Pedal Builder REACTS: Inside a King of Clone by 68 Pedals (Analogman King of Tone Comparison)

[@lonecrow1577]

I bought a 68 pedals KOC. I have never played or heard the AnalogMan in person so I have no way to compare the two. All I can tell you is that i'm really happy with the pedal. Sounds great. Thanks for the review.

[@bcm1621]

Excellent video. I've had mine for 4 years and it is a fantastic overdrive.

[@EpicSwedishFika]

Thank you for posting Tone Geek! Videos like this help a lot since it is hard to evaluate pedals only on sound reviews without you own guitar and gear. Cheers!

[@boyan.guitar]

Thanks for taking the time to do this, really informative :)

[@guppy270]

This was super instructive and helpful, thank you. I just got the Demonfx clone yesterday and everything looks the same inside.

[@putzengiler]

I just a new one today , the only difference I noticed immediately was mine doesn't have the gold series caps at 4:08 , they are small vertical black caps at C9 and C15 , it did however have the same small green caps next to either trim pot, cutting corners already ! maybe I got a clone of a clone ,lol! sounds good though, so far...time will tell.

[@tomasjones3755]

THx for the vid. I bought the 68P version, a few years back; very happy, with it

[@TheToneGeek]

You're most welcome! Glad you like it too!

[@Mr.Steve-O]

Thanks for putting this together, would be great to see a side by side of this one and the Demonfx King of Drive

[@TheToneGeek]

On it!

[@fireworx_925]

@@TheToneGeek How is the comparison to the Demonfx King of Drive?

[@TheToneGeek]

@@fireworx_925 I don't have personal experience with a DemonFX however it looks to be identical. I think they might be using 1N4148 diodes like the new KoTs do

[@rafsgouvea]

@@TheToneGeek I got one DemonFX clone and the Diodes are different… sounds great… but different …. instead a 1S1588 there’s a diode with a big “H” write in blue and duble blue strips (Vf=0.54)… and instead a MA856 there’s a in blue stripe diode (Vf=0.745)… soon I would like to compare head to head the DemonFx and the Ly Rock KOT Clones…

[@TheToneGeek]

@@rafsgouvea thank you for sharing your insight And input! Great info!

[@dustinarnold79]

I have one of these exact ones and damn it sounds really good with a tube amp

[@gingerale08]

Interesting! I just ordered the 68 Pedals, before seeing this 😄 if they have the right diodes in it it’s crazy value for money. I also ordered the Pedalpcb Paragon pcb and some MA858 diodes. From what I read Analogman uses MA858 plus 1N4148 in newly built KoTs. Will be really interesting to see how similar they sound!

[@tnoam]

Great video. Thank you. I would love to see one in the CE2 clone that 68 pedals make. Break it down for us the same way

[@mikyor1]

Nice. I believe 68 pedals used ma858 (double stripe) and the ma856 are single striped but they sound the same

[@TheToneGeek]

Ah interesting! Thank you for the insight! I'll look into that

[@mdsutherlin1]

King of Tone's have a nice ground plane on the PCB which improves the Signal-to-Noise characteristics. Some of the clones have a ground plane and some don't. That seems to be the biggest difference I can find.

[@bobrankin6048]

i got one 05 order 17 delivered wow fast delivery from china it is sweet got to go play some more

[@ClaudioMartella]

Demonfx has now a duellist clone, would be nice to have a look at that

[@austinfailz]

For anyone that wants such a thing, this clone appears to not have the charge pump to get the pedal to 18v like the AnalogMan. That may or may not matter to you.

[@vminator]

The 1uf caps are coupling caps in this circuit.

[@arnaudnoar3345]

Good morning and congratulations for your video, the only instructive one about 68pedals! One question: is the 2 way switch a ss12d00 or d10? By the way, I did buy the whole 68 pedals they all sound phenomenal, highly recommend his inkakola zendrive clone, my top 5 in my overdrives collection, his Timmy, it's Centaur,divin, and it's reverb, clone of mad professor......Sorry for my french English...🥂

[@vaporettos]

Thanks to you, I sanded the screw holes and saved my day. It was making a terrible noise when I removed the input cable, was driving me crazy! Thx a lot. Keep it up!!!! ❤

[@TheToneGeek]

Wow nice!!!! Thank you for your kind words!

[@mattgilbert7347]

Thanks for this. I'm not happy with my current KOT clone and have heard good things about this one. Cheers.

[@mr.k905]

Thanks!!! What a great idea for a KZbin series! Would love to see more pedals for sure : ) Subscribed.

