PEN America CEO on “The Real Culture Wars” Between Democracy and Autocracy

PEN America CEO on “The Real Culture Wars” Between Democracy and Autocracy | Amanpour and Company

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@erickborling1302 7 ай бұрын

Popular movies and entertainment do NOT in any way "skew to the (political) left." In most cases the appeal is visceral, violent, and glorifies anti-social vigilantism, etc... The research is in, and published. Look it up.

@terriem3922 7 ай бұрын

I don't have a TV and haven't seen a movie except Barbie in the last two years. Before that, I walked out of the theater when it got violent. I won't put up with the violence being shown. It doesn't add to the plot. How pitiful that writers can not think of more interesting plots.

@rodneyoneil-kb1xk 7 ай бұрын

EXACTLY,,,,UNLESS YOUR A ,,,REPUBLICAN,,THEN,,,I CAN’T HELP YOU,,,,YOUR LOST IN THE,,maga universe..AND,,I REALLY FEEL. SORRY FOR YOU,,,,

@catc8927 7 ай бұрын

Ukraine is literally the frontline of democracy at the moment, and the resurgence of Ukrainian literary culture and written accounts of life under Russian occupation or the war have given us unparalleled views into that part of the world. The most compelling story was of a short diary written by author Volodymyr Vakulenko. He buried it in his garden the day before the Russians occupying his village dragged him out of his home, shot him, and buried him in a mass grave along with other victims from his village. Ukrainian author Victoria Amelina, who was also involved in PEN Ukraine, dug up this diary under a cherry tree after the village had been liberated, and had it sent to be restored - before she herself was killed in a Russian attack on a pizza restaurant.

@joycesvarvar 8 ай бұрын

Another interesting conversation. who controls the narrative and indeed what the narrative reflects is always central in culture. The problem occurs when it's for rhe purpose of control, whether its in a democratic or an authoritarian government. The need to " control or direct" thoughts is ultimately harmful because it leads people to view other thoughts or Cultures as "less than" in significance.

@dad102 8 ай бұрын

You guys host voices and ideas you don't hear anywhere else. Suzanne's ideas published at Foreign Affairs are thought-provoking.

@iamhe999 7 ай бұрын

US anti China propaganda…

@Johan-vk5yd 8 ай бұрын

Very good content. One topic that fascinates me; ”Hollywood seems to lean to the left”. Made me think of a MAGAt complaining about ”universities are woke”, advocating for ”conservatives” founding ”conservative universities”. Maybe education on a higher level, trying to find out things, has the potential to make people ”woke” to society, as it is? The same might go for a business of making art that moves peoples feelings and evokes compassion in others? Just a thought.

@craven5328 7 ай бұрын

I think there is probably very good data that exposure to high-education is highly correlated with more progressive values. I think this could be because - it's harder to be regressive and maintain old ideas when you are exposed on a daily basis to new ideas. As for Hollywood - the arts in general have always had a more progressive lean, for hundreds if not thousands of years. Despite the fact that some see the arts and sciences as opposites, what drives people to these fields is often a similar desire to create something new, to experiment, to push boundaries. Again, it's a mindset that doesn't align well with worldviews that seek to freeze or turn back time.

@donaldwarriner1640 8 ай бұрын

From personal experience as a minority, at a school in the South Bronx, the one area where I saw raw enthusiasm with our students was a grant funded dance program. All of this in the beginning days of, The Every Child Left Behind Act. My African American colleagues understood this viscerally. I look back and see how profound what I witnessed was to those young minds.

@erickborling1302 7 ай бұрын

"No child's behind is left." - Ann Richards, Democratic Governor of Texas

@donaldwarriner1640 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the chuckle. I remember Ann Richards well.@@erickborling1302

@coeleenkiebert8154 7 ай бұрын

Coeleen Kiebert, ms, artist/psychologist Nossel is brilliant....right. The creators who dare to speak with an individual authenticity DO create a culture that always longs to surface...powerful because it comes from within...naturally rejecting ideas striving to superimpose.

@roberth2627 8 ай бұрын

She hit the Nail on the head...

@judykinsman3258 8 ай бұрын

Growing up in Jim Crow south, the history of blacks (coloreds as they were called) was written out. The Civil Rights movement introduced it & racism, although real, was kept mostly in the background. Now, racism & erasing their history is acceptable & even valued by many.

@bdadolph 7 ай бұрын

One would think the National cultural background is sharply different

@doug3691 8 ай бұрын

"Change" is less uncomfortable for some than others. This might be the main reason why people separate, rather than remain united (in a country).

@johnspehn4051 8 ай бұрын

"Fascists don't have ideology, they have style. Style is much more alluring than ideology" Edmundo Eco

@johnspehn4051 8 ай бұрын

Eco's Italian fascism had no special philosophy.” It did, however, have style, “a way of dressing-far more influential, with its black shirts, than Armani, Benetton, or Versace would ever be.” Much like the red hats of Trumpism, an accessory more influential than any NIKE, Versace or Ralph Lauren could ever be. As a form of extreme nationalism, "fascism ultimately takes on the contours of whatever national culture produces it."

