Pen is actually a Pencil? (Joke Theory)

[@Fourtle]

- this is just a theory, its not meant to be the best theory in history ever :). - Sorry for not using voice, I have some private reasons to not use it atm

[@뿑]

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[@narratornarrations]

Hello❤

[@PABFDIF2025]

It's Alright.

[@SolvedIdentitiesVA]

It's ok

[@Catdragon2010]

I forgive

[@6rgd782]

Maybe Pen is a pencil that doesn’t have an eraser because the BFDI official character guide says that Pen is jealous everytime he sees pencil erases something

[@DaSilverIngot]

Maybe it’s because pen cannot erase what he draws since it’s ink.

[@Minesonic2091]

Just use Eraser even tho he will go through some pain

[@Ribbital]

@@Minesonic2091 Pen can’t be erased- the ink would just smudge when you tried

[@ivywt]

@@Minesonic2091​​⁠that would only smudge the paper and make the mistake even more visible, it doesnt get rid of the ink

[@Minesonic2091]

But didn’t the theory said that pen is a pencil

[@Ribbital]

Pen’s tip has a shine to it like it’s metallic and I definitely have pens with mismatched caps. Maybe pen just likes blue or it’s a replacement. Pens writing of 4 has a style (because it’s a font of the letter 4) that you probably couldn’t get with a pencil. Also a recommended character is named broken pen and pen’s innards are shown to be blue ink.

[@FallenBeeXD]

Okay, but recommended characters are often fanmade, meaning they aren’t canon

[@melissahull2182]

​@@FallenBeeXDprofily was reccomended

[@FallenBeeXD]

@@melissahull2182 that’s one of few cases where recommended character is canon

[@varieTF2]

I think they mean more like the firey and leafy dating character where when it uses an existing character it usually isn't true as firey and leafy aren't dating.@@melissahull2182

[@windowswhistler2000]

Graphite is also metallic

[@NguyenZander]

"pens always have the same color for cap, tip, and ink" ive seen many pens with different colors for some of these

[@cryptorborgjulien902]

Here's another theory for you: Marker is actually a Pen. Definitionally speaking, Markers are considered to be "felt-tipped pens", so this theory would hold more water than you think.

[@CelestyXDD]

Everybody gangsta until fourtle creates a theory video about how Pencil is actually Pen

[@Ayoloty]

💀

[@w33shy26]

Another thing i also wanna add as this is a good theory in my opinion, is that when pen draws the 4, it makes the sound of a PENCIL on paper instead of a pen, further implying that he may actually be a pencil

[@froglord9062]

I think I found some answers. - “hows pen managing to have 3 different colors in all of these” Either the ink is darker than the light blue cap, which usually is the case, or his cap got switched up with a different pen’s cap. And for the ink being gray, that is probably because it was inside bottle and the glass may have warped how it looked a bit. - when you write with pencils, there’s always some tiny empty spaces because of the texture of the paper. However, writing with pens is much smoother and that could be why the thing pen drew is much smoother than it would be for a pencil - “how similar pen’s body is to pencil” I think this was just to show that they were similar- both thin, cylindrical writing tools. I think it’s a stylized choice to have him look like that, similar to how stylized Puffball is: in real life, there aren’t giant round clumps of fur but in bfdi, there are. That’s a design choice and I think it’s the same for Pen. - His name is PEN and they are named after the object that they are - the wrapping in a pencil also indicates what color it is (if it’s a colored pencil) and pen is wrapped (?) in white. He is not a white “pencil”

[@fwogboi]

His name is canonnically "Ben" not Pen

[@imfinethanks]

​@@fwogboiits a joke.

[@slimekingjuniyore]

i think puffball is supposed to be those little furball accessories you see on bags

[@Tepicneori]

if he was he would've gotten the boot even before TFI about the white pencil part.