[@RouvenKasten]

I have a 68 sitting around here and I'm on the KoT waiting list. But now I'm not sure whether I should wait or just delete myself. See so many comparing Videos now, hear no difference.

[@redlespaul8139]

I’m about to order the demonfx version that looks identical to this. Good video thanks

[@Mr.Steve-O]

I as well, I really wish someone would step up the plate and do go guitar demo with it, I can't find anything really decent, if you have a link please share the link here, thx

[@dinosoarskill17]

I just got my DemonFX in, is it the same quality components as this?

[@synthguy4558]

fightmeirl Yes.

[@dinosoarskill17]

@@synthguy4558 Nice, I only got to mess around with it for an hour or so last night so far, but I have really been liking all of the, what feels like, endless combination of tones I can get. So cool, especially for less than $70

[@danielcgomez]

every once in a while guys over on TGP post about how long the wait list is for a KoT. I got on the List back in Oct '18 (if I remember correctly), so i've got a bit of a wait. Maybe a year ago I made the absolute biggest mistake to respond on one of those TGP Threads saying pretty much that aside from being on the wait list, I decided to buy a PCB from Queen of Bone, and build a couple for my own use. I was tagged by Mike himself, where he made all sorts of aggressive sideways comments about me building clones of his KoT to sell ...I corrected him(how dare I) to say that I have no intention of selling (as stated in my original response in the thread). He came back with some of derogatory statements ...I then got a 'warning' from the Moderator about copyright infringement ...and within hours BOTH of my responses, nd Mike's disappeared, along with the PM from the moderators. LOL ...it really cracks me up seeing all these clones all over the place. Great job on this video Ryan!

[@corynorell3686]

If the guy doesn't want people to clone his pedals, make more damn pedals - no?

[@Tomislav_B.]

What was the name of the thread on TGP?

[@danielcgomez]

@@Tomislav_B. it was one of the many 'how long is the wait list' threads ... It's been a while, so it could be any of those

[@Tomislav_B.]

@@danielcgomez Things get there heated pretty quickly. I never saw Mike loose its temper before, I'm sorry I missed that shitstorme lol!

[@danielcgomez]

@@Tomislav_B. Yea ...and I'm sure he's losing his shit with all these 'clones' now, lol

[@asplmn]

When I had a Convo with the builder (at least for mine) on eBay a year or so ago, he mentioned he had purchased his parts through Mouser, and used quality manufacturers such as allen-bradley, pannasonic, toshiba, nichicon... After taking a look inside, I don't have any reason to disagree. It's a great pedal -- esp for the money

[@TheToneGeek]

Interesting!! Thank you for sharing

[@6StringPsychedelic]

Just ordered this bad boy. Almost bought 2 lol Just sounds fantastic, fender amp is in the shop and trying to get a non compressed sound on my marshalls.. My old OCD broke and my others just dont seem to stack without compressing too much

[@TheToneGeek]

Nice!!! Enjoy!

[@realledbetter5015]

How easily does a Fulltone OCD break? Not the first time I’ve read on comments that an OCD pedal failed. I have a V3 (Rico) but I use it sparingly & I bought a Chinese knockoff that sounds great. When I like a pedal I try to buy 2 in case one fails also. I thought I was getting carried away. I guess I am lucky or don’t play as frequently but I have never had a pedal stop working. Can the OCD be repaired or it will cost as much as a new pedal?

[@6StringPsychedelic]

@@realledbetter5015 the full tones are quality products. I used it a lot and I know at some gigs it got a little dirty and wet, may have even spilled beer on it lol. I’m sure it can be fixed, the power cuts in and out and it’s the ac Jack not the cable. Also when clicking on, it does that half volume thing until you click it a few times just right. I got back into playing recently and the pedal on this channel has fully replaced the OCD for me. I even bought te new germanium ocd and a klon clone but this pedal is still staying on my board. For anything beyond I’m currently using the fuzz from the octafuzz.

[@realledbetter5015]

@@6StringPsychedelic Thanks for taking the time to answer. I had a feeling that you were a gigging musician. Electronics & moisture do not mix. Also dust can be problematic & cause output issues but is probably easier to correct as long as you can get at it. I agree Fulltone makes nice products & got a bum rap when people were boycotting their products because of politically incorrect comment by the company founder. He just said what most people feel, doesn’t want his stuff stolen & wants to get paid for his work!

[@Bairov]

Wut!? Higher gain switches on both sides? Smart. I wonder if it affects the sound of the pedal?

