The Best Double Pedal Settings For Your Pedal

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

CAUTION : It's crucial to do the settings in the order shown in the video. Example : Don't mess with spring tension before adjusting beater angle. Beater angle also affects how tense the spring gets when the beater travels to the head. So you want to adjust in this order 1. Beater height 0:42 2. Footboard angle 1:25 3. Beater angle 2:32 4. Spring tension 3:12 5. Fine tune and have fun!

[@mistermaster4801]

I find that you explain many important points for the drummer's technique set-ups and istrumentation much better and in detail than many others. And I found some more useful information in general in your free videos here on KZbin than in some paid eBook and lessons.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh hey glad you found this helpful. It's an incomplete picture though. I just put out a step by step guide to pedal settings here kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3XPiXVog9KAa5I Hope that helps you a lot. And thank you for your super kind words!!

[@christophermaynard528]

Used this video on my demon drives and loved it. Just finished applying the same settings to my speed cobras and they feel amazing. Now making the switch to my speed cobras. This is the most important pedal setup video out there.

[@roxnroll8050]

OK... This is THE best video on pedal calibration I've ever seen (on KZbin or elsewhere!)!!! I just adjusted my pedals, and with a little tweaking I just jumped in speed! My Footboard angle was too high, the beater was too low, the spring tensions were all off. I had to work so much harder to play some songs - and I barely have to try now! Sick. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Wish this would've existed a few years ago!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Cheers thanks for taking the effort to try this out :) what pedals do you use? Would help others with the same pedals

[@roxnroll8050]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ - N/P! I have the Trick Drums Pro1-V Black Widow. REALLY nice pedals. I love the fact I could tighten/loosen the spring tension without ever leaving my throne.

[@RicciDrums]

Dude, I was about to lose it with my pedals - thanks for taking me back to the basics so I could dial my pedals in properly.🙌

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hey I hope it helped!

[@ryancox5097]

Bro, your channel is so great. Love your content.

[@rickwells5624]

Very good video. I don't think I've ever heard anyone explain how to set up the bass pedal better. You did an excellent job. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks for appreciating! I try my best, but still think there are gaps in my Knowledge for sure.

[@rickwells5624]

@ArtOfDrummingHQ Your. Welcome. We all have gaps in our knowledge. Nobody knows everything. So we all have more to learn. But you are better at sharing your knowledge and explaining it than anyone else I've seen on KZbin. 😉😀

[@KGTv123]

Dude thank you so much for this video. I was getting so frustrated with my pedalwork and it was really discouraging. I watched your video and followed everything you did step by step and my pedals feel so much better and way more effortless right now. I don’t know where I went so wrong but my settings were so bad it’s no wondering I wasn’t playing well. My pedal boards were approaching 70 degree angles and weren’t matched. My beater angles were also way off and my spring tension was too high. Now that I took the time to go back to square one, they feel so much better. When I’m playing slow double bass I don’t find myself galloping and easier to stay in time. Again, I thank you so much. With all the drum videos and tutorials out there the way you incorporate function of not only the pedal and drums but also the functions of the body, the mind and health of the player is what sets you apart. I wish you all the best.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks for coming back and writing this awesome appreciative comment. I'm really happy you went to do the whole setup. (I know of some people still procrastinating after seeing that video) This will definitely help others take that step. Btw what pedals do you use, it will help others with the same pedals as well!

[@KGTv123]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ No problem at all. I’m glad to give back support in any way that I can. I am currently using a Tama Iron Cobra pedal with a Pearl ZLink drive shaft. I actually have a set of Pearl Demon XR pedals which are incredibly smooth to play on, but I don’t like that you can’t change the beater angle independently of the footboard. I get the analysis paralysis theory when given too many options to tweak. But I think the pedal board and beater angle adjustments are so important to be able to do independently of one another that I think it was an oversight on pearls end when making the pedal. Because besides that, it’s an amazing pedal. On my Iron Cobras I also removed the cobra coils under the pedal board

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh yes nice removing those coils, they'd definitely introduce another factor into the support of the leg. I've seen some people play with or without them. I have no experience with them though. Thanks for sharing!!!

[@twincrows3362]

Thanks, you are the best. I have to test it.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Let us know how it goes once you've test driven your new settings!

