Penal Substitution vs. Christus Victor - Ric Machuga

[@bizungo2929]

The real gospel is so simple that is a shame that most people do not understand it, great video.

[@Ben-Jembai]

Agree

[@williamoarlock8634]

Most people don't believe in fairy tales.

[@jasonegeland1446]

@@williamoarlock8634 Not true.

[@williamoarlock8634]

@@jasonegeland1446 Indeed, your 'gospel' isn't true.

[@jasonegeland1446]

@@williamoarlock8634 It's not my gospel, Dr. Cynical. But yes, it's true for me.You're an elite buzzkiller.

[@claymarshall6334]

Amen Brothers, the simplicity of the Gospel. “I wandered so aimless, life filled with sin I wouldn't let my dear Savior in Then Jesus came like a stranger in the night Praise the Lord, I saw the light.” St. Hank Williams Sr.

[@eekay5710]

'The great exchange' as someone once said 👌

[@Ben-Jembai]

The truth is so simple and yet humanity insists on complicating it. We never have been and never will be separated from God. We only believe ourselves to be separated from God. We dream up all kinds of reasons for this separation........sin, the fall, a debt, devil, we are evil, god is just, etc, etc. Jesus gave his life to do away with all these things. Basically any reason we can dream up to separate ourselves from God Jesus died to prove them unreal, phantoms, figments of our imagination. Jesus gave his life to show us that we are not separated from God at all. Jesus died to reveal the truth to us, the truth that has never changed and never will. Jesus died to show us that God is willing to pay the price, the price that we demand, for us to be reconciled to God. Blessings to all.

[@glendadunn8986]

I love how you worded this

[@vince.sarigumba]

brother i have some question because the majority of christian theologians and also calvinism and arminianism christians they believe in eternal hell fire because they believe that hell is for purpose of wicked to burn eternaly and eternity hell torture is that logic or In God's Character Of Love and justice? Is that what end of sin and wicked ness to be torture in eternal hell fire in eternity?

[@ThomasLimon-nv3dl]

Thank you for the clarity in which you put this. I’ve struggled for the words to best explain this concept for years. Beautifully worded. Thank you again.

[@jasonb4321]

Not exactly the in-depth explanation of the differences between the two theories that I thought I’d get from the title, but still a good video.

[@glendadunn8986]

One thing I have been pondering is that first attempt at covering after the fall was not God, but Adam. Even with Adam attempt at covering it was insufficient by Adams standard, hence it hid after he made his covering with fig leaves. At this point, God is in the garden speaking with adam and seeing how death has taken its toll on man. God then provided Adam and Eve a better covering not so much for God but for man to be okay enough to be in His presence without being totally consumed by guilt and shame.

[@Flame1500]

This sounds really similar to actual Eastern Orthodox theology. Surprised to hear you’re a Calvinist given your affinity to Christus Victor, since Calvinists often emphasise “total depravity”?

[@jamesers99]

He's no Calvinist.

[@Flame1500]

@@jamesers99 pcusa is calvinist