[@Justinbpierson]

I’m on the waitlist. You can give it a try whenever I’m up.

[@TheToneGeek]

Thanks bud!!

[@vimvim8805]

Had both - sold the original. It´s that close! Clone is at least 90% of what the original is. Sounds very much alike. Feels a little less dynamic/more compressed/touch sensitive, but very little.

[@ClaudioMartella]

I d say more than 90%. Perhaps the clone is missing a bit of low mids.

[@castleanthrax1833]

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the differences between the Kot and these clones are no different than if you took several originals, and tested them against each other.

[@christophorhill2320]

Nice job, sir! I formally request that you do one of these on the Ethos TWE-1 pedal from Custom Tones...and if you can find one, the Keeley 1962x. I own a TWE-1, and would love to see your take on either unit.

[@TheToneGeek]

Thank you!! I need to setup a PO box for borrowing pedals for a video lol. I'll keep an eye out for those units!

[@scottthompson2255]

Just got one of these after a brief affair with a Prince of Tone, which I hated (it sounded like a fizzy Tube Screamer). It'd be great if you could make a video dissecting a PoT to suss out once and for all why it has such a dramatically different EQ response than the KoT. Thanks for the great video!

[@TheToneGeek]

I'll try to get a hold of one! Great idea!

[@calebwhitcraft1664]

Yeah, I replaced my 68P King of Clone with a PoT, and after a week I switched back. The EQ was dramatically different to me and I never got on with it.

[@BeefNEggs057]

Have you seen the rullywow queen of bone. It’s a pcb only kit. Sounds great! Aren’t the ma856 diodes only for the highest gain setting on the dip switch. If my memory is correct (built more than a year ago), Most people’s use no clipping boost setting into the mid gain setting so the highly sought expensive ma856 don’t even get used. I could be totally wrong so correct me if I’m wrong. I’m just a paint by numbers pedal builder (occasionally).

[@TheToneGeek]

This is true about the clipping!! I built one of the queen of bone 2 boards and I am very happy with it and being 18v internal charge pump is cool too. I will have to try it against this 68 Pedals to see what that 18v does

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@TheToneGeek Cool do it! Love to hear your thoughts.

[@toddzino58]

I believe the 1S1588 diodes are high gain and the MA856’s are soft clipping. I built the RullyWow. Great board. I used the 1S1588’s but used BA282’s instead of MA856’s. Measured pretty close.

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@toddzino58 Yeah sounds right based on my memory. The 1S1588s are still pretty cheap (or were when I made it). Think I used a TI FD20 or something like that instead of the MA856. It was something small bear recommended as a substitute. It is my favorite OD pedal. Put it at the end of my OD chain. Just perfect tone. It was my first pedal so the soldering is terrible but those cold joints add tone lol. Very good kit and directions.

[@TheToneGeek]

@@toddzino58 awesome!! Super cool you measured the diodes as well! I bet that they are pretty close sounding for sure. Do you remember what yours measured?

[@gloryman3634]

Have your done an analysis of the LY-Rock pedal that you picture at the outset of this video....I assume that it will be pretty much the same as the 68 Pedals unit. Thanks

[@uptownphotography]

Hello again. Follow Up Question since I first commented last night. Have you ever done a comparison with the DemonFx "King Of Drive" version? Looking at the components they look very similar as to what you show here in the video. Thanks very much. Phil NYC Area

[@TheToneGeek]

Hi Phil. I have not tried that specific version. DemonFX pedals seem to be hard to ignore for their component selection and price point so I have no doubt it's something to check out

[@uptownphotography]

@@TheToneGeek Thanks for your reply and info. I would buy one of the 68 Pedals Clones (even though they're more expensive (about $45 more) than the DemonFx), but it seems the 68 Pedals brand all ship from China and I can't find any for sale shipping from the USA. Not sure it matters, but I always had stayed away from overseas shipping because it's more complicated with returns, etc. I am searching for one in Canada or the US. No luck yet. (I see you have a website...Going to check it out!) Phil NYC / Jersey Shore Area

[@albertomunoz7931]

@@uptownphotography I just ordered KOC on ebay 2 days ago. I will keep you updated on timeline and if the product was exactly as described.

[@uptownphotography]

@@albertomunoz7931 Great let me know. I did order and receive a few days ago the DemonFX version (King Of Drive Pedal) and I have to say it sounds really good. I was worried, but I can say it really sound's great with my two tube amps. Let me know how your version sounds as I would buy that version too. Did your KOC ship from China? I can't find a USA seller. Thanks! Phil

[@albertomunoz7931]

@@uptownphotography Yes. My order was from China. I almost purchased the DemonFX version but this video swayed me because of the components. I believe you can order from US on Reverb. It will cost you $160 vs $100 ( what I paid on Ebay).