[@samueltorres2210]

It's cool to find people that feel passion for something and teach others like you do, thanks a lot man!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

My pleasure, teaching is my ultimate passion so I can't help it hahaha. It gives me the most joy compared to performing/composition and all the other things drummers can do to make a living. Thanks for appreciating this video, you're awesome!

[@DavidKDrums]

This was super helpful. 24.9 seems really low for the footboard for me. Maybe because I’m short and I sit closer. So I have mine more at 26 to see how it works out. Still quite lower than I had it. Also, my spring tension is extremely loose and the beater is off the head. Again, maybe because I’m short I don’t bring as much weight down on the pedal so loose tension works.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

It's always good to experiment and find what works best for you! Also I did an experiment awhile back to see the difference in weights of my students' leg(adults) the lightest was 3.5kg and the heaviest was 24kg. This should tell you that adjustments can be quite different across the board. Though the methodology is the same.

[@jilips]

Thank you for this! You're the man!

[@peterthornton8814]

I have to be honest, thsi was the best video I've ever seen about simple adjustment of the pedals. You explained so well. I followed the steps and I am blown away by where I keep my pedal settings now compared to yesterday. The order of the steps works so wekk. I also used a inclinometer like you suggest. Thank you so much for makng this!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Super glad you took the effort to readjust your pedal. I hope it serves you well and thank you for sharing your feedback. Cheers!

[@peterthornton8814]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Cheers!

[@stephenbarton2625]

This is amazing. I watched a youtube short that helped but this was the full details I really needed. You are amazing! Incredible footwork too! Rock on my friend!!!!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Cheers! Thanks for the appreciation!!

[@sw8093]

just got my double bass pedal and this helped a lot! thanks dude🙂

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

My pleasure:) Enjoy your tuned pedals!

[@Bharat_B13]

Rightly explained! 🙌

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Hope this helps!

[@samdavparsley8266]

Great info ! It will be helpful as I keep learning about drumming👍 Thanks for your sharing.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

My pleasure, thanks for showing your appreciation 😁

[@milesondrums]

Your content is just awesome! Inspiring and educational. THANK YOU! 🙌

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I appreciate that! 🙏 Hope this helps!

[@chrisstowe6623]

Thanks Brother. This was a great help

[@Usama_hordam]

Legend! Thx for taking the time to make these videos.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Thanks! Pleasure is mine. Gotta help more people progress.

[@Acoustic2Electronic]

Great video. And also Gewa kit too!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You play Gewa too? It's rather new for me as I've been using Roland for years prior hahaha

[@Acoustic2Electronic]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Gewa is excellent! I have played a G9 a fair bit on a recent set of shows, but I mostly play Efnote and a few different A2E kits. :) The roland stuff is super solid though. Used to use it for years haha

[@rf-lf2wj]

Thanks a lot.Appreciate your guide

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

My pleasure!

[@jcgosselin3713]

Hey man ! Very nice video, wich application of inclinometer do you use ?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

erm it just says "Inclinometer" in the app store. The one with the green spirit level logo

[@jcgosselin3713]

@ArtOfDrummingHQ thank you!

[@trailertrashtactics]

Incredible video. In 5 minutes! Subbed

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Awesome, thank you!

[@Miguelmuaythai97]

Now it's just a matter of studying, thank you.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

You're welcome!

[@BKRCommunity]

thanks! great tutorial👍

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

thank you, hope it helps!

[@chipe420]

This is by far the best explanation of kick pedal settings I’ve seen

[@bendecko326]

Awesome video! what inclinometer app are you using? Thanks brotha!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Footboard angle, App is "inclinometer and bubble level", for beater angle, app is "simple inclinometer"

[@bendecko326]

Thanks buddy!!

[@PEANUTGOD127]

What beaters are you using on your demon drives? Also, would you recommend the demon drive over the xr's or other similary priced dd double pedals? Thanks!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I'm using the ahead switch kicks. They're heavier beaters so have more momentum without affecting anything else. I got them for free though(sponsored) so I might not have used them otherwise. The xrs should be even smoother but honestly the difference should be a very small one. What's most important is dialing in the correct settings for yourself, and I play a dw5000 too which is a slightly worse pedal overall than the demon drive but with the right settings it still flies. But if you have the budget go all out!

