Pedal Settings: How to find the BEST Pedal Settings (as a Beginner of Double Bass Drumming)

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Here is the teased tutorial about how to find the best double bass pedal settings (mainly for double bass beginners). Make sure to check out the video description for the mentioned equipment and a chapter overview. Enjoy! My Online Drum School: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds #nechtan #nechtandrumschool

[@seriouscasualgamer9580]

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger I have some problems with my spring tension, the things you need to turn under the springs, are weirdly made, they have a kind of star shaped thing where you can adjust the tension which makes it really hard to adjust it, also it makes it quite litterally impossible to adjust it beyond a certain point, which makes it so the springs on my left pedal are extremely tight whereas the ones on the right ones are kinda loose, the height of the beater is almost the same for the two I have long boards speed cobras but I don't know the exact model, it should be mid-high tier gear

[@Marco00305]

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger are good iron cobra pedals for beginners?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

@serious casual gamer: I never owned speed cobras so i don't have any tips there - did you contact the Tama customer service?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

@Marco: I think they are pretty good pedals!

[@Marco00305]

hey what do you think about cymbal China 18 brillant series? its good for metal?

[@Allinguts]

Ive been playing drums for almost 16 years and I have never been able to find a comfortable pedal settings.

[@mikesmith1290]

Well that's discouraging! I've been playing for about a year, and am still messing with my spring settings!

[@Allinguts]

Maybe its me bro, don’t get discouraged.

[@mikesmith1290]

@@Allinguts thanks man!

[@larrytate1657]

Also a tip is the further back your beater travel is the more spring tension this creates. So if you prefer your beater back to an avg 45 degree angle you will need less spring tension than a metal drummer who uses a closer to the head beater distance. Pearls springs are a bit stronger than other manufacturers also.

[@larrytate1657]

Low tension on a pearl eliminator is about the same as mid tension on a iron cobra. So it amazes me that some people still max out their pearl pedals like this talented dude.

[@fabian7463]

This channel is the best, great work man.

[@changein3d]

I like your extreme german accent 🤣🤣 Gutes Video, danke für die Tipps

[@johnbreedlove3245]

Wanja, I appreciate the way you explain things so precisely and with humility. You're a fantastic drummer. Your style certainly isnt close to my own, but I implement your teaching to my drum 'health' and exercises push my playing to be far easier. I like that you play different pedals in different videos, which tells me that the instrument isnt as important as the player. ; )'

[@biodigitaljazz1]

This is a great place to start, as a drummer for 15 years who's just purchased a double bass pedal for the first time.

[@Brandonbikes]

Try to learn bleed by Messugah for your first song

[@biodigitaljazz1]

@@Brandonbikes yawn overplayed and overmemed

[@Anonymous_________]

Lmfao ok noob

[@biodigitaljazz1]

@@Anonymous_________ I've been playing drums and percussion since 2004, a variety of genres, settings and performances. I'm aware of the rudimentary work and patterns in the song, but if you'd read the original comment I've owned the double bass pedal for one of the nearly twenty years I've been performing. So if I can't do perform double strokes with my left foot I assure you some moron on the internet calling me a noob is hardly going to bother me lmao.

[@larrytate1657]

Some ultra talented pro drummers only play single kick.

[@ДоверманСатз]

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger thanks for all the videos. They have been helping me a lot.

[@RedWolfDrift2000]

Thank you soooo much!! Exactly the explanation I was looking for. ALSO thank you for making it in English for us.

[@RockingBro_Frank]

I found this very helpful. As a self-taught drummer mostly I never really learned about these things when I was younger. Most of the time I avoid playing double bass because I'm simply not good enough at it. I think this will help me make some major improvements so thank you!

[@cole-ik6ys]

How do you not have 1 million subscribers?

[@colinclements7436]

Very informative and definitely a great place to start for a beginner! I remember feeling overwhelmed with all the adjustment options available when I first started playing double bass and I wish I had a video like this to help me sort it all out. Keep up the great work dude, you are awesome!