[@Risuchan25]

@@fwogboiit’s actually pronounced _🅱️en_

[@Lightningsupporter]

Well people used ink back then which was purplish black and it turned into black writing just like pens tip, but for the woodish like part of pen, thats probably the second part of what youd see in a pen, they probably just made a mistake and coloured it brown, and blue is similar to pruple so i guess pen could still be a pen

[@Emeraldboy-707-ex4]

that’s exactly what I was thinking

[@xtremeyoylecake]

Actually pens can have more than one color at a time, I’ve seen a lot of pens with red caps that write blue, or completely black pens that write blue

[@Buffballer455]

Fun fact Pencil first design she had her tip up and not down

[@jctubezzz]

This would support my headcanon of Pen and Pencil being siblings

[@cheese_productions]

Shippers: oh shi-

[@kingcharlesishere]

​@@cheese_productionssweet home Alabama!!!

[@Cranberry38]

we know that Pens legal name is Ben, witch means Pen isn't his real name, and we know characters don't need to have their name be their creature, object, like David isn't called stickman and Liy isn't called Light Swictch, maybe Pen used to be a Pencil called Ben and then changed to a Pen

[@AGU_YT]

kinda like ONE

[@clairetheclamble]

It’s actually spelt 🅱️en

[@TheR1.0AUCCC]

@@AGU_YT *ONE theme plays*

[@ellayin0406]

And then pen sounded werid for a pencil so he decided to chnage himself into a pen

[@some_random_fish]

Isn't Ben just a joke

[@sciencebfdiamondproscpelog1]

It also ironic that both Pen snd Pencil have their sort of friend groups.

[@theythemdani]

congrats on the transition 🅱️en

[@imanoffice641]

Well, most pens with blue caps are usual black pens Still a great theory though

[@kajemorphic]

0:28 we actually saw it in that detailed GIF of how bfdi characters are made and stuff

[@theoncetopanimator]

I realized, wait in One of the bfdi comic's, pencil had a different design. And it's the perfect shape for a pen. My theory is the old pencil wasn't actually pencil but rather pen because he was 1/4 characters who were created for bfdi to get to 20 contestants.And at some point, pencil's design changed, and pen probably left to go find a cap and then returned in bfdi. (sorry if you get confused with something)

[@cheese_productions]

Wait how did pen get his arms tho

[@theoncetopanimator]

@@cheese_productions Good question, I have no idea, but i would guess some invention golf ball made.

[@GarbageManThe4th]

You do know if a pencil's point is painted, the writing's color changes as well, right?

[@algodooanimations]

Not for long

[@CactusBoi-ks1xq]

Pen has probably gotten his ink cartridge replaced but wanted to keep the blue cap because he thought a dark grey cap was boring

[@KeiyaanTheIdiot]

I actually noticed this during BFB 4 and I’m happy I’m not the only one who knows about this.

[@1v3r50n0fficial]

Pen is with the cap, Ben is without the cap.

[@SS_Pasteur]

Dont let the Pen x pencil shippers see this💀

[@julion5665]

Yeah never

[@LemonMeruingePi]

NEVER FOREVER

[@rottedtomato1947]

@___Well_hello_there.___yes

[@dominusempire291]

Pen x pencil is shipping fuel👁👄👁 and makes total sense

[@TheStupidStrawberry]

no? i don’t understand shippers… THEY HAVE ONLY INTERACTED LIKE 4 TIMES AND HAVEN’T EVEN INTERACTED IN THE LAST TEN YEARS- if anything this makes them kind of siblings? i’d be weird for someone to date someone of their own kind…

[@cheese_productions]

​@@TheStupidStrawberryhumans:

[@helloimakebadcontent]

You forgot to address, while this part of the theory may not be canon, Pencil turns into Pen when the cap gets put on her in Last BFDI.

[@cheese_productions]

What's last bfdi

[@thekellanator2642]

@@cheese_productions You may have seen it but it's that thing where the screen scrolls down and all the characters are there turning into each other as it loops.

[@nicolecyr1955]

Thanks!