[@mojostrat58]

Could someone tell me what the 2 White Plastic Phillips Adjusters do? (there's one on each side of the Dip Switch...) Thanks for any assistance...Doc

[@TheToneGeek]

Those are the trim pots for "presence"

[@PrayWithUsNow]

Dude, don’t you have a link to the authentic one?

[@SixStrRzr]

I wonder if this will run on 18v (like later KOTs that have a 25 v rating on the 2 electrolytic caps between the white treble trim pots)? Some older original KOTs were made with 16v ec's- these pedals can't run on 18v. Also, are the 2 sides in series, red->yellow?

[@Place_to_keep_videos]

It’s max at 12V. Any higher will fry the caps.

[@anthonybenyola9095]

Excellent video , good luck I know you'll be successful with your pedal clone

[@uzieleliud]

Esa es la ultima versión de analogman?

[@jamesenter2095]

I bought one when they first came out. It sounded amazing but the build was terrible. Lots of scoarch marks on the board. The right side died and I got a new one didn't sound the same. It was from the 68pedals guy. The internals didn't look the same. I took a flier after the import ban softened and got a good one again with a good build quality. I dont think I would order another one given the miss rate

[@DetroitAnalog]

The pedal sounds beautiful. This guitar player is so talented, he could make a fat waitress with buck teefus sound good HOURS before last call. But I'll bet the 68 Pedals King of Clone pedal can make any level player sound much better with repeated use. ;0) This should be a template for KZbin demonstration videos going forward. Not rushed, no unimaginative talk by the artist doing the demo... Don't TELL us how great fhd pedal j, SHOW us its capabilities in real time playing and varying the positions of the knows. Well done, fellas. I'm sold. Starting my set-aside fund to buy one relatively soon. Isn't that what these demos are about? Good on ya. Be well. TK

[@uptownphotography]

Well done and interesting... Phil NYC Area

[@jeffvargo1068]

King of Clone by 68 Pedals mine had no chip sockets.. I can't experiment with different chips...without taking the whole pedal apart and replacing the chips with sockets......MAJOR JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JohnShalamskas]

Socketed op amps for the win! I blew up a 4580 when I unplugged a cable while running cascaded gain into the poor KoT. Replacement was simple and I already had a spare op amp on hand. I have tried out numerous op amps in my KoT and ended up keeping the JRC4580 in the red side. The 5532 was an interesting chip for gain tone but overall the 4580 sounded best to me. On the yellow side I finally settled on a $4 Burr-Brown 2134. It had the smoothest distortion products when overdriven. The runner up was the cheaper $1 CA3240.

[@henriquecorreia9917]

you must try the Demonfx (Mosky?) version... it's cheaper, but is the same quality?

[@dustinarnold79]

Only thing I can compare it to is the kot in my fm3 but hot damn it sounds good especially with the left side as a boost

[@DavidEidelberg]

How is the Demonfx King of Drive? It looks the same, but cheaper.

[@glenndodd5443]

I have one an I really like it. I have a Mosky with demon-fx on the PCB. I would not be surprised if 68pedals is also a rebranding of them.

[@DavidEidelberg]

@@glenndodd5443 I got the King of Drive and it has great sounds. But with a battery, the pedal turns on without any cable plugged in and the battery drains.

[@synthguy4558]

David Eidelberg Hey, good point! I just got one of these, and didn't notice this, but it's true. An easy fix would be to wire the black battery lead to the ring connection of the input jack, so unplugging the input cable would shut off the battery. Thanks for pointing this out. (BTW, I got mine for $62 shipped, and got it exactly a week after ordering)

[@dinosoarskill17]

@@synthguy4558 Same for me with price and shipping.

[@ampgent]

Great video!

[@MrFuzzyBoss]

The Prince of sound from DemonFx is pretty dam' good too , and made in China as the orignal Prince of tone.

[@david_heryanto]

Hope you can make video like this for simplifier clone from ly rock. Its called tone monster amp

[@kingVibe111]

Really good video.

[@jdiesel9048]

Cool video, thank you! You should check out the LY Rocks Ceres 3-channel pre-amp. It sounds ridiculously good into my Tech 21 powered speaker. It reacts to my playing like a real amp does. I'd be curious to know what is inside and why it sounds so awesome.