@craven5328 7 ай бұрын

@johnspehn4051 Interesting! I might add - style is possibly more alluring because it's more subtle in it's influence (well, maybe not the Maga hats). Vis a vis the cold war: "In the United States, the government and fashion industry collaborated to promote American fashion as a symbol of freedom, democracy, and prosperity. American designers were encouraged to create clothing that represented these values, and fashion shows were held around the world to showcase American fashion. So we see space suits, wearable technology, and bikinis and most importantly, synthetic fabrics which were affordable. The Soviet Union, on the other hand, used fashion to promote its communist ideology. The government controlled the fashion industry, and designers were encouraged to create clothing that reflected the values of socialism. Soviet fashion was designed to be practical and functional, rather than fashionable."

@johnspehn4051 7 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how subtle the unmistakeable red hats of Trumpism. Like Eco noted, fascism takes on the contours of the country from which it spawns. I'm not so sure MAGA star Marge Greens MAGA uniform, or behavior, ( red MAGA hat & flaming red coat) at this week's SOTU speech, is at all intended to be subtle. However, it's interesting to note how the most enthusiastic Trump followers don't cite any Trump political ideology as there cause for complete suspension of reality & abandonment of their critical think skills. It's his style. How he speaks to them. His entertainment value! And, SIMILARILY, it's noteworthy how they stress over & try to control the narratives around cultural issues and trends. They are not nearly concerned about attacks against their political ideology. No one but the educated, elitite class care about accusing them of being fascists, for ex. They care far more about what Taylor Swift might do or say than an attack on Trump's fascist tendencies. Completely consistent with the 1930's fascist Italy Eco talks about in his youth.

@johnspehn4051 7 ай бұрын

Another observation is how the focus on cultural issues, Icons & trends is seemingly always through the lens of the leader. Think about it. Trump's rallys include endless diatribes about windmills, water pressure, music ratings, talented entertainers & ones who are terrible actors. Good films and bad movies, mostly determined by someone in the film saying something nice or bad about their cult leader. The MAGA crowds lens becomes Trump's lens. And his followers internalize these proclamations of Trump's and regurgitate them in different forms, over & over. It's quite amazing, really.

@JJ-fr2ki 8 ай бұрын

Sophomoric use of “narrative”. When critical theorists introduced the concept of multiple narratives, it referred to different stories that threaded through the same set of facts. (post-Quinean philosophers in America had a related concept of “under determination”). How we view the legacy of Columbus or Custer are nice examples. But, now “narrative” conscripted by the popular press refers to competing stories some of which weave through incompatible “alternative facts.” The false stories are lies and should be called so, and not elevated to the status of narrative. We are dealing with fascist fables.

@mycount64 7 ай бұрын

Democracy should have a test in order to vote? We equate capitalism with democracy.... Those dots are not connected.

@erickborling1302 7 ай бұрын

Who equates capitalism with democracy? It's not true, anyway. Capitalism without regulation degenerates into monopoly and feudalism.

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@fracta1organism 8 ай бұрын

the real culture war is between corporate oligarchy, aka "democracy", and state autocracy, aka "state socialism". that's also the difference between america and the west more generally, and china and russia on the other hand.

@catherinemacaskill1421 7 ай бұрын

It appears that fascism is on the rise in western democracies. When a sophisticated and educated people can be convinced to follow a narcissistic madman to destruction, it's very dangerous to ignore it. It happened in Germany and today's world is not immune. Isolationism is not a new concept in the U.S. It also existed in the 1930's and 1940's during the second world war.

@bcx1138 8 ай бұрын

i'm not optimistic that the arts can make the large difference we need - money and autocracy have too much power. thus, i call for revolution

@craven5328 7 ай бұрын

If you're calling for revolution - how are you going to motivate more people towards your cause? The French Revolution very much leveraged propaganda en masse to galvanize support. Hitler felt so threatened by certain forms of art he banned their production / imprisoned their creators, while simultaneously employing artists to create propaganda for the third Reich. As Orwell wrote: "All art is propaganda"

@erickborling1302 7 ай бұрын

American democracy is institutionalized revolution, so if you really want a good revolution get people to vote.

@thosethatcan 7 ай бұрын

10:07 *

@christinepopowski637 7 ай бұрын

Very poor audio

@thosethatcan 7 ай бұрын

How they're bankrupt? Relying on cryptocurrency, sucking energy ($????

@MichaeldeSousaCruz 8 ай бұрын

“Left leaning skew in Hollywood”??? What is this fascist concept, and why do they speak of it? 🥴🤷‍♂️

@wendywilson-fall3973 8 ай бұрын

Look at Senegal to see how culture supports and aids democracy

@michaeltrower741 8 ай бұрын

Terrible audio.

@barbarabonanno1879 7 ай бұрын

Changing the narrative about Joseph Stalin? Good luck with that!

@mycount64 7 ай бұрын

I know the Holocaust happened. So, Holocaust deniers and antisemitic authors right or white nationalist writers? Is she just picking those against democracy?