[@zahiddrummer2278]

The footboard angel can i know what u use inclinometer name??

[@francescorabitti4993]

Hi! Thank u! The only think i have a question about board height. If i put it in the middle (factory setting mark), i have the flat surface of the d shaft orizontal, the main lever orizontal and the footbar at 16.5 degree not 24.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh U r talking about the app reading? Did it calibrate properly, or try a different app. Should not be 16, that's too low. But I'm only assuming without having a picture of your pedals to reference

[@francescorabitti4993]

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[@eliwerth4704]

Please help!! Big fan, been subbed for years. Will dm/pay you if need be. I have dw5000s. Footboard angle is attached to beater angle so i had to move the chain to achieve your recommended footboard angle of 25 degrees. As a result, my beater would not reach the drum head before hitting the bottom of pedal (the hoop clamp). This is after moving the chain from second notch to fourth on the pedal. DW5000 only has 4 notch options for the chain. So i tried it on the 3rd notch and achieves beater touching the head. But footbaord angle is 30 degrees and beater is then 55 degrees. I played like this for an hour and a half doing simple double bass exercises and songs and it felt bad. Feels like theres no power in the stroke, and like im about to "bottom out" or hit the pedal bottom. Also in this setting, i needed max spring tension to resist my leg weight yet the tension feels very low as far as the rebound im getting. Overall very confused. Spring tension is reacting different now, maxed out but doesnt feel tight. Also theres a weird "weightless" feeling upon rebound when the beater is the farthest back during its swing (almost hitting the top of my foot). Please help answer some of my questions! Love you and your channel thanks. After all the moving chains and stuff i either want to commit to this fir a couple weeks or just go back. I was using out of box settings. Thanks!!!

[@Lemon_Pilgrim]

Good video! I am having an issue with my footboard striking the metal frame. When I adjust it, the footboard angle is quite high and the beater is far from bass drum head. Any advice?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

What pedal do you use? Are they Tama speed cobras

[@aaronstepanik9365]

Thank you for the video. I am going to try the this. For my current pedal settings, I do not have much beater swing. It may swing 4 to 5 times then it dies quickly. The slave pedal dies quicker than the main pedal. (By beater swing, I mean by using my hand to bring the beater back and let it go for it to swing back and forth). When I see other drummer pedals, it swings so much more and it doesn't die quickly. Do you know why this is? The spring tension? I have a Pearl pedal that was around $190 brand new. I don't know if more expensive pedals have better beater swings. Thanks for the help!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh yes, the cheaper pedals tend to not have good designs. I use to own a cheap pearl pedal that didn't give me much swing too. And the left pedal was real stiff. Even on my current DW5000 the left pedal only managed 5-6 swings. Hence I upgraded the shaft to a Trick Drums Shaft and it swings way better now. Though you can still try to fine tune your pedals with the above tutorial settings. I do that for some of my students who start with cheaper pedals, and they at least get their pedals to better working condition, good enough to consistently practice with. Also if your pedals are old, consider taking apart the moving parts, give them a clean and a fresh coat of WD-40. I oil my pedals once a year too(probably can do more but lazy haha)

[@Ophius]

In your teaching experience, do you find heel up or heel down works better for double bass? Or is it still a toss-up of what works the best for the player? Heel down works much more naturally for me but I struggled with volume, so my instructor converted me to heel up for a single pedal. Now I'm feeling the same lack of control, but I also wonder if it's because I don't have settings that are adjusted to me systematically yet!

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

I too experimented with heel down a long time ago (inspired by JoJo Mayer) but I realised that heel up has more advantages for playing heavier styles. So I committed to full heel up. Once you master it, it's easier for volume and you can get really great speed and control(majority of the fastest drummers 250-300bpm play heel up, I only know Thomas Lang who can play heel down super fast on double bass, but he still uses heel up as well) I do use heel down as a way to keep my shins in shape. And overall you want to develop better and faster muscles in your legs (everything from hips, thighs, glutes, calves, shin) because double bass is a difficult technical motion that requires your leg muscles to work well together. Hence likely certain muscles in your leg are weaker because you've been playing only heel down and probably have no good exercises to train the weaker muscles up. Final point, I never use what feels natural to decide how to do things (because hard things always feel unnatural) and a lot of the times it's the hard things that must be mastered which then allows naturally good controlled speed. That's the irony hahaha. I still remember how a lot of the things I can do now to be so unnatural and uncomfortable in the past.