[@roodesignlive1231]

This is a great video, I've been playing Pearl Eliminators for years and I always question if my settings are optimal. This helps settle a lot of self doubt.

[@thoraldgraymane3295]

I'm from Brazil. I and my friends are very inspired by you. Thanks and continue with the videos.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Nice to hear that. Thanks to you and your friends for watching and supporting, too!

[@thoraldgraymane3295]

I'm a guitar player, but I love watching your videos playing and videos like that. Do you want to cover death metal songs?

[@DankoHidalgo]

3:13 Lombardo

[@smokeyfox4453]

lol was just about to comment lombardo but saw this hahah

[@DrunkenPug]

My pedal is old and squeaky, should i just hit it with wd 40 or take it apart and replace? I can still get good rebound and doubles with one foot but its loud haha

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Take apart, clean, then lubricate all moving parts. If after that it is still squeaky then you gotte replace it I guess.

[@cameronolson3257]

Pearl Eliminator NOT Dominator! Just giving you crap man. Excellent video! Great advice for beginner to intermediate dbl bass drum players like me! You covered everything to know about how to adjust your pedals and I found it very useful how you distinguished differences in settings between beginner vs. advanced players. WOW! Thank you sir! I'm gonna adjust my Iron Cobras and relearn Sepultura's "Refuse/Resist" now!

[@cotyhunter2019]

chaos ad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@averageravenskie6070]

Nice video! I'm a beginner and just bought a cheap double pedal. I've messed around with it but I want to see how other people sets up their own. Great video, I've learned many things from you. Hope I can reach your level of drumming

[@dustinstout577]

That video was super-informative! You are very knowledgeable and I appreciate you sharing it in that well-made video. Sick drumming too!!!

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thanks for appreciating!

[@chucktouchton398]

I use Trick, so this doesn't apply to my personal settings, but, on a pedal like that, I would tighten up the action of the slave pedal just a hair more than the main pedal...as to counter the sloppy action of the slave pedal...

[@mattvdh]

I don't know if I would say the slave is sloppy in terms of engineering, it's pretty darn close to how the right beater feels on a Trick double bass pedal. Just look at videos of how excellently made the bearings are. And they are literally two singles with just a connector rod

[@SadBstard]

This is an excellent tutorial. May I congratulate you on your wonderful English. I feel ashamed I know no German.

[@andynilsson3248]

thank you man keep up!!!!

[@332nd_collectibles]

Who thought of lars when he had talking about seat height?

[@mattvdh]

Lombardo for me

[@WilderFaloticoMusic]

I was thinking about Paul from Cannibal Corpse.

[@Avliv_Satan]

I have Pearl 932 pedals, cheaper version of the demon drive ones, very much middle class pedals, though slightly more expensive, my point by mentioning this is that from my experience it's much easier to play fast on pedals that are a bit more expensive, so if you want to get something that's great to start playing fast with, I'd definitely go for something like this.

[@ArlindoCardoso]

The best explanation 🙏🏼🤘🏼🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@solorider6229]

Hey Wanja! Thanks for your knowledge!! really appreciate your teachings... greetings from Ibiza, keep it up!

[@Dozereyes]

Hey man awesome vid. I actually have both modules. Love TD3 better for triggering. More bottom end sounding. Can you connect addictive drums to TD3?

[@OrochiTheGamer]

very well explained. when i started i had mapex double pedals that were rusted and junk. honestly now after playing speed cobra and demon drives i kinda wish i still had them to prove that you can do everything on cheap pedals as expensive ones

[@jphifer2848]

Really well done. Getting into the details really helps me troubleshoot where my problems might be. Thanks!!

[@theroadspud8153]

Dave Lombardo of Slayer played with his legs above his seat position. Point still stands though.