[@arnaudnoar3345]

Hi, be careful with lyr pedals they're using CMS a lot!! I own all the 68 lines , they're like boutiques unit, only analog !!

[@calenmoerman]

What a great video!

[@robertsapin5074]

Are you built by ryan?

[@frogpedalspreampsguitars8215]

Good overview!

[@TheToneGeek]

Thank you!

[@billdibacco]

This is so great for electro-heads and thoes who like to be or think they are! lol... I love the detailed examination and comparason of each component and hardware. Really cleared the fog of imposter components and so on.. Through the demo's and comparisons and now this, it really made my mind up on which one of these units to buy.. (excluding the overpriced real one) I want this one you have.. But I have been looking at and am going through their add's on Ebay and the pictures are confusing, some have the have the two switch and some do not... Confusing.... Wound you be able to shed some light on which one you examined. Pedal 68 production of the KOT. I really want to make sure I end up with the exact PC and components you laid out here. Excellent job by the way! thank you so much !!!

[@Evilmusician4_2]

Great vid ! could you do a Timmy -Jan Ray comparison those are suppose to be clones as well !

[@TheDistortionPrinciple]

How's your delay pedal coming?

[@TheToneGeek]

Really happy with the reception!!!

[@bryanmoseley6533]

Is this the same as the lyr king of clone?

[@TheToneGeek]

Yup!

[@bryanmoseley6533]

@@TheToneGeek Sorry Just after asking that I looked at mine and I noticed that my Lyr pedal Doesn’t have the switch on the bottom left side. So you don’t have a switch between high and low. Unless I’m missing it somewhere else.

[@bryanmoseley6533]

Sorry in your photos it’s bottom right side!

[@TheToneGeek]

@@bryanmoseley6533 now that you mention. I believe the early ly rock clones did not include the switch but the new ones do. Thank you for following up!

[@bryanmoseley6533]

To the un trained eye the one you have looks much more like the pictures of the demonfx version. How important is that switch?

[@masonlewisdiesel]

haha, anyone notice the Fluke multi meter rip off? thats funny! kinda ironic isn't it?

[@christopheranderson2100]

Yup, commented on it too. Was like the first thing I noticed, having paid stupid money for a crappy multimeter than I bought it a hurry because of the yellow.

[@brandonvaughan4236]

Can the clone operate with v18?

[@TheToneGeek]

In theory, yes. All caps are rated 25v+

[@brandonvaughan4236]

@@TheToneGeek Thank you! Great videos. Subbed.

[@riklionheart23]

According to the maker (the real one??) I bought from, yes it can. I have been powering it on 18v for the last 2+ years of use with no problems.

[@EricWeilerMusic]

Where did you order the pedal from? Looks like the best place is ebay and they are all from China.

[@TheToneGeek]

That's exactly where I bought it from. It came surprisingly quick too

[@EricWeilerMusic]

@@TheToneGeek thank you! Gonna check this one out!

[@Delayshop]

Please do a react of DualGun by Demonfx (clone of Kingtone The Duellist)

[@Delayshop]

SSS by Ly-rock ( Vertex clone) will be great too! 🎉

[@Mr.Steve-O]

yes, would like to see a guitar demo of the DualGun as well, if you have a link please post here, thx

[@Delayshop]

@@Mr.Steve-O I searched but I didn't find anything either!

[@TheToneGeek]

I never even knew about the Dual Gun! Super cool!!!!

[@darklight4815]

I could almost buy one of these good clones cheaper than I could build one...it does suck for the original builder of the 'real' pedal but that's just how the electronics game goes...it pushes them to be innovative and build more unique circuits...look no further than EQD ,they have some of the most unique circuits around and have no problem selling pedals.

[@TheToneGeek]

Great points! Cool thing with EQD is they are cool with sharing schematics and such it seems (based on how many EQD things show up on pedalPCB) so I think you're definitely right. Need to keep pushing new and innovative things to stay ahead.

[@castleanthrax1833]

Yeah, but as the KoT is itself based on the Marshall bluesbreaker (I believe) it's not exactly original itself, and there's always going to be knockoffs. I don't think the clones hurt analogman anyway, judging by the waiting list. I'm on the list but I'm not sure if I'll buy it when I get to the top, as I already have one of the clones (Joyo king of kings) which cost a quarter of the genuine thing.

[@sneifert1968]

Sold me.

