, away from the machine. And I'll note that the fan seems to run on about a 30 second cycle, if powering smaller loads, say up to about 200 watts. So, that Pecron Squeal happens about every 30 seconds. I really hate it. Also, I could never use these things as a UPS, for say a home office or anywhere I'd be in close proximity. When plugged into the wall, with or without the inverter turned on, there is a very loud mosquito-like buzz that is just insufferable to me. I'm also on my 4th e1500lfp, all of them have had issues with the unit losing power before getting down to 0%. I've had them stop power at as much as 54%, and anywhere down to 5%. It's not a calibration issue, as I've completed charge/discharge cycles multiple times on every unit. Luckily Pecron has been decent to work with and has so far replaced the machine every time. Still, I'm not satisfied with having to deal with shipping back and forth so many times, waiting so long to receive a usable unit.

[@Gravitational234]

Are you using the e1500 with very small DC loads, eg router for extend periods? Some PS don't measure small loads very well and the SOC gets messed up. You can think you have 50% left and the PS suddenly drops to 0, yet charging back up only takes what 50% would take. Seen it a few times on 1-2kwh ones, even the big brands.

[@HorseRadish403]

Get the ecoflow delta 3 plus. It's super quiet

[@barneslandcare]

@@Gravitational234 no this happens using AC, loads anywhere between 80-200watts. Anyway, I'm giving it one last shot, if the fifth Pecron unit doesn't work well I'm going to start writing negative reviews everywhere I can.

[@robertlueke3238]

Hmmm...other reviewers of this product achieved >90% AC battery capacity. Otherwise, the only thing that would stop me from buying this product is the solar input limitation. C'mon Pecron, we need 12 - 150V solar inputs. The 12V/30A DC output is awesome.

[@Jasonoid]

Yeah, not sure why this one didn't provide more AC capacity. Maybe I should complete two tests and average them out...

[@Gravitational234]

Would actually be good to do a test at say 20% and 80% of the inverter rating to get a better idea of capacity and run time. A few reviewers on you tube just max out the inverter which isn't really a sensible test because very few people will uses a power station from 100% to 0 at 100% power and it's not actually the least efficient like they claim. Very Low power use is always going to be the least efficient.

[@mannyfragoza9652]

ah that tone on the amp test sounds similar to the beginning of that song Dream Weaver.

[@Jasonoid]

That noise was coming from the fans 👍

[@mannyfragoza9652]

@@Jasonoid interestng

[@NatureZone101]

Great review, but do they actually answer that phone number?

[@F3hunter-2024]

Very comprehensive review, thanks! A couple percent on the run time more/or less IMO, is negligible (Real world use will vary). Fan noise/inverter noise is not an issue in my use case. But....and there's always a but :P. As you mentioned, the only real possible downside I see to this unit is the 90V solar cap. I would have liked to see this increased to 120-150V. It's a bit of a pain trying to get the voltage setup in series to take full advantage of that 90V cap. As you mentioned, the 3600 has a 150V cap which is perfect. Other than that, I believe the unit hits it target audience.

[@Jasonoid]

I would love the higher voltage solar input too, but at least it's not a 60v system like most other brands! Haha

[@Bamabrute85]

This guy tests 😮

[@stevelee6667]

Good Video.

[@gojeffgordon24]

I thought you had some bird get into your testing area when you did the interference test! haha Never heard anything like that from a power station. I would get this over the E1500LFP, but honestly I would be trying to stretch to the E3600LFP if I needed something close to the 2,400 watt size.

[@AKadir-lc5wu]

Want to see Pecron F5000 review..... Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩🇧🇩

[@Jasonoid]

For sure! Should be coming out in July!

[@conradcoolerfiend]

video is on point

[@Jasonoid]

Thank you! I'm always trying to find new ways to test these units out!

[@RustyMisterTwo]

Still using windows 10 in 2025. Time to upgrade Jason!

[@Jasonoid]

Meh.... I only use this machine for this UPS testing LOL. 🤣👍

[@michaelfoster3441]

Pecron is the true budget power station with fantastic performance, I can't wait for 2025 model , that does 240 vaults .

[@Jasonoid]

The F5000! Yeah, that unit is pretty exciting!

[@andrievbastichy8551]

what panels are those?

[@Jasonoid]

Renogy 200w flexible panels mounted to an aluminum frame, I have a video back about a year about the build 👍

[@grindychum]

They dropped the ball on the solar chargeing. The AC200MAX is 3+yrs old and does 900w on solar. The fan noise or as I call it "the Pecron Squeal" - both my E1500lfp do it. The most intriguing part was Pecron is finally going to cover the shipping on sending defective units back, but will they continue to instruct you to cover the UN3480 battery label on the box.

[@Jasonoid]

The Pecron Squeal! I think that's a good way to describe it!

[@sojourner57]

Nice review. I ended up sending mine back: Too noisy. I ended up using those funds to purchase a 7000W inverter generator, which will better support charging all of my power stations in bad weather when solar won't cut it in an extended outage. They also removed the wireless phone charging station on top of the unit, and no area light is included. Shame.

[@Jasonoid]

Thank you for the valuable feedback!

[@tomthompson1198]

which is better? pecron e5000

[@Jasonoid]

Still yet to be released! Ha maybe I'll get my hands on it in July.

[@jasonbroom7147]

Given how competitive the market is, and how prices (including per/wh) are dropping, should your grading points be updated to reflect that? Also, did you do 2 or 3 AC discharge tests, to see if maybe there was a temporary issue with cells being out of balance? Maybe after a few cycles you would get more capacity? Stranger things have happened! :)

[@Jasonoid]

I am considering reworking my grading system into the 3.0 version. It will be much more strict to follow the latest trends. I'm thinking of the following changes at least: -Pricing below $0.75 / $0.50 cents per wh -140w USBc port requirement -UPS cuttover below 10ms -Fan noise below 50db (this is extremely rare) -heated batteries -high DC output of 180w (instead of 150w). This is not a full list of changes but you have any other recommendations?

[@jasonbroom7147]

@@Jasonoid - Those look like very good updates to the grading system, given various market trends. It's fascinating how much competition there is in this space, and how much content creators like yourself have driven major improvements for consumers.

[@DYT-jx4jp]

@@Jasonoid Each grading sheet version has awesome. Thank you for putting your test results "together"! A thought or two on the future revision: - perhaps some classification of type of unit's use. By this I mean I'm using my Jackery and Ecoflow units for portable home backup. I don't have a need for the "DC 12v" too much versus someone who does have the need for much better "DC 12v" output options. I'd buy a B grade if it was the "DC 12v" difference from an A grade. - the above point and past thoughts get me to wonder many criteria on your grading sheet are core but perhaps some are more like bonus ones that give bonus points to - I get the "DC 12v" needs. Even though I don't have a high need for this, I would like an XT60 output connector vs the cig version or an addition to the cig version. Perhaps upgrading the "DC 12v" output connector could be a new criteria to score. - okay, this is already too long. But, Thanks for your efforts!!

[@EfficientRVer]

I guess $0.40/Wh is better than the old-days price of $1/Wh for a power station. But now with LFP batteries available under $0.10/Wh, my own answer to the question in your title is neither. The dividing line (mainly in Wh, but also in W for anyone caring more about that, which is generally a mistake) between what I'd use a power station for, and what I'd use a battery and personally-chosen components for, is smaller than either of these. Somewhere in the 300-1000Wh range. I can see how for some people, the dividing line would be at a larger size than for me. I just think that people who don't even consider having a dividing line where they shift gears to a component system, and are using a power station for everything from phone charging to home power backup, are at least throwing away money, and probably also getting a compromised solution which will be obsolete long before the batteries die. A boom box is only the ideal solution up to a certain size, where you really should go to using stereo components, whether you're able to choose them yourself (maybe by copying other people) or need to have someone design you a system.

[@Jasonoid]

I have not been happy with the larger DIY systems. The interfaces are horrible and are not intuitive. The fan noise drives me nuts! Once you try out a large DIY system I think you'll feel the same. Smaller DIY systems arent bad.

[@tronziebit]

Lol chicken disrupting test and testing the Pecron unit...😂

[@Jasonoid]

🐔🐓

[@peterryan7340]

We need this in Australia

[@Jasonoid]

You guys don't have a huge selection out there! Im surprised since your close proximity to China!

[@peterryan7340]

@Jasonoid I think it is due to our voltage and frequency, also our outlet style.

[@danielkarczewski2467]

I have Oukitel 2000 , how does that compare to the Pecron E2400LFP ?

[@Jasonoid]

You can compare both of those models in my grading system!

[@Bamabrute85]

Oukitel is pretty reliable and will suit you well in an emergency but doesn't have all the bells and whistles as the pecron.

[@danielkarczewski2467]

Thanks it looks like a good deal at that price.

[@wbbags]

Their website seems to be down?

[@Jasonoid]

I was able to get to their website just fine.

[@ernieschatz3783]

"Same" but larger battery and inverter...? I'd say that's pretty different across the board including the weight🙆

[@ericlee4326]

Can you please review the Oukitel 5000p 2200 watts?

[@Jasonoid]

That unit is quite outdated now.

[@gman1868]

But it's only $800 ! Compared to the other names, they are a fantastic deal :) How fantastic? I just bought one!

[@indysbike3014]

Can it charge below 0°C?

[@Jasonoid]

The only power stations that can charge below 0F have internal heaters. Here's the list: EcoFlow DPU Bluetti AC500 Pecron E1000LFP

[@unixfg]

Consider four wire measurements if you want an accurate Wh reading

[@Jasonoid]

I'm using 10 AWG wire to pull under 10 amps, shouldn't be getting much voltage drop to throw off the results.

[@ernieschatz3783]

I'm hoping DJI comes out with a power 2000.

[@andrewmarshall810]

Did you try customer support? No answer.

[@Jasonoid]

9am to 5pm ET, already the weekend...

[@InTheDirtAgain]

Grrrrr.....they did away with the 30a RV plug. No!!!!!!! If it had that option, I'd buy it. Right price, right size, wrong options.

[@Jasonoid]

This adapter will give you the 30amp plug: amzn.to/42szxC5

[@InTheDirtAgain]

@@Jasonoid Mehh, not the same. I have one already but really wanted this to include the right plug. I guess I'll stick with the Oupes brand, but I really liked this price.

[@johnmal5975]

I would choose niether one. I will stick with my E2000, E600 and E3600. Reason I can charge those 3 with solar. It's their strongest selling point and they severely downgraded it with these two models. Huge disappointment!

[@Jasonoid]

The solar charging on these units can definitely be improved! (At least it's not a 60v controller though)

[@ernieschatz3783]

Are Pecron owners called Pecron heads?

[@Jasonoid]

I'm not aware of any official names

[@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk]

I’d go straight to the 3k mode L

[@Jasonoid]

E3600 for the win!

[@panagiotisorfanos5246]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😉😉😉👏👏❤️❤️🫶🫶🫶👍👍👍

[@guychou9505]

Je veux passer commande svp

[@Jasonoid]

You can find that on their website 👍

[@leshenderson5746]

Dose ANYONE make one of these that tou DON'T need a damn smart phone for ???

[@Jasonoid]

Yep, the DJI Power 1000 is one without smart app connectivity 👍 Same with the Oukitel BP2000