[@fxcast4057]

Man this really helped me! I recently changed from mapex raptor(d drive) to eliminator redlinde (double chain) the feel was just wrong. I lost my pedal. The raptors i played right out the case good to go. The redline i had to try the diff cams before i chose blue and adjusting the beaters did it. Thanks

[@keokiheller4351]

Great comprehensive vid🤙🏽 thanks😎

[@Anima.Libera]

Thank you so much, very helpful!

[@Kristianmbossow]

Yo my man! Great video - so very useful and you explain everything very well 🙏🏻💪🏻

[@j.d.7208]

Excellent detailed explanation as all ways great job and great playing too ( I subbed)

[@yotamgilad600]

Zach Hill - you should check out the unconventional way he sits at his drums.

[@demigodindia5764]

Thanks bro It helped

[@jtf3307]

As far as im concerned Dave Lombardo seats pretty low

[@benny6561]

Dave Lombardo and Jon Dette sit very low and also play fast double bass

[@myotiswii]

I am just trying to find out where to place my hihat and left pedal :(

[@JustAPairofLegs]

My problem is the left one will not get as tight as the right one

[@mr.t7492]

Not gonna lie but probably one of the best or maybe the best bass Drum I’ve ever heard!

[@janvirtanen6199]

Ha witzig! Ich habe gerade auch mit dem Schlagzeug spielen angefangen und komm da auf deine Videos xD LG von Jan aus Kiel (Autumn Blast 2016)

[@cokedout_2909]

Hey wanja! Huge fan. Quick question. Whenever i play anywhere past 130 bpm 16th notes, my ankles want to immediately jump into 190 to 200 bpm. Also my legs just wont play anywhere between 130 and 190. Whenever im supposed to use a mix of full leg motion and ankle motion, i just cant do it. I can only play full leg motion only, or ankle motion only. Any tips?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

This seems to be a problem for many ankle motion users - I think you just have to practise a lot to get better at this kind of tempo. Just try to practise playing as slow as possible with your ankles and as fast as possible with your legs! It might help in the beginning (especially for playing slower with your ankles) to lower the spring tension and/or to increase the beater distance.

[@Lenox2712]

Sehr gutes Video hab ich gebraucht

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Freut mich 👍

[@АлексейАлмазов-г9у]

Вот бы меня вот так засунули под педаль,и топтали педалью.

[@giim2552]

Ich habe Ihr Tutorial Nechtan Grüße aus Mannheim geliebt

[@emphase6]

I've never used drums in my life, but I just watched a video of someone rocking out on the drums..so I wanted to find out how to set this up. For the future.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Good luck!

[@roshanyumnam8621]

Can i ask a question, La have a doubt

[@KP-iv5ih]

i sit on a junior ludwig set throne and can still do heel toe. not easy though

[@GPrime008]

Im getting one of those shirts! 300 BPM

[@nickhuang1408]

very useful !! love from China !!!!

[@natanaelguadalupeaviles1550]

Thanks for th tips. Bblessed

[@janivelic2316]

Dave Lombardo sits low and can go 220 bro. It's a matter of personal preference ;) Nice video!

[@spy_risebh6367]

Man hört so einen heftigen deutschen Akzent heraus

[@randallross420]

thanks for the tips, i'm five days in learning drums. wish me luck :)

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

You`re welcome! Great that you`re starting. Keep going, all the best for you! Btw.: My drum school might be interesting for you (at least when you`re into metal drumming). It starts right from the beginning with all the basics and goes up to a pro level. My personal support is also included. You can check it out here: www.wanjanechtangroeger.com/bundles/nds

[@philliprakaas7789]

I have a problem where I can’t go slow on the double bass, if I go to fast I miss a lot of notes but if I try to go slow I miss a lot of notes too:/ any help??

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Maybe spring tension too high? But it could also be a matter of just practise. Always start very slow and work your way up - just fast muscle twitching is not the way to go ;)

[@StopPanakinAnakin]

Alan Cassidy is one of the tightest and fastest drummers I've seen. dudes practically sitting on the fucking floor XD

[@jonthedrummer]

Awesome explanation!