[@swirlzeon]

congratulations on the transition pen!!

[@Jawzesty]

Objective: find the difference of these two characters Me:

[@rush6716]

bro is cooking myths

[@Bluecupcake_funko7]

Do you like ambush? Or are you jelly

[@Emeraldboy-707-ex4]

what could’ve happened is that the creators might’ve not known what the tip of pen actually looks like so they decided to make it look super similar to a pencil

[@eyweiuai]

why would the creators not know what the tip of a pen looks like? surely they would've used a pen at some point?

[@paytosave]

nah while still following the theory hes more likely to just be a purple coloured pencil with not a lot of pigment or, whats most likely the case, hes a pen with a blue cap, who writes witj black ink since black ink is just a really deep purple explaining why his tip is purple

[@thecontentyouwant4314]

I think the animators just didn't want to make a new asset

[@nojoke4182]

I actually questioned pen for this moment in BFB. Nice to know other people think this too!

[@rockymations28]

Also, his legal name is 🅱️en! He could’ve been a pencil called Ben, but changed his name to pen, to be a pen!!

[@IzzatRadz1f]

Good theory. Although you kinda have one thing incorrect. While most likely not canon, the first time we see Pen without his cap was in a BFDI YTPMV. More specifically the one that has a big ass animation that loops infinitely (i do not rember the name sadly). Quick update: The name of the YTPMV is Last BFDI. It was uploaded as a 20,000 subscriber special.

[@NotACopyAnimates]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3S5knqAlN93rpo link

[@keenico7730]

whats even better about this is that in that animation, we see that pencil transforms into pen after the cap is put on, which may prove the theory even more correct

[@Fourtle]

​@@keenico7730wait really?

[@Fourtle]

You're right thank you

[@thekellanator2642]

@@keenico7730 Yellow Face turns into Donut in that, so how is that any different?

[@Lxrs15]

Pens and pencils are two writing instruments that are commonly used in everyday life. They have been around for centuries and have undergone various changes in design and technology. However, the question remains, is a pen a pencil? To answer this question, it is important to understand the basic differences between the two writing instruments. A pen uses ink to write on paper, while a pencil uses graphite. The ink used in pens is usually permanent, while the graphite in pencils can be erased. Pens are also more durable than pencils and do not require sharpening. Therefore, a pen is not a pencil. Despite their similarities in function, they are two distinct writing instruments. Pens and pencils serve different purposes and are used in different situations. For example, pens are often used for formal writing, such as signing documents or writing letters, while pencils are more commonly used for sketching and drawing. It is important to choose the right writing instrument for the task at hand. While both pens and pencils are useful tools, they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Understanding the differences between them can help you choose the right one for your needs, whether you are writing a letter, drawing a picture, or taking notes in class. In conclusion, a pen is not a pencil. While they may share some similarities, they are two distinct writing instruments with their own unique characteristics. Choosing the right tool for the job is important, and understanding the differences between pens and pencils can help you make the right choice. Whether you prefer the permanence of a pen or the versatility of a pencil, both are essential tools for everyday life And go ahead and copy it💀 @Facemoji Also I just typed this for fun lol☾

[@thecursedlullafairy]

Pen is pencil’s lost brother 😭

[@angelobates601]

Theory: how did lightning get arms when in bfdia and idfb he had no arms

[@cheese_productions]

Puff ball gave it to him?

[@Brando_Cookiedough]

i think pen just lost his original cap and found a blue one, and or he got new link for him to use. (this is why the ink is black)

[@AlexWaterElement]

Pen is secretly upside down pencil

[@I-Read-Reddit]

This video popped up on my fyp after I saw a Rule 34 video of Pen and Pencil going crazy

[@robotdude4321]

Never let them know the next moves: cartoon logic

[@bayronperezperez1544]

Thats a good theory but i think jacknjellify just reused pencils asset and took the eraser and change to look like a pen

[@Fourtle]

One of you guys told me about something that kinda makes the theory even more possible lmao kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3S5knqAlN93rpo In this short, pencil turns into pen when she gets his cap which is 👀

[@user-AADZ]

No way, Iron Pencil (future paradox pencil)

[@TallLGaming-yx5vl]

Good theory but I don't think the animator 's intended for it to happen because if pencil stayed in it would be pencil that done it

[@TheStupidStrawberry]

no but the writers intended for pencil to be the first one out. that’s why they completely derailed her character.