[@Ophius]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ Thank you for your thoughts, very valuable insights as always! Such a good point about "natural doesn't mean good" because you reminded me how painfully foreign playing a guitar felt like in my first few months, but today having a guitar in my hands feels natural from all those years of practice. I've recently been using your double bass routine to get back into drumming after stopping my (single bass) lessons, hitting a big wall with double bass and then went on a 6-months period with minimal practice and just noodling. I'm excited to apply what you've taught in this video onto my settings and then grinding with the exercise routine!

[@ZoranRadovanovDrums]

it wouldn't be bad idea to do this video but with your DW5000 pedals, because I think a lot more people still have pedals like that all around the world :)

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Oh yeah good idea, I'll make a short of me adjusting them :)

[@saulvera5469]

How do you change the footboard and the beaters angle separately? I have a 5000 and if I adjust the beater, the footboard changes and viceversa.

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

For the 5000 U gotta shift the chain to adjust footboard angle (do a google search to get the details)

[@muhdzahid-sj4jw]

Where i want buy like your beater?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Ahead switch kick

[@luissilvadrummer]

What’s the name for the app?

[@YyhggYhg7gugugu]

Honestly I love channels like 66samus and dbo but it's a real shame their tutorials show up first and I wasted so much tike before finding this gem

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

Popularity/consistency is what KZbin would recommend first :) but I really hope this info helps you better!

[@gabewilson9359]

How often do you practice a day?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

When I was I7, I was obsessed with going at least 6-8 hours a day because it was my dream to go pro. But nowadays it's difficult to even get in 3 hours. I have a fully packed teaching schedule 5 days a week. Do content creation, answer questions from students/community outside of work hours. And recently I've been researching fitness and muscular system. That allows me 30 minutes to 3 hours of practice on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. I do my best to keep to that routine. More important than how often to practice, is how good is your practice routine. A super 30 minute practice routine will beat a 6 hour routine packed with things that don't bring you towards results and goals you want (that's the part that you should figure out first when designing your practice routine). I'm planning to make a video on that in the near future(but more research needed first) What are your goals and the results that you want?

[@xoit7708]

please tell me what kind of beaters you use?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

These are ahead switch kicks

[@aidand7998]

After doing all the steps my pedals feel like there’s no weight to them? Any ideas?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

What double pedal are you using? Also sounds like you're used to having a heavy feel with more tension, try swapping out your beaters for heavier ones with weights, adjust your spring tension tighter, raising your footboard angle. Some of my students try this and then realized that they can't feel the pedal, because they've been playing at settings that were too tense for them. But once they learn to relax their technique flows more effortlessly. Also some people do this and instantly play better. Try to adapt gradually or just tweak to what works better for you.

[@aidand7998]

@ I use a pearl long board double pedal (default beaters) and before I had my spring tension high and was able to push myself to do Double kick. But when I followed your steps it made my kick so loose that when I do a single kick there isn’t enough weight to the swing for it to register on my drum pad.

[@squdel9363]

Somehow I cant seem to play certain tempos with my right foot that I can play with my left. It feels like my right foot is just too well trained… diffixult to eplain it. The pedsl settngs sre identical

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

By that do you mean the left foot can play faster given a 1 min window of the same BPM? Or is it to do with different note groupings(some ppl find it easier to play longer, some find it easier to play shorter bursts(each is a muscle+technique problem) and many ppl have different leg capabilities

[@squdel9363]

@ What I mean is that my right foot cant play certain tempos but my left can. This occurs around 130ish bpm. My left foot can play it with a mixture of ankle and leg technique whilst my right foot cant do it at all. Also i seem to lack control over my ankle technique in general as I find myself able to play really fast tempos like 180 bpm but lacks the control to play 150 bpm

[@djvirtudazo5027]

beater height is just as important

[@YyhggYhg7gugugu]

What do you mean 4 turns bro i dont know hoe to change my double pedal springs withour destroying my fingers

[@riyuiwashere]

how tall are you when you said you are average height?

[@ArtOfDrummingHQ]

170cm

[@riyuiwashere]

@@ArtOfDrummingHQ so i’m above average then… (178-180)