[@TxaiRezende]

Thank you, Wanja. \_ _/

[@lastcall9998]

Please make a video of how you get your drum tone? Sounds stellar ;) (tuning, muffling, whatever). Mine sounds like sht (22").

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

It really is nothing special but since many people ask about that I will make a video about that in the future!

[@asmrwithdoo5706]

If it rings on a bit if the other side from the beater has one of those giant hole in it you can put a put or a blanket it it

[@toivo.u]

1:27 Aborted - Hecatomb

[@fakeeru6783]

Lowering the beater looks like the option for me, thank you Nech... (i have the same beater, pedal but with the blue leather strap)...

[@forthefunofit5487]

nice job on this video!

[@ryanmorrison2489]

Cool vids and great footwork!! I just subscribed, love watching! Keep up good work!! \m/ \m/

[@carrie7225]

I can only afford those shit double pedals that have a shit ton of lag on the slave pedals. So it's hard as hell to even play 16ths at 150 BPM without the slave pedal fucking up

[@blackmoondragoon4862]

minute 3.15 Dani Löble from Helloween sits low and can play fast, I prefer sitting high too

[@ducatiperformance]

Why not put the red cam? And you prefer light position powershifter ? My distance beater from drumhead is 13.5 cm your? 👍

[@ultrakool]

hi wanja, just to play devil's advocate, tommy aldridge sat super low and killed it on double bass (the exception proves the rule, I suppose). I took his advice and unfortunately failed to achieve his results. I think your advice is more sound, for everyone. thx.

[@dennisdeeds2257]

Hi, Wanja. Your approach is what different when you are playing. I however, find your explanations very HELPFULL. Thanks

[@silverbrain7822]

Thx alot, i found new life for my Pearls when started to play with different settings inspired by your video. Also improved my double play technique alot. Keep it up, good work.

[@nimitz1739]

Great information.

[@insertmetalusernamehere]

Thank you so much. I have been looking for a video just like this. A complete beginner looking at a bass pedal for the first time really sucks. It took me 2 weeks to figure out what was going on. I was trying to play with the spring tension from the top where you alter the angle. As you can tell it wasn't working out lol thanks again man. You're the boss of KZbin drummers.

[@jenkem69]

Very helpful!! Just got my double pedal today, this helped so much more than most videos I’ve watched so far!

[@ucfmatt9252]

Does anyone have experience with Iron cobra 600 double pedal?I cant find any guides and I have a harder time play on then than my old pearl single pedal.

[@zman2206]

Dave Lombardo...

[@Ampeautyful]

@6:10 when I first began practicing double bass I would actually set the right beater (right was my leading foot at the time) so it would actually tap the top of my foot in between each impact. However, I don't recommend that to new drummers. It beat the shit out of the topside of that foot after awhile.

[@majapashit666]

Hello nechta thx for the vid i just subscribed. Which country your shop located at?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thanks for subscribing! The Shop is in Germany but you can order the stuff from around the world ;)

[@majapashit666]

Wanja [Nechtan] Gröger orite thanks

[@Luemm3l]

"angles not smaller than 90 Degree, [,,,] I've seen no drummer who sits like this who can play fast" ... well, Alan Cassidy from bLACK dahlia murder and some other drummers I had a look at would like to have a word with you :P ... I also can't play if I'm sitting too low I feel you get more power out of a higher sitting position, however some people manage to play blazingly fast with the weirdest sitting positions :D

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Just checked a drumcam of Alan out and yes he sits pretty low - although I think his legs are still horizontal and not pointing upwards. Also he uses the swivel technique wich seems to work well even if you sit low since I have seen many good swivelers sitting with their legs horizontal.

[@scottlowell493]

I thought it was just me! I never got used to the close-to-the-kick beaters. I never got them going fast enough, like they were fighting me.