[@RandomDude1487]

The cap is prob just a cool hat he likes to wear

[@uglyboio6578]

I almost thought the title said "Pen is actually Pencil." 💀

[@Catdragon2010]

Me too💀

[@Catdragon2010]

Would've ended well

[@DaACTUALLYREALReddie]

Same here

[@jamesthebluecat1263]

I misread it as that.😹😹😹

[@ivywt]

same 💀 lmao

[@Fanny_The_Spinosaurus_Fan]

Hello internet welcom to Battle for Theory

[@Youtubesaltnojoke]

Also, pencils eraser is currently in golf balls factory, why wouldn’t she have it? Why would golf ball? Pen is also currently on goofballs team so this could be true

[@Abloxfruitsyoutuber]

or maybe pen is a mechanical pencil

[@algodooanimations]

Respect him, he's trying to be what he feels he is.

[@pom10102]

Pencil and match watching this theory:👁👄👁

[@fs2t21linkaiwingp3]

Have you wondered who created the robot contestants?

[@cheese_productions]

Probably golf ball

[@ParadizeofChaoz]

I think he may be one of those little pencils that sometimes come with the circle-drawing compass tool, thats why he gas no eraser. that or he ripped his eraser off.

[@BorisSinSonido]

0:33 if you see closer to the tip of a blue pen you notice its like dark purple because of the ink

[@Whyiseveryhandletaken6942]

I feel like there are more plot holes in BFDI than there are in cars

[@AbdulMamun_Alt]

That's why he's called Ben

[@Adabro27]

What about when pencil got dulled?

[@RandomAllosaurus]

Nice theory, but pencil has her tip of the pencil on the bottom and the eraser on the top. If pen was a pencil how is the tip on the pencil now on his head and the eraser gone? If he was a pencil his body must of been flipped upside down and his face put on the top.

[@theflutterwarofnature]

shippers are actually gonna go crazy on this one when the comments come in and say "so pen is kindof like pencils long lost sibling?!?!??!?!?!"

[@slushy8141]

Then why the fuck would they date if they are fucking siblings,

[@Fourtle]

😭

[@skullpfpman67]

OHHH NAWWW LILAC

[@Asciscoolwithmarker123]

AW HELL NAH

[@theflutterwarofnature]

what

[@Juanluisito_Supremo_Craft_BP]

actually it is not if you look closely the tip of a pencil is black while that of a pen is dark blue. did anyone see it?

[@Juanluisito_Supremo_Craft_BP]

Well probably this theory is correcto but... Where did the eraser go? The eraser of pen is eraser?

[@dusty14omg]

1:46 what about the metal part/eraser?

[@baolongmapping]

well heres a note note:pen is the same as pencil but with a cap pen is pencil but flipped well pen doesnt have eraser so it does not count as the same as pencil

[@CandyIsADreamOfFun]

it would make more sense if pen and pencil were related

[@AnimateCocoa]

Also a recommended character is named broken pen and pen’s innards are shown to be blue ink.

[@eleanorchou2637]

If you know total firey island, pencil won. But for bob, she was first eliminated, shocking!

[@CarsonsPlushiePalooza]

I think maybe pencil is a gray colored Pencil. It would explain why he stand the opposite way Pencil does, Why He Is Painted White (Even Though It Doesn’t Correspond To His Color, Some Companies Do Make All The Colored Pencil With White Paint), & His Purple-ish Tip (Some Companies Don’t Use Gray, But Instead A Very Dark Shade Of Purple)

[@LennoxDoesStuff]

NOWAY also dude why did you delete all ur old threoys?