[@roni1934]

Interesting what this machine beautiful

[@corynorell3686]

On ebay, the only listings I see have different colored wiring. Found a Reverb listing for one by 68 Pedals that had the same colored wiring. I assume people are making clones of this clone. How do you order one of these; is there a certain seller on ebay that lists - for want of a better phrase - genuine clones?

[@Paulmccarthy6801]

You should do a video on the wish centaur Klone in gold from us dream. It’s like 35-45 bucks. There’s some reviews on here sounds pretty good.

[@-thirteen]

Do the thunderdome from 68? Thanks for the video

[@christopheranderson2100]

I find it amusing that your multimeter has copied the yellow color of a Fluke in an effort to trade off their reputation. Fluke have sucessfully sued for this in the past, and I have somewhat fallen for it myself. I own a real Fluke now.

[@lemmy8284]

Nichicon FG is not good for KOT. I prefer Rubycon PK.

[@TheToneGeek]

Interesting!! I'll have to look that up. What features about the Ruby on did you like most on the spec sheet?

[@simonezanoni2059]

Does it really make sense to have an electrolytic cap that is audio grade in the power supply circuit? I would understand if it's in the signal path, but I'm not too sure about the power supply. I'm curios to hear your thoughts...

[@TheToneGeek]

@@simonezanoni2059 good question! The lower the ESR the better reduction in ripple. In pedals, it may not matter as much to be honest so yeah.. I think it's a nice feature but may not make a difference

[@synthguy4558]

Simone Zanoni Yeah, that certainly wouldn't make any sense, but that's not what these caps do; they're actually the main output coupling caps for the output of each side, so it's nice (and unexpected at this price point) that they did that. I just got the DemonFX version of this, which is virtually identical to the 68 (but with carbon film instead of carbon comp resistors in those few places) and the build quality and component selection are very, very good, and it sounds great.

[@simonezanoni2059]

@@synthguy4558 That's right! I didn't notice there was an electrolytic output coupling cap in parallel with a non polarised one. Yeah, they really made a great selection of components, indeed!

[@Stashmanfpv]

I sold my real KOT after getting a REAL 68pedals clone (there are copies of this pedal!!!) Don’t buy the ones on eBay, or anywhere else, as 68pedlas no longer sell on eBay. The only way to order the pedal is straight from the man himself. The clone (the real ones) actually sound better than the original and so the original got sold… Best! ✌🏼

[@corynorell3686]

How do you order from the man himself? Everywhere I look there are multiple sellers with identical images up. Don't trust any of em.

[@raywhite8539]

Where do you find the original guy? For the Clone thanks

[@binwang251]

I buy directly from 68 pedals. His pedals are amazing good. My KOC was supposed to be a temp stand-in while I'm on the KoT wait-list. But it has not left my board for years.

[@Tomislav_B.]

@@binwang251 How do you contact "68 pedals" directly?

[@joetoe9207]

No problem (I personally believe) attempting to improve upon or at least alter in a meaningful way a classic circuit. To copy the appearance with the obvious intent of either boosting the implicit or explicit appeal is at best greasy as hell. Cheap, morally vacant attempt to benefit from someone’s hard work and achievement. Gross. Bottom feeding move. I’m hoping the conclusion of this video is that it’s a piece of garbage. The knock-off is regardless, a POS. Go peddle your counterfeit product in your long-coat on Park Ave in New York.

[@BeefNEggs057]

$100 😦 wow how do they do it? Chinese slave labor? Lot of labor and parts aren’t free. Speaking of looks like you got monetized? Saw an ad.

[@SpencerP96]

For real, parts alone are probably 30-50 dollars.

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@SpencerP96 Yeah I’d say I paid $35-50 on my queen of bone. Didn’t even use the expensive diodes. Used a substitute since I don’t use the high gain setting anyway. I’m guessing they can get parts much cheaper than we can but still. I hope it’s just a small operation trying to get noticed perhaps. That’s how Keeley and JHS’s Josh got their start more or less. Mods and clones.

[@danielburgemeestre8374]

But it’s fake. You should support the originator of the KOT!

[@GregStraub42]

It's a clone. Just like the majority of the pedals on the market. The Analog Man KoT wait-list is at 6 years. They've been making pedals for the 2018 wait-list since 2022, I got on in 2020 and it's likely another 4 years or more until my spot comes up. If someone got on the wait-list today it would be 13-15 years until their slot came up. It is literally impossible to buy a KoT right now and has been for most of a decade. It is not possible to support Analog Man by buying an original. Additionally the KoT is a modded Blues Breaker. If you have issues with clones go buy two Marshall Blues Breakers. In short? No.