[@nathaniel2113]

Great video

[@HorrorDude86]

Great video again! Wish you'd brought this one out a year ago, think i've just about found my settings now!

[@Silbereiche1]

Seitdem ich doublebase trainiere hab ich ernste Probleme mit der hüfte... Gibts da Tipps?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Ich weiß nicht genau, wie es bei dir aussieht, aber generell muss man darauf achten, nach Möglichkeit halbwegs entspannt zu bleiben. Vielleicht kannst du auch mit der Sitzhöhe experimentieren!

[@veerchasm1]

Good job. Just what I was looking for as I just bought a used Pearl double pedal. I wish you would have covered how to adjust the hi hat stand to get the pedal next to it

[@anthonywatts4292]

Both of my drum seats are either way too low or too high which means that I am doing a point toe type thing which makes it difficult to play fast an accurately

[@glennkotanen3219]

U are 2 good! thanks for all the videos u made/make!! you made my drumming so much easier!

[@superbowserjr10]

YOU HAVE THE SAME SHOES AS ME REE

[@noblych9953]

Great tutorial. The base drum sound sick

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thanks!

[@jessegunn2033]

Very helpful thx bro 4 the tips keep up the good work.

[@CerilloTorres30]

Thankyou

[@sashaqy8081]

This video was super helpful for a beginner in double bass like me! Thanks a lot and keep up the good work👍🔥

[@BunkerAudioPanama]

The most accurate video I've seen out there, great job and thanks for sharing!

[@russell_kberg1]

Dave Lombardo sits very low and somehow he did angel of death...

[@VanitasOnYT]

I had a question regarding the slave pedal. When i set up my double bass pedal i matched the parameters of the pedals equally. But when i swing them simultaneously the slave pedal is much looser than the main pedal. How is this possible and how do i change this?

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

The slave pedal always has a little bit more mass attached to it due to the drive shaft. But in my experience this simply doesn't matter although it does make a difference when you let both beaters swing simultaniously. But is is not enough of a difference to notice it when you play. So if it is just that - well just ignore it :D Another issue might be that your drive shaft may be a bit worn out and may have developed a bit of lag. But unless this is really bad it doesn't matter that much unless you play a lot over 200bpm. This is the main reason why I got my Demon Drive pedals - they have a zero latency drive shaft, so this is no issue for me. So the bottom line is: With a double pedal it is simply impossible that both sides swing perfectly even. If you want to make sure your slave pedal works as well as your main, just play with your right foot (or your left if you are a lefty) on the slave side and see if it feels any different from your main pedal. As long as you can play on both sides equally well with your strong side there is no problem.

[@VanitasOnYT]

@@wanjanechtangroeger thx so much! I have been looking all over the internet for a solution or even a if this does matter. And there you where hahah. Much appreciated;)

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

@@VanitasOnYT You're welcome :)

[@charlesbullock2856]

I use double bass it’s more fluid to me.Your teachings are awsome man.

[@mikelovesdeb]

What bass drum head are you using on batter side, thnx. Mike D.

[@anglo2255]

I've drummed for years but these are still helpful tips. I'll have to apply many of these tips. Thanks

[@metalyogawithsteph]

Thank you for this explanation!!

[@retrolightman6737]

5:21

[@felipeqmoraes]

Man, you just saved me! Thank you and keep going!

[@jameshetfield1792]

Hey bro..why do u use the black side of the beaters? And is the pearl beater you are using is the best for playing fast?

[@joeyscotch2765]

The black side gives off more of an attack than the, (foam or fabric?). The feel of a beater only depends on you. What he uses for his main Demon Drives are standard Sonor beaters because he find them less heavy

[@jameshetfield1792]

@@joeyscotch2765 thx mate for the info.. i just bought the beaters yesterday...hope i play fast like him..:)

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thanks @a name for answering - you are absolutely correct! Apart from that it is mostly that I got used to them - if for some reason I would switch to heavier beaters, I would just lower the beater height a bit and it would probably feel not too different.