[@Fourtle]

KZbin reasons

[@LennoxDoesStuff]

Ohhh I see

[@thekashmirisultana]

this changes everything.

[@D4EMONSH4NK]

so happy for his transition

[@RealFAFairman_Official]

It That Mean BFDI Pen Is BFDI Pencil's Brother?

[@Conflictal]

The Shipers are gonna be pissed

[@hansdablob4741]

Fourtle is like my dad he makes me entertained for 5 minutes and then he leaves for two weeks

[@Crocodile_D_Goat]

my theory is that pen was was a pencil and pen is short for pencil so I think that he was ashamed for being a pencil and his name isn’t even pen his “legal” name is Ben so I think he uses his cap to hide the identity that he was a pencil before he used the cap😅

[@Файсер]

Ok.But I got few question. Why is pen without rubber?Why is pen white?Why pencil's lead down and pen's up?Why pen is a male?Why he don't try to make friendship with Pencil?

[@Just_abfdi_fan]

That’s why they ship pen and pencil

[@alexistramirez]

Pen is BatMan and Pencil is CatWoman?! so that Mean Pencil is Pen's Girlfriend

[@itsmezt]

dont some pens look like is purple ink on the tip but its actually black ink? and the cap dosent even have to relate to the color of the ink at all... and the sharp tip is just a mistake.

[@awoken_444]

thats because its logic

[@Lohantio8036]

Maybe Pencil and Pen are secretly twins / best friends

[@Cam_boom]

Oh no here comes the shippers.

[@theflutterwarofnature]

thats what im saying!

[@jellixy7961]

the purple is probably black but they made it purple for aesthetic

[@okmen9703]

I kinda have i diffren theory from this and that's pen is just a pencil but not the one we know he is just other pencil acting like pen because if the pencil we know would be pen then she would be litery walking on hands secound is pencil can look diffren then others like being kinda like pen

[@BinaryOSC]

i think its just an oversight.

[@schoolekamthealphabetloree5525]

I thought this was a meme but it was a theory

[@Firework73]

IM NOT A PENCIL made you look

[@AGU_YT]

I always thought they were brother and sister...

[@bluedoom4584]

And what's the coincidence that Pen's closest friend is Eraser

[@DaSilverIngot]

Well I don’t think it so. Maybe it’s only design mistakes, and remember nothing makes sense in the BFDI world. Also if I where them I would draw a pen cap like that too, and the concentred blue ink normally looks purple. About the gray/black writing it’s only because of the style or just an error on the design.

[@kirbyfan2088]

Kinda have a strong feeling that this was just a design oversight as it would kinda not make much sense for this to be true but decent theory

[@adamkos-6]

I still love pen

[@Hmmm8327]

He is an generic ballpoint Pen, the Point when he lifts his cap off is just drawn like a pencil it's actually an metal kind of thing covered by the Cap instead of a wooden one

[@miguelabro]

Idea:pen is a black pen wearing the blue cap because...idk maybe to remember someone...this would explain a few things (plus only pens have that white *skin* )

[@brunolike8631]

What if Pencil is an eraser? Did we ever saw Pencil writing something? No! So she must be an eraser disguised as a pencil.

[@Byfvdude]

Problably the 2nd character that changee themselves, because of the Golf Ball/Bozo theory, that Golf Ball changed herself because or the people that were attacking her, idk if im wrong

[@cheese_productions]

It's because of the club thingy

[@IM_Botic]

My idea: eraser is like "cil" with pen. Making "pencil". But since pen dont have eraser, it is called "pen".

[@SlimeSquadz]

*c i l*

[@YoshiForevz]

Theory: What if BFDI Leafy manipulated you?

[@l3g1t332]

B E N C I L

[@germancat429]

This gave me another theory idea, what if sans from